H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:31:13 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the
ambulance arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the
very least four working days], and also contacted the
police and a solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug
in a 110V extension lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical
assault against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in
college recently because some **** reported him for giving
him a quick poke when telling him to get off his phone, no
harm was caused by the 'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant
to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of our units is gone
completely tits up until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger
and in a way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school
as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and
was at school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and
respect others that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere
either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't become acceptable
just because it is a one off.

Poking someone for ****ing around with their mobile phone is NOT
assault.

It most certainly is!

Try poking the next person you see using a mobile, you may welol find
out how erronious that statement is.


It's not assault if I am charge of the person using the phone.

--
Adam

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:20:54 -0700 (PDT), mike
wrote:

On Jun 2, 8:30 pm, H. Neary wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells. I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance
arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the very least four working
days], and also contacted the police and a solicitor.

HN

Since you seem (rightly) offended by the notion of assault, how do
you justify insurance fraud?


It isn't insurance fraud. The HSE have a duty to inspect reportable
incidents and if some criminal assaulted me I would take quite a while
to recover from the effects. I would certainly not want to return to a
job where older men payed unwanted interest in, and interfered with my
genitalia in a hurry.

You are safe. I punched a pair of ******** and not a ****.

--
Adam

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:44:42 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:35:13 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then. Was the lecturer
Insane or did he suffer from some severe nervous trauma where he
had no control over his movements?


Suppose I were to come along and give you a quick poke, how would
you like it?

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Sorry, but you've reductio ad absurded yourself into arsedom.

You just dont get it do you?

When is a poke allowed and acceptable, how hard should the poke be,
under what circumstances can it be applied, what age group should the
poke be limited to, how many pokes are acceptable in the course of a
day, month, year?

Should these pokes be delivered in private so as not to cause a loss
of self esteem to the victim being poked.

Why do you find it so objectionable when I ask you how you would react
to being poked, yet you consider it to be fair play when applied to
others.

As I suggested to the apprentice abuser, go poke a policeman, then you
will see how acceptable a means of interaction it is.

It is easy to blackmailing a police officer.


--
Adam

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:31:13 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the
ambulance arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the
very least four working days], and also contacted the
police and a solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug
in a 110V extension lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical
assault against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in
college recently because some **** reported him for giving
him a quick poke when telling him to get off his phone, no
harm was caused by the 'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant
to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of our units is gone
completely tits up until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger
and in a way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school
as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and
was at school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and
respect others that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere
either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't become acceptable
just because it is a one off.

Poking someone for ****ing around with their mobile phone is NOT
assault.


I didn't think you were into poking too.

Never read my posts then. Fancy a 4some?


--
Adam

H. Neary wrote:

Yes indeed, give the plonker a hiding. Then scrap the courts, who
needs formal justice if punishment can be carried out instantly?

Scrap the police next.

Who needs them?

Perhaps you can tell me where the police were when the **** tried to
kill me and my wife yesterday?

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:35:13 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then. Was the lecturer Insane or
did he suffer from some severe nervous trauma where he had no control
over his movements?


Suppose I were to come along and give you a quick poke, how would you
like it?

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe a few
of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it is, you
could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Sorry, but you've reductio ad absurded yourself into arsedom.

Hands up all those who had a blackboard rubber chucked at them?

regards

--
Tim Lamb

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then.

Yes, just an intention to attract his attention.

Was the lecturer Insane or did he suffer from some severe
nervous trauma where he had no control over his movements?

Nope, just doing what makes sense.

Suppose I were to come along and give
you a quick poke, how would you like it?

Happens all the time, I don't give a damn.

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Completely silly.

In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue
yonder.co.uk scribeth thus
dennis@home wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

Everyone is expected to know what is required of them and
perform accordingly.

Does this include apprentices?


We don't have them. Someone straight from full time education
would probably be allocated a position in "spreadsheet land"
before they went to site.

I never see youngsters on site. The last time I saw what I assumed
were apprentices, they were pulling cables through at a water
treatment works ten years back. They worked for a well known firm
of Welsh Electrical contractors. I remember them because of the
stupid infighting they had with each other, and even watched a
pair being seperated by their colleagues.

I don't think the company still employs such people. Behaviour
like that is not on, indeed on a recent FAT, I saw no one under
25 on their premises [Apart from the somewhat scenic receptionist
of course]. HN

So how do the young learn anything useful if industry doesn't teach
them anything?.

They can't learn it all in school or tech college...

Adam doesn't want to teach them anything..
If he did they would get his job.

I prefer to teach them to think for themselves. Something that we do not
often do these days.


Quite...

I set the apprentices tasks and challenges that mean they have to think for
themselves instead of me just wiping their arses. They do not like it. They
like to live in a world where they are protected by their Mother and have
everything done for them.


Indeed... Been there seen that..


--
Tony Sayer

"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...



Hands up all those who had a blackboard rubber chucked at them?

Hands up all those who were groped by a dirty old electrician?

"ARWadsworth" wrote in message
...
H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:20:54 -0700 (PDT), mike
wrote:

On Jun 2, 8:30 pm, H. Neary wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells. I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance
arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the very least four working
days], and also contacted the police and a solicitor.

HN

Since you seem (rightly) offended by the notion of assault, how do
you justify insurance fraud?


It isn't insurance fraud. The HSE have a duty to inspect reportable
incidents and if some criminal assaulted me I would take quite a while
to recover from the effects. I would certainly not want to return to a
job where older men payed unwanted interest in, and interfered with my
genitalia in a hurry.

You are safe. I punched a pair of ******** and not a ****.

--
Adam

:facepalm:
LOL

On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:15:49 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue
yonder.co.uk scribeth thus
dennis@home wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

Everyone is expected to know what is required of them and
perform accordingly.

Does this include apprentices?


We don't have them. Someone straight from full time education
would probably be allocated a position in "spreadsheet land"
before they went to site.

I never see youngsters on site. The last time I saw what I assumed
were apprentices, they were pulling cables through at a water
treatment works ten years back. They worked for a well known firm
of Welsh Electrical contractors. I remember them because of the
stupid infighting they had with each other, and even watched a
pair being seperated by their colleagues.

I don't think the company still employs such people. Behaviour
like that is not on, indeed on a recent FAT, I saw no one under
25 on their premises [Apart from the somewhat scenic receptionist
of course]. HN

So how do the young learn anything useful if industry doesn't teach
them anything?.

They can't learn it all in school or tech college...

Adam doesn't want to teach them anything..
If he did they would get his job.

I prefer to teach them to think for themselves. Something that we do not
often do these days.


Quite...

I set the apprentices tasks and challenges that mean they have to think for
themselves instead of me just wiping their arses. They do not like it. They
like to live in a world where they are protected by their Mother and have
everything done for them.


Indeed... Been there seen that..


Mine made it through to HNC's and probably degrees also and I would
hope it was in some part due to the fact that I ensured that any
question was answered and researched if I couldn't respond instantly.


I suppose I could come up with the odd sarcastic comment when
elemetary mistakes were made..... Still nobodies perfect. Incidentally
they all went home uncorrupted by foul language and their genitals
untouched.

What was so wrong with that?

HN

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:24:42 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:22:46 +0100, gremlin_95

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke
when telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the
'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!!
So now, one of our units is gone completely tits up until this mess
is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person. How would you take it
if someone walked up and poked you, or is it a normal greeting in your
part of the country.

I went through many years of college and University and never saw
anyone get assaulted once. I is not a normal or acceptable form of
communication you know.

Poking someone who is messing on their phone instead of learning is not
assault.

Really?

Yes, really.

Try correcting youir postman, a traffic warden or a police officer
with a poke.

Those arent distracted by the phone they are playing with.

Your learning experience would probably benefit a great deal.

dennis@home wrote:
"Tim Lamb" wrote in message
...



Hands up all those who had a blackboard rubber chucked at them?

Hands up all those who were groped by a dirty old electrician?

I do have a photo of me fisting the girlfriend.



--
Adam

On 03/06/2012 17:31, ARWadsworth wrote:
H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.
I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance
arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the very least four
working days], and also contacted the police and a
solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug in a
110V extension lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical
assault against me.

HN
Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick
poke when telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by
the 'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone
anyway!!! So now, one of our units is gone completely tits up
until this mess is sorted.

That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger and
in a way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was
at school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and
respect others that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere
either...

There is a separation between the two..
There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't become acceptable
just because it is a one off.
Poking someone for ****ing around with their mobile phone is NOT assault.

The poke wasn't even a punishment anyway, just a quick way of getting
the guys attention has the lecturer happened to spot the phone as he
walked past.

--
David

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:03:00 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 13:24:42 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sat, 02 Jun 2012 23:22:46 +0100, gremlin_95


Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in
college recently because some **** reported him for giving him
a quick poke when telling him to get off his phone, no harm was
caused by the 'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant to be on his
phone anyway!!! So now, one of our units is gone completely
tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person. How would you
take it if someone walked up and poked you, or is it a normal
greeting in your part of the country.

I went through many years of college and University and never saw
anyone get assaulted once. I is not a normal or acceptable form of
communication you know.

Poking someone who is messing on their phone instead of learning is
not assault.
Really?

Try correcting youir postman, a traffic warden or a police officer
with a poke. Your learning experience would probably benefit a great
deal.

They are adults doing a job and I am not in charge of them. However if I
was
training them or in charge of them I WOULD poke them if they were messing
about.

And I have been arrested for asaulting a police officer (but not charged).

You do not seem to be a fit person to be in charge of anyone.

You don't yourself.

Perhaps if you improved your communication skills and toned down
your language a bit you wouldn't find a need to resort to violence.

Perhaps if you got a clue and realised that an occasional poke
to get someone's attention can be much more effective, you
wouldn't find a need to gabble on to them for so long.

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:15:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then.

Yes, just an intention to attract his attention.

Was the lecturer Insane or did he suffer from some severe
nervous trauma where he had no control over his movements?

Nope, just doing what makes sense.

Suppose I were to come along and give
you a quick poke, how would you like it?

Happens all the time, I don't give a damn.

You poor imbecile. Do you have no self respect. Who are these people
that insist on poking you? Where do they poke you. Can we fix up an
appointment so I can poke you too. I would want a certificate of
mental competence, so I could poke you without fear of a lawsuit or
comeback.

Where would you like to be poked incidentally? I will not poke naughty
bit's you know!


I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Completely silly.

It isn't silly. Anyone that appreciates a good poke need a lot of
support.


If you were lucky enough to have one, what would you do to your young
apprentice?

HN

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance arrived,
had
a month off work [ Or at the very least four working days], and also
contacted the police and a solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug in a 110V
extension
lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical assault
against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger and in a
way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was at
school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and respect others
that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't
become acceptable just because it is a one off.

Poking someone to get their attention when they are
concentrating on something else isnt physical assault.

I'm sure the systematic abuse that is still coming to light
in church schools, orphanages, detetion centres etc,

So is murder. Doesn't mean that poking
someone to get their attention is murder tho.

didn't start with any intention of prolonged repeated assaults either.

Bet most of it did.

To bully someone just because he is a few steps below you on the
professional ladder is a pretty lame and despicable thing to do.

Poking someone to get their attention isnt bullying anyone.

Even you must have noticed that the cops do grab people at times
and take them to their vans etc. That isnt physical assault either.

I would tend to wonder about the motives behind this thuggery

Your problem.

incidentally. When I did my "apprenticeship" I and the three or four
others working for the company had the benefit of day release, and
this gave us a technical knowledge of the subject that far exceeded
some of the engineers, who quite often were in place because of
experience in a field that was by this time mutating rapidly.

The professional jealousy coupled with the threats to their careers
was probably the reason behind the arrogance and insults a few were so
keen to dish out.

That clearly isnt the case with Adam.

Although it never happened I am reasonably certain any assault on an
apprentice at my workplace even in those days would have been met with
instant dismissal.

Poking someone to get their attention isnt physical assault.

And Adam clearly hasn't been dismissed, instantly or otherwise.

On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 19:41:36 +0100, Tim Lamb
wrote:

Hands up all those who had a blackboard rubber chucked at them?

waves
It missed and clonked the idiot behind.

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was at
school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and respect others
that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't become acceptable
just because it is a one off.

I'm sure the systematic abuse that is still coming to light in church
schools, orphanages, detetion centres etc, didn't start with any
intention of prolonged repeated assaults either.


I'm sure you'll have read what I wrote some 7 lines above...

To bully someone just because he is a few steps below you on the
professional ladder is a pretty lame and despicable thing to do.


Indeed it is..

I would tend to wonder about the motives behind this thuggery
incidentally. When I did my "apprenticeship" I and the three or four
others working for the company had the benefit of day release, and
this gave us a technical knowledge of the subject that far exceeded
some of the engineers, who quite often were in place because of
experience in a field that was by this time mutating rapidly.

The professional jealousy coupled with the threats to their careers
was probably the reason behind the arrogance and insults a few were so
keen to dish out.

Although it never happened I am reasonably certain any assault on an
apprentice at my workplace even in those days would have been met with
instant dismissal.


Well perhaps you've had shall we say a more sheltered existence than
some have had.

Of course in the ideal world all will be well .. all will be sweetness
and light .. all will be just so but it isn't like that is it?.

Course you will argue what does knocking the **** out of people result
in etc..

I do not do that. I do not advocate that. I have not have had to but
sometimes there are people around who have difficulty reasoning, there
are sometimes working circumstances where they don't understand logic
and debate, sometimes a wallop is about all they do understand..

Sometimes that might be a better option, sometimes. I'm not advocating
consistently knocking the **** out of anyone, abusing anyone mentally or
physically or systematically bullying anyone, but it does happen and I
expect that it will do not all the time everywhere but sometimes..

Its an imperfect world .. always was prolly sadly always will be..
--
Tony Sayer

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
Well its in apprentices best interests to check, after all its his
"licence" that will get the blame, driver responsible for the
condition of his vehicle.

Commendable to see that Adam is enforcing these checks.....

I have my own van. I would not let those daft little *******s check it.

No Adam, for their benefit otherwise who will they learn;?..

After all what happens to young drivers?, they get "past" the test get a
car and who teaches them anything else?...

They work it out for themselves, just like we did and adam did.

I don’t bother to do any more than Adam does myself
except that I do occasionally check the radiator every
few times I refill the windscreen washer. I don’t bother
to refill the windscreen washer on any timed basis,
I just wait till it runs dry and refill it then.

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:18:43 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance arrived,
had
a month off work [ Or at the very least four working days], and also
contacted the police and a solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug in a 110V
extension
lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical assault
against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger and in a
way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was at
school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and respect others
that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't
become acceptable just because it is a one off.

Poking someone to get their attention when they are
concentrating on something else isnt physical assault.

I'm sure the systematic abuse that is still coming to light
in church schools, orphanages, detetion centres etc,

So is murder. Doesn't mean that poking
someone to get their attention is murder tho.

didn't start with any intention of prolonged repeated assaults either.

Bet most of it did.

To bully someone just because he is a few steps below you on the
professional ladder is a pretty lame and despicable thing to do.

Poking someone to get their attention isnt bullying anyone.

Even you must have noticed that the cops do grab people at times
and take them to their vans etc. That isnt physical assault either.

Fine next time you feel the urge to poke someone, drag them off to
your vehicle instead. No problem, everything solved!



I would tend to wonder about the motives behind this thuggery

Your problem.

No, The victims.


incidentally. When I did my "apprenticeship" I and the three or four
others working for the company had the benefit of day release, and
this gave us a technical knowledge of the subject that far exceeded
some of the engineers, who quite often were in place because of
experience in a field that was by this time mutating rapidly.

The professional jealousy coupled with the threats to their careers
was probably the reason behind the arrogance and insults a few were so
keen to dish out.

That clearly isnt the case with Adam.

No the IEE regs take a long time move up an edition.




Although it never happened I am reasonably certain any assault on an
apprentice at my workplace even in those days would have been met with
instant dismissal.

Poking someone to get their attention isnt physical assault.

It certainly is.


And Adam clearly hasn't been dismissed, instantly or otherwise.


As I have not come across a contractor with his approach anywhere in
the UK, the term Troll comes to mind. I have worked alonside people
who's only achievement in life was the CSCS card, they still managed
to communicate without resorting to filth or violence.


If he was caught assaulting people on any site I have worked on, he
wouldn't hsave time to sign out.


HN

In article , Rod Speed
scribeth thus


"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
Well its in apprentices best interests to check, after all its his
"licence" that will get the blame, driver responsible for the
condition of his vehicle.

Commendable to see that Adam is enforcing these checks.....

I have my own van. I would not let those daft little *******s check it.

No Adam, for their benefit otherwise who will they learn;?..

After all what happens to young drivers?, they get "past" the test get a
car and who teaches them anything else?...

They work it out for themselves, just like we did and adam did.

Well One I met a while ago didn't even know where the put water so it
went in the Oil filler cap;!..

Daft sod..

I dont bother to do any more than Adam does myself
except that I do occasionally check the radiator every
few times I refill the windscreen washer. I dont bother
to refill the windscreen washer on any timed basis,
I just wait till it runs dry and refill it then.


--
Tony Sayer

On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:50:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
.. .
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:31:13 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance
arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the very least four
working days], and also contacted the police and a
solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug in a
110V extension lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical
assault against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick
poke when telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by
the 'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone
anyway!!! So now, one of our units is gone completely tits up
until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger and
in a way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was
at school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and
respect others that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere
either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't become acceptable
just because it is a one off.

Poking someone for ****ing around with their mobile phone is NOT assault.

It most certainly is!

Nope, not if you are doing that just to get their attention!!!

Try poking the next person you see using a mobile,
you may welol find out how erronious that statement is.

Or you may not if for example you poke them to draw their
attention to the hole they are about to fall into or the car
that's about to run them over etc etc etc.

Never heard of Darwin?

Personally I would not bother coming into contact with some idiot
tranfixed by a mobile.

People (usually young women) walk out in front of my car all the time,
totally impervious to anything but their mobiles. Luckily my reflexes
have saved them from injury and me from a long drawn out sequence of
police interviews and paperwork sessions.

If they get flattened by someone else I would lose no sleep at all.
The fact that someone is about to walk under a bus or lorry under
their own free will, is no excuse to assault them.



HN

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 17:31:13 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote:

H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 14:59:55 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells.

I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance
arrived, had a month off work [ Or at the very least four
working days], and also contacted the police and a
solicitor.
So are you are saying that you could not manage to plug in a
110V extension lead to a 110V transformer?
No of couse not!

I'm saying that I would take full advantage of any physical
assault against me.

HN

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick
poke when telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by
the 'poke' and the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone
anyway!!! So now, one of our units is gone completely tits up
until this mess is sorted.


That sort of thing happened where I worked when I was younger and
in a way was expected behaviour and accepted and at school as well..

I seriously don't think it did me and anyone I worked with and was
at school with any harm at all, just we learnt to behave and
respect others that bit quicker...

And No its no excuse for long term systematic abuse anywhere
either...

There is a separation between the two..

There is no seperation. Physical assault doesn't become acceptable
just because it is a one off.

Poking someone for ****ing around with their mobile phone is NOT assault.

It most certainly is!

Nope, not if you are doing that just to get their attention!!!

Try poking the next person you see using a mobile,
you may welol find out how erronious that statement is.

Or you may not if for example you poke them to draw their
attention to the hole they are about to fall into or the car
that's about to run them over etc etc etc.

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:20:54 -0700 (PDT), mike
wrote:

On Jun 2, 8:30 pm, H. Neary wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells. I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance arrived, had
a month off work [ Or at the very least four working days], and also
contacted the police and a solicitor.

HN

Since you seem (rightly) offended by the notion of assault, how do you
justify insurance fraud?

It isn't insurance fraud.

Corse it is. You don't qualify for a month off work, or even a few days
either.

You don't need an ambulance either.

The HSE have a duty to inspect reportable incidents

But not that sort of thing.

and if some criminal assaulted me

He isnt a criminal.

I would take quite a while to recover from the effects.

You poor delicate little flower...

I would certainly not want to return to a job where older
men payed unwanted interest in, and interfered with my
genitalia in a hurry.

You poor delicate little flower...

I have never yet seen a contract of employment requiring staff
to take abuse and physical punishment as part of the package.

Have a look at how the military operates sometime...

In article , H. Neary
scribeth thus
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:15:49 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue
yonder.co.uk scribeth thus
dennis@home wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

Everyone is expected to know what is required of them and
perform accordingly.

Does this include apprentices?


We don't have them. Someone straight from full time education
would probably be allocated a position in "spreadsheet land"
before they went to site.

I never see youngsters on site. The last time I saw what I assumed
were apprentices, they were pulling cables through at a water
treatment works ten years back. They worked for a well known firm
of Welsh Electrical contractors. I remember them because of the
stupid infighting they had with each other, and even watched a
pair being seperated by their colleagues.

I don't think the company still employs such people. Behaviour
like that is not on, indeed on a recent FAT, I saw no one under
25 on their premises [Apart from the somewhat scenic receptionist
of course]. HN

So how do the young learn anything useful if industry doesn't teach
them anything?.

They can't learn it all in school or tech college...

Adam doesn't want to teach them anything..
If he did they would get his job.

I prefer to teach them to think for themselves. Something that we do not
often do these days.


Quite...

I set the apprentices tasks and challenges that mean they have to think for
themselves instead of me just wiping their arses. They do not like it. They
like to live in a world where they are protected by their Mother and have
everything done for them.


Indeed... Been there seen that..


Mine made it through to HNC's and probably degrees also and I would
hope it was in some part due to the fact that I ensured that any
question was answered and researched if I couldn't respond instantly.


I suppose I could come up with the odd sarcastic comment when
elemetary mistakes were made..... Still nobodies perfect. Incidentally
they all went home uncorrupted by foul language and their genitals
untouched.

What was so wrong with that?

Nothing..

HN



--
Tony Sayer

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 15:44:42 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:35:13 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then. Was the lecturer Insane or
did he suffer from some severe nervous trauma where he had no control
over his movements?


Suppose I were to come along and give you a quick poke, how would you
like it?

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe a few
of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it is, you
could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Sorry, but you've reductio ad absurded yourself into arsedom.

You just dont get it do you?

When is a poke allowed and acceptable, how hard should the poke be,
under what circumstances can it be applied, what age group should the
poke be limited to, how many pokes are acceptable in the course of a
day, month, year?

Should these pokes be delivered in private so as not to cause a loss
of self esteem to the victim being poked.

Why do you find it so objectionable when I ask you how you would react
to being poked, yet you consider it to be fair play when applied to
others.

As I suggested to the apprentice abuser, go poke a policeman, then you
will see how acceptable a means of interaction it is.

I suggest you try using impeccable language language to a cop
who is trying to get you off the road when you are 'protesting'
something stupid and see how long you last before the cop pokes you.

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 19:41:36 +0100, Tim Lamb wrote:

In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:35:13 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then. Was the lecturer Insane or
did he suffer from some severe nervous trauma where he had no control
over his movements?


Suppose I were to come along and give you a quick poke, how would you
like it?

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe a few
of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it is, you
could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Sorry, but you've reductio ad absurded yourself into arsedom.

Hands up all those who had a blackboard rubber chucked at them?

regards

Me. Someone in the art class was take to hospital following just such an
occurrence. The master did not stop teaching.

--
Use the BIG mirror service in the UK:
http://www.mirrorservice.org

*lightning protection* - a w_tom conductor

hn Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:43:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
.. .
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:15:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke
when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then.

Yes, just an intention to attract his attention.

Was the lecturer Insane or did he suffer from some severe
nervous trauma where he had no control over his movements?

Nope, just doing what makes sense.

Suppose I were to come along and give
you a quick poke, how would you like it?

Happens all the time, I don't give a damn.

You poor imbecile.


Why is that any better than 'foul' language ?

My diagnosis was made on your responses, If I were to use the slang
term then you would have become an idiot. Both terms are along way off
the filth so obvious in the history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile

Do you have no self respect.

No lack of respect involved.

Being poked is some kind of "tribal" ritual then?


Who are these people that insist on poking you?

Those that realise that it's a good way to get someone's attention
when they are concentrating on doing something else.

Why doesn't an "excuse me" work, it's what the rest of the country
uses. If this is too difficult can't you get your peers to grunt
louder?





Where do they poke you.

Usually in the ribs

Is this by mutual consent, do you draw up a target area? Do you
remove any sharps from your pockets prior to the event, or is it a
totally surprising occurrance?

..

Can we fix up an appointment so I can poke you too.

Nope, don't bother with appointments.

As we have never met then can you parade around with an "I want a good
poking" sticker. Mistakes may not be appreciated.



I would want a certificate of mental competence, so I
could poke you without fear of a lawsuit or comeback.

Your problem. You aint gunna get one. I don't bother with paperwork.

This could be insurmountable:-(



Where would you like to be poked incidentally?

I don't care.

I will not poke naughty bit's you know!

Nothing naughty about any of my bits.

They arn't in some electricians toolbox are they?


I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Completely silly.

Probably, I'll bet theres quite a bit of drool and slobber now. We'll
terminate the pokes with the nursing home admittance.



It isn't silly.

Everyone can see for themselves that it is.

I have already pointed out that it isn't!


Anyone that appreciates a good poke need a lot of support.

Nope.

Despite what some apprentice violaters may suggest, poking is a form
of assault that is not greatly appreciated in the civilised world.

If you were lucky enough to have one, what
would you do to your young apprentice?

Even sillier.

Go on! Share with us, bring it out in the open, would you go for the
genitals like wadsworth, or just poke them into submission?


HN

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 20:15:49 +0100, tony sayer
wrote:

In article , ARWadsworth adamwadsworth@blue
yonder.co.uk scribeth thus
dennis@home wrote:
"tony sayer" wrote in message
...

Everyone is expected to know what is required of them and
perform accordingly.

Does this include apprentices?


We don't have them. Someone straight from full time education
would probably be allocated a position in "spreadsheet land"
before they went to site.

I never see youngsters on site. The last time I saw what I assumed
were apprentices, they were pulling cables through at a water
treatment works ten years back. They worked for a well known firm
of Welsh Electrical contractors. I remember them because of the
stupid infighting they had with each other, and even watched a
pair being seperated by their colleagues.

I don't think the company still employs such people. Behaviour
like that is not on, indeed on a recent FAT, I saw no one under
25 on their premises [Apart from the somewhat scenic receptionist
of course]. HN

So how do the young learn anything useful if industry doesn't teach
them anything?.

They can't learn it all in school or tech college...

Adam doesn't want to teach them anything..
If he did they would get his job.

I prefer to teach them to think for themselves. Something that we do not
often do these days.


Quite...

I set the apprentices tasks and challenges that mean they have to think
for
themselves instead of me just wiping their arses. They do not like it.
They
like to live in a world where they are protected by their Mother and have
everything done for them.


Indeed... Been there seen that..


Mine made it through to HNC's and probably degrees also and I would
hope it was in some part due to the fact that I ensured that any
question was answered and researched if I couldn't respond instantly.

I suppose I could come up with the odd sarcastic comment when
elemetary mistakes were made..... Still nobodies perfect. Incidentally
they all went home uncorrupted by foul language and their genitals
untouched.

What was so wrong with that?

Its just plain silly on the language.

On Jun 3, 5:47*pm, H. Neary wrote:
On Sun, 3 Jun 2012 09:20:54 -0700 (PDT), mike
wrote:

On Jun 2, 8:30*pm, H. Neary wrote:

The idiot must really be short of a few brain cells. I would have
screamed in agony, rolled on the floor till the ambulance arrived, had
a month off work [ Or at the very least four working days], and also
contacted the police and a solicitor.

HN

Since you seem (rightly) offended by the notion of assault, how do you
justify insurance fraud?

It isn't insurance fraud. The HSE have a duty to inspect reportable
incidents and if some criminal assaulted me I would take quite a while
to recover from the effects. I would certainly not want to return to a
job where older men payed unwanted interest in, and interfered with my
genitalia in a hurry.

I think most people reading what you said would agree that it was your
intention to over-egg an insurance claim like the fraudsters who claim
whiplash when they've had some minor car accident, or like some
dishonest footballer rolling round the pitch pretending to be hurt to
gain some unfair advantage. It's nice to see you hold yourself to a
lower standard than those around you.


I have never yet seen a contract of employment requiring staff to take
abuse and physical punishment as part of the package.

http://www.army.mod.uk/

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:15:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
. ..
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke
when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then.

Yes, just an intention to attract his attention.

Was the lecturer Insane or did he suffer from some severe
nervous trauma where he had no control over his movements?

Nope, just doing what makes sense.

Suppose I were to come along and give
you a quick poke, how would you like it?

Happens all the time, I don't give a damn.

You poor imbecile.

Why is that any better than 'foul' language ?

Do you have no self respect.

No lack of respect involved.

Who are these people that insist on poking you?

Those that realise that it's a good way to get someone's attention
when they are concentrating on doing something else.

Where do they poke you.

Usually in the ribs.

Can we fix up an appointment so I can poke you too.

Nope, don't bother with appointments.

I would want a certificate of mental competence, so I
could poke you without fear of a lawsuit or comeback.

Your problem. You aint gunna get one. I don't bother with paperwork.

Where would you like to be poked incidentally?

I don't care.

I will not poke naughty bit's you know!

Nothing naughty about any of my bits.

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Completely silly.

It isn't silly.

Everyone can see for themselves that it is.

Anyone that appreciates a good poke need a lot of support.

Nope.

If you were lucky enough to have one, what
would you do to your young apprentice?

Even sillier.

"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
In article , Rod Speed
scribeth thus


"tony sayer" wrote in message
...
Well its in apprentices best interests to check, after all its his
"licence" that will get the blame, driver responsible for the
condition of his vehicle.

Commendable to see that Adam is enforcing these checks.....

I have my own van. I would not let those daft little *******s check it.

No Adam, for their benefit otherwise who will they learn;?..

After all what happens to young drivers?, they get "past" the test get a
car and who teaches them anything else?...

They work it out for themselves, just like we did and adam did.

Well One I met a while ago didn't even know where the put water so it
went in the Oil filler cap;!..

Daft sod..

Yeah, got a lift when hitch hiking in my youth. The driver didnt even
know if the warning light on the dash was supposed to be on or not.
That was in the 60s.

I dont bother to do any more than Adam does myself
except that I do occasionally check the radiator every
few times I refill the windscreen washer. I dont bother
to refill the windscreen washer on any timed basis,
I just wait till it runs dry and refill it then.

On 03/06/2012 21:48, H. Neary wrote:
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 06:50:12 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:

People (usually young women) walk out in front of my car all the time,
totally impervious to anything but their mobiles. Luckily my reflexes
have saved them from injury and me from a long drawn out sequence of
police interviews and paperwork sessions.

If they get flattened by someone else I would lose no sleep at all.
The fact that someone is about to walk under a bus or lorry under
their own free will, is no excuse to assault them.



Please get your definition of assault corrected.

http://sixthformlaw.info/03_dictionary/dict_a.htm and the case law on
that page in the appropriate paragraph is relevant.

It defines assault under the English legal system as requiring "an act
(noting DPP v Santa-Bermudez (2003) DC) accompanied by a hostile intent
calculated to cause apprehension in the mind of the victim". Poking
someone to get their attention while they are talking on a mobile phone
does *not* constitute assault. On the other hand, just telling them
firmly but politely that if they don't finish the call *now* you'll
knock them out, could constitute what the police call Common Assault,
although the penalty for it is minimal.

If there is no hostile intent, then "Where the hostile intent is not
present, there will be no assault (R v Lamb [1967] CA) unless it is
proved that the alleged assailant was reckless as to whether the
complainant would apprehend immediate and unlawful violence." applies.

Even in the bad old days when I was stuying law, both an action and
hostile intent were required to prove assault.

This is for your information, as the Australian legal system, although
based on the UK system appears to differ in this case, assuming you are
correct about the way assault is viewed there.

Or, to put it another way, if you don't know what you're talking about,
STFU.


--
Tciao for Now!

John.

On 03/06/2012 23:19, John Williamson wrote:
My apologies, the attributes got mixed up and I thought I was replying
to Rod Speed. This is the corrected post.

On 03/06/2012 21:48, H. Neary wrote:

People (usually young women) walk out in front of my car all the time,
totally impervious to anything but their mobiles. Luckily my reflexes
have saved them from injury and me from a long drawn out sequence of
police interviews and paperwork sessions.

If they get flattened by someone else I would lose no sleep at all.
The fact that someone is about to walk under a bus or lorry under
their own free will, is no excuse to assault them.



Please get your definition of assault correct.

http://sixthformlaw.info/03_dictionary/dict_a.htm and the case law on
that page in the appropriate paragraph is relevant.

It defines assault under the English legal system as requiring "an act
(noting DPP v Santa-Bermudez (2003) DC) accompanied by a hostile intent
calculated to cause apprehension in the mind of the victim". Poking
someone to get their attention while they are talking on a mobile phone
does *not* constitute assault. On the other hand, just telling them
firmly but politely that if they don't finish the call *now* you'll
knock them out, could constitute what the police call Common Assault,
although the penalty for that is minimal.

If there is no hostile intent, then "Where the hostile intent is not
present, there will be no assault (R v Lamb [1967] CA) unless it is
proved that the alleged assailant was reckless as to whether the
complainant would apprehend immediate and unlawful violence." applies.

Even in the bad old days when I was stuying law, both an action and
hostile intent were required to prove assault.


Or, to put it another way, if you don't know what you're talking about,
STFU.



--
Tciao for Now!

John.

In message , H. Neary
writes
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then. Was the lecturer Insane or
did he suffer from some severe nervous trauma where he had no control
over his movements?


Suppose I were to come along and give you a quick poke, how would you
like it?

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe a few
of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it is, you
could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.



HN

It wasn't a random poke -it was to emphasise the instruction to get off
his phone - an act of extreme selfishness and impoliteness when he
should have been paying attention.

Physically touching someone is not necessarily an assault.
--
hugh

In message , Tim Lamb
writes
In message , Grimly
Curmudgeon writes
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 11:35:13 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then. Was the lecturer Insane or
did he suffer from some severe nervous trauma where he had no control
over his movements?


Suppose I were to come along and give you a quick poke, how would you
like it?

I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe a few
of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it is, you
could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Sorry, but you've reductio ad absurded yourself into arsedom.

Hands up all those who had a blackboard rubber chucked at them?

regards

We had a history teacher who would be locked up today. We had a points
scoring system for who could get the biggest hammering.
--
hugh

"H. Neary" wrote in message
...
hn Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:43:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:15:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke
when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke'
and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one
of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then.

Yes, just an intention to attract his attention.

Was the lecturer Insane or did he suffer from some severe
nervous trauma where he had no control over his movements?

Nope, just doing what makes sense.

Suppose I were to come along and give
you a quick poke, how would you like it?

Happens all the time, I don't give a damn.

You poor imbecile.


Why is that any better than 'foul' language ?

My diagnosis was made on your responses, If I were to use the slang
term then you would have become an idiot. Both terms are along way off
the filth so obvious in the history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile

Do you have no self respect.

No lack of respect involved.

Being poked is some kind of "tribal" ritual then?


Who are these people that insist on poking you?

Those that realise that it's a good way to get someone's attention
when they are concentrating on doing something else.

Why doesn't an "excuse me" work, it's what the rest of the country
uses. If this is too difficult can't you get your peers to grunt
louder?





Where do they poke you.

Usually in the ribs

Is this by mutual consent, do you draw up a target area? Do you
remove any sharps from your pockets prior to the event, or is it a
totally surprising occurrance?

.

Can we fix up an appointment so I can poke you too.

Nope, don't bother with appointments.

As we have never met then can you parade around with an "I want a good
poking" sticker. Mistakes may not be appreciated.



I would want a certificate of mental competence, so I
could poke you without fear of a lawsuit or comeback.

Your problem. You aint gunna get one. I don't bother with paperwork.

This could be insurmountable:-(



Where would you like to be poked incidentally?

I don't care.

I will not poke naughty bit's you know!

Nothing naughty about any of my bits.

They arn't in some electricians toolbox are they?


I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Completely silly.

Probably, I'll bet theres quite a bit of drool and slobber now. We'll
terminate the pokes with the nursing home admittance.



It isn't silly.

Everyone can see for themselves that it is.

I have already pointed out that it isn't!


Anyone that appreciates a good poke need a lot of support.

Nope.

Despite what some apprentice violaters may suggest, poking is a form
of assault that is not greatly appreciated in the civilised world.

If you were lucky enough to have one, what
would you do to your young apprentice?

Even sillier.

Go on! Share with us, bring it out in the open, would you go for the
genitals like wadsworth, or just poke them into submission?


HN

And here was I thinking wodney was the troll. Could this be a case of "hey
you 2, get a room"?

In message , H. Neary
writes
hn Mon, 4 Jun 2012 07:43:23 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
. ..
On Mon, 4 Jun 2012 05:15:42 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote:



"H. Neary" wrote in message
m...
On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 12:12:44 +0100, Grimly Curmudgeon
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Jun 2012 09:28:57 +0100, H. Neary
wrote:

Well you're an idiot then. We lost a very good lecturer in college
recently because some **** reported him for giving him a quick poke
when
telling him to get off his phone, no harm was caused by the 'poke' and
the guy wasn't even meant to be on his phone anyway!!! So now, one of
our units is gone completely tits up until this mess is sorted.

You justify an atttack and I'm an idiot? Really?

No one has the right to assault another person.

Oh, ffs. It's a question of intent. Please don't be an arse.

So there was no intention to assault then.

Yes, just an intention to attract his attention.

Was the lecturer Insane or did he suffer from some severe
nervous trauma where he had no control over his movements?

Nope, just doing what makes sense.

Suppose I were to come along and give
you a quick poke, how would you like it?

Happens all the time, I don't give a damn.

You poor imbecile.


Why is that any better than 'foul' language ?

My diagnosis was made on your responses, If I were to use the slang
term then you would have become an idiot. Both terms are along way off
the filth so obvious in the history.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Imbecile

Do you have no self respect.

No lack of respect involved.

Being poked is some kind of "tribal" ritual then?


Who are these people that insist on poking you?

Those that realise that it's a good way to get someone's attention
when they are concentrating on doing something else.

Why doesn't an "excuse me" work, it's what the rest of the country
uses. If this is too difficult can't you get your peers to grunt
louder?





Where do they poke you.

Usually in the ribs

Is this by mutual consent, do you draw up a target area? Do you
remove any sharps from your pockets prior to the event, or is it a
totally surprising occurrance?

.

Can we fix up an appointment so I can poke you too.

Nope, don't bother with appointments.

As we have never met then can you parade around with an "I want a good
poking" sticker. Mistakes may not be appreciated.



I would want a certificate of mental competence, so I
could poke you without fear of a lawsuit or comeback.

Your problem. You aint gunna get one. I don't bother with paperwork.

This could be insurmountable:-(



Where would you like to be poked incidentally?

I don't care.

I will not poke naughty bit's you know!

Nothing naughty about any of my bits.

They arn't in some electricians toolbox are they?


I could get a few friends in on the act too if you wanted, maybe
a few of your neighbours also. When they all hear how "right" it
is, you could enjoy being poked & prodded well into retirement.

Completely silly.

Probably, I'll bet theres quite a bit of drool and slobber now. We'll
terminate the pokes with the nursing home admittance.



It isn't silly.

Everyone can see for themselves that it is.

I have already pointed out that it isn't!


Anyone that appreciates a good poke need a lot of support.

Nope.

Despite what some apprentice violaters may suggest, poking is a form
of assault that is not greatly appreciated in the civilised world.

If you were lucky enough to have one, what
would you do to your young apprentice?

Even sillier.

Go on! Share with us, bring it out in the open, would you go for the
genitals like wadsworth, or just poke them into submission?


HN


'bout time you stopped digging.

(Get it poking - digging, oh never mind)
--
hugh

I promise I'll snip next time