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Hi all,
I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg (Forgive the quality, it was a quick walk-by capture with my phone as I didn't want to arouse suspicion by taking pictures of somebody's house!) Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! It wasn't all that clear how it was erected, I am assuming you peg up the platform at ground level and then slide the whole lot up? What with though? Mathew |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 10:57:32 -0700, Mathew Newton wrote:
Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg Yikes. Looks like it focuses a lot of the weight onto two points pressing against the side wall of the house... it's not so bad for a regular ladder and one person, but that looks like a lot more material and a two-person cradle... It wasn't all that clear how it was erected Lots of well-built mates and a good run-up? :-) |
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![]() "Mathew Newton" wrote in message ... Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg (Forgive the quality, it was a quick walk-by capture with my phone as I didn't want to arouse suspicion by taking pictures of somebody's house!) Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! I've seen them used by the company that maintains H.Assoc houses in my area. Not cheap and you have to proide your own sturdy ladders. http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/ladder_accsr_ldrscaf.htm mark |
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![]() "Mathew Newton" wrote in message ... Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg (Forgive the quality, it was a quick walk-by capture with my phone as I didn't want to arouse suspicion by taking pictures of somebody's house!) Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! It wasn't all that clear how it was erected, I am assuming you peg up the platform at ground level and then slide the whole lot up? What with though? Doesn't look like an alternative to a tower to me. If you erected a scafolding tower you would find yourself looking at the roof from a fair distance due to the extended bay on the ground floor. An alternative to a full scaffolding install, perhaps. Doesn't look quick or cheap ;-) |
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On Oct 19, 6:57*pm, Mathew Newton wrote:
Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg (Forgive the quality, it was a quick walk-by capture with my phone as I didn't want to arouse suspicion by taking pictures of somebody's house!) Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! It wasn't all that clear how it was erected, I am assuming you peg up the platform at ground level and then slide the whole lot up? What with though? Mathew The trouble with support on 2 legs is that if one joint or leg fails, the lot crashes down. With a 4 legged structure it won't do well on 3 legs, but it should stay up long enough to get down (the non-fast way). NT |
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Mathew Newton wrote:
Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg (Forgive the quality, it was a quick walk-by capture with my phone as I didn't want to arouse suspicion by taking pictures of somebody's house!) Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! It wasn't all that clear how it was erected, I am assuming you peg up the platform at ground level and then slide the whole lot up? What with though? Mathew That is just a modern day version of "ladder brackets" see;http://preview.tinyurl.com/yguqmn2 and scroll down. As a matter of interest, the original ladder bracket carried just a couple of scaffold planks with no safety rail - and were in common use until the health and safety brigade became concerned about the number of accidents when using things. Hence the modern equivalent, complete with a deck and guards. Cash |
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On Oct 19, 7:27 pm, "mark" wrote:
http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/ladder_accsr_ldrscaf.htm My word. I tell you something - you'd never get me on one of those things! That said, when I go up a ladder I barely have any hands free to do any work what with me wanting to hold on so much! I can't help feel there's some subliminal connection in their URL... ;-) Mathew |
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Mathew Newton wrote: Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg (Forgive the quality, it was a quick walk-by capture with my phone as I didn't want to arouse suspicion by taking pictures of somebody's house!) Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! It wasn't all that clear how it was erected, I am assuming you peg up the platform at ground level and then slide the whole lot up? What with though? Mathew That is just a modern day version of "ladder brackets" see;http://preview.tinyurl.com/yguqmn2 and scroll down. the people that used them with just a scaffold*board and two ordinary ladders i.e me. called them suicide brackets. \0 |
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![]() "Mathew Newton" wrote in message ... Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg I would NOT use that, it would not pass any form of Health & Safety inspection in the UK. |
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Mathew Newton wrote:
I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! This sort of thing seems to be popular with the replacement fascia chaps. However, in my area, I have yet to see anybody bothering to fit the safety rails! Chris -- Chris J Dixon Nottingham UK Have dancing shoes, will ceilidh. |
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Roger wrote:
"Mathew Newton" wrote in message ... Hi all, I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg I would NOT use that, it would not pass any form of Health & Safety inspection in the UK. Roger, I personally wouldn't use such a scaffold [1], but it will comply with H&S Regulations - as long as it is erected in accordance to instructions/best practice procedures, on level ground (or properly supported on falling ground) and is tied either at the top or bottom (or both) to prevent slippage, all guards and braces in place and is only loaded to its maximum *SAFE* weight. Generally, this sort of thing is only used for access to fascias and soffits, and would only be carrying the weight of two men, some tools and the odd length of timber or gutter at the most. [1] Remember though that if this job is done by a contracting firm, it will actually be unlawful under the H&S Regulations to simply use ladders to work most jobs at that height - so this is a cheaper method than erecting a full scaffold to say, clean out gutters, replace the odd tile or two, painting fascia and soffits etc. Cash |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember Mathew Newton saying something like: I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg Looks as dodgy as a lorry full of spivs. Nothing tying it to the building, either. |
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On Oct 19, 11:02*pm, Chris J Dixon wrote:
Mathew Newton wrote: I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg Are these commonplace? I thought it seemed like a quick alternative to scaffolding towers. That said, it didn't look like the sturdiest of things and indeed I was expecting to find something substantial at the bottom but it was just similar to the top but without the platform! This sort of thing seems to be popular with the replacement fascia chaps. Bingo! Having seen two in use, looked perfectly safe to me. Safety lies in the hands of the user IMHO. MBQ |
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On Mon, 19 Oct 2009 13:44:01 -0700 (PDT), Mathew Newton wrote:
On Oct 19, 7:27 pm, "mark" wrote: http://www.ladders-999.co.uk/ladder_accsr_ldrscaf.htm My word. I tell you something - you'd never get me on one of those things! That said, when I go up a ladder I barely have any hands free to do any work what with me wanting to hold on so much! I can't help feel there's some subliminal connection in their URL... ;-) Mathew The roofer that did my GF's house had the ladders at about 45 deg. (lean-to consevatory in the way) and were going up fast, with tiles, either 1- or no-handed! -- Peter. The head of a pin will hold more angels if it's been flattened with an angel-grinder. |
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Grimly Curmudgeon wrote:
We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember Mathew Newton saying something like: I wandered past this today: http://www.newtonnet.co.uk/permanent/scaffold.jpg Looks as dodgy as a lorry full of spivs. Nothing tying it to the building, either. Saw it being used by Anglian Windows to do guttering the other day. I imagine they comply with all the regs |
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Hi All,
The equipment in the origonal photo is one of our 'Easi-Dec roofline systems' . It is dcesigned to provide roof access or wall access against two story domestic buildings. It was designed over 20 years ago for the use of Facia, gutter and soffit repair/maintenance. In that time we have never had one of our systems fail/fall down. We do have contracts with several housing associations and window companies ( i believe one of them was mentioned earlier in the thread ) However, words are cheap, we offer open days at any of our four locations around the country so please feel free to contact us and arrange a demonstration of the system. If you hire scaffolding regularly then our system WILL save you money. If you have any further questions about the system please visit our website - Home •*Easi Dec and call us with any questions at all ! Cheers ! Brett |
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replying to Mathew Newton, Clamboy wrote:
It's called a shore scaffold. Not OSHA approved in the least bit. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...ld-590582-.htm |
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On Thursday, 17 October 2019 01:44:08 UTC+1, Clamboy wrote:
replying to Mathew Newton, Clamboy wrote: It's called a shore scaffold. Not OSHA approved in the least bit. -- for full context, visit https://www.homeownershub.com/uk-diy...ld-590582-.htm For fuller context, buy a TARDIS and go back 10 years. |
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