Hello,

I am looking for something but do not know what it is called. It is a
clip that you attach to one sheet of metal and then screw into a hole
in that clip, through another sheet of metal, holding the two pieces
of metal together.

Googling has found me some of what I am looking for:

Looking on the internet, Halfords call them u-clips:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-too...u-clips-screws

ebay calls them spire clips:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speed-Fast...-/261983357122

What is the proper or most common name for these, as I am hoping that
knowing that will help me find more sellers, so that I can track down
a good quality item at a good price from somewhere near me or
somewhere with cheap delivery.

Thanks,
Stephen

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:07:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:

I am looking for something but do not know what it is called. It is a
clip that you attach to one sheet of metal and then screw into a hole in
that clip, through another sheet of metal, holding the two pieces of
metal together.

Googling has found me some of what I am looking for:

Looking on the internet, Halfords call them u-clips:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-too...uipment/fuses-
electricals-fixings/halfords-assorted-u-clips-screws

ebay calls them spire clips:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speed-Fast...-Auto-Captive-
Screw-Size-6-8-10-12-14-Nut-Clip-/261983357122

What is the proper or most common name for these, as I am hoping that
knowing that will help me find more sellers, so that I can track down a
good quality item at a good price from somewhere near me or somewhere
with cheap delivery.

I've just ordered some from a random 'bay seller - they use the terms "u-
clip, speed clip, chimney nut, motorcycle fairing clip" in their
description alone.

Any of those should find a source - I'll let you know what the quality of
these is like when they get here. 25 x M8 for £9 delivered.

On 20/01/16 11:11, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:07:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:

I am looking for something but do not know what it is called. It is a
clip that you attach to one sheet of metal and then screw into a hole in
that clip, through another sheet of metal, holding the two pieces of
metal together.

Googling has found me some of what I am looking for:

Looking on the internet, Halfords call them u-clips:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-too...uipment/fuses-
electricals-fixings/halfords-assorted-u-clips-screws

ebay calls them spire clips:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speed-Fast...-Auto-Captive-
Screw-Size-6-8-10-12-14-Nut-Clip-/261983357122

What is the proper or most common name for these, as I am hoping that
knowing that will help me find more sellers, so that I can track down a
good quality item at a good price from somewhere near me or somewhere
with cheap delivery.

I've just ordered some from a random 'bay seller - they use the terms "u-
clip, speed clip, chimney nut, motorcycle fairing clip" in their
description alone.


But not 'spire clip', which is what they are generally called in the
engineering trade

Any of those should find a source - I'll let you know what the quality of
these is like when they get here. 25 x M8 for £9 delivered.



--
New Socialism consists essentially in being seen to have your heart in
the right place whilst your head is in the clouds and your hand is in
someone else's pocket.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:15:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

'spire clip', which is what they are generally called in the
engineering trade

Thank you for the replies. Does anyone know why they are called Spire
clips? Were they invented by a man or company called Spire?

Probably a daft question but is one finish better than another? Ebay
sellers seem to have black ones or zinc plated yellow ones. Is one
finish more durable, less likely to rust than the other?

Thanks,
Stephen.

On 20/01/2016 11:47, Stephen wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:15:16 +0000, The Natural Philosopher
wrote:

'spire clip', which is what they are generally called in the
engineering trade

Thank you for the replies. Does anyone know why they are called Spire
clips? Were they invented by a man or company called Spire?

Probably a daft question but is one finish better than another? Ebay
sellers seem to have black ones or zinc plated yellow ones. Is one
finish more durable, less likely to rust than the other?

Thanks,
Stephen.


Black are most common in things that I have dismantled. You sometimes
see traces of rust at the piercing, the black finish seems reasonably
corrosion resistant. I wouldn't use them in the bilges of a boat, but
they seem to be OK in stuff that lives outdoors.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:32:02 +0000, newshound wrote:

Probably a daft question but is one finish better than another? Ebay
sellers seem to have black ones or zinc plated yellow ones. Is one
finish more durable, less likely to rust than the other?

Black are most common in things that I have dismantled. You sometimes
see traces of rust at the piercing, the black finish seems reasonably
corrosion resistant. I wouldn't use them in the bilges of a boat, but
they seem to be OK in stuff that lives outdoors.

They're used on 2cvs for the body-chassis bolts - black finish, usually.
As such, the threaded portion is exposed on the underside of the car, and
they can be really quite horrific looking. It's usually about 50% that
have to be cut off, if the car's never been apart - but that's after
decades of use.

On 20/01/2016 15:36, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 13:32:02 +0000, newshound wrote:

Probably a daft question but is one finish better than another? Ebay
sellers seem to have black ones or zinc plated yellow ones. Is one
finish more durable, less likely to rust than the other?

Black are most common in things that I have dismantled. You sometimes
see traces of rust at the piercing, the black finish seems reasonably
corrosion resistant. I wouldn't use them in the bilges of a boat, but
they seem to be OK in stuff that lives outdoors.

They're used on 2cvs for the body-chassis bolts - black finish, usually.
As such, the threaded portion is exposed on the underside of the car, and
they can be really quite horrific looking. It's usually about 50% that
have to be cut off, if the car's never been apart - but that's after
decades of use.

I guess they rely on mud and corrosion to glue the body to the chassis,
preventing the vibration which would otherwise shake them loose! Or the
corrosion on the protruding bolt, I suppose.

:-)

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 15:49:48 +0000, newshound wrote:

Probably a daft question but is one finish better than another? Ebay
sellers seem to have black ones or zinc plated yellow ones. Is one
finish more durable, less likely to rust than the other?

Black are most common in things that I have dismantled. You sometimes
see traces of rust at the piercing, the black finish seems reasonably
corrosion resistant. I wouldn't use them in the bilges of a boat, but
they seem to be OK in stuff that lives outdoors.

They're used on 2cvs for the body-chassis bolts - black finish,
usually. As such, the threaded portion is exposed on the underside of
the car, and they can be really quite horrific looking. It's usually
about 50% that have to be cut off, if the car's never been apart - but
that's after decades of use.

I guess they rely on mud and corrosion to glue the body to the chassis,
preventing the vibration which would otherwise shake them loose! Or the
corrosion on the protruding bolt, I suppose.

:-)

g Something along those lines.

http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/clip-t...ece-p-406.html

Yes, M7. God bless Citroen.

On 20/01/2016 11:07, Stephen wrote:
Hello,

I am looking for something but do not know what it is called. It is a
clip that you attach to one sheet of metal and then screw into a hole
in that clip, through another sheet of metal, holding the two pieces
of metal together.

Googling has found me some of what I am looking for:

Looking on the internet, Halfords call them u-clips:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-too...u-clips-screws

ebay calls them spire clips:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Speed-Fast...-/261983357122

What is the proper or most common name for these, as I am hoping that
knowing that will help me find more sellers, so that I can track down
a good quality item at a good price from somewhere near me or
somewhere with cheap delivery.

Thanks,
Stephen



Make sure you order the correct type..
some are made for self tapper type screws and some are captive nuts to
take bolts/machine screws.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 16:00:33 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
wrote:

http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/clip-t...ece-p-406.html

Yes, M7. God bless Citroen.

I've often wondered about owning a 2cv but friends tell me they are
not safe in an accident because they are thin metal from the days
before crumple zones etc. I suppose that's true of all cars from that
era though.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 20:19:12 +0000, dennis@home
wrote:

Make sure you order the correct type..
some are made for self tapper type screws and some are captive nuts to
take bolts/machine screws.

Thanks, I shall watch out for that.

On Fri, 22 Jan 2016 19:36:34 +0000, Stephen wrote:

http://www.ecas2cvparts.co.uk/clip-t...ece-p-406.html

Yes, M7. God bless Citroen.

I've often wondered about owning a 2cv but friends tell me they are not
safe in an accident because they are thin metal from the days before
crumple zones etc. I suppose that's true of all cars from that era
though.

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:11:13 +0000, Adrian wrote:

I've just ordered some from a random 'bay seller - they use the terms
"u-clip, speed clip, chimney nut, motorcycle fairing clip" in their
description alone.

Any of those should find a source - I'll let you know what the quality
of these is like when they get here. 25 x M8 for £9 delivered.

Well, they've arrived, and they look just fine. Semi-bright finish as
shown, not yellow passivated or black.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321969313302

On 23/01/2016 09:16, Adrian wrote:
shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Andy

On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least seventy-three
times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs, across the US
and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern Scandinavia...

In message , Adrian
writes
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least seventy-three
times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs, across the US
and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern Scandinavia...

Diversion alert.. You don't by any chance name your 2CVs Hubert? Long
story, anecdotes from another group:-)

--
Tim Lamb

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 09:18:41 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
wrote:


Well, they've arrived, and they look just fine. Semi-bright finish as
shown, not yellow passivated or black.

http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/321969313302

Thanks.

On Sat, 23 Jan 2016 09:16:46 +0000 (UTC), Adrian
wrote:

I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".

It's not so much the worry of you crashing, it's more the worry of
someone less careful crashing into you!

Are they fun to drive?

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:35:08 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diversion alert.. You don't by any chance name your 2CVs Hubert? Long
story, anecdotes from another group:-)

No... The only one that's named is SWMBO's "Sparky", following an
ignition-switch related drama many years ago.

But do go on...?

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:40:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:

I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".

It's not so much the worry of you crashing, it's more the worry of
someone less careful crashing into you!

I've also been known to walk and ride bicycles.

Are they fun to drive?

Immensely.

In message , Adrian
writes
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:35:08 +0000, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diversion alert.. You don't by any chance name your 2CVs Hubert? Long
story, anecdotes from another group:-)

No... The only one that's named is SWMBO's "Sparky", following an
ignition-switch related drama many years ago.

But do go on...?

Very OT and only AJH and Mary might remember. A gentleman from Scotland
with an amusing set of life experiences including adventures with a 2CV
called Hubert in the Iberian peninsular:-)

--
Tim Lamb

On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least seventy-three
times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs, across the US
and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

Andy

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:19:21 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs,
across the US and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern
Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

A few years back, I lost two friends in separate car accidents within a
month or two of each other.

One is thought to have passed out, and swerved into a laden HGV, head-on,
at a closing speed of about 100mph. The truck rolled, and the driver of
the truck was also badly injured.

The other was a ridiculously minor low-speed traffic collision, but an
insecure box of books flew forward and took the back of his head out.

One was in a 2cv. The other was in a brand new EuroNCAP 5* rental.

I'll let you guess which was which.

When your number's up, your number's up. And I don't particularly want to
spend a decade drooling and having my arse wiped in a care home anyway.

On 26/01/2016 21:19, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least seventy-three
times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs, across the US
and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

Are you using the word "tailgated" differently to the way I normally
understand it? Normally "tailgating" is driving close, not sure what I'd
use for actually being hit.

In article , Clive
George wrote:
On 26/01/2016 21:19, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't
crash". Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three times over the third of a century I've been driving
2cvs, across the US and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern
Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

Are you using the word "tailgated" differently to the way I normally
understand it? Normally "tailgating" is driving close, not sure what I'd
use for actually being hit.

tailended?

--
from KT24 in Surrey, England

On 26/01/16 21:23, Adrian wrote:
The other was a ridiculously minor low-speed traffic collision, but an
insecure box of books flew forward and took the back of his head out.

anything loose in the rear seating area is a potentially lethal hazard.


--
The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all
private property.

Karl Marx

On 26/01/16 21:54, Clive George wrote:
On 26/01/2016 21:19, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three
times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs, across the US
and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

Are you using the word "tailgated" differently to the way I normally
understand it? Normally "tailgating" is driving close, not sure what I'd
use for actually being hit.

Rear ended.


--
The theory of Communism may be summed up in one sentence: Abolish all
private property.

Karl Marx

On 26/01/2016 21:58, charles wrote:
In article , Clive
George wrote:
On 26/01/2016 21:19, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't
crash". Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three times over the third of a century I've been driving
2cvs, across the US and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern
Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

Are you using the word "tailgated" differently to the way I normally
understand it? Normally "tailgating" is driving close, not sure what I'd
use for actually being hit.

tailended?

Ah yes - rear ended would be what I would say. Thanks for the reminder.

On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:19:21 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs,
across the US and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern
Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

It's only happened to me once in 47 years of driving. It was slightly
unusual. A line of cars was cruising along a straight road (one lane
either way). A boy racer came up behind and overtook the entire line. He
then either (a) noticed a sharp blind bend ahead or (b) saw a vehicle
approaching from the other direction.

In any event, his solution was to swerve into a small gap in the line
(behind me). He was going far too fast and rear ended me.

On 27/01/16 01:15, Bob Eager wrote:
On Tue, 26 Jan 2016 21:19:21 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug
I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".
Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three times over the third of a century I've been driving 2cvs,
across the US and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern
Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

It's only happened to me once in 47 years of driving. It was slightly
unusual. A line of cars was cruising along a straight road (one lane
either way). A boy racer came up behind and overtook the entire line. He
then either (a) noticed a sharp blind bend ahead or (b) saw a vehicle
approaching from the other direction.

In any event, his solution was to swerve into a small gap in the line
(behind me). He was going far too fast and rear ended me.


I've been rear ended once by a car that simply failed to watch when I
slowed for a roundabout. In it were two Irish lads. I didn't even bother
to take the car number or their insurance, I assumed they had nicked it
for a joyride, and had none.



--
Bureaucracy defends the status quo long past the time the quo has lost
its status.

Laurence Peter

"charles" wrote in message
...
In article , Clive
George wrote:
On 26/01/2016 21:19, Vir Campestris wrote:
On 25/01/2016 08:35, Adrian wrote:
On Sun, 24 Jan 2016 21:32:50 +0000, Vir Campestris wrote:

shrug I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't
crash". Simple.

The other day I saw a stopped truck on the other side of the road.
Behind the truck was a car with a slightly damaged bonnet.

And a slightly more damaged boot.

Half a dozen cars behind was a mangled mess of metal that might once
have been a car or a van, with another truck pressed firmly into the
remains.

With a 2CV you would of course be more likely to be in the truck lane
than the other one on that dual carriageway...

Migod. This explains why I've been killed to death at least
seventy-three times over the third of a century I've been driving
2cvs, across the US and from the southern tip of Greece to Northern
Scandinavia...

You've been lucky - and probably good as well. The guy in the
van/car/whatever wasn't.

I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

Are you using the word "tailgated" differently to the way I normally
understand it? Normally "tailgating" is driving close, not sure what I'd
use for actually being hit.

tailended?

I hope they used lube:-)



--
Adam

"ARW" wrote in message
...
I've only been tailgated once in ... lets think... half a million
miles
or so. That doesn't mean it won't happen tomorrow. A colleague of mine
was braking for some roadworks, and looked in his mirror. Swerved into
the cones, and watched the car he'd been following get tailgated.

I was driving along a residential road, at about 20 because there were lots
of driveways with kids playing in them, and I didn't trust any of the kids
not to do something stupid. Suddenly from a driveway that had no children
near it I saw a football roll lazily into the road. I braked to avoid it and
in case a child appeared - and sure enough a toddler toddled out from behind
a gatepost, straight into the road to pick up the ball.

Luckily I was going slow enough that my emergency stop stopped me well
before the child. The car behind me stopped fast as well - and the three
cars behind him hit each other and then him - luckily without catapulting
him into me.

There was a lot of arguing and I got most of the blame for braking without a
good reason - until the child's mother rushed out to check that her son was
OK and to thank me for stopping in time. Even then one of the guys thought I
had "caused" him to crash into the car in front.

Surprisingly, although I gave my name to all the drivers as a witness, none
of their insurance companies contacted me for a statement.

In article ,
Tim Streater wrote:
Something not dissimilar happened to me on the Fulham Palace Rd in
1968. I was in the middle of the Q of cars which all had to break
sharply. Since I always leave a decent space in front mine was the only
undamaged car.

But how do you arrange for a decent space behind you? ;-)

--
*I don't suffer from insanity -- I'm a carrier

Dave Plowman London SW
To e-mail, change noise into sound.

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:22:06 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

Very OT and only AJH and Mary might remember. A gentleman from Scotland
with an amusing set of life experiences including adventures with a 2CV
called Hubert in the Iberian peninsular:-)

Stubsy's wife must have buried him by now.

AJH

In message ,
writes
On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 12:22:06 +0000, Tim Lamb
wrote:

Very OT and only AJH and Mary might remember. A gentleman from Scotland
with an amusing set of life experiences including adventures with a 2CV
called Hubert in the Iberian peninsular:-)

Stubsy's wife must have buried him by now.

Along with the Ardbeg whisky?

--
Tim Lamb

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 11:08:00 +0000, Adrian wrote:

On Mon, 25 Jan 2016 09:40:00 +0000, Stephen wrote:

I've always found the best solution to such fears is "Don't crash".

It's not so much the worry of you crashing, it's more the worry of
someone less careful crashing into you!

I've also been known to walk and ride bicycles.

Are they fun to drive?

Immensely.

So it would seem if the cover artwork of the double album, "666" by
Aphrodite's Child, is any indication (ICBW but it *does* look rather like
a "2CV" in the artwork that's revealed when the cover is opened out). :-)

http://www.vangelismovements.com/666InsideB.jpg

--
Johnny B Good

[quote='The Natural Philosopher[_2_];3500576']On 20/01/16 11:11, Adrian wrote:
On Wed, 20 Jan 2016 11:07:11 +0000, Stephen wrote:

I am looking for something but do not know what it is called. It is a
clip that you attach to one sheet of metal and then screw into a hole in
that clip, through another sheet of metal, holding the two pieces of
metal together.

Googling has found me some of what I am looking for:

Looking on the internet, Halfords call them u-clips:
http://www.halfords.com/workshop-too...uipment/fuses-
electricals-fixings/halfords-assorted-u-clips-screws

ebay calls them spire clips:
Speed Fasteners U Clips Spire Auto Captive | eBay
Screw-Size-6-8-10-12-14-Nut-Clip-/261983357122

What is the proper or most common name for these, as I am hoping that
knowing that will help me find more sellers, so that I can track down a
good quality item at a good price from somewhere near me or somewhere
with cheap delivery.

I've just ordered some from a random 'bay seller - they use the terms "u-
clip, speed clip, chimney nut, motorcycle fairing clip" in their
description alone.


But not 'spire clip', which is what they are generally called in the
engineering trade

Any of those should find a source - I'll let you know what the quality of
these is like when they get here. 25 x M8 for £9 delivered.



--Dear Friend
Good time
I am ALi from Iran
I have manufacture producing Chimney nut M5 and M6 and washer for Peugeot in Iran (Iran khodro)
We will glad to inform if you need .
wait for your kind reply
regards
Ali