On 02/12/2011 08:51, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:40, Steve Walker wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Lobster wrote:
On 29/11/2011 17:29, Robin wrote:
Any ideas very much appreciated.

Wot others have said (plus Ocado whcih I don't thijnk has been
menmtioned). You can check online if they cover your mother's
postcode.

I can vouch that it works. Eg we once did an order for MiL from
Australia after Skypeing her to establish what was needed.

Yeah, I know someone who routinely does his Mum's weekly shopping for
her that way: she has a phone but no computer, he has both and lives
in California. It's a weird world!


Actually, its thios bit of te world that fills me with something less
than the usual despair I encounter when 'going shopping' or 'watching
politicians on TV' or reading the Murdochian press.

This sort of thing actually is one of the 'green shoots' of recovery..a
way to use what's cheap to make life better and develop business models
that work in the 21st century.

The current 'crossover' mode of the supermarkets exactly suits today's
conditions,. Drive by shopping if you are near, or online if not.

Contrast the sheds falling like dominoes in the retail parks..




David

Yes, some sort of crossover is the way forward. I certainly tend to look
online for things, decide pretty well what I want and then nip into a
shed for a physical lookover. If the price is right (often by buying
online for collection from the shed) I'll buy from the shed, else I'll
order online and put up with the hassles of home delivery.


That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no one
at home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie trying
to deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house he tried
he got no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80& failure rate.


I guess that's why Argos were delivering "next day" parcels at 10
o'clock last night.Jolly Russian driver doing a good Father Xmas
impression.

On 01/12/11 22:11, polygonum wrote:

And the milk of asses is supposed to be the closest to human milk and the
best substitute. See Donkey Boy by Henry Williamson.


Ass Milk?

Hmmm!

On 02/12/11 08:51, The Medway Handyman wrote:


That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no one at
home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie trying to
deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house he tried he got
no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80& failure rate.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ht-online.html

http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/gener...very-drop-offs

On 2 Dec 2011 17:30:11 GMT, Huge wrote:


I lived in Malta as a child (some 45 years ago) and you couldn't get
fresh cow's milk there, then. As a result, I acquired a taste for
sterilised and condensed milk which I've never quite lost.

Condensed is OK (at least in the sweetened form in cans) along with
evaporated, the former used like single cream on tinned fruit.

--
Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:51:33 -0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote:



That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no one
at home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie trying
to deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house he tried
he got no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80& failure rate.


I think that is the ONLY advantage of having a partner who is too ill to
go out.

--
Rod

Dave Plowman (News) wrote:

Being single, my milk use is pretty consistent when I'm at home. Only used
for tea and coffee. And I rarely get a week out of supermarket bought milk
before it goes off.

Being single and nowadays somewhere between housebound & bedbound a lot of
the time, my approach to shopping etc has had to change. I can tell you
that semi-skimmed milk can be frozen ok; it will thaw ok up to an age of
about two-three months, but after that I find it stays separated (and
horrible). So I always have a few 1pt cartons in the freezer.

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Bert Coules wrote:

Although I've never tested this myself, as far as I know the major
supermarkets - Waitrose, Asda, Tesco, Sainsbury's - have no minimum
requirement for a home delivery.

Asda's minimum order value is £25.

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On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:09:40 -0500, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 12/1/2011 7:57 AM, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:58:16 +0000, funkyoldcortina wrote:

Tesco regular Semi Skimmed Milk 2.272ltr (4 pints) is £1.18 - 52p/litre.

And more than double the price the diary farmer gets. OK there needs
to be some markup to cover transport and processing but...

Not just transport and processing.
Real estate costs (land, buildings).
Heating and lighting of the premises.
Shop fittings.
Staff salaries/wages.

Tesco only make 5% profit before tax on turnover, which is nearly
impossible to reconcile when you look at how much they pay producers
in the UK.


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In article ,
The Other Mike wrote:
Tesco only make 5% profit before tax on turnover, which is nearly
impossible to reconcile when you look at how much they pay producers
in the UK.


Go to one of their small high street garage stores. They are awash with
staff - even although there are few on the tills. Now compare to a
privately owned garage with shop. Only a couple of people.

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*I used to have an open mind but my brains kept falling out *

Dave Plowman London SW
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On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 12:57:14 +0000, Tim Streater
wrote:



I buy the 1% stuff anyway, if I can.

When the health industry started promoting the goodness of low-fat
milk, the dairy industry rubbed their hands with glee, as they had
millions of litres of the stuff. I don't believe in co-incidences like
that.



I was using the 1% stuff in the US, 25 years ago. Removing
three-quarters of the fat from milk (of which I drink a lot, one way and
another) means I have a good excuse to cajole SWMBO into providing a
fry-up from time to time.

Trouble is, Tesco have stopped doing it, Waitrose only do it in 2pt
bottles, and Sainsbury & Morrison's appear to stock it intermittently
only.
Main reason why I started to have Milk from a Milk and More Milkman as
they will deliver it. Pay more than supermarket prices but then I
don't have to use fuel to do an 8 mile round trip just for some milk .
The ability to order on line the night before means I can just get it
when required rather leave notes like in the old days,pay by Direct
debit so no cash to be left out either.
Only seen the chap once in 6 months when I was up quite late waiting
to shoot a rat and he came extra early at 2.30am.
We surprised each other.
G.Harman

wrote:


Only seen the chap once in 6 months when I was up quite late waiting
to shoot a rat and he came extra early at 2.30am.
We surprised each other.

I bet you did!

I'm picturing you live in the middle of nowhere.

Milkman comes round in desolate location, meets bloke stalking out in the
middle of the night with a shotgun and has a Tony Martin moment!

--
Tim Watts

On 02/12/2011 08:51, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:40, Steve Walker wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Lobster wrote:
On 29/11/2011 17:29, Robin wrote:
Any ideas very much appreciated.

Wot others have said (plus Ocado whcih I don't thijnk has been
menmtioned). You can check online if they cover your mother's
postcode.

I can vouch that it works. Eg we once did an order for MiL from
Australia after Skypeing her to establish what was needed.

Yeah, I know someone who routinely does his Mum's weekly shopping for
her that way: she has a phone but no computer, he has both and lives
in California. It's a weird world!


Actually, its thios bit of te world that fills me with something less
than the usual despair I encounter when 'going shopping' or 'watching
politicians on TV' or reading the Murdochian press.

This sort of thing actually is one of the 'green shoots' of recovery..a
way to use what's cheap to make life better and develop business models
that work in the 21st century.

The current 'crossover' mode of the supermarkets exactly suits today's
conditions,. Drive by shopping if you are near, or online if not.

Contrast the sheds falling like dominoes in the retail parks..




David

Yes, some sort of crossover is the way forward. I certainly tend to look
online for things, decide pretty well what I want and then nip into a
shed for a physical lookover. If the price is right (often by buying
online for collection from the shed) I'll buy from the shed, else I'll
order online and put up with the hassles of home delivery.


That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no one
at home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie trying
to deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house he tried
he got no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80& failure rate.

The bit that winds me up is that they then take the packages back to the
local office and wait for me to collect them the next day - except that
they open at 07:00 by which time I'm at work or well on my way there and
close at 12:30, when some people might have a chance of getting there at
lunchtime - yet the main post-office next door is open 'til 17:30, but
has no access to the collections office!!!

The only sensible solution to deliveries would be to allow people to
choose whether to have a delivery (set time band on set day); agreement
to deliver to a neighbour; or collection from an area warehouse capable
of handling everything from CDs up to chest-freezers.

SteveW

On 02/12/2011 19:51, polygonum wrote:
On Fri, 02 Dec 2011 08:51:33 -0000, The Medway Handyman
wrote:



That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no
one at home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie
trying to deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house
he tried he got no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80&
failure rate.


I think that is the ONLY advantage of having a partner who is too ill to
go out.

No. Been there when my wife was ill for a long period and had more than
one occassion where the postie has been off ill and the replacement
couldn't be bothered bringing packages out, so had pre-written "tried to
deliver" cards and pushed them through the door without knocking or ringing.

SteveW

On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:20:03 +0000, The Other Mike wrote:

Tesco only make 5% profit before tax on turnover,

That's what the books say. Tesco will have good accountants. Good
accountants shuffle things about and play the rules to minimise any
tax liabilty.

--
Cheers
Dave.

The Other Mike wrote:

On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 09:09:40 -0500, S Viemeister
wrote:

On 12/1/2011 7:57 AM, Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Thu, 01 Dec 2011 11:58:16 +0000, funkyoldcortina wrote:

Tesco regular Semi Skimmed Milk 2.272ltr (4 pints) is £1.18 -
52p/litre.

And more than double the price the diary farmer gets. OK there needs
to be some markup to cover transport and processing but...

Not just transport and processing.
Real estate costs (land, buildings).
Heating and lighting of the premises.
Shop fittings.
Staff salaries/wages.

Tesco only make 5% profit before tax on turnover, which is nearly
impossible to reconcile when you look at how much they pay producers
in the UK.


ITYM
Tesco only pay tax on the 5% profit that the IR can find them liable for.

-

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Sat, 03 Dec 2011 09:20:03 +0000, The Other Mike wrote:

Tesco only make 5% profit before tax on turnover,

That's what the books say. Tesco will have good accountants. Good
accountants shuffle things about and play the rules to minimise any
tax liabilty.

Profit in the P&L accounts and profit for tax purposes are different
things. Tesco and other companies very rarely seek to understate profit
in the P&L accounts: investors don't like low profits so the share price
falls; and top managers' bonuses tend to depend on the profits and/or
share price.
--
Robin
reply to address is (meant to be) valid

On 03/12/2011 22:34, Steve Walker wrote:
On 02/12/2011 08:51, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:40, Steve Walker wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:04, The Natural Philosopher wrote:
Lobster wrote:
On 29/11/2011 17:29, Robin wrote:
Any ideas very much appreciated.

Wot others have said (plus Ocado whcih I don't thijnk has been
menmtioned). You can check online if they cover your mother's
postcode.

I can vouch that it works. Eg we once did an order for MiL from
Australia after Skypeing her to establish what was needed.

Yeah, I know someone who routinely does his Mum's weekly shopping for
her that way: she has a phone but no computer, he has both and lives
in California. It's a weird world!


Actually, its thios bit of te world that fills me with something less
than the usual despair I encounter when 'going shopping' or 'watching
politicians on TV' or reading the Murdochian press.

This sort of thing actually is one of the 'green shoots' of recovery..a
way to use what's cheap to make life better and develop business models
that work in the 21st century.

The current 'crossover' mode of the supermarkets exactly suits today's
conditions,. Drive by shopping if you are near, or online if not.

Contrast the sheds falling like dominoes in the retail parks..




David

Yes, some sort of crossover is the way forward. I certainly tend to look
online for things, decide pretty well what I want and then nip into a
shed for a physical lookover. If the price is right (often by buying
online for collection from the shed) I'll buy from the shed, else I'll
order online and put up with the hassles of home delivery.


That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no one
at home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie trying
to deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house he tried
he got no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80& failure rate.

The bit that winds me up is that they then take the packages back to the
local office and wait for me to collect them the next day - except that
they open at 07:00 by which time I'm at work or well on my way there and
close at 12:30, when some people might have a chance of getting there at
lunchtime - yet the main post-office next door is open 'til 17:30, but
has no access to the collections office!!!

The only sensible solution to deliveries would be to allow people to
choose whether to have a delivery (set time band on set day); agreement
to deliver to a neighbour; or collection from an area warehouse capable
of handling everything from CDs up to chest-freezers.

SteveW
We've had stuff dropped off for collection at the sub PO in the village
with a note through the door. Very convenient.

Pete

Pete Shew wrote:

We've had stuff dropped off for collection at the sub PO in the village
with a note through the door. Very convenient.

THey used to do that here, now they take it back to the sorting office,
they have at least extended their opening hours, so if you arrive home
to see the non-delivery card you have got time to go and collect it the
same evening, despite the card saying you're supposed to wait at least
24 hours before collection.

On 02/12/2011 11:23, Nightjar wrote:
On 02/12/2011 08:51, The Medway Handyman wrote:
On 29/11/2011 19:40, Steve Walker wrote:
...
Yes, some sort of crossover is the way forward. I certainly tend to look
online for things, decide pretty well what I want and then nip into a
shed for a physical lookover. If the price is right (often by buying
online for collection from the shed) I'll buy from the shed, else I'll
order online and put up with the hassles of home delivery.


That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no one
at home for delivery.

There are several secure delivery boxes on the market to cope with that
problem. For example:

http://www.asgardsss.co.uk/sub-site7.php

Colin Bignell

But they won't sign for a parcel.

--
Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk

On 02/12/2011 14:01, funkyoldcortina wrote:
On 02/12/11 08:51, The Medway Handyman wrote:


That's the bit that nobody seems to have solved. Buy online, but no
one at
home for delivery.

I was working outside a house a few weeks ago & watched a postie
trying to
deliver small packages without much luck. Almost every house he tried
he got
no reply & had to leave a card. He reckoned an 80& failure rate.



http://www.dailymail.co.uk/sciencete...ht-online.html


http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/gener...very-drop-offs

What a good idea.


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