As subject line really. Vistec do a window coating that is the
next-best-thing to true self-cleaning glass, ie, Pilkington Activ - or so
they say.
Any "real life" experiences from the folks here?

TIA

Pete Zahut wrote:
As subject line really. Vistec do a window coating that is the
next-best-thing to true self-cleaning glass, ie, Pilkington Activ -
or so they say.
Any "real life" experiences from the folks here?

TIA

Doh, should have included the link http://www.vistecltd.co.uk/index.html

On Thu, 12 Mar 2009 18:43:56 -0000, Pete Zahut wrote:

Any "real life" experiences from the folks here?

Any different to Rain-X?

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Cheers
Dave.

On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:06:29 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:

The chemical bond between the silane and glass is the reason that the
glass needs to be chemically clean before applying the rain-X.

Which is what made me think this Vistec coating may well be very similar,
the description certainly is. A kit of RainX cleaner and solution is
probably a lot cheaper than this coated glass. You will need some elbow
grease and time though.

I was always suspicious of the claims for RainX until they had the kit in
CostCo for about £8. What the hell I thought I hate smeary windscreens so
bought it and applied. Very impressed, it does wear where the wipers wipe
in a couple of years but the second clean/application is easier than the
first.

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Cheers
Dave.

Dave Liquorice wrote:
On Fri, 13 Mar 2009 02:06:29 +0000, Steve Firth wrote:

The chemical bond between the silane and glass is the reason that the
glass needs to be chemically clean before applying the rain-X.

Which is what made me think this Vistec coating may well be very
similar, the description certainly is. A kit of RainX cleaner and
solution is probably a lot cheaper than this coated glass. You will
need some elbow grease and time though.

I was always suspicious of the claims for RainX until they had the
kit in CostCo for about £8. What the hell I thought I hate smeary
windscreens so bought it and applied. Very impressed, it does wear
where the wipers wipe in a couple of years but the second
clean/application is easier than the first.

Thanks for the replies guys. The only reason I allowed the salesman in was
that they reckon that you can now get a government grant for it. We live in
a "standard" 1960's 3-bed semi-detached dormer (chalet) bungalow and the
window coating would be £2,500GBP without a grant or £1,500GBP with a
grant!!!!!

Needless to say, I didn't take up the offer - £1,500 pays for a lot of
window cleaner man-hours )

My wife and I, had our windows treated a couple of years ago by Vistec. We live on the Fyl=
de coast and suffered terrible problems with the salt and the sand deposits on our win=
dows, particularly when there were high winds or heavy rainfall. A neighbour of ours=
had already had this treatment put on their glass (ClearSheen of Shield I think its ca=
lled) and they always looked gleaming, so we asked him how he got them so clean all the t=
ime, and he gave us a card and brochure from Vistec. They were local so we thought we'd h=
ave a look and see what they could offer, as we really didn=E2=80=99t want to be nosey a=
nd quiz our neighbour on costs.
Their chap came out (Les) and presented the product we were very impressed, he offere=
d us a very good subsidy on the product due to bulk ordering of the chemicals I think he s=
aid, and he asked for an honest recommendation letter once the work was complete. Whi=
ch we did!
To date we are over the moon with it and would certainly recommend them. Quality isn't=
cheap and it was money very well spent, we received a 10yr written guarantee to back up=
the easy-clean claims.
We have had to hose the windows down about 4 or 5 times during dry spells and they have co=
me up like new, and with our typical British weather it's like having our windows clea=
ned every other day. =


Mr. J.Lee. Thornton-Cleveleys, Lancashire.

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On Thu, 4 Jun 2009 00:39:15 +0800 Jon wrote :
My wife and I, had our windows treated a couple of years ago by Vistec.
....
To date we are over the moon with it and would certainly recommend
them. Quality isn't cheap and it was money very well spent, we received
a 10yr written guarantee to back up the easy-clean claims.

Would this be Vistec Ltd. To quote the Companies House website

VISTEC LTD
2ND FLOOR
145-157 ST.JOHN STREET
LONDON
EC1V 4PY
Company No. 05901213

Status: Active - Proposal to Strike off
Date of Incorporation: 09/08/2006

Country of Origin: United Kingdom
Company Type: Private Limited Company
Nature of Business (SIC(03)):
7487 - Other business activities
Accounting Reference Date: 31/08
Last Accounts Made Up To: (NO ACCOUNTS FILED)
Next Accounts Due: 09/06/2008 OVERDUE
Last Return Made Up To: 09/08/2007
Next Return Due: 06/09/2008 OVERDUE


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Tony Bryer, 'Software to build on' from Greentram
www.superbeam.co.uk www.superbeam.com www.greentram.com

Hi sounds very expensive to me, there is a company in London called Ncpm247 who use hyd=
rophobic nanoparticle pure water system that works in the same way. They charge arou=
nd =C2=A3150 for a large house, the system is unique the them and lasts for three years=
plus. They are window cleaners and use a producy they call Hydrostorme that when appl=
ied to glass forms a hydrophobic barrier, and glass becomes very low maintenance. vi=
sit them here at http://www.ncpm247.com

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nathan colwell wrote:

Hi sounds very expensive to me, there is a company in London called Ncpm247

Let me guess... they're absolutely no relation to the ncpm247 mentioned
in your email address are they?

On Dec 4, 3:04 pm, (Steve Firth) wrote:
nathan colwell wrote:
Hi sounds very expensive to me, there is a company in London called Ncpm247

Let me guess... they're absolutely no relation to the ncpm247 mentioned
in your email address are they?

mmm

and I quote:-

"Vistec self cleaning windows formular is inspired by Prince Charles
and won top award on tomorrows world."

.....strangely the Vistec webs(h)ite is down for maintenance (maybe to
add "Mr Lee's" somewhat over-glowing recommendation??)

.....thanks to Google's cache some old gems are still available....

JimK

In message , Steve Firth
writes
nathan colwell wrote:

Hi sounds very expensive to me, there is a company in London called Ncpm247

Let me guess... they're absolutely no relation to the ncpm247 mentioned
in your email address are they?

Why are these spammers all so terminally stupid ?



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geoff

On 4 Dec, 22:49, Owain wrote:
On 4 Dec, 21:18, geoff wrote:

Let me guess... they're absolutely no relation to the ncpm247 mentioned
in your email address are they?
Why are these spammers all so terminally stupid ?

Because if they had more brains they'd be working in McD's.

Owain

Surely the term "spam" would refer to links and comments with no
relevance to the forum, made purely for increased traffic? The
comments made are relevant to the discussion and the coment is not
misleading, if someone has a website or company that has a product or
service that is relevant to a particular discussion and wants to share
it, this is not spam. I cant write much more, I have to get back to
flipping burgers.

Kind regards

Terminally stupid

"JimK" wrote in message
...


and I quote:-

"Vistec self cleaning windows formular is inspired by Prince Charles
and won top award on tomorrows world."


Yeah right.

Like Big Ears can't afford to pay a window cleaner.

He probably makes his own shoes out of old car tyres, as well.


michael adams

...

simian66 wrote:

On 4 Dec, 22:49, Owain wrote:
On 4 Dec, 21:18, geoff wrote:

Let me guess... they're absolutely no relation to the ncpm247 mentioned
in your email address are they?
Why are these spammers all so terminally stupid ?

Because if they had more brains they'd be working in McD's.

Owain

Surely the term "spam" would refer to links and comments with no
relevance to the forum, made purely for increased traffic? The
comments made are relevant to the discussion and the coment is not
misleading, if someone has a website or company that has a product or
service that is relevant to a particular discussion and wants to share
it, this is not spam. I cant write much more, I have to get back to
flipping burgers.

Heck just look at that, a change of email address in the From: line but
it's still the cluelessly stupid spammer who is now arguing that his
spam isn't spam. That's ummm tired old tactic #3 of spammers isn't it?
Just after the initial spam and the habitual telling of lies.

Of course being terminally stupid, the spammer forgets that he started
his spam by pretending to provide an unsolicited testimonial for his
hown products, "there is a company in London" was how it started and
"they are" and "they call" and "visit them" was how it continued. The
rest of us, presumably, are supposed to be so stupid that we don't
remember something posted just two days ago.

On Dec 6, 9:40 am, simian66 a.k.a. nathan colwell
wrote:

Surely the term "spam" would refer to links and comments with no
relevance to the forum, made purely for increased traffic?

er yes....

The
comments made are relevant to the discussion and the coment is not
misleading, if someone has a website or company that has a product or
service that is relevant to a particular discussion and wants to share
it, this is not spam.

erm but this is UK DIY (clue is in the description of the forum)?

your relevant "coments" are rather obviously an attempt (**** poor) at
advertising your product/service by use of a fake recommendation by
you posing as one of your customers - FFS! :))))

That you then attempt to justify your hapless attempt at E-commerce by
changing the name on your next post from the same email address amused
me sufficiently to type this out in longhand for you (in anticipation
of more gems forthcoming)

I cant write much more, I have to get back to flipping burgers.

mmm I expect you're marginally better at that than you are in
"murketing" or "bizness promoshun"

Cheers
JimK

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 03:11:01 -0800 (PST), JimK
wrote:


your relevant "coments" are rather obviously an attempt (**** poor) at
advertising your product/service by use of a fake recommendation by
you posing as one of your customers - FFS! :))))

Be fair, at least he didn't "Just come across this amazing new site"
as most of them claim.

Its also seemingly a homeopathic glass treatment as "hydrophobic
nanoparticle pure water" in order to be pure must contain nothing
else. Perhaps his snakewater works by remembering a passing
acquaintance it once had with a friendly nanoparticle?

The explanation is certainly amusing -

"think of purified water as water that is in an unnatural state of
being, it would make sense that the water would be attracted to
returning to its natural state of being. Purified water is
"uncomfortable" being purified and it wants to return to the trace
elements that are found in water." Homeopathic window cleaning !!

Peter Parry wrote:

On Sun, 6 Dec 2009 03:11:01 -0800 (PST), JimK
wrote:


your relevant "coments" are rather obviously an attempt (**** poor) at
advertising your product/service by use of a fake recommendation by
you posing as one of your customers - FFS! :))))

Be fair, at least he didn't "Just come across this amazing new site"
as most of them claim.

Its also seemingly a homeopathic glass treatment as "hydrophobic
nanoparticle pure water" in order to be pure must contain nothing
else. Perhaps his snakewater works by remembering a passing
acquaintance it once had with a friendly nanoparticle?

I think it's quite funny that they are advertising that all of their
window cleaners have rabies.

Peter Parry wrote:


Its also seemingly a homeopathic glass treatment as "hydrophobic
nanoparticle pure water" in order to be pure must contain nothing
else. Perhaps his snakewater works by remembering a passing
acquaintance it once had with a friendly nanoparticle?



And 'pure' has meant dog ****. As collected by pure-finders for the
tanners in London.

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Rod

this area has made some progress - self cleaning glass is now available for
balconies as well

here check this:
http://www.balconette.co.uk/Self-Cleaning-Glass/

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