Decided to put something back into my house rather than breaking stuff
this week. ;-)

Started with cutting the old copper pipes back that supplied the sink
and toilet.

The cistern was rusted on it's screws so I smashed it off the wall
into little bits. Opps I was meant to putting stuff back...

Filled some holes and gouges in the wall.

Anyway. Fitted some new pushfit to the copper to supply the sink and
toilet (fitted service valves on all three pipes).

Got my respirator on to remove the old toilet pan, not a fan of drains
smells. :-)
Came straight off so one plus for someone previously fitting a new
soil stack and internal plastic soil pipe complete with swiveling end
piece.

Had to clean out the end of the swivel as it was a bit crusted with
some "stuff".

Offered up the new pan and it fitted perfectly. Marked on the floor
for the fitting bolts - these are an absolutely stupid idea (Wickes).
Screw with a hole/eye in the flattened top so you can put that into
the floor and then screw the bolt through the pan into them. Only
problem is they go inside the base so I found every time I moved the
pan to fit them when I put it back it wasn't in the same place. Five
holes later they matched the holes in the pan base!

Tipped a bucket of water down the pan to find it didn't leak. :-)

The instructions for the cistern base securing screws and washers were
very non de script being for half a dozen different cistern/toilet pan
systems.
Made a best guess despite having read and studied the leaflets for
weeks.
They didn't leak but the cistern fill pipe with it's washer and
plastic nut ****ed out water (haha) like a waterfall due to them
saying to tighten it by hand to avoid stripping the threads/nut.
Thank god for the service valve!!
Refitted it with some plumbers putty stuff for good measure and
tightened it with some grips despite the leaflets protests.

Reattached the supply pipe (solder against pushfit - I know which I
prefer) and it didn't leak. Filled the cistern.
The float is stupid as it sits in one corner but the flush pipe in the
middle and obstructs it where ever you position it then it hits the
side of the cistern when it fills. Settled on a slightly lower flush
level to stop this being a problem.
Flushes perfectly, no leaks and better by miles than the chocolate
brown pan there before - put that outside for the neighbours to marvel
at. ;-)

Just a slight problem with the push button flush as I cut the stick
bit too short so have had to glue a bit back on and after trying it
again today had to glue some more back on. :-) But I can live with it
being glued as it's inside the button on the underside of the cistern
lid so all it does is thread up into the top.

Not too bad for my first toilet replacement I thought?

Think I've lost or not had enough bits for the sink after looking at
it more closely today. It's a half pedestal type but I don't see how
you fasten the pedestal to the wall?

I've two big plugs and bolts/nuts for the sink basin but nothing I can
see for the pedestal. Any ideas as to how it should fit?


Mark S.

On Thu, 14 Aug 2003 22:24:13 +0100, Mark wrote:

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Think I've lost or not had enough bits for the sink after looking at
it more closely today. It's a half pedestal type but I don't see how
you fasten the pedestal to the wall?

I've two big plugs and bolts/nuts for the sink basin but nothing I can
see for the pedestal. Any ideas as to how it should fit?

If it is anything like mine if you look behind it down at the bottom there
will probably be two holes in the lugs through which you put screws to fix
it to the floor
Stuart

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"Mark" wrote in message
...
Decided to put something back into my house rather than breaking stuff
this week. ;-)
snip
The instructions for the cistern base securing screws and washers were
very non de script being for half a dozen different cistern/toilet pan
systems.
Made a best guess despite having read and studied the leaflets for
weeks.
They didn't leak but the cistern fill pipe with it's washer and
plastic nut ****ed out water (haha) like a waterfall due to them
saying to tighten it by hand to avoid stripping the threads/nut.

One piece of really good advice which came with my otherwise generally dodgy
3 piece suite:
assemble the cistern and then test for water tightness, preferably outside,
before final fitting.

I assembled everything and stood the cistern on my Workmate on the back
patio.
I found a Hozelock adapter which screwed onto the filler pipe and {Bingo!}
cistern connected to mains water.
I could then flush it to test it, and adjust the float etc.

No leaks because I fitted everything with silicone sealant, but I had to
move the filler pipe a little, and angle the float, to stop it hanging up on
top of the siphon. Fortunately the silicone sealant still did :-)

snip
Think I've lost or not had enough bits for the sink after looking at
it more closely today. It's a half pedestal type but I don't see how
you fasten the pedestal to the wall?

I've two big plugs and bolts/nuts for the sink basin but nothing I can
see for the pedestal. Any ideas as to how it should fit?

On my WHB (see previous despairing posts) I don't have the luxury of big
plugs and bolts - just upward slanting screw holes which are as much use as
a chocolate teapot on a bull.
However the pedestal does not fix to the wall - it stands out from the wall
by about 5 1/2".
The one downstairs stands out by about 6 1/2".
As Stuart says, it will probably screw to the floor at the back.
If you are lucky iy may even fit snugly to the underside of your WHB.
If not, tile grout and silicone sealant are your friends :-)

HTH
Dave R

P.S. my biggest problem is keeping the damn toilet seat in place - it seems
to keep slackening off the screws and then sliding sideways. I hope it is
just the plastic washers bedding in :-(

"David W.E. Roberts" wrote in
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As Stuart says, it will probably screw to the floor at the back.
If you are lucky iy may even fit snugly to the underside of your WHB.
If not, tile grout and silicone sealant are your friends :-)

HTH
Dave R


The OP appears to be talking about a half pedestal - they don't go down to
the floor - think of a wall-mounted urinal turned round to face the wall.
Therefore screwing to the floor is NOT an option. (Actually, not sure if I
want that thought wandering round my head...)

Mind - I have no idea how to attach it either.

Rod

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:31:51 +0100, "David W.E. Roberts"
wrote:


"Mark" wrote in message
.. .
Decided to put something back into my house rather than breaking stuff
this week. ;-)
snip
The instructions for the cistern base securing screws and washers were
very non de script being for half a dozen different cistern/toilet pan
systems.
Made a best guess despite having read and studied the leaflets for
weeks.
They didn't leak but the cistern fill pipe with it's washer and
plastic nut ****ed out water (haha) like a waterfall due to them
saying to tighten it by hand to avoid stripping the threads/nut.

One piece of really good advice which came with my otherwise generally dodgy
3 piece suite:
assemble the cistern and then test for water tightness, preferably outside,
before final fitting.

I assembled everything and stood the cistern on my Workmate on the back
patio.
I found a Hozelock adapter which screwed onto the filler pipe and {Bingo!}
cistern connected to mains water.
I could then flush it to test it, and adjust the float etc.

No leaks because I fitted everything with silicone sealant, but I had to
move the filler pipe a little, and angle the float, to stop it hanging up on
top of the siphon. Fortunately the silicone sealant still did :-)

snip
Think I've lost or not had enough bits for the sink after looking at
it more closely today. It's a half pedestal type but I don't see how
you fasten the pedestal to the wall?

I've two big plugs and bolts/nuts for the sink basin but nothing I can
see for the pedestal. Any ideas as to how it should fit?

On my WHB (see previous despairing posts) I don't have the luxury of big
plugs and bolts - just upward slanting screw holes which are as much use as
a chocolate teapot on a bull.
However the pedestal does not fix to the wall - it stands out from the wall
by about 5 1/2".
The one downstairs stands out by about 6 1/2".
As Stuart says, it will probably screw to the floor at the back.
If you are lucky iy may even fit snugly to the underside of your WHB.
If not, tile grout and silicone sealant are your friends :-)

HTH
Dave R

P.S. my biggest problem is keeping the damn toilet seat in place - it seems
to keep slackening off the screws and then sliding sideways. I hope it is
just the plastic washers bedding in :-(


Thanks for the tips. The pedestal however is not one that goes to the
floor it's a "fancy" one that is only half sized so it doesn't reach
the floor - thought it might give the floor a less cluttered and more
roomy feel as I bought the slightly bigger sink as the one in the
showroom wasn't big enough to wash one hand in nevermind anything
else.

So the sink fastens to the wall with two very big
plugs/screws/bolts/washers but the half pedestal I couldn't figure out
what or how it fastens to?


Crappy art below - sink=S pedestal=P wall=W

WSSSSS
WSSSS
WPPP
WPP
WP

Mark S.

On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 11:31:51 +0100, David W.E. Roberts wrote:

I assembled everything and stood the cistern on my Workmate on the back
patio.
I found a Hozelock adapter which screwed onto the filler pipe and {Bingo!}
cistern connected to mains water.
I could then flush it to test it, and adjust the float etc.

Thanks for that :-)

I've been putting off fitting our new toilet (+ other bathroom stuff) -
excuse after excuse (in truth I'm just scared). SHMBO is finally losing
patience and so on reading your post this morning I did just what you
suggested (I'd never have thought of that - I'd have done the lot on-site)
- all worked just great - I feel a little more confident now.

Thanks again.
--
Regards,

Troy the Black Lab.

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On Fri, 15 Aug 2003 21:13:00 +0100, Mark wrote:

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Thanks for the tips. The pedestal however is not one that goes to the
floor it's a "fancy" one that is only half sized so it doesn't reach
the floor - thought it might give the floor a less cluttered and more
roomy feel as I bought the slightly bigger sink as the one in the
showroom wasn't big enough to wash one hand in nevermind anything
else.

So the sink fastens to the wall with two very big
plugs/screws/bolts/washers but the half pedestal I couldn't figure out
what or how it fastens to?


Crappy art below - sink=S pedestal=P wall=W

WSSSSS
WSSSS
WPPP
WPP
WP

Mark S.

I must admit to not reading properly ure original post and didnt se the
"half pedestal" bit altho' Ive not heard of such a thing.
Is it possible that it should be supported by brackets fitted to the
wall.?
Stuart

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