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I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a
straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob |
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What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper -- JGH |
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"robgraham" wrote in message ... I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Rob. I would use AutoCAD. But then I have a copy, and have used it most days for the last 15 or 20 years. Baz |
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"robgraham" wrote in message ... I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Rob. I would use AutoCAD. But then I have a copy, and have used it most days for the last 15 or 20 years. Baz Likewise but instead of autocad I use M$ Visio Maybe some of the free PCB Cad programmes have a schematic capture capability but the OP will have to create most of the electrical (rather than electronic) symbols |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:40 -0700, jgharston wrote:
robgraham wrote: What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper .... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) |
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, robgraham wrote: I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? I don't know of one. And most of the CAD packages will take so long to learn it's unlikely to be worth it. I use Draw on my Acorn with my own library of symbols. And for electronic diagrams too. Rob -- *Am I ambivalent? Well, yes and no. Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:40 -0700, jgharston wrote: robgraham wrote: What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper ... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) I gave up circuit design after watching an old HP plotter draw in ten minutes a circuit diagram that would have taken me week to draw in pen and ink. I 'got into' computers then and never looked back too hard. CAD leaning curves are steep, but the reults are worth it. Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. 3D Rhino seems to suit me, though others swear by solidworks. |
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In uk.d-i-y, robgraham wrote:
I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? I guess you've not done this kind of thing before so it would be a good idea to rough the circuit out on paper before starting to grapple with the PC software. Presumably being "just" a garage it's not too fiendishly complicated. Having got that far you might decide that the PC would be a bit of a waste of time, unless you find that kind of thing educational or enjoyable. -- Mike Barnes |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT), robgraham wrote:
I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Did this for my last GF about 9yo (so nothing complex on her PC) and just used Word - surprisingly easy. Left it on her PC, have a copy on mine and also stuck a copy on the access to the CU and by the CU. -- Peter. The head of a pin will hold more angels if it's been flattened with an angel-grinder. |
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"PeterC" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT), robgraham wrote: I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Did this for my last GF about 9yo (so nothing complex on her PC) and just used Word - surprisingly easy. Left it on her PC, have a copy on mine and also stuck a copy on the access to the CU and by the CU. -- 9yrs old? Quite young for a GF. |
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... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) So draw a table in your word processor, or turn on borders in your spreadsheet. Then print it, with nothing in the cells. Instant graph paper! Andy |
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On Oct 15, 5:59*pm, Jules
wrote: On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:40 -0700, jgharston wrote: robgraham wrote: What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper ... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) http://www.incompetech.com/graphpaper/ HTH J^n |
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On 15 Oct, 15:39, robgraham wrote:
I've wired up a friend's garage *and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob I have used the free program ExpressPCB for drawing electronic schematics. It's got the electronic / electrical sysmbols built in. Pete |
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"robgraham" wrote in message ... I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Might be worth looking he http://www.drawingcoach.com/free-drawing-software.html mark |
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"Jules" wrote in message news On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:40 -0700, jgharston wrote: robgraham wrote: What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper ... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) I'll fax you some if you like. I have 100 sheets here. How many do you want? Bill |
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"robgraham" wrote in message ... I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob I'd suggest you get a copy of CorelDraw 4, which is almost free and well up to the job. I don't know if it runs on Vista though, never tried it. It comes with a good library of electronic and electrical symbols, and there are also some instantly accessible symbols in a pull-out tab. The best bet is to draw the thing on paper first. Bill |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:32:01 +0100, Andy Champ
wrote: Jules wrote: ... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) So draw a table in your word processor, or turn on borders in your spreadsheet. Then print it, with nothing in the cells. Instant graph paper! There's a freeware app called Gpaper.exe. Log, Lin, Sq Root, Quadratic, Probability, Allsorts, every which way but loose in fact :-) It worked fine last time I tried it several years / revisions ago. It's here : http://www.freewareweb.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?download=1&ID=316 Derek |
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The Natural Philosopher wrote: Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. Didn't know it was still around. Was a reasonable alternative to Acorn Draw many years ago. I'll have a look for it. -- *7up is good for you, signed snow white* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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Dave Plowman (News) wrote:
In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. Didn't know it was still around. Was a reasonable alternative to Acorn Draw many years ago. I'll have a look for it. Gosh, its up to version 14 now...Corel X4.. 14 is a bit bloated. 12 is very good, and I have a version 8 somewhere that is very usable as well. If only it worked on Linux... |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. Didn't know it was still around. Was a reasonable alternative to Acorn Draw many years ago. I'll have a look for it. Oh my goodness, CorelDraw is fantastic. It takes a bit of learning to get the best out of it, but it's full of tricks and shortcuts that make the job easier. I've been using it since v2. Version 4 was good, 5, 6, and 7 were bad, 8 was good but had some annoyances, I have no real experience of 9-11 having never loaded them on my own machines, 12 is the one I use now and it's brilliant, definitely the best ever. I haven't used or seen later versions. What puts people off CorelDraw is that is isn't very intuitive. You have to put a bit of effort in. Just for a laugh, I must tell you this. In the days of Win 3.0 I had CorelDraw loaded but the only text programme was the crappy thing that came with Windows. Since I had been forced by work to learn Corel I took to doing all my text documents on it! It was really hopelessly bad for this, but it was the best I had. I still have some mag article originals that I wrote in CorelDraw. And yer tell that to the young people of today and they don't believe you . . . Bill |
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Bill Wright wrote:
"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. Didn't know it was still around. Was a reasonable alternative to Acorn Draw many years ago. I'll have a look for it. Oh my goodness, CorelDraw is fantastic. It takes a bit of learning to get the best out of it, but it's full of tricks and shortcuts that make the job easier. I've been using it since v2. Version 4 was good, 5, 6, and 7 were bad, 8 was good but had some annoyances, I have no real experience of 9-11 having never loaded them on my own machines, 12 is the one I use now and it's brilliant, definitely the best ever. I haven't used or seen later versions. What puts people off CorelDraw is that is isn't very intuitive. You have to put a bit of effort in. Gosh., Its a lot more intuitive than autocad.. Just for a laugh, I must tell you this. In the days of Win 3.0 I had CorelDraw loaded but the only text programme was the crappy thing that came with Windows. Since I had been forced by work to learn Corel I took to doing all my text documents on it! It was really hopelessly bad for this, but it was the best I had. I still have some mag article originals that I wrote in CorelDraw. And yer tell that to the young people of today and they don't believe you . . . Bill |
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Bill Wright wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. Didn't know it was still around. Was a reasonable alternative to Acorn Draw many years ago. I'll have a look for it. Oh my goodness, CorelDraw is fantastic. It takes a bit of learning to get the best out of it, but it's full of tricks and shortcuts that make the job easier. I've been using it since v2. Version 4 was good, 5, 6, and 7 were bad, 8 was good but had some annoyances, I have no real experience of 9-11 having never loaded them on my own machines, 12 is the one I use now and it's brilliant, definitely the best ever. I haven't used or seen later versions. What puts people off CorelDraw is that is isn't very intuitive. You have to put a bit of effort in. The beauty of Acorn Draw is it was written for kids. And even the first version is pretty powerful. Many later ones with different gizmos - but still basically the same. Oh - Coral Draw costs the thick end of 400 quid. Just for a laugh, I must tell you this. In the days of Win 3.0 I had CorelDraw loaded but the only text programme was the crappy thing that came with Windows. Since I had been forced by work to learn Corel I took to doing all my text documents on it! It was really hopelessly bad for this, but it was the best I had. I still have some mag article originals that I wrote in CorelDraw. And yer tell that to the young people of today and they don't believe you . . . Heh heh - reminds me of making up some logos using a very basic DTP package. Nothing like improvising. Bill -- *Why do the two "sanction"s (noun and verb) mean opposites?* Dave Plowman London SW To e-mail, change noise into sound. |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 17:19:37 +0100, Baz wrote:
"robgraham" wrote in message news:fbc599cc-d59a-4b80-9b89- ... I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Rob. I would use AutoCAD. But then I have a copy, and have used it most days for the last 15 or 20 years. DoubleCad XT (free version!) looks and works very similar to AutoCAD LT. I like the "free" bit too... :-) -- Mick (Working in a M$-free zone!) Web: http://www.nascom.info Filtering everything posted from googlegroups to kill spam. |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:39:14 -0700, robgraham wrote:
I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Possibly OpenOffice with schematic symbols? http://faculty.evansville.edu/ar63/p...ate_usage.html |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 20:31:11 +0100, mark wrote:
"PeterC" wrote in message ... On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:39:14 -0700 (PDT), robgraham wrote: I've wired up a friend's garage and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob Did this for my last GF about 9yo (so nothing complex on her PC) and just used Word - surprisingly easy. Left it on her PC, have a copy on mine and also stuck a copy on the access to the CU and by the CU. -- 9yrs old? Quite young for a GF. Even younger 9 years ago :-) -- Peter. The head of a pin will hold more angels if it's been flattened with an angel-grinder. |
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On Oct 15, 8:32*pm, Andy Champ wrote:
Jules wrote: ... then, to satisfy the PC requirement, scan it. I've got a pad of 1/4" squared paper in the cupboard that's really handy for quick diagrams (USians don't seem to do graph paper unfortunately, or at least none of the places I've been into yet stock it) So draw a table in your word processor, or turn on borders in your spreadsheet. Then print it, with nothing in the cells. *Instant graph paper! Andy http://software.techrepublic.com.com...x?docid=765595 I'm fairly sure thats the one, it does every kind of graphpaper plus more I didnt know existed NT |
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On Oct 15, 3:39*pm, robgraham wrote:
I've wired up a friend's garage *and I would like to leave him a straightforward drawing of how it was done so that he has a record for any changes. What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Rob What no-ones mentioned yet is that whatever format its in needs to be usable in 50 years time. Probably almost none of today's data formats will be in use then, or will have been for a couple of decades. The one with the best chance of staying in use is plain text, .txt. And simple circuits in ascii are easy to do. But personally I'd be sure to print a copy too. Perhaps even stick it somewhere permanentishly in the garage. NT |
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"The Natural Philosopher" wrote in message ... Bill Wright wrote: What puts people off CorelDraw is that is isn't very intuitive. You have to put a bit of effort in. Gosh., Its a lot more intuitive than autocad.. Ohh, do you really think so? Bill |
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"Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Bill Wright wrote: Oh - Coral Draw costs the thick end of 400 quid. Does it buggery. You can get Corel 4 for almost nothing, and it's fine. No need to get a later version because by the time 4 came out all the basics were sorted.What came after was mostly luxuries. Heh heh - reminds me of making up some logos using a very basic DTP package. Nothing like improvising. People sometimes send me photographs embedded in a Word doc, because 'I don't know how to send pictures but I know how to put them into a Word document and I know how to send them.' It beats me. If they can send .docs why can't they send .jpgs? This friend I have down south has just bought a new camera and she keeps sending me examples of her photographic brilliance. Trouble is the camera has massive resolution and the pics (which have no artistic or other value and are mostly out of focus and/or have camera shake) are 4.5MB, and she sends five at a time. Most of them are of her bloody cats as well. Bill |
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 13:56:32 +0100, "Dave Plowman (News)"
wrote: In article , Bill Wright wrote: "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , The Natural Philosopher wrote: Corel Draw s the best all round 2D package I have found - mixes maths and pretties very well. Didn't know it was still around. Was a reasonable alternative to Acorn Draw many years ago. I'll have a look for it. Oh my goodness, CorelDraw is fantastic. It takes a bit of learning to get the best out of it, but it's full of tricks and shortcuts that make the job easier. I've been using it since v2. Version 4 was good, 5, 6, and 7 were bad, 8 was good but had some annoyances, I have no real experience of 9-11 having never loaded them on my own machines, 12 is the one I use now and it's brilliant, definitely the best ever. I haven't used or seen later versions. What puts people off CorelDraw is that is isn't very intuitive. You have to put a bit of effort in. The beauty of Acorn Draw is it was written for kids. And even the first version is pretty powerful. Many later ones with different gizmos - but still basically the same. Oh - Coral Draw costs the thick end of 400 quid. I bought an out of date revision for 3 quid at a computor show, registered it, and upgraded it for a song. Derek |
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In uk.d-i-y, Bill Wright wrote:
This friend I have down south has just bought a new camera and she keeps sending me examples of her photographic brilliance. Trouble is the camera has massive resolution and the pics (which have no artistic or other value and are mostly out of focus and/or have camera shake) are 4.5MB, and she sends five at a time. Most of them are of her bloody cats as well. Persuade her to upload them to the web and mail you a link. I think automatic thumbnail creation is a feature of some sites, so you would know what was on the pics, and you could download them (or not) as desired. -- Mike Barnes |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message ... "Dave Plowman (News)" wrote in message ... In article , Bill Wright wrote: Oh - Coral Draw costs the thick end of 400 quid. Does it buggery. You can get Corel 4 for almost nothing, and it's fine. No need to get a later version because by the time 4 came out all the basics were sorted.What came after was mostly luxuries. Heh heh - reminds me of making up some logos using a very basic DTP package. Nothing like improvising. People sometimes send me photographs embedded in a Word doc, because 'I don't know how to send pictures but I know how to put them into a Word document and I know how to send them.' It beats me. If they can send .docs why can't they send .jpgs? This friend I have down south has just bought a new camera and she keeps sending me examples of her photographic brilliance. Trouble is the camera has massive resolution and the pics (which have no artistic or other value and are mostly out of focus and/or have camera shake) are 4.5MB, and she sends five at a time. Most of them are of her bloody cats as well. Introduce her to: http://www.vso-software.fr/products/...ge-resizer.php It's free! mark |
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On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:40 -0700 (PDT), jgharston
had this to say: robgraham wrote: What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper Exactly. In these few days discussing this one could have readily drawn out the 'circuit' with a biro on a bit of copier paper - with or without a ruler! Don't schools teach engineering/technical drawing/sketching these days? It seems a bit(?) overkill to learn a CAD system just to draw out a few subcircuits. In fact, if you label your CUs, sockets, lights etc suitably in a tree formation there should be very little need for extra documentation. It may be appropriate to write a document describing your choice of, say, cable sizes and calculated/measured earth impedances. The actual circuits are probably trivial. -- Frank Erskine |
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On Fri, 16 Oct 2009 20:07:32 +0100, Bill Wright wrote:
People sometimes send me photographs embedded in a Word doc, because 'I don't know how to send pictures but I know how to put them into a Word document and I know how to send them.' It beats me. If they can send .docs why can't they send .jpgs? Times where I've seen that have been where users wanted to either package several images together in one file, or they wanted to resize them - something that MS platforms didn't used to do very well out of the box. ISTR there being a time where MS paint wouldn't even save in JPEG format. Not sure what the modern excuse is, though, unless the bundles OS utilites are still that bad... (I saw it a lot in the corporate world - where employees weren't allowed the install their own software, so they couldn't even put something on there to do the job) This friend I have down south has just bought a new camera and she keeps sending me examples of her photographic brilliance. Trouble is the camera has massive resolution and the pics (which have no artistic or other value and are mostly out of focus and/or have camera shake) are 4.5MB, and she sends five at a time. Most of them are of her bloody cats as well. The one that really ****es me off is when someone sends you an enormous uncompressed bitmap for some crap that may as well been in a different format at a fraction of the size. That or people who send me plain-text information as PDF files, Word documents and the like. And people who top-post in emails. And send them out in HTML format. And animated smilies. etc. etc. :-) |
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"Bill Wright" wrote in message
... People sometimes send me photographs embedded in a Word doc, because 'I don't know how to send pictures but I know how to put them into a Word document and I know how to send them.' It beats me. If they can send .docs why can't they send .jpgs? For screenshots, embedded into a word doc works quite well if you're not competent enough to generate a png. Word compresses them enough to make them not painful, and people can cope with "prt sc, then paste into a new word document" if you want eg a picture of an error screen. |
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"Jules" wrote in message news That or people who send me plain-text information as PDF files, Word documents and the like. And people who top-post in emails. And send them out in HTML format. And animated smilies. etc. etc. :-) So really then, it's everybody. You're like me. Bill |
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In uk.d-i-y, Clive George wrote:
"Bill Wright" wrote in message .. . People sometimes send me photographs embedded in a Word doc, because 'I don't know how to send pictures but I know how to put them into a Word document and I know how to send them.' It beats me. If they can send .docs why can't they send .jpgs? For screenshots, embedded into a word doc works quite well if you're not competent enough to generate a png. Word compresses them enough to make them not painful, and people can cope with "prt sc, then paste into a new word document" if you want eg a picture of an error screen. That must be some version of Word than I've never used. IME Word *expands* images (as if jpg - bmp), and in the most recent version I've used (2002) the tools that are supposed to compress them are well-hidden and non-functional. The other problem, for photos rather than screen shots, is that all the tags (e.g. when taken) are lost. -- Mike Barnes |
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Clive George wrote:
For screenshots, embedded into a word doc works quite well if you're not competent enough to generate a png. Word compresses them enough to make them not painful, and people can cope with "prt sc, then paste into a new word document" if you want eg a picture of an error screen. But doing so to Excel is better. I keep getting sent Word screenshots that are awkward to view - as they are so scaled down to fit within the margins. And this is getting worse as people generally have larger and larger screens. (Is Alt+PrtSc too complicated? Most of the time it is a window they need to report.) The odd person sends an Excel spreadsheet - I can open the application full screen and see a reasonable screenshot straight away. And yes - the bundled picture tools are unbelievably awkward and slow. I'd drop a copy of IrfanView on every PC... -- Rod |
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Drawing a circuit diagram
On Sat, 17 Oct 2009 08:28:38 +0100, Rod wrote:
Clive George wrote: For screenshots, embedded into a word doc works quite well if you're not competent enough to generate a png. Word compresses them enough to make them not painful, and people can cope with "prt sc, then paste into a new word document" if you want eg a picture of an error screen. But doing so to Excel is better. I keep getting sent Word screenshots that are awkward to view - as they are so scaled down to fit within the margins. And this is getting worse as people generally have larger and larger screens. (Is Alt+PrtSc too complicated? Most of the time it is a window they need to report.) The odd person sends an Excel spreadsheet - I can open the application full screen and see a reasonable screenshot straight away. And yes - the bundled picture tools are unbelievably awkward and slow. I'd drop a copy of IrfanView on every PC... I do that on every PC I build or work on. Takes about 20s to turn a 20MB JPG in to 50kB of acceptable quality for a snap of somebody's little cat/brat. -- Peter. The head of a pin will hold more angels if it's been flattened with an angel-grinder. |
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Drawing a circuit diagram
Frank Erskine wrote:
On Thu, 15 Oct 2009 07:42:40 -0700 (PDT), jgharston had this to say: robgraham wrote: What would be the simplest PC package to do this on ? Pen & Paper Exactly. In these few days discussing this one could have readily drawn out the 'circuit' with a biro on a bit of copier paper - with or without a ruler! Yes, but with one *big* disadvantage, you can't correct or change it easily. Don't schools teach engineering/technical drawing/sketching these days? They never did except for people going towards technical careers did they? It seems a bit(?) overkill to learn a CAD system just to draw out a few subcircuits. In fact, if you label your CUs, sockets, lights etc suitably in a tree formation there should be very little need for extra documentation. It may be appropriate to write a document describing your choice of, say, cable sizes and calculated/measured earth impedances. The actual circuits are probably trivial. Probably true for house wiring though I would like to record some of the *routing* of my ring circuits becaus (for 'historical' reasons) some are far from obvious. -- Chris Green |
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