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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
I am in the UK.
WD-40 and 3-in-one are both distributed by the same UK company. http://www.wd40.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=16 Presumably (???) the spray 3-in-one is different to WD-40 as they are part of two different product ranges I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. Which of these two products would be more suitable for me? I am sure there are other better products but I want something I can get relatively easily and these oils plus one or two others like Castrol or Duckhams can be found everywhere. Thanks, Andrew -- xpost to: chem, phy, DIY |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
WD40 stands for "water dispersant", which is its primary use. 3-in-1 is best as a lubricating oil. Plus gas is best for penetrating. I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. I'd go for WD40, although if you want it to last some time, you might be better off with a grease, rather than light oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. I don't know about that. Christian. |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
Christian McArdle wrote:
WD40 stands for "water dispersant", which is its primary use. 3-in-1 is best as a lubricating oil. Plus gas is best for penetrating. I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. I'd go for WD40, although if you want it to last some time, you might be better off with a grease, rather than light oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. I don't know about that. I thought any vegetable oil works well on sticky labels. |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
On Wed, 7 Jun 2006 15:49:04 UTC, Andrei Semyon
wrote: I am in the UK. WD-40 and 3-in-one are both distributed by the same UK company. http://www.wd40.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=16 Presumably (???) the spray 3-in-one is different to WD-40 as they are part of two different product ranges I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. WD-40 isn't really an oil, and it's not intended as a lubricant. Hint: WD stands for Water Displacer, so go for that. And it's good at labels.. -- The information contained in this post is copyright the poster, and specifically may not be published in, or used by Avenue Supplies, http://avenuesupplies.co.uk |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
In article , "Bob Eager" wrote:
[...] WD-40 isn't really an oil, and it's not intended as a lubricant. Hint: WD stands for Water Displacer, so go for that. And it's good at labels.. According to the WD-40 site, lubrication *is* one of the "official" uses. |
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"David Bostwick" wrote in message ... In article , "Bob Eager" wrote: [...] WD-40 isn't really an oil, and it's not intended as a lubricant. Hint: WD stands for Water Displacer, so go for that. And it's good at labels.. According to the WD-40 site, lubrication *is* one of the "official" uses. It's okay as a short term lubricant, if you want something that lasts use 3 in 1. |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
Andrei Semyon wrote: I am in the UK. WD-40 and 3-in-one are both distributed by the same UK company. http://www.wd40.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=16 Presumably (???) the spray 3-in-one is different to WD-40 as they are part of two different product ranges I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. Which of these two products would be more suitable for me? I am sure there are other better products but I want something I can get relatively easily and these oils plus one or two others like Castrol or Duckhams can be found everywhere. Thanks, Andrew 3-in-One? Isn't that the stuff that cleans, lubricates, AND prevents rust? It's much more versatile than those other oils that, for instance, lubricate and clean, but don't prevent rust. Anyway, on the 40th attempt, a fine Water Displacer was created. Might as well use that. It will remove residue from the stickers on clothing, too. Don't spray it on the clothing-- put a little on a paper towel and dab. I have both. They're cheap. |
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from Greg Hansen contains these words: Don't spray it on the clothing-- put a little on a paper towel and dab. I have both. They're cheap. You have paper towels /and/ clothes? That's just showing off. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:49:04 +0100, Andrei Semyon wrote:
I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. 3 in 1 More as a waterproofing oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. WD40 Which of these two products would be more suitable for me? Both. WD40 is not a lubricant it is a water displacer. It does have some light oils but they evaporate or dry out over time. These light oils in WD40 don't really make it suitable as a adhesive solvent, they stain and remain requiring further clean up. I find lighter fluid much better for that as it quickly and fully evaporates, it doesn't mark timber either. -- Cheers Dave. pam is missing e-mail |
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On 07 Jun 2006, Guy wrote:
According to the WD-40 site, lubrication *is* one of the "official" uses. It's crap at it though. I think it was indeed crap but since its beginnings I believe it has been through many re-formulations. Maybe by now they have got it about right? |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
Andrei Semyon wrote:
I am in the UK. WD-40 and 3-in-one are both distributed by the same UK company. http://www.wd40.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=16 Presumably (???) the spray 3-in-one is different to WD-40 as they are part of two different product ranges I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. Which of these two products would be more suitable for me? I am sure there are other better products but I want something I can get relatively easily and these oils plus one or two others like Castrol or Duckhams can be found everywhere. Personnaly, I'd plump for the 3in1 - also consider (if you can find it) sewing machine oil, WD40 will evaporate away. Label glue - tricky, depends on the label! If on a resistant surface use acetone (or nail varnish remover), no good on plastics.... -- Ron Jones Process Safety & Development Specialist Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein |
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WD40 or 3-in-one: which is better
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from Alex Coleman contains these words: Maybe by now they have got it about right? Not as a lubricant, they haven't. Or at least, not when I last used it as one a few years ago. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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"Ron Jones" wrote in message ... | Andrei Semyon wrote: | I am in the UK. | | WD-40 and 3-in-one are both distributed by the same UK company. | http://www.wd40.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=16 | Presumably (???) the spray 3-in-one is different to WD-40 as they are | part of two different product ranges | | | | I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. | Not for use as a penetrating oil. | More as a waterproofing oil. | Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. | | Which of these two products would be more suitable for me? | | I am sure there are other better products but I want something I can | get relatively easily and these oils plus one or two others like | Castrol or Duckhams can be found everywhere. | | | Personnaly, I'd plump for the 3in1 - also consider (if you can find it) | sewing machine oil, WD40 will evaporate away. Label glue - tricky, depends | on the label! If on a resistant surface use acetone (or nail varnish | remover), no good on plastics.... | | | | -- | Ron Jones | Process Safety & Development Specialist | Don't repeat history, unreported chemical lab/plant near missesa at | http://www.crhf.org.uk Only two things are certain: The universe and | human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert | Einstein | You've misquoted. Only two things are certain: death and taxes. Only two things are infinite: The universe and human stupidity; and I'm not certain about the universe. ~ Albert Einstein As far as the universe and human stupidity goes I'm quite certain Albert Einstein falls into the latter category. http://www.androcles01.pwp.blueyonde...minoEffect.GIF Androcles |
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from Owain contains these words: According to the WD-40 site, lubrication *is* one of the "official" uses. It's crap at it though. I quite like the smell, but it's not condom-friendly. Many years ago I got up bleary one morning and shot myself under the arms with WD40. I learnt from that never to keep the can on the mantlepiece of my bedsit. Still, my arms don't appear to have rusted, so I s'pose it worked. -- Skipweasel Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain. |
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On Wed, 07 Jun 2006 16:49:04 +0100, Andrei Semyon
wrote: I am in the UK. WD-40 and 3-in-one are both distributed by the same UK company. http://www.wd40.co.uk/index.cfm?articleid=16 Presumably (???) the spray 3-in-one is different to WD-40 as they are part of two different product ranges I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. Which of these two products would be more suitable for me? I am sure there are other better products but I want something I can get relatively easily and these oils plus one or two others like Castrol or Duckhams can be found everywhere. WD40 is a very light oil so would be better, but it's nothing special, a can of pound shop equivalent would be just as good. BTW the nozzle on the can seems to have been perfected for binary on/off operation so you waste as much as possible; it's near impossible to press it part way. If you only need to spray a small amount at a time, something like this: http://www.rapidonline.com/productinfo.aspx?id=-1&tier1=Tools%2c+Fasteners+%26+Production+Equipmen t&tier2=Service+Aids&tier3=Paints+%26+Primers&tier 4=Spray+can+trigger+handle&moduleno=34102 makes life a lot lot easier, and the can lasts a lot longer. cheers, Pete. |
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Guy King wrote:
The message from Alex Coleman contains these words: Maybe by now they have got it about right? Not as a lubricant, they haven't. Or at least, not when I last used it as one a few years ago. For a short term lubricant it's good, because it gets in quick, but long term especially somewhere warm it can be worse than useless by washing away the last trace of proper oil. It is good for removing label glue, but no better than paraffin - I keep a bottle of "lamp oil" which even takes label glue off (shiny) book covers without marking them. Chris -- Spamtrap in use To email replace 127.0.0.1 with blueyonder dot co dot uk |
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"Guy King" wrote in message ... The message from Greg Hansen contains these words: Don't spray it on the clothing-- put a little on a paper towel and dab. I have both. They're cheap. You have paper towels /and/ clothes? That's just showing off. Well......he did say he wears cheap clothes. Eric Lucas |
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Grumps wrote:
Christian McArdle wrote: WD40 stands for "water dispersant", which is its primary use. 3-in-1 is best as a lubricating oil. Plus gas is best for penetrating. I want some spray oil to use as a very light oil. Not for use as a penetrating oil. More as a waterproofing oil. I'd go for WD40, although if you want it to last some time, you might be better off with a grease, rather than light oil. Also as a solvent for the glue on adhesive labels. I don't know about that. I thought any vegetable oil works well on sticky labels. That's interesting. How does it work? Dave |
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On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:26:26 +0100, Dave
wrote: I thought any vegetable oil works well on sticky labels. That's interesting. How does it work? I believe the gum has a vegetable origin. BICBW Certainly d-limonene (Orange cleaner) works a treat on it. DG |
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Derek ^ wrote:
On Sat, 10 Jun 2006 16:26:26 +0100, Dave wrote: I thought any vegetable oil works well on sticky labels. That's interesting. How does it work? I believe the gum has a vegetable origin. BICBW Certainly d-limonene (Orange cleaner) works a treat on it. Many thanks for that. It has been noted :-) Dave |
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On 18 Jun 2006, Derek wrote:
I thought any vegetable oil works well on sticky labels. That's interesting. How does it work? I believe the gum has a vegetable origin. BICBW Certainly d-limonene (Orange cleaner) works a treat on it. Two common self-adhesive gums are made from (a) natural rubber (b) acrylics. |
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On 08 Jun 2006, Chris wrote:
Guy King wrote: The message from Alex Coleman contains these words: Maybe by now they have got it about right? Not as a lubricant, they haven't. Or at least, not when I last used it as one a few years ago. For a short term lubricant it's good, because it gets in quick, but long term especially somewhere warm it can be worse than useless by washing away the last trace of proper oil. It is good for removing label glue, but no better than paraffin - I keep a bottle of "lamp oil" which even takes label glue off (shiny) book covers without marking them. I use white spirit (turps substitute). Is paraffin actually better at label removing that white spirit is? |
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