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It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think
it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. |
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On 16/03/2014 14:52, MM wrote:
It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Wire brush back to the steel, and solder it that way? The mian problem, though, is that if the leak is due to corrosion, getting back to good steel is likely to leave a large hole, which is going to be "fun" to patch if all you have is normal soldering gear. You'll probably need to use a blowtorch to get the metal hot enough to activate the flux and melt the solder, too. You don't need anything too drastic on the blowlamp line to braze, though. I've seen it done it with a standard butane torch before now, and the flux and rods are obtainable from any welding supplier. -- Tciao for Now! John. |
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MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. two part epoxy putty? -- From KT24 Using a RISC OS computer running v5.18 |
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![]() "MM" wrote in message ... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. "Bakers Fluid" is used to solder zinc. |
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On 16/03/2014 15:21, John Williamson wrote:
On 16/03/2014 14:52, MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Wire brush back to the steel, and solder it that way? The mian problem, though, is that if the leak is due to corrosion, getting back to good steel is likely to leave a large hole, which is going to be "fun" to patch if all you have is normal soldering gear. You'll probably need to use a blowtorch to get the metal hot enough to activate the flux and melt the solder, too. You don't need anything too drastic on the blowlamp line to braze, though. I've seen it done it with a standard butane torch before now, and the flux and rods are obtainable from any welding supplier. It should solder OK as described by John but you may need an active (acidic) flux rather than normal rosin-based soldering flux. This one might be OK http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HIGH-PURIT...item35d30a2ba3 If the joint has a big hole you could wrap copper wire around it (e.g. stripped from T&E) to help bridge the gap. A gas-torch may be useful to achieve the required temperature unless you have a BIG soldering iron. Or for a less elegant solution, use "plumbers" epoxy. http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Plumbers-M...item1c33e25206 (not what *I* would have called Plumbers Mait) |
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MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Sugru? Gordon |
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"MM" wrote in message
... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. ROTFLMAO You mean that the can is ****ed. -- Adam |
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![]() It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Tank filler from any good motorists store or Buy a new one |
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"Nthkentman" wrote in message
... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Tank filler from any good motorists store or Buy a new one A nice piece of advice but you are forgetting who the OP is. He is so tight that he would not give you the steam off his ****. -- Adam |
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On 16/03/2014 18:10, ARW wrote:
"MM" wrote in message ... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. ROTFLMAO You mean that the can is ****ed. Roughly what I was thinking, but you expressed it really well. ![]() |
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"GB" wrote in message ...
On 16/03/2014 18:10, ARW wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. ROTFLMAO You mean that the can is ****ed. Roughly what I was thinking, but you expressed it really well. ![]() I regularly solder galvanised sheet with a good result using 'lead free' plumbers solder and the appropriate flux. However be aware that I am using new shiny plate. In your case you need to clean the galvanising thoroughly, either by abrading with a wire wheel, or a mild acid wash. Andrew |
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On 16/03/2014 16:46, Gordon Henderson wrote:
In article , MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Sugru? Gordon Article about Sugru in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...dhulchaointigh -- Rod |
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"MM" wrote in message
... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rBHdZj-qkeQ -- Adam |
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On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:49:36 +0000, polygonum
wrote: On 16/03/2014 16:46, Gordon Henderson wrote: In article , MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Sugru? Gordon Article about Sugru in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...dhulchaointigh It's not cheap though! |
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Is it rusty inside at the join? If so then there is not much you can do, its
just like a car. its g going to carry on rusting whatever you do. Brian -- From the Sofa of Brian Gaff Reply address is active "MM" wrote in message ... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. |
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On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:52:04 PM UTC, MM wrote:
It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. It's knackered, bin it, buy a plastic one. |
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On Monday, March 17, 2014 5:35:40 PM UTC, Onetap wrote:
On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:52:04 PM UTC, MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. It's knackered, bin it, buy a plastic one. The zinc galvanizing is a sacrificial anode; it inhibits the corrosion of the steel until all the zinc has gone. Once the zinc has gone, it's knackered and will perforate repeatedly. It's knackered. Bin it. |
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On 17/03/2014 07:56, . wrote:
On Sun, 16 Mar 2014 19:49:36 +0000, polygonum wrote: On 16/03/2014 16:46, Gordon Henderson wrote: In article , MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. Sugru? Gordon Article about Sugru in the Guardian: http://www.theguardian.com/business/...dhulchaointigh It's not cheap though! Agreed. I am acquainted with an Apple Magsafe laptop connector that was "mended" by someone with Sugru. It looked pretty mucky after a bit of use. The connector failed after a year or two of intermittently working. So the Sugru was simply an extra expense, and a delaying factor in going for the right solution. It is interesting, it might have its place, but I am sceptical, especially at the price. -- Rod |
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On Mon, 17 Mar 2014 12:30:23 -0700 (PDT), Onetap
wrote: On Monday, March 17, 2014 5:35:40 PM UTC, Onetap wrote: On Sunday, March 16, 2014 2:52:04 PM UTC, MM wrote: It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. It's knackered, bin it, buy a plastic one. The zinc galvanizing is a sacrificial anode; it inhibits the corrosion of the steel until all the zinc has gone. Once the zinc has gone, it's knackered and will perforate repeatedly. It's knackered. Bin it. That little 'exchange' just put me in mind of the very first episode of Red Dwarf for some reason. :-) -- Regards, J B Good |
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On 2014-03-16, ARW wrote:
"MM" wrote in message ... It's leaking around the spout where it joins to the can. I don't think it's possible to solder a galvanised can, or is there some approach I could take? I don't have access to brazing gear. New cans are quite expensive and this can is fine, apart from the leak. ROTFLMAO You mean that the can is ****ed. Exactly. Plastic watering thingies are not expensive, keep one for particular purposes (watering, weedkiller, herbicide). My neighbour used weld galvanised steel into trailers. I warned him that zinc fumes were at best poisonous. Cancer killed him. I would see him late at night, welding, with fumes rising, like a sorcerer. Unless you wirebrushed well back to what? 22 steel?.. -- maus |
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replying to Onetap, theDuck01 wrote:
Almost 6 years ago I inherited an old galvanised watering can; the only problem was it had developed a leak in its base. A bit of wire brushing exposed a small hole. At first I fixed it with Araldite; this worked for a few years, but it eventually failed. My second attempt was with SUPER STEEL; this worked for a few more years; but it eventually failed. So I decided to research a soldering solution. This is what I found: *** Use lead/tin 60:40 solder *** Use "killed spirits" flux *** Use a tin plate patch Killed spirit was made by dissolving zinc in concentrated hydrochloric acid. The internet helped with the details. The tin plate patch was easily crafted from a tin can. The watering can base and back of patch was cleaned. Both surfaces were painted will killed spirit and then tinned with the solder. The patch was held in place, heated and extra solder added. The result was a very workable patch (see photos) https://www.homeownershub.com/img/f9 https://www.homeownershub.com/img/fa |
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