I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

It would be based on a stationary platform, meaning that there is no
requirement that this robot moves about. Its only job would be, upon
command, to aim and shoot at targets. I hope that eventually it could
aim and shoot at moving targets,but for the beginning, they will be
stationary.

To be safe, and for ease of development, it will shoot non-lethal
bullets like airsoft bullets or some such. Since it does not need to
move,I want it to be powered by 110 volts and, if necessary,
compressed air. The platform would be leveled with some precision
using adjustable feet. (this will aid in computing trajectory).

Acquisition of targets, and calculation of distance and relative
location of the target, would be done with two cameras providing
stereoscopic effect, like human eyes.


What I am hoping is that I can build a robot that would, say,be able
to shoot dozens of randomly placed dominoes with astonishing speed.

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun
can I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no
slide racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

"Ignoramus12003" wrote in
message ...
I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic
machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

It would be based on a stationary platform, meaning that there is no
requirement that this robot moves about. Its only job would be, upon
command, to aim and shoot at targets. I hope that eventually it
could
aim and shoot at moving targets,but for the beginning, they will be
stationary.

To be safe, and for ease of development, it will shoot non-lethal
bullets like airsoft bullets or some such. Since it does not need to
move,I want it to be powered by 110 volts and, if necessary,
compressed air. The platform would be leveled with some precision
using adjustable feet. (this will aid in computing trajectory).

Acquisition of targets, and calculation of distance and relative
location of the target, would be done with two cameras providing
stereoscopic effect, like human eyes.


What I am hoping is that I can build a robot that would, say,be able
to shoot dozens of randomly placed dominoes with astonishing speed.

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun
can I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no
slide racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and
be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one
at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:

Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

i

"Ignoramus12003" wrote in message
...

snip

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun
can I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no
slide racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

Search for sentry gun and there's some interesting information available.

http://projectsentrygun.rudolphlabs.com/


RogerN

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003
wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

Gonna use a full-auto AK? g

I wonder if you could modify to your needs, one of the OpenSource
kits that are out there.

Googlit "robotic target acquisition kit"

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it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:18:10 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003
wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

Gonna use a full-auto AK? g

With a 30d mag..that doesnt go very far. Now..an American 180...or a
minigun with a good supply of ammo...that would be the ticket for
keeping those pesky door to door bible thumpers off your sidewalk....

I wonder if you could modify to your needs, one of the OpenSource
kits that are out there.

Googlit "robotic target acquisition kit"

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On 12/27/2013 3:40 AM, Gunner Asch wrote:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:18:10 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003
wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

Gonna use a full-auto AK? g

With a 30d mag..that doesnt go very far. Now..an American 180...or a
minigun with a good supply of ammo...that would be the ticket for
keeping those pesky door to door bible thumpers off your sidewalk....

OTOH, 75 round drum might be enough.

Funny, I watched the video of the paint ball sentry and it didn't seem
to actually hit the targets. I saw no paint splotches.

David

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 01:40:10 -0800, Gunner Asch
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:18:10 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003
wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

Gonna use a full-auto AK? g

With a 30d mag..that doesnt go very far. Now..an American 180...or a
minigun with a good supply of ammo...that would be the ticket for
keeping those pesky door to door bible thumpers off your sidewalk....

I had the 90rd drum at the Machine Gun Meet that time. Man, those go
through rounds like crazy. I had it on semi until I got the feel,
then let loose on a van. My burst looked like a heartbeat pulse and
the long slow curve into a straight line as I raked the van side. The
owner liked it. Those are fun guns. It cost me $25 to do that, so
feeding one would be very expensive. A mini gun would be even worse,
using up one annual paycheck per day of use, I reckon. Pass!


I'm still holding out for a nice, quiet, vaporizing laser. It would:

A) Keep thumpers from getting to the door.
and
B) Remove any of that pesky "evidence" stuff.
and
C) Eliminate local dogs who **** on the lawn/cats who pee on my porch.
and
D) Be lots of fun to watch (for very brief, smoky periods.)

I'd use a swamp cooler housing with a small motor to raise the case
enough to shoot under. That won't look too strange on the roof. Now,
where can I find a nice 50kv laser for a Benjy or less...?


I wonder if you could modify to your needs, one of the OpenSource
kits that are out there.

Googlit "robotic target acquisition kit"

--
Worrying does not take away tomorrow's troubles,
it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

The whole point of robotic targeting should be one shot accuracy and
ammo conservation. Locate target, fire once accurately, if target is
still moving fire again accurately, repeat until no movement.

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003 wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at targets.

It would be based on a stationary platform, meaning that there is no
requirement that this robot moves about. Its only job would be, upon
command, to aim and shoot at targets. I hope that eventually it could
aim and shoot at moving targets,but for the beginning, they will be
stationary.

To be safe, and for ease of development, it will shoot non-lethal
bullets like airsoft bullets or some such. Since it does not need to
move,I want it to be powered by 110 volts and, if necessary, compressed
air. The platform would be leveled with some precision using adjustable
feet. (this will aid in computing trajectory).

Acquisition of targets, and calculation of distance and relative
location of the target, would be done with two cameras providing
stereoscopic effect, like human eyes.


What I am hoping is that I can build a robot that would, say,be able to
shoot dozens of randomly placed dominoes with astonishing speed.

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun can
I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no slide
racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

Iggy! It's not worth it! Just build a better fence around your
warehouse!

Disposing of bodies is _always_ harder than you think it'll be.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 18:41:29 -0500, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Ignoramus12003" wrote in message
...
I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

It would be based on a stationary platform, meaning that there is no
requirement that this robot moves about. Its only job would be, upon
command, to aim and shoot at targets. I hope that eventually it could
aim and shoot at moving targets,but for the beginning, they will be
stationary.

To be safe, and for ease of development, it will shoot non-lethal
bullets like airsoft bullets or some such. Since it does not need to
move,I want it to be powered by 110 volts and, if necessary, compressed
air. The platform would be leveled with some precision using adjustable
feet. (this will aid in computing trajectory).

Acquisition of targets, and calculation of distance and relative
location of the target, would be done with two cameras providing
stereoscopic effect, like human eyes.


What I am hoping is that I can build a robot that would, say,be able to
shoot dozens of randomly placed dominoes with astonishing speed.

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun
can I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no
slide racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

That's a good way to separate the tasks. Usually when I approach
something like that I like to do the dicey part first, then do the "I
know I can do this with enough effort" part later. And, in this case, I
see the targeting and shooting part as dicier, so that's the right place
to start.

Iggy -- post updates if you do this, it sounds like fun! And when you
find that you always lag a moving target, say so: I'll share some control
rules with you that'll fix that problem.

--

Tim Wescott
Wescott Design Services
http://www.wescottdesign.com

On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003 wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:



Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving most of

the recognition and acquisition problems.



This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

Dan



i

On 12/27/2013 12:57 PM, wrote:
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003 wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:



Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving most of

the recognition and acquisition problems.



This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

Dan



i



Wouldn't work on the roof of a moving car...

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:33:03 -0600, Tim Wescott
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003 wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at targets.

It would be based on a stationary platform, meaning that there is no
requirement that this robot moves about. Its only job would be, upon
command, to aim and shoot at targets. I hope that eventually it could
aim and shoot at moving targets,but for the beginning, they will be
stationary.

To be safe, and for ease of development, it will shoot non-lethal
bullets like airsoft bullets or some such. Since it does not need to
move,I want it to be powered by 110 volts and, if necessary, compressed
air. The platform would be leveled with some precision using adjustable
feet. (this will aid in computing trajectory).

Acquisition of targets, and calculation of distance and relative
location of the target, would be done with two cameras providing
stereoscopic effect, like human eyes.


What I am hoping is that I can build a robot that would, say,be able to
shoot dozens of randomly placed dominoes with astonishing speed.

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun can
I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no slide
racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

Iggy! It's not worth it! Just build a better fence around your
warehouse!

Disposing of bodies is _always_ harder than you think it'll be.

In Chicago? Laugh...let the ******* lay there. Its obviously yet
another gang killing.


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wrote in message
...
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

Dan

Shoot at any sound? You might as well have it defend its Off switch.

Tim Wescott on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 12:33:03
-0600 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

What I am hoping is that I can build a robot that would, say,be able to
shoot dozens of randomly placed dominoes with astonishing speed.

My main qustion is, for now, the following: what kind of airsoft gun can
I buy that would be able to shoot without human assistance (no slide
racking), and preferably be powered with compressed air, and be
relatively consistent, such as 10 MOA or so. I think that I saw one at
rip-off fairs and festivals.

Iggy! It's not worth it! Just build a better fence around your
warehouse!

Disposing of bodies is _always_ harder than you think it'll be.

That is why the Vortex 2000 Perimeter Sentry System came with an
"Perp_B_Gone" option, which would amp up the particle beam in order to
take care of such ...issues.

--
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Friends help you move, good friends help you move bodies. Really good
friends help remove bodies, bloodstains any hot cars, then collect the IDs,
weapons and useful stuff." _After the Dragon's Egg_, the unbegun novel.

On Friday, December 27, 2013 3:59:06 PM UTC-5, Jim Wilkins wrote:


To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors

and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.



Dan



Shoot at any sound? You might as well have it defend its Off switch.

I did not say shoot at any sound. Iggy is smart enough to understand that shooting at a flying mosquito would include analysing the sound to determine what is making the noise. I understand that female mosquito's have a different pitch than mail mosquito's. I would shoot both, but Iggy may only want to shoot the females. They are the ones that bite. And of course one would need to program in limits on where to point the limits. Do not want to irritate the neighbors.

Dan

"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:59:06
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
wrote in message
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

I wanted to do something like that as a "bug zapper"


Shoot at any sound? You might as well have it defend its Off switch.

Sounds like an idea too.

--
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Gunner Asch on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 01:40:10 -0800
typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 22:18:10 -0800, Larry Jaques
wrote:

On Thu, 26 Dec 2013 16:52:09 -0600, Ignoramus12003
wrote:

I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

Gonna use a full-auto AK? g

With a 30d mag..that doesnt go very far. Now..an American 180...or a
minigun with a good supply of ammo...that would be the ticket for
keeping those pesky door to door bible thumpers off your sidewalk....

I wonder if you could modify to your needs, one of the OpenSource
kits that are out there.

Googlit "robotic target acquisition kit"

"Paint ball Sentinel Gun" Or "sentinel gun project." If you can
make one for a nerfgun ....
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"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

"Ignoramus12003" wrote in message
...
I would like to build a sniper robot. This would be a robotic machine,
with aa gun, cameras,and a computer inside, that would shoot at
targets.

Iggy, I think I read an article about a game ranch in Texas that was already
doing a mobile version of this for handicapped hunters. Basically a hunt by
wire method. It was not automated. Just remote control, but they may have
already solved some of the problems you may run into.




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I did not say shoot at any sound. Iggy is smart enough to understand that shooting at a flying mosquito would include analysing the sound to determine what is making the noise. I understand that female mosquito's have a different pitch than mail mosquito's. I would shoot both, but Iggy may only want to shoot the females. They are the ones that bite. And of course one would need to program in limits on where to point the limits. Do not want to irritate the neighbors.


How do you mail mosquitos? ;-)

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have a DD214, and a honorable discharge.

"Michael A. Terrell" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013
20:01:21 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
" wrote:

I did not say shoot at any sound. Iggy is smart enough to understand that shooting at a flying mosquito would include analysing the sound to determine what is making the noise. I understand that female mosquito's have a different pitch than mail mosquito's. I would shoot both, but Iggy may only want to shoot the females. They are the ones that bite. And of course one would need to program in limits on where to point the limits. Do not want to irritate the neighbors.

How do you mail mosquitos? ;-)

Very small envelopes. They can't open he standard size ones.
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:38:03 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:59:06
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
wrote in message
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On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

I wanted to do something like that as a "bug zapper"


Shoot at any sound? You might as well have it defend its Off switch.

Sounds like an idea too.

SkyNet, here we come!


This just in: 7 y/o kid suspended for making a gun in school.
http://tinyurl.com/lfwfu8b (From May 2013)
Yeah, it's time to home-school all children from now on. Libtards
have finally gone their 4,398th step too far.

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it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:38:03 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:59:06
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
wrote in message
...
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

I wanted to do something like that as a "bug zapper"

Well, you could work on your Weirding Technique until Muad'Dib was
proud of you, Pete. That'll teach those bugs to come into your home.

Speaking of which, I saw a fat, gray, furry body hasten through my
kitchen this morning when I woke up. 5 minutes later, there were 4
mousetraps set. Hope I don't step on one with my bare feet. The
killer in me is waiting expectantly to hear a loud SNAP quite soon.


--
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it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:38:03 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:59:06
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
wrote in message
...
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound
sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

I wanted to do something like that as a "bug zapper"

Well, you could work on your Weirding Technique until Muad'Dib was
proud of you, Pete. That'll teach those bugs to come into your
home.

Speaking of which, I saw a fat, gray, furry body hasten through my
kitchen this morning when I woke up. 5 minutes later, there were 4
mousetraps set. Hope I don't step on one with my bare feet. The
killer in me is waiting expectantly to hear a loud SNAP quite soon.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ757627

Larry Jaques on Sat, 28 Dec 2013
05:12:11 -0800 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:38:03 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:59:06
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
wrote in message
...
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

I wanted to do something like that as a "bug zapper"

Well, you could work on your Weirding Technique until Muad'Dib was
proud of you, Pete. That'll teach those bugs to come into your home.

Speaking of which, I saw a fat, gray, furry body hasten through my
kitchen this morning when I woke up.

If I saw such a sight - it would be the rodent repulsion unit.

5 minutes later, there were 4
mousetraps set. Hope I don't step on one with my bare feet. The
killer in me is waiting expectantly to hear a loud SNAP quite soon.

I got the one way traps.
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Speaking of which, I saw a fat, gray, furry body hasten through my
kitchen this morning when I woke up.

My sister-in-law was NOT in your kitchen this morning!

Lloyd

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 09:29:46 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


"Larry Jaques" wrote in message
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On Fri, 27 Dec 2013 16:38:03 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

"Jim Wilkins" on Fri, 27 Dec 2013 15:59:06
-0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
wrote in message
...
On Thursday, December 26, 2013 6:53:20 PM UTC-5, Ignoramus12003
wrote:
On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:
Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving
most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

To make it a little harder, how about having several sound
sensors
and have it direct a laser at a flying mosquito.

I wanted to do something like that as a "bug zapper"

Well, you could work on your Weirding Technique until Muad'Dib was
proud of you, Pete. That'll teach those bugs to come into your
home.

Speaking of which, I saw a fat, gray, furry body hasten through my
kitchen this morning when I woke up. 5 minutes later, there were 4
mousetraps set. Hope I don't step on one with my bare feet. The
killer in me is waiting expectantly to hear a loud SNAP quite soon.

http://eric.ed.gov/?id=EJ757627

I don't -even- want to know what a pair of steel-toed bunny slippers
would cost me...

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it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

On Sat, 28 Dec 2013 18:23:34 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote:

pyotr filipivich fired this volley in
:

Speaking of which, I saw a fat, gray, furry body hasten through my
kitchen this morning when I woke up.

My sister-in-law was NOT in your kitchen this morning!

Eeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeew!

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it takes away today's peace. --Lifehack

Ignoramus12003 wrote:

On 2013-12-26, Jim Wilkins wrote:

Hitting the target with a laser pointer would require solving most of
the recognition and acquisition problems.

This is an excellent point!

i

Might make for an interesting active portion of a home security system. Is it a crimson
trace or is it a laser pointer, do ya feel lucky?

Wes
--
"Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect
government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller

It's been quite a while since I've seen a post from Wes.. happy new year.

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..........


"Wes" wrote in message
...

Might make for an interesting active portion of a home security system.
Is it a crimson
trace or is it a laser pointer, do ya feel lucky?

Wes
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government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home
in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller