Anyone know how to get at the paper feed on a photo RX 420?

Before anyone says.... I do have a replacement on order!

My problem is the 2+ sets of now unusable ink cartridges:-(

The early symptoms were a *squark* noise prior to the paper feeding to
the start position. This morning I had a paper jam followed by
repetitive fault signals. Diagnostics were unhelpful so I unscrewed all
the visible screws but failed to get access!

Is there a *Dyson plastic barb* tucked away and only known to service
engineers?
--
Tim Lamb

On Tue, 20 May 2014 18:47:13 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diagnostics were unhelpful so I unscrewed all the visible screws but
failed to get access!

Presumablly you tried the gentle waggling/twisting/prising of now
loose parts to work out were any common pivot points are and thus
where there is still a fixing of some sort.

Personally I'd dump the inkjet and get a colour laser, capital is
higher and a set of toner cartridges is eye watering(*) but they
"just work". You don't have to spend half an hour pumping expensive
ink into the collection sponge in "cleaning cycles" when you want to
print something in colour and the printer hasn't done any colour for
a few days.

(*) But with Epson cartridge prices as they are probably only about
four or five and toner lasts for far more pages...

--
Cheers
Dave.

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ll.co.uk...
On Tue, 20 May 2014 18:47:13 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diagnostics were unhelpful so I unscrewed all the visible screws but
failed to get access!

Presumablly you tried the gentle waggling/twisting/prising of now
loose parts to work out were any common pivot points are and thus
where there is still a fixing of some sort.

Personally I'd dump the inkjet and get a colour laser, capital is
higher and a set of toner cartridges is eye watering(*) but they
"just work". You don't have to spend half an hour pumping expensive
ink into the collection sponge in "cleaning cycles" when you want to
print something in colour and the printer hasn't done any colour for
a few days.

I've read that folks have this problem. Mine might not print for a month or
more but prints perfectly when asked. That's a SX600FW using non genuine ink
(50p per cart) but you must change carts well before they dry up else you're
in all sorts of trouble.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Tue, 20 May 2014 18:47:13 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diagnostics were unhelpful so I unscrewed all the visible screws but
failed to get access!

Presumablly you tried the gentle waggling/twisting/prising of now
loose parts to work out were any common pivot points are and thus
where there is still a fixing of some sort.

Personally I'd dump the inkjet and get a colour laser, capital is
higher and a set of toner cartridges is eye watering(*) but they
"just work". You don't have to spend half an hour pumping expensive
ink into the collection sponge in "cleaning cycles" when you want to
print something in colour and the printer hasn't done any colour for
a few days.

(*) But with Epson cartridge prices as they are probably only about
four or five and toner lasts for far more pages...

I agree, I'm just dumping the HP photosmart for a Brother 9020 colour
laser. Just over £200 from Amazon. The HP cartridge costs are excessive
and they dry out with our infrequent usage. The Brother lasers have a
good reputation and the other family one has needed only a new black
toner cartridge in 4 years of operation.

In message om, bm
writes

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
ill.co.uk...
On Tue, 20 May 2014 18:47:13 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diagnostics were unhelpful so I unscrewed all the visible screws but
failed to get access!

Presumablly you tried the gentle waggling/twisting/prising of now
loose parts to work out were any common pivot points are and thus
where there is still a fixing of some sort.

Yes. The solution was courage driven by nothing to lose:-)

A prize off access plate gives access to the ribbon connector for the
scan assembly. The ribbon is carefully glued down over a screw which
releases the pivot for the scan. Once the various connectors have been
released, the deck lifts off. With the deck off the 4th. holding screw
for the top housing can be reached. Still not there as there are a
further 3 screws hidden below the stick on legend plate for the control
buttons!!

Now inside but not much wiser. Fair bit of paper shavings/dirt but
nothing obviously broken or jammed. I was hoping to find something
simple like a dirty photocell etc. I'll waft a vacuum cleaner around it
before a blast of compressed air and then attempt re-assembly.

The printer is well beyond the expected life as I had the ink counter
reset 2 years back.

I don't do enough printing to justify a colour laser: mostly b/w copying
plus photos for which it has been excellent.

Personally I'd dump the inkjet and get a colour laser, capital is
higher and a set of toner cartridges is eye watering(*) but they
"just work". You don't have to spend half an hour pumping expensive
ink into the collection sponge in "cleaning cycles" when you want to
print something in colour and the printer hasn't done any colour for
a few days.

I've read that folks have this problem. Mine might not print for a month or
more but prints perfectly when asked. That's a SX600FW using non genuine ink
(50p per cart) but you must change carts well before they dry up else you're
in all sorts of trouble.



--
Tim Lamb

On 21/05/2014 08:52, Dave Liquorice wrote:

Personally I'd dump the inkjet and get a colour laser, capital is
higher and a set of toner cartridges is eye watering(*) but they
"just work". You don't have to spend half an hour pumping expensive
ink into the collection sponge in "cleaning cycles" when you want to
print something in colour and the printer hasn't done any colour for
a few days.

The wiper seals in all four of the original toner cartridges in my HP
laser failed at more or less the same time, not bad at ten years old I
guess.
Shame they were all still at least half full at the time though...

On Wed, 21 May 2014 10:20:54 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

A prize off access plate gives access to the ribbon connector for the
scan assembly. The ribbon is carefully glued down over a screw which
releases the pivot for the scan. Once the various connectors have been
released, the deck lifts off. With the deck off the 4th. holding screw
for the top housing can be reached. Still not there as there are a
further 3 screws hidden below the stick on legend plate for the control
buttons!!

One of the first things I try when there are any obvious screws is a
firm finger pressure over any labels. You can detect the hollow
through quite thick foil labels, POP to take a sharp pointed knife
and cut a little circle out of the label to gain access (making note
of any serial/model numbers that may get "edited" in the process.

I don't do enough printing to justify a colour laser: mostly b/w copying
plus photos for which it has been excellent.

Is that Espon an "all in one"? We don't do much color, our HP CP1515n
is fine for the vast majority of printing. Serious photos I'd upload
to Photobox and get a proper prints. Most of our printing is
monochrome and I've set up all the window boxes default printers to
use black only, you chose another "printer" if you want colour.

--
Cheers
Dave.

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...
In message om, bm
writes

"Dave Liquorice" wrote in message
hill.co.uk...
On Tue, 20 May 2014 18:47:13 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

Diagnostics were unhelpful so I unscrewed all the visible screws but
failed to get access!

Presumablly you tried the gentle waggling/twisting/prising of now
loose parts to work out were any common pivot points are and thus
where there is still a fixing of some sort.

Yes. The solution was courage driven by nothing to lose:-)

A prize off access plate gives access to the ribbon connector for the scan
assembly. The ribbon is carefully glued down over a screw which releases
the pivot for the scan. Once the various connectors have been released,
the deck lifts off. With the deck off the 4th. holding screw for the top
housing can be reached. Still not there as there are a further 3 screws
hidden below the stick on legend plate for the control buttons!!

Youtube often has all the gory detail spelt out with devices like that.

The Canon ip3000 has not screws at all, everything comes part very
easily when you know where the internal latches are from youtube.

Interesting design quirk with that printer. It intelligently moves the
print head into the center to make it easy to change the cartridges
and head, its normally parked under the right cover. But if the
electronics dies and you want to get the head and cartridges out
to put them into the spare that you got for peanuts from a garage/yard
sale, there is no way to get them out without pulling it to bits.
Fortunately its very easy to do when you know how.

Now inside but not much wiser. Fair bit of paper shavings/dirt but nothing
obviously broken or jammed. I was hoping to find something simple like a
dirty photocell etc. I'll waft a vacuum cleaner around it before a blast
of compressed air and then attempt re-assembly.

The printer is well beyond the expected life as I had the ink counter
reset 2 years back.

I don't do enough printing to justify a colour laser: mostly b/w copying
plus photos for which it has been excellent.

Personally I'd dump the inkjet and get a colour laser, capital is
higher and a set of toner cartridges is eye watering(*) but they
"just work". You don't have to spend half an hour pumping expensive
ink into the collection sponge in "cleaning cycles" when you want to
print something in colour and the printer hasn't done any colour for
a few days.

I've read that folks have this problem. Mine might not print for a month
or
more but prints perfectly when asked. That's a SX600FW using non genuine
ink
(50p per cart) but you must change carts well before they dry up else
you're
in all sorts of trouble.

On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

On 22/05/2014 02:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic.../english/prize

suggests it can be either.

On Thu, 22 May 2014 02:23:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

'twas actually Mr Lamb not I. B-)

--
Cheers
Dave.

In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Wed, 21 May 2014 10:20:54 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

A prize off access plate gives access to the ribbon connector for the
scan assembly. The ribbon is carefully glued down over a screw which
releases the pivot for the scan. Once the various connectors have been
released, the deck lifts off. With the deck off the 4th. holding screw
for the top housing can be reached. Still not there as there are a
further 3 screws hidden below the stick on legend plate for the control
buttons!!

One of the first things I try when there are any obvious screws is a
firm finger pressure over any labels. You can detect the hollow
through quite thick foil labels, POP to take a sharp pointed knife
and cut a little circle out of the label to gain access (making note
of any serial/model numbers that may get "edited" in the process.

I had tried finger pressure.

I don't do enough printing to justify a colour laser: mostly b/w copying
plus photos for which it has been excellent.

Is that Espon an "all in one"?
Yes. I fully concur with opinions about ink costs/head cleaning etc. but
it has done all I needed for around 8 years.

We don't do much color, our HP CP1515n
is fine for the vast majority of printing. Serious photos I'd upload
to Photobox and get a proper prints. Most of our printing is
monochrome and I've set up all the window boxes default printers to
use black only, you chose another "printer" if you want colour.

I'll reassemble it tomorrow but don't believe I have fixed anything. The
new version is up and running. Bit quicker but otherwise similar spec. +
unneeded wi-fi.


--
Tim Lamb

In message , The Natural Philosopher
writes
On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

The perils of depending on spell checkers.


--
Tim Lamb

On 22/05/14 08:04, Fredxxx wrote:
On 22/05/2014 02:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic.../english/prize

suggests it can be either.

Thisi isnt US.D-I-Y

--
Ineptocracy

(in-ep-toc-ra-cy) €“ a system of government where the least capable to
lead are elected by the least capable of producing, and where the
members of society least likely to sustain themselves or succeed, are
rewarded with goods and services paid for by the confiscated wealth of a
diminishing number of producers.

In message o.uk, Dave
Liquorice writes
On Thu, 22 May 2014 02:23:43 +0100, The Natural Philosopher wrote:

On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

'twas actually Mr Lamb not I. B-)

Guilty:-)


--
Tim Lamb

On 22/05/2014 08:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/05/14 08:04, Fredxxx wrote:
On 22/05/2014 02:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic.../english/prize

suggests it can be either.

Thisi isnt US.D-I-Y


My copy of the Compact OED gives prise(v) see prize(v), which suggests
that, in the 19th century, prize was the preferred English spelling.

Colin Bignell

On 22/05/2014 08:47, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 22/05/14 08:04, Fredxxx wrote:
On 22/05/2014 02:23, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
On 21/05/14 20:25, Dave Liquorice wrote:
A prize off access plate g
prise off

http://www.collinsdictionary.com/dic.../english/prize

suggests it can be either.

Thisi isnt US.D-I-Y

Did you mean "This isn't US.D-I-Y"?

Can you see the radio button on that page I gave to indicate that
"British English" has been selected?

Anyone would think there was an envy element towards the US.

On 21/05/2014 10:20, Tim Lamb wrote:
I don't do enough printing to justify a colour laser: mostly b/w copying
plus photos for which it has been excellent.

We have got a Lexmark CS510de - a bit over £200. Far, far better than I
expected. For "office" quality the colour is very good. (Definitely not
as good as a decent inkjet working well. But much faster, no head clogs,
etc.)

--
Rod

In message , polygonum
writes
On 21/05/2014 10:20, Tim Lamb wrote:
I don't do enough printing to justify a colour laser: mostly b/w copying
plus photos for which it has been excellent.

We have got a Lexmark CS510de - a bit over £200. Far, far better than I
expected. For "office" quality the colour is very good. (Definitely not
as good as a decent inkjet working well. But much faster, no head
clogs, etc.)

The old Epson has been re-assembled. Works OK as a copier/scanner but
refuses to print from the computer. Different set of squark/clunk/click
noises followed by *paper jam* message.

Anyone want some new free ink cartridges? Office depot compatible with
EpsonT055240

Also 3 left over screws:-)


--
Tim Lamb