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Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. confused, Cambridge (Robert) |
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Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. confused, Cambridge (Robert) The wikipedia entry has operating instructions. -- Reentrant |
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"RobertL" wrote in message ... Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. confused, Cambridge (Robert) I prefer the taps at the back. You see, being male, trying to negotiate taps at the front is difficult. In fact, I think men all over the world prefer the taps at the back. I want to use a bidet, not practice getting on and off a bicycle. :-) The center douche is best aimed slightly towards the back of the bowl, as you face the front. It hits the spot a lot more efficiently like that. :-) Bidet translation = Coventry Fanny Splasher |
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RobertL wrote:
Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. confused, Cambridge (Robert) Washing your bum and bits more than once a day seems very inconvienient anyway, unless you are saving the planet by not using toilet paper. :¬) Come to think of it, do you change the position you're facing depending on whether your washing your back or front bottom? Pete -- http://www.GymRatZ.co.uk - Fitness+Gym Equipment. http://www.bodysolid-gym-equipment.co.uk http://www.trade-price-supplements.co.uk http://www.water-rower.co.uk |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:08:47 -0800 (PST) someone who may be RobertL
wrote this:- Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, but the ones with submerged water outlets caused much sucking of teeth and talk of contamination of water supplies. If installing the latter, make sure it is connected properly, as there is a risk of contamination otherwise. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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"David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:08:47 -0800 (PST) someone who may be RobertL wrote this:- Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, but the ones with submerged water outlets caused much sucking of teeth and talk of contamination of water supplies. If installing the latter, make sure it is connected properly, as there is a risk of contamination otherwise. David Hansen, Edinburgh And if you are connecting the bidet directly to a cold mains supply, please make sure it has a regulated gate restriction in the supply pipe, not just a stopcock. Mains water pressure in most parts of the UK at such close quarters of a bidet, can remove a layer of skin before one gets the chance to stand up. |
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"BigWallop" wrote in message
om... "David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:08:47 -0800 (PST) someone who may be RobertL wrote this:- Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, but the ones with submerged water outlets caused much sucking of teeth and talk of contamination of water supplies. If installing the latter, make sure it is connected properly, as there is a risk of contamination otherwise. David Hansen, Edinburgh And if you are connecting the bidet directly to a cold mains supply, please make sure it has a regulated gate restriction in the supply pipe, not just a stopcock. Mains water pressure in most parts of the UK at such close quarters of a bidet, can remove a layer of skin before one gets the chance to stand up. You could just have a shower and save the floor space and the cleaning, of course... -- Bob Mannix (anti-spam is as easy as 1-2-3 - not) |
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"Bob Mannix" wrote in message ... "BigWallop" wrote in message om... "David Hansen" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:08:47 -0800 (PST) someone who may be RobertL wrote this:- Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, but the ones with submerged water outlets caused much sucking of teeth and talk of contamination of water supplies. If installing the latter, make sure it is connected properly, as there is a risk of contamination otherwise. David Hansen, Edinburgh And if you are connecting the bidet directly to a cold mains supply, please make sure it has a regulated gate restriction in the supply pipe, not just a stopcock. Mains water pressure in most parts of the UK at such close quarters of a bidet, can remove a layer of skin before one gets the chance to stand up. You could just have a shower and save the floor space and the cleaning, of course... Bob Mannix Stick yer arse over the edge of the bath, with the shower head in one hand. It worked for me for many years. :-) |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:45:46 GMT, "BigWallop"
wrote: "David Hansen" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:08:47 -0800 (PST) someone who may be RobertL wrote this:- Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, but the ones with submerged water outlets caused much sucking of teeth and talk of contamination of water supplies. If installing the latter, make sure it is connected properly, as there is a risk of contamination otherwise. David Hansen, Edinburgh And if you are connecting the bidet directly to a cold mains supply, please make sure it has a regulated gate restriction in the supply pipe, not just a stopcock. Mains water pressure in most parts of the UK at such close quarters of a bidet, can remove a layer of skin before one gets the chance to stand up. Could it remove any other parts ? :-( |
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wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 15:45:46 GMT, "BigWallop" wrote: "David Hansen" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 07:08:47 -0800 (PST) someone who may be RobertL wrote this:- Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, but the ones with submerged water outlets caused much sucking of teeth and talk of contamination of water supplies. If installing the latter, make sure it is connected properly, as there is a risk of contamination otherwise. David Hansen, Edinburgh And if you are connecting the bidet directly to a cold mains supply, please make sure it has a regulated gate restriction in the supply pipe, not just a stopcock. Mains water pressure in most parts of the UK at such close quarters of a bidet, can remove a layer of skin before one gets the chance to stand up. Could it remove any other parts ? :-( I know an old golfer who used a new bidet connected to the mains water supply. He did get a hole in one, and a big bruise on the other one. :-) |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember RobertL saying something like: Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Sit? I wash my feet in it. |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember saying something like: Mains water pressure in most parts of the UK at such close quarters of a bidet, can remove a layer of skin before one gets the chance to stand up. Could it remove any other parts ? :-( Could save the NHS a bleeding fortune, if it did. |
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Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, What's the point of a bidet with separate hot and cold over-the-side taps? I've seen one in a rented house and don't really understand. It's just like a low level basin with separate taps - there's no spray or jet, and the taps are directed downwards. The only purpose I can think of is for washing feet or babies, but can't see how it fulfills its bidet function without a lot of splashing... Theo |
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RobertL wrote:
Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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What's the point of a bidet with separate hot and cold over-the-side taps? I've seen one in a rented house and don't really understand. It's just like a low level basin with separate taps - there's no spray or jet, and the taps are directed downwards. The only purpose I can think of is for washing feet or babies, but can't see how it fulfills its bidet function without a lot of splashing... We have a Great Dane X Greyhound who really like to drink out of the sink with the taps running. He can still only reach over the top with a foot stool so perhaps its a fancy dog bowl. :¬) -- http://www.GymRatZ.co.uk - Fitness+Gym Equipment. http://www.bodysolid-gym-equipment.co.uk http://www.trade-price-supplements.co.uk http://www.water-rower.co.uk |
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On 10 Nov 2008 17:15:25 +0000 (GMT) someone who may be Theo
Markettos wrote this:- What's the point of a bidet with separate hot and cold over-the-side taps? I've seen one in a rented house and don't really understand. As far as I can see, the only point is to avoid frightening what one might call traditional UK water engineers. -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
RobertL wrote: Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? For what it's worth I heard a science programme talking about C Difficile. It seems that most people who get it have taken it in on their crutches (the nether region ones, not leg props). I would like to see whether the rate for this is lower in regions where people wash after a crap, such as Islamic countries and continental countries like France, where bidets are common. Many English people seem to have constipation judging by the shelves of potions in the shops. Perhaps paper is more effective then, but I still think a bidet is a good idea, especially if you eat a decent diet. BTW in France teenage girls used to call it their 'Father Confessor'! Peter Scott |
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Theo Markettos wrote:
David Hansen wrote: Depends on what one is washing and the design of bidet. What one might call traditional UK water engineers were very concerned about the things. The less useful ones that are like low level basins didn't concern them too much, What's the point of a bidet with separate hot and cold over-the-side taps? I've seen one in a rented house and don't really understand. It's just like a low level basin with separate taps - there's no spray or jet, and the taps are directed downwards. AFAIK there are two distinctly different flavours of bidet; one has a spray thingy in the base which directs a jet of water to your bits, the water then runs down the drain (ie no plug); the other is designed to be filled with water like a handbasin where upon you either dangle your bits in or splash water over them depending on personal geometry etc. Analagous to taking a shower or a bath, respectively. Hope that clears things up... David |
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The Medway Handyman wrote:
RobertL wrote: Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? For a start you have to remember that many cultures regard the habit of using dry toilet paper to clean up post-poo debris as being utterly disgusting; in many parts of the world it's regarded as essential to get water involved and do the job properly, as it were. I believe it's also a Muslim thing (left hand for bottom washing, right hand for eating?)? Personally I happily use TP, but it's not difficult to imagine the alternative point of view of someone brought up in a culture of cleaning up using water who would find that custom utterly disgusting. I'm also reliably informed that bidets are also a girl thing, especially at that time of the month or following a roll in the hay - ie quicker than a shower, and in the absence of a detachable shower handset, it's easier to get the water jet where you want it by using a bidet than by doing headstands in the shower cubicle. David |
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Hope that clears things up... Thanks. I'm glad to be, um, enlightened. Theo |
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"The Medway Handyman" wrote:
RobertL wrote: Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? So your neighbours watch you using it? |
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On Nov 10, 3:27*pm, "BigWallop"
wrote: "RobertL" wrote in message ... Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the *french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? *Neither seems convenient. confused, Cambridge (Robert) I prefer the taps at the back. *You see, being male, trying to negotiate taps at the front is difficult. *In fact, I think men all over the world prefer the taps at the back. *I want to use a bidet, not practice getting on and off a bicycle. *:-) The center douche is best aimed slightly towards the back of the bowl, as you face the front. *It hits the spot a lot more efficiently like that. *:-) but if you face the taps wioth the taps at th eback you have to take you trousers off! I thought the original idea was to have the taps at the front and to sit with them between your knees. That way knickers/trousers can stay round the ankles . Anyway they all seem to have taps at the back these days, although I'm not sure how much choice there is about which way the jet squirts. Robert |
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"RobertL" wrote in message ... On Nov 10, 3:27 pm, "BigWallop" wrote: "RobertL" wrote in message ... Bidets sold for the UK market all seem to have the taps on the wall side of the unit which is not as i remember them being in the past. My memory is that the french ones have the taps at the front edge with the little 'jet' squirting towards the back and you sat facing into the room. Which way are you supposed to sit on a UK bidet? Do you have to face the wall or do you face the room and have to reach behind you to operatet the taps? Neither seems convenient. confused, Cambridge (Robert) I prefer the taps at the back. You see, being male, trying to negotiate taps at the front is difficult. In fact, I think men all over the world prefer the taps at the back. I want to use a bidet, not practice getting on and off a bicycle. :-) The center douche is best aimed slightly towards the back of the bowl, as you face the front. It hits the spot a lot more efficiently like that. :-) but if you face the taps wioth the taps at th eback you have to take you trousers off! I thought the original idea was to have the taps at the front and to sit with them between your knees. That way knickers/trousers can stay round the ankles . Anyway they all seem to have taps at the back these days, although I'm not sure how much choice there is about which way the jet squirts. Robert I always thought the point to a bidet, was to wash the intimate bits without having to splash water all over the room, like from a shower head, the bath / basin taps Etc. The bidets douche sprays a nice warm jet of water on the bits that need it most, and nothing else. With the taps at the back, you can keep your trousers at your knees, not right down at your ankles. Trousers don't get caught on the taps when you sit down on it, when the taps are that way round. Maybe you need a remote control unit on your bidet. :-) |
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Lobster wrote:
Personally I happily use TP, but it's not difficult to imagine the alternative point of view of someone brought up in a culture of cleaning up using water who would find that custom utterly disgusting. Don't people spit on their loo paper, then, or is it just me? -- JGH |
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"jgharston" wrote in message ... Lobster wrote: Personally I happily use TP, but it's not difficult to imagine the alternative point of view of someone brought up in a culture of cleaning up using water who would find that custom utterly disgusting. Don't people spit on their loo paper, then, or is it just me? JGH It's just you mate. It's just you. :-) |
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Lobster wrote: left hand for bottom washing, right hand for eating? Hence cack-handed. I wonder if that is the origin? It makes sense. Do you know or are you guessing? |
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On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:42:25 GMT, "The Medway Handyman"
wrote: I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? One of my sisters has a house supplied with bidet. When I visited a few years ago it, the bidet, was covered in dust. |
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"Lobster" wrote in message ... I'm also reliably informed that bidets are also a girl thing, So they are as useful as a sink in a gents urinal then:-) Adam |
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"Lobster" wrote in message ... or following a roll in the hay - The Karacher is in my garage. Adam |
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"Peter Scott" wrote in message
om... Andy Burns wrote: Lobster wrote: left hand for bottom washing, right hand for eating? Hence cack-handed. I wonder if that is the origin? It makes sense. Do you know or are you guessing? The French said "main de merde" for the same thing. -- PeterMcC If you feel that any of the above is incorrect, inappropriate or offensive in any way, please ignore it and accept my apologies. |
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"Owain" wrote in message et... jgharston wrote: Don't people spit on their loo paper, then, or is it just me? Wot BigWallop said Owain Someone at my house once mistook http://www.ciao.co.uk/Flash_Lemon_Al...Review_5522399 for moistened tissue wipes. She screamed a bit. Adam |
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We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the
drugs began to take hold. I remember jgharston saying something like: Personally I happily use TP, but it's not difficult to imagine the alternative point of view of someone brought up in a culture of cleaning up using water who would find that custom utterly disgusting. Don't people spit on their loo paper, then, or is it just me? It's not me, for sure. Anyway, how do you avoid breakthrough with soggy paper? |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message om... "Owain" wrote in message et... jgharston wrote: Don't people spit on their loo paper, then, or is it just me? Wot BigWallop said Owain Someone at my house once mistook http://www.ciao.co.uk/Flash_Lemon_Al...Review_5522399 for moistened tissue wipes. She screamed a bit. Adam Oh yah yah!!! A bidet would come in handy after that mistake. :-) |
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"Grimly Curmudgeon" wrote in message ... We were somewhere around Barstow, on the edge of the desert, when the drugs began to take hold. I remember jgharston saying something like: Personally I happily use TP, but it's not difficult to imagine the alternative point of view of someone brought up in a culture of cleaning up using water who would find that custom utterly disgusting. Don't people spit on their loo paper, then, or is it just me? It's not me, for sure. Anyway, how do you avoid breakthrough with soggy paper? Avoid long finger nails? :-) |
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"ARWadsworth" wrote in message om... "Lobster" wrote in message ... or following a roll in the hay - The Karacher is in my garage. Adam After a good hose up, you can have good hose down. :-) |
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"Peter Johnson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:42:25 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? One of my sisters has a house supplied with bidet. When I visited a few years ago it, the bidet, was covered in dust. You might have to show her how to use one. :-) Or at least explain the principal behind its use. I mean. lol |
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Peter Scott wrote:
Andy Burns wrote: Lobster wrote: left hand for bottom washing, right hand for eating? Hence cack-handed. I wonder if that is the origin? It makes sense. Do you know or are you guessing? It seems to be http://www.worldwidewords.org/qa/qa-cac1.htm This is the web site of Michael Quinion, an authority on such things. If you have an interest in words its well worth signing up for his weekly digest. Saturday morning, 2 boiled eggs, world wide words - sorted. -- Dave - The Medway Handyman www.medwayhandyman.co.uk |
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"Peter Johnson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:42:25 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? One of my sisters has a house supplied with bidet. When I visited a few years ago it, the bidet, was covered in dust. Could be a lot worse !!!! Dave |
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bidet - which way to you face?
Dave wrote:
"Peter Johnson" wrote in message ... On Mon, 10 Nov 2008 18:42:25 GMT, "The Medway Handyman" wrote: I didn't think anyone actually used one. Aren't they just for show - to impress the neighbours? One of my sisters has a house supplied with bidet. When I visited a few years ago it, the bidet, was covered in dust. Could be a lot worse !!!! Dave Yes, we ripped ours out after a visitor's young daughter used the 'girls toilet', leaving a surprisingly large deposit, which she tried to flush away by turning on the hot tap. We discovered her mistake shortly after when the downstairs ceiling collapsed. Plasterboard and hot water don't mix. -- Keith |
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