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At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge
bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. The house is registered with the Land Registry, so it's not a catastrophic loss if the papers do get burnt, but I'd rather keep them as safe as is practicable. The mortgage was with a bank and they don't offer a scheme to retain the papers if a nominal outstanding balance is left unpaid. Instead they want full commercial rates for document storage. They offer no alternative. So what clever ideas have any of you come up with to solve this problem ? I can't find any small fire-proof boxes that are big enough to take the deeds, but a safe that's big enough is absurdly huge. I know where to get a metal deeds storage box of just the right size, but it isn't fire proof. Is there any way of adapting one of those to be a suitable solution ? It looks as though the fire-proofing is mostly a concrete layer anyway. Perhaps somebody has done it themselves ? |
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wrote in message oups.com... At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. The house is registered with the Land Registry, so it's not a catastrophic loss if the papers do get burnt, but I'd rather keep them as safe as is practicable. The mortgage was with a bank and they don't offer a scheme to retain the papers if a nominal outstanding balance is left unpaid. Instead they want full commercial rates for document storage. They offer no alternative. So what clever ideas have any of you come up with to solve this problem ? I can't find any small fire-proof boxes that are big enough to take the deeds, but a safe that's big enough is absurdly huge. I know where to get a metal deeds storage box of just the right size, but it isn't fire proof. Is there any way of adapting one of those to be a suitable solution ? It looks as though the fire-proofing is mostly a concrete layer anyway. Perhaps somebody has done it themselves ? ============== You could ask the solicitor who's keeping your Will if he can store them. Cic. |
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"Cicero" wrote in message k... wrote in message oups.com... At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. The house is registered with the Land Registry, so it's not a catastrophic loss if the papers do get burnt, but I'd rather keep them as safe as is practicable. The mortgage was with a bank and they don't offer a scheme to retain the papers if a nominal outstanding balance is left unpaid. Instead they want full commercial rates for document storage. They offer no alternative. So what clever ideas have any of you come up with to solve this problem ? I can't find any small fire-proof boxes that are big enough to take the deeds, but a safe that's big enough is absurdly huge. I know where to get a metal deeds storage box of just the right size, but it isn't fire proof. Is there any way of adapting one of those to be a suitable solution ? It looks as though the fire-proofing is mostly a concrete layer anyway. Perhaps somebody has done it themselves ? ============== You could ask the solicitor who's keeping your Will if he can store them. Cic. He will possibly store them in a bank vault ! Bit senseless really. don't offer a scheme to retain the papers if a nominal outstanding balance is left unpaid. Did you not say that you had paid off your mortgage ? Pete |
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On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:30:17 +0100, "Peter Stockdale"
wrote: "Cicero" wrote You could ask the solicitor who's keeping your Will if he can store them. He will possibly store them in a bank vault ! Someone around here I know rents many local authority garages (the sort found in rows behind 1970's type developments) with up and over doors. He uses them to store documents from solicitors (and yes - they do know where the stuff is being stored) so "secure storage" when applied to solicitors may need to be interpreted imaginatively. -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message .com, writes At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. Mine are in the filing cabinet along with all the other important documents What real importance are they ? You could always scan the important parts (e.g. boundaries) and store them on-line somewhere -- geoff I would have thought the Land Registry already had them stored on his behalf anyway. Pete |
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"raden" wrote in message ... In message .com, writes At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. Mine are in the filing cabinet along with all the other important documents Just an idea, but how about sealing them in a metal pipe of some description, then placing them a metal box (steel ) which is stuffed full of mineral wool. Steel won't melt in a house fire, and the mineral wool will insulate well. Andy |
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"Peter Parry" wrote in message ... On Fri, 14 Oct 2005 20:30:17 +0100, "Peter Stockdale" wrote: "Cicero" wrote You could ask the solicitor who's keeping your Will if he can store them. He will possibly store them in a bank vault ! Someone around here I know rents many local authority garages (the sort found in rows behind 1970's type developments) with up and over doors. He uses them to store documents from solicitors (and yes - they do know where the stuff is being stored) so "secure storage" when applied to solicitors may need to be interpreted imaginatively. -- Peter Parry. http://www.wpp.ltd.uk/ ============== My solicitor makes no charge for storing my Will so I doubt if he would pay a bank for storage without passing on the charge to me. But if he does store them in a bank that's probably as secure as anywhere else so I'm quite happy with the situation. I wouldn't be very happy with the security of a LA garage but I guess that the local solicitors use this facility for the less important stuff. Cic. |
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Dave Fawthrop wrote: On 14 Oct 2005 09:10:11 -0700, wrote: | At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge | bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. I am with the Halifax, and they *lend* me GBP 125, charging me no interest for the privilege of keeping my deeds in their store. (A cunning plan to ensure that I borrow money off them if I ever need any.) That is what I call a deal. Same deal here - except that it took them so long to pay me the balance of what they owed me that they easily made up the cost of their generosity in interest + a massive extra profit. -- John Cartmell john@ followed by finnybank.com 0845 006 8822 Qercus magazine FAX +44 (0)8700-519-527 www.finnybank.com Qercus - the best guide to RISC OS computing |
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"Ian Stirling" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. Fireproof document safes do not exist. Fire resistant ones do, but they only resist for so long. Expect half an hour or an hour. I'd go with a sealed container, down at the bottom of an ocean. That's pretty fireproof. ============= Unless it lands near a volcanic vent. Cic. |
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Cicero wrote:
"Ian Stirling" wrote in message ... wrote: wrote: At last we've finally paid off our mortgage and have been sent a huge bundle of deeds and papers relating to the house. My first thought was to get a fireproof document storage box to keep them in, but some of the papers are too long ( 360mm ) to fit in any of the boxes that I've seen and it isn't very practical to fold up the bundles of paper to fit them in a smaller box. Fireproof document safes do not exist. Fire resistant ones do, but they only resist for so long. Expect half an hour or an hour. I'd go with a sealed container, down at the bottom of an ocean. That's pretty fireproof. Unless it lands near a volcanic vent. Lava isn't fire. |
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