"SteamboatEd Haas" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-7, amdx wrote:
On 7/28/2015 12:40 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT), SteamboatEd Haas
wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/steamb...57655170041438


Nice..but a bit..light duty isnt it?

Gunner

I'm wondering about lateral stability.
It might want to fold to the left or right.

Mikek

Aye it concerns me too. I try not to lift stuff very high and I only
move in low gear.

Very nice!

I rigged up a similar result for a smaller tractor by converting a
2000 Lb shop crane into a trailer, with larger off-road wheels and a
hitch.

The caster/lift at the mast end is a trailer tongue jack with two
added outer wheels. The axle has a fork attached to a pipe tee for a
removeable screw-in pipe handle to move it manually, which is very
useful to position the load precisely, for example when reinstalling a
pickup truck bed.

Heavy loads can be secured by lowering them onto crosswise planks.
-jsw

"SteamboatEd Haas" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-7, amdx wrote:
On 7/28/2015 12:40 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT), SteamboatEd Haas
wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/steamb...57655170041438


Nice..but a bit..light duty isnt it?

Gunner

I'm wondering about lateral stability.
It might want to fold to the left or right.

Mikek

Aye it concerns me too. I try not to lift stuff very high and I only
move in low gear.

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html
--Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch your way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

It is best to have a 'thumb' that holds the rock in the bucket.

If the trench is more or less a single or several at the same time,
rent a small excavator They have more power, move side to side and dump
where typical tractors are 15 degrees or less to the side.

There are good YouTube video's -
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLF...kfxpjP9hdLkNrg

Tractor time with tim. He has tractor backhole and a small excavator
and loves the latter once he got it.

Martin


On 1/22/2018 10:03 PM, SteamboatEd Haas wrote:

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html
--Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch your way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

On Mon, 22 Jan 2018 23:14:12 -0600, Martin Eastburn
wrote:

It is best to have a 'thumb' that holds the rock in the bucket.

If the trench is more or less a single or several at the same time,
rent a small excavator They have more power, move side to side and dump
where typical tractors are 15 degrees or less to the side.

There are good YouTube video's -
https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCLF...kfxpjP9hdLkNrg

Tractor time with tim. He has tractor backhole and a small excavator
and loves the latter once he got it.

Martin


On 1/22/2018 10:03 PM, SteamboatEd Haas wrote:

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html
--Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch your way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

I have a Case 580CK backhoe and I love it. But before I got it I
rented a small tracked excavator, only about 4 feet wide. It had the
joystick control and a thumb. That little machine was a blast to run
and could dig surprisingly well. It could lift over three hundred
pounds with the thumb.
Eric

SteamboatEd Haas writes:

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html

Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but
the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a
couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky
ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch your
way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

I've used one of these several times. If you have rocks, say, smaller
than your head, no problem or, at worst, slow going. Much bigger rocks
you'll have to detour around or excavate all around and winch out.

Trench for underground 200 amp power supply to my shop has a zig in
it, a detour around a rock ca. the size of a 20" CRT monitor.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

"Mike Spencer" wrote in message
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SteamboatEd Haas writes:

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html

Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but
the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a
couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky
ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch your
way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

I've used one of these several times. If you have rocks, say,
smaller
than your head, no problem or, at worst, slow going. Much bigger
rocks
you'll have to detour around or excavate all around and winch out.

Trench for underground 200 amp power supply to my shop has a zig in
it, a detour around a rock ca. the size of a 20" CRT monitor.

--
Mike Spencer Nova Scotia, Canada

Simple and effective, but not fast:
https://www.trowandholden.com/wedgetech.php

The modified shop crane trailer I mentioned can hoist and haul away a
boulder weighing at least 1/2 ton, limited by the capacity of the
added wheels.

-jsw

On 1/17/2018 11:04 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"SteamboatEd Haas" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-7, amdx wrote:
On 7/28/2015 12:40 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT), SteamboatEd Haas
wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/steamb...57655170041438


Nice..but a bit..light duty isnt it?

Gunner

I'm wondering about lateral stability.
It might want to fold to the left or right.

Mikek

Aye it concerns me too. I try not to lift stuff very high and I only
move in low gear.

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html




I would imagine the cure to hard ground is a smaller bucket. I've
busted and removed caliche with a pick and a shovel. At my best I used
to only be average strong, so I am sure those hydraulics could handle a
man sized ground breaker of some kind.

On 23 Jan 2018 17:12:09 -0400, Mike Spencer
wrote:


SteamboatEd Haas writes:

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html

Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but
the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a
couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky
ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch your
way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

I've used one of these several times. If you have rocks, say, smaller
than your head, no problem or, at worst, slow going. Much bigger rocks
you'll have to detour around or excavate all around and winch out.

Trench for underground 200 amp power supply to my shop has a zig in
it, a detour around a rock ca. the size of a 20" CRT monitor.
30+ years ago while supervising an airport grading/drainage project, I
ran into granular material ranging from fine white blow sand to a
boulder 13 x 7 x 5 feet; after paying to have it hauled to a
designated disposal area, middle management suggested that it would
have been cheaper to just dig a deep hole and bury it where it was
found and my answer was "yeah and leave it as a surprise for someone
else!

"Bob La Londe" wrote in message
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On 1/17/2018 11:04 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
"SteamboatEd Haas" wrote in message
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On Tuesday, July 28, 2015 at 5:56:02 PM UTC-7, amdx wrote:
On 7/28/2015 12:40 PM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Tue, 28 Jul 2015 10:19:59 -0700 (PDT), SteamboatEd Haas
wrote:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/steamb...57655170041438


Nice..but a bit..light duty isnt it?

Gunner

I'm wondering about lateral stability.
It might want to fold to the left or right.

Mikek

Aye it concerns me too. I try not to lift stuff very high and I
only
move in low gear.

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html




I would imagine the cure to hard ground is a smaller bucket. I've
busted and removed caliche with a pick and a shovel. At my best I
used to only be average strong, so I am sure those hydraulics could
handle a man sized ground breaker of some kind.

The soil here isn't hard like caliche, it's glacial till, a poorly
sorted mix of sand, gravel and rocks of all sizes. The rocks make
shoveling very slow and difficult.

My immediate goal is to excavate into the hillside close behind my
house to make flat space for a new storage shed. I probably should
rent a small excavator to trench in on both ends to see if I encounter
ledge, what we call solid rock.

-jsw

"Gerry" wrote in message
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On 23 Jan 2018 17:12:09 -0400, Mike Spencer
wrote:


SteamboatEd Haas writes:

Is that BX22 practical to excavate rocky ground?
http://www.tractordata.com/backhoe-l...tachments.html

Good question. Sure you can pick up boulders with the backhoe but
the standard bucket is only 12" wide. As for weight I suppose a
couple hundred pounds could be lifted out of a trench. By 'rocky
ground' I think as long as it's not concrete you could scratch
your
way beneath the surface without too much trouble.

I've used one of these several times. If you have rocks, say,
smaller
than your head, no problem or, at worst, slow going. Much bigger
rocks
you'll have to detour around or excavate all around and winch out.

Trench for underground 200 amp power supply to my shop has a zig in
it, a detour around a rock ca. the size of a 20" CRT monitor.

30+ years ago while supervising an airport grading/drainage project,
I
ran into granular material ranging from fine white blow sand to a
boulder 13 x 7 x 5 feet; after paying to have it hauled to a
designated disposal area, middle management suggested that it would
have been cheaper to just dig a deep hole and bury it where it was
found and my answer was "yeah and leave it as a surprise for someone
else!

There's a housing development around here where the builder buried the
boulders under the road. Later when the town extended water and sewer
out there the pipeline crews were NOT happy.