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Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just
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On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote:
Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If anyone else is doing any building work nearby, you could take a bucket and a few cups of tea and some biscuits and ask for a shovelful. It usually works for me... especially if I haven't already piled heaps of abuse on them for parking the van across my driveway so I can't get out! dedics |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:09:49 +0100
dedics wrote: If anyone else is doing any building work nearby, you could take a bucket and a few cups of tea and some biscuits and ask for a shovelful. Time it right towards the end of the afternoon and you might even get some ready mixed from the left overs. -- Mike Clarke |
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On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote:
Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. http://www.diy.com/nav/build/buildin...r-5Kg-11867932 -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On 06/04/2012 15:34, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. http://www.diy.com/nav/build/buildin...r-5Kg-11867932 +1 See if you can find one where the packaging isn't split. Not easy with the 25kg size |
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On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote:
Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. -- Cheers, Roger ____________ Please reply to Newsgroup. Whilst email address is valid, it is seldom checked. |
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Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Buy a bag at a garden centre. Leave the rest round in a pile over a landmine Watch neighbours cat become several astronauts! Simples! -- To people who know nothing, anything is possible. To people who know too much, it is a sad fact that they know how little is really possible - and how hard it is to achieve it. |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:34:30 +0100, The Medway Handyman
wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills
wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. MM |
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On Friday, 6 April 2012 18:12:07 UTC+1, MM wrote:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. MM If you really don't want to throw much away, you can spend £2 more than the £3.48 5Kg bag on a 1.25Kg bag of pointing repair mix at B&Q. John |
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On Friday, 6 April 2012 18:12:07 UTC+1, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. MM If you really don't want to throw much away, you can spend £2 more than the £3.48 5Kg bag on a 1.25Kg bag of pointing repair mix at B&Q. Defribrillator needed ASAP. -- Adam |
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"MM" wrote in message ... On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. Try a smaller shop. I saw bags today of 5Kg and 10Kg. And you probably need more than you think. -- Bartc |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:10:47 +0100, MM wrote:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:34:30 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM you have no idea really? 1/2 a kilo will make about a fistful of mortar - IOW enough to do bugger all with- whatever's changed under your paving slab, one fistful of mortar is going to make F all difference.. spend the 3.50 FFS Jim K |
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Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If you are thinking of laying a less than 5mm skin of sand and cement mix over a laid floor it probably wont stick, different stuff is needed. |
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On 07/04/2012 08:20, F Murtz wrote:
MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If you are thinking of laying a less than 5mm skin of sand and cement mix over a laid floor it probably wont stick, different stuff is needed. I keep a 25kg bag of multi purpose in stock at all times. Indoors too. Gets on SWMBO's nerves of course. |
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On 07/04/2012 08:20, F Murtz wrote: MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If you are thinking of laying a less than 5mm skin of sand and cement mix over a laid floor it probably wont stick, different stuff is needed. I keep a 25kg bag of multi purpose in stock at all times. Indoors too. Gets on SWMBO's nerves of course. The gf still complains about the cement mixer that I keep in the lounge when it's not on loan. -- Adam |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:10:26 +0100, "Jim K"
wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:10:47 +0100, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:34:30 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM you have no idea really? 1/2 a kilo will make about a fistful of mortar - IOW enough to do bugger all with- whatever's changed under your paving slab, one fistful of mortar is going to make F all difference.. spend the 3.50 FFS Jim K One fistful is all I need, seriously. The gap is only 5mm, if that. At the moment I am stopping the slab wobbling when I tread on it with a very small wooden wedge. MM |
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On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnW
wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2012 18:12:07 UTC+1, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. MM If you really don't want to throw much away, you can spend £2 more than the £3.48 5Kg bag on a 1.25Kg bag of pointing repair mix at B&Q. John I am NOT going to buy more than I need, then throw the rest away! MM |
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On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:51:21 +0100, "BartC" wrote:
"MM" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. Try a smaller shop. I saw bags today of 5Kg and 10Kg. And you probably need more than you think. I don't need more than I think. I've done this sort of thing several times over the years. This time it's a slab I bought to raise the step out of the back door a tad. The slab is 59cm x 29cm and is proud by 5mm in one corner that needs to be packed out with a VERY small amount of sand/cement mix. MM |
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:20:39 +1000, F Murtz
wrote: MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If you are thinking of laying a less than 5mm skin of sand and cement mix over a laid floor it probably wont stick, different stuff is needed. No, the slab (59cm x 29cm) is resting on the actual concrete path outside the back door and is simply there to raise the step slightly. The slab rocks very slightly when I tread on it because there's a 5mm gap in one corner. At present I have whacked a very small wooden wedge under the corner and the slab is now perfectly firm. But the wedge will dislodge over time, which is why I want a more permanent solution with said sand/cement mix. About 1/2kg of it should suffice. MM |
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On 07/04/2012 09:32, MM wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:20:39 +1000, F wrote: MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If you are thinking of laying a less than 5mm skin of sand and cement mix over a laid floor it probably wont stick, different stuff is needed. No, the slab (59cm x 29cm) is resting on the actual concrete path outside the back door and is simply there to raise the step slightly. The slab rocks very slightly when I tread on it because there's a 5mm gap in one corner. At present I have whacked a very small wooden wedge under the corner and the slab is now perfectly firm. But the wedge will dislodge over time, which is why I want a more permanent solution with said sand/cement mix. About 1/2kg of it should suffice. MM Gripfill the bugger. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 09:24:21 +0100, MM wrote:
On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 10:23:58 -0700 (PDT), JohnW wrote: On Friday, 6 April 2012 18:12:07 UTC+1, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 16:00:34 +0100, Roger Mills wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM Most of the sheds sell small bags of mortar mix - to which you just need to add water. They appear to be around 25kg, which is about 24½kg more than I need. MM If you really don't want to throw much away, you can spend £2 more than the £3.48 5Kg bag on a 1.25Kg bag of pointing repair mix at B&Q. John I am NOT going to buy more than I need, then throw the rest away! So _there_! (fx) Stamps foot /fx :-) -- Frank Erskine |
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"MM" wrote in message
... On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:51:21 +0100, "BartC" wrote: Try a smaller shop. I saw bags today of 5Kg and 10Kg. And you probably need more than you think. I don't need more than I think. I've done this sort of thing several times over the years. In that case, the 5Kg you'd bought several years back would have got good use! This time it's a slab I bought to raise the step out of the back door a tad. The slab is 59cm x 29cm and is proud by 5mm in one corner that needs to be packed out with a VERY small amount of sand/cement mix. If it's 'proud', then shouldn't you be taking away material, not adding it? In any case I would just have used a handful of earth, or sand if there's any about. -- Bartc |
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BartC wrote:
"MM" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:51:21 +0100, "BartC" wrote: Try a smaller shop. I saw bags today of 5Kg and 10Kg. And you probably need more than you think. I don't need more than I think. I've done this sort of thing several times over the years. In that case, the 5Kg you'd bought several years back would have got good use! This time it's a slab I bought to raise the step out of the back door a tad. The slab is 59cm x 29cm and is proud by 5mm in one corner that needs to be packed out with a VERY small amount of sand/cement mix. If it's 'proud', then shouldn't you be taking away material, not adding it? In any case I would just have used a handful of earth, or sand if there's any about. Steal the sand from a neighbour's kids sandpit:-) -- Adam |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:10:26 +0100, "Jim K" wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:10:47 +0100, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:34:30 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM you have no idea really? 1/2 a kilo will make about a fistful of mortar - IOW enough to do bugger all with- whatever's changed under your paving slab, one fistful of mortar is going to make F all difference.. spend the 3.50 FFS Jim K One fistful is all I need, seriously. The gap is only 5mm, if that. I knew you would make good use of the KY jelly you found. -- Adam |
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On 06/04/2012 22:10, Jim K wrote:
On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:10:47 +0100, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:34:30 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM you have no idea really? 1/2 a kilo will make about a fistful of mortar - IOW enough to do bugger all with- whatever's changed under your paving slab, one fistful of mortar is going to make F all difference.. spend the 3.50 FFS Jim K I'm tempted to post him a handful.... -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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In message , The Medway Handyman
writes On 06/04/2012 22:10, Jim K wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 18:10:47 +0100, MM wrote: On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 15:34:30 +0100, The Medway Handyman wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM you have no idea really? 1/2 a kilo will make about a fistful of mortar - IOW enough to do bugger all with- whatever's changed under your paving slab, one fistful of mortar is going to make F all difference.. spend the 3.50 FFS Jim K I'm tempted to post him a handful.... Does MM subscribe to Fenland Freegle? There's someone, also in Spalding, trying to give away 20 tons of sand at the moment - you could ask him for a cupful. He says he's prepared to load it. -- Nick (=----) |
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On 07/04/2012 09:32, MM wrote:
On Sat, 07 Apr 2012 17:20:39 +1000, F wrote: MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM If you are thinking of laying a less than 5mm skin of sand and cement mix over a laid floor it probably wont stick, different stuff is needed. No, the slab (59cm x 29cm) is resting on the actual concrete path outside the back door and is simply there to raise the step slightly. The slab rocks very slightly when I tread on it because there's a 5mm gap in one corner. At present I have whacked a very small wooden wedge under the corner and the slab is now perfectly firm. But the wedge will dislodge over time, which is why I want a more permanent solution with said sand/cement mix. About 1/2kg of it should suffice. MM But nobody sells 1/2 kg, so buy the 5kg size and keep the rest in the dry somewhere for the next time you need 1/2 kg. It won't go bad |
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:33:03 +0100, "BartC" wrote:
"MM" wrote in message .. . On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:51:21 +0100, "BartC" wrote: Try a smaller shop. I saw bags today of 5Kg and 10Kg. And you probably need more than you think. I don't need more than I think. I've done this sort of thing several times over the years. In that case, the 5Kg you'd bought several years back would have got good use! I didn't buy 5kg, but only enough for the job in hand. This time it's a slab I bought to raise the step out of the back door a tad. The slab is 59cm x 29cm and is proud by 5mm in one corner that needs to be packed out with a VERY small amount of sand/cement mix. If it's 'proud', then shouldn't you be taking away material, not adding it? In any case I would just have used a handful of earth, or sand if there's any about. Well, yes, but that's a little bit Heath Robinson, isn't it? Plain sand or earth will wash out over time. MM |
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:45:57 +0100, "ARWadsworth"
wrote: BartC wrote: "MM" wrote in message ... On Fri, 6 Apr 2012 19:51:21 +0100, "BartC" wrote: Try a smaller shop. I saw bags today of 5Kg and 10Kg. And you probably need more than you think. I don't need more than I think. I've done this sort of thing several times over the years. In that case, the 5Kg you'd bought several years back would have got good use! This time it's a slab I bought to raise the step out of the back door a tad. The slab is 59cm x 29cm and is proud by 5mm in one corner that needs to be packed out with a VERY small amount of sand/cement mix. If it's 'proud', then shouldn't you be taking away material, not adding it? In any case I would just have used a handful of earth, or sand if there's any about. Steal the sand from a neighbour's kids sandpit:-) And the cement, clever clogs? MM |
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On Fri, 06 Apr 2012 22:10:26 +0100, "Jim K"
wrote: On 06/04/2012 14:53, MM wrote: Where can I obtain a very small quantity of sand and cement, just enough to level a single patio slab, which is about 5mm proud in one corner? MM B&Q. £3:48 for a 5 kilo ready mixed bag. I need only about 1/2 kilo. About as much as a small bag of sugar. MM you have no idea really? 1/2 a kilo will make about a fistful of mortar - IOW enough to do bugger all with- whatever's changed under your paving slab, one fistful of mortar is going to make F all difference.. spend the 3.50 FFS Jim K Someone that tight must have Scottish blood, use some porridge from the kitchen cupboard instead. Made with milk it sets fairly hard. G.Harman |
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"MM" wrote in message
... On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 16:33:03 +0100, "BartC" wrote: If it's 'proud', then shouldn't you be taking away material, not adding it? In any case I would just have used a handful of earth, or sand if there's any about. Well, yes, but that's a little bit Heath Robinson, isn't it? Plain sand or earth will wash out over time. Perhaps exterior filler then. But it's more expensive, weight-for-weight, than mortar. (BTW the paving bricks on my drive seem to be bedded in sand. The sand is still there.) -- Bartc |
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On Sat, 7 Apr 2012 20:14:48 +0100, "BartC" wrote:
(BTW the paving bricks on my drive seem to be bedded in sand. The sand is still there.) That's because the paving is *interlocking* ! Try putting just one paving brick on a bed of sand and see how long it lasts. MM |
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BartC wrote (BTW the paving bricks on my drive seem to be bedded in sand. The sand is still there.) That's because the paving is *interlocking* ! Nope, mine arent. Try putting just one paving brick on a bed of sand and see how long it lasts. Mine have lasted fine for 40 years and I didnt even bother with sand, just used dirt. And I walk across it at least once every day too. |
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On Sun, 8 Apr 2012 21:13:16 +1000, "Rod Speed"
wrote: MM wrote BartC wrote (BTW the paving bricks on my drive seem to be bedded in sand. The sand is still there.) That's because the paving is *interlocking* ! Nope, mine arent. Try putting just one paving brick on a bed of sand and see how long it lasts. Mine have lasted fine for 40 years and I didnt even bother with sand, just used dirt. And I walk across it at least once every day too. But if it's paving the bricks butt up against each other allowing no movement and therefore it's fine for that type of application. MM |
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On Sun, 08 Apr 2012 12:07:01 +0100, MM wrote:
Try putting just one paving brick on a bed of sand and see how long it lasts. I thought the Pharaohs did pretty well with that. |
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"FMurtz" wrote in message ... wrote: Very small quantity of sand Pinch it from the beach. I was going to suggest the local kid's playground tim |
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