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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick
pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i |
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"Ignoramus12350" wrote in message
... I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Starrett 1/2" blades suck. Starrett the company sucks. Many other manufacturers of blades -- DoAll, Lenox, many others. Lenox bimetal blades supposedly rool. Proly some quantitated reviews around. Iffin yer using a Kalamazoo-type cutoff saw, they are supposed to have a chip wheel/wire brush. Allows tighter guide-wheel tolerance, for straighter/better cuts. One of those brushes/wipers after AND before the blade guide rollers is proly not a bad idea, either. Or even blast air. -- EA |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350
wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Apr 22, 10:54*am, "Existential Angst" wrote:
"Ignoramus12350" wrote in message ... I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Starrett 1/2" blades suck. *Starrett the company sucks. Many other manufacturers of blades -- DoAll, Lenox, many others. *Lenox bimetal blades supposedly rool. Proly some quantitated reviews around. Iffin yer using a Kalamazoo-type cutoff saw, they are supposed to have a chip wheel/wire brush. *Allows tighter guide-wheel tolerance, for straighter/better cuts. One of those brushes/wipers after AND before the blade guide rollers is proly not a bad idea, either. *Or even blast air. -- EA "Starrett 1/2" blades suck." Agree. They make some of the worst bandsaw blades I've ever used. I'd would suggest the bandsaw video I suggested to you to iggy but it's not worth my time to do so. All iggy ever wants is the cheap, easy answer. "Starrett the company sucks." They do now. It wasn't always that way. I own a good deal of Starrett tools. Swiss stuff from Etalon, Tesa, Interapid, etc is far better. |
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On Apr 22, 11:01*am, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01*am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Apr 22, 11:35*am, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far.. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the *problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
"Ignoramus12350" wrote in message
... I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Ed was right on on the alloy thing. Ig, by now, you should be alloy-savvy, no? 4140, even unhardened, is tough stuff. But here's what you are actually in a position to do, since you are counting buckets of chips. Buy a bunch of blades from different mfrs, keep a log of hours, materials, etc, and post back with some quantitative results on blade performance/life You should keep some kind of "standard" material for an occasional test cut (under "standard saw settings"), to assess blade performance over time. That would prove very useful for everyone cutting metal, and you could at least start to pay down the debt of, oh, about 10 years worth of free bidniss advice/technical consultations. -- EA |
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"jon_banquer" wrote in message
... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. ================================================= KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. -- EA |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35*am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the *problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Apr 22, 12:19*pm, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:07:22 -0400, "Existential Angst"
wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. =============================================== == KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. Think of it as a sequel to _The Tibetan Book of the Dead_. I can't find a publisher, though, so it's probably a dead project -- if you'll forgive the pun. -- Ed Huntress |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer
wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19*pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? -- Ed Huntress |
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On Apr 22, 12:07*pm, "Existential Angst" wrote:
"jon_banquer" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. ================================================= KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- *clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? * Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? *The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... *I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. -- EA They are angry over what Mark Wieber tried to do to them. They have good reason to be angry over what Mark Wieber tired to do to them but at this point they have long since made their point. Now it's a major distraction in trying to get the focus of this newsgroup back to metalworking... which neither KiddingNoOne or the Pimple (who appears to have next to zero machining experience) wish to see happen. Weiber has spent tons of time trying to discredit me and all of his efforts have blown up in his face. The difference between the Pimple, KiddingNoOne and myself when it comes to Mark Weiber is that I don't go overboard with a payback stalking spree at every possible chance because it's not necessary with Mark Wieber. In my case, I know how powerless Mark Wieber truly is and I know I can easily defeat his many lies about me. Wieber doesn't have the needed machining experience or CADCAM experience to play in my league. When Wieber tries he makes a complete fool out of himself. See the Gorton 2-28 milling machine thread. "Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- clearly not in your oipinion LOL) Correct, not in my opinion. Ed quit on machining and found a comfortable niche that was easier for him... writing ad copy that pretends to be an honest review. That job requires you to be gullible and not care about fact checking too closely the material the company your writing about gives you. If you were to write a truly fair review, they would pull the advertising dollars from the magazine you're writing for and use another advertising based machining magazine. The scam Ed spent much of his life involved with is called pay for play: http://worldcadaccess.typepad.com/bl...-for-play.html "and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes." Ed feels the need for the dialog. I'd argue being so promiscuous has its drawbacks. I'd also argue that Ed quitting when trying to do something like shrink sheet metal isn't the right mentality one needs to be successful working with their hands. In addition, giving up on learning why you failed, even if you no longer are interested, to me speaks volumes about who and what Ed truly is. Even if I have no interest decades later in something, I still am interested in learning where I went wrong and how I could have done it better. Not, Ed. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
... On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:07:22 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. ================================================ = KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. Think of it as a sequel to _The Tibetan Book of the Dead_. I can't find a publisher, though, so it's probably a dead project -- if you'll forgive the pun. So you ARE doing research! I was right, I was RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! Dood, .pdf, man, .pdf!!! $9.99 ebook.... or e-study, in this case. Might I suggest a title?? "The effect of chronic public UseNet masturbation on Type-1 personality disorders, type 2 (non-criminal) sociopathy: A feed-forward mechanism" Which means, essentially, the more one jerks off in public, the worse personality disorders get. LOL With the subtitle: "The possible mitigating effects of circle-jerk reach-arounds with a favorite butt-buddy" In this case, of course, Kidding/PlimpBoi. Yeah, I know, sounds a bit daunting, but dood, I'll help with the statistical analysis and editing/proof-reading. I'll even write the forward..... LOL -- EA -- Ed Huntress |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Apr 22, 1:32*pm, David Billington
wrote: On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Kill files are for pussies. You're a pussy. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
"David Billington" wrote in message
... On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Ed IS one of the sane ones, but he had me worried for a while, what with all that cavorting with the sociopathic assholes kidding/plimpboi. BUT, now that I have confirmed that he IS doing a research study on the masturbatory habits of sociopathic assholes on usenet, I can heave a sigh of relief. I can't wait for its publication, hoping for an autographed copy. -- EA |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Apr 22, 1:38*pm, "Existential Angst" wrote:
"David Billington" wrote in message ... On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last.. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Ed IS one of the sane ones, but he had me worried for a while, what with all that cavorting with the sociopathic assholes kidding/plimpboi. BUT, now that I have confirmed that he IS doing a research study on the masturbatory habits of sociopathic assholes on usenet, *I can heave a sigh of relief. I can't wait for its publication, hoping for an autographed copy. -- EA As the years pass I find your approach to be more and more refreshing. It's truly amazing what time and life's experiences can do to one's perspective. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:24:53 -0400, "Existential Angst"
wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:07:22 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. =============================================== == KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. Think of it as a sequel to _The Tibetan Book of the Dead_. I can't find a publisher, though, so it's probably a dead project -- if you'll forgive the pun. So you ARE doing research! I was right, I was RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! Dood, .pdf, man, .pdf!!! $9.99 ebook.... or e-study, in this case. Might I suggest a title?? "The effect of chronic public UseNet masturbation on Type-1 personality disorders, type 2 (non-criminal) sociopathy: A feed-forward mechanism" Which means, essentially, the more one jerks off in public, the worse personality disorders get. LOL With the subtitle: "The possible mitigating effects of circle-jerk reach-arounds with a favorite butt-buddy" In this case, of course, Kidding/PlimpBoi. Yeah, I know, sounds a bit daunting, but dood, I'll help with the statistical analysis and editing/proof-reading. I'll even write the forward..... LOL I appreciate the thought, but I'm afraid that Usenet is off the radar by now. My chance passed me by. That's why everyone -- dock workers, housewives, bicyclists; everyone -- is flocking to Jon Banquer's LinkedIn Group! If you're tired of Usenet, give it a try. I think it was mentioned on CNN last night. They had a piece on the need to improve our mental health system. -- Ed Huntress |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Apr 22, 1:44*pm, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:24:53 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:07:22 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in message .... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. =============================================== == KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- *clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? * Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? *The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... *I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. Think of it as a sequel to _The Tibetan Book of the Dead_. I can't find a publisher, though, so it's probably a dead project -- if you'll forgive the pun. So you ARE doing research! *I was right, I was RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! Dood, *.pdf, man, .pdf!!! * $9.99 ebook.... *or e-study, in this case. Might I suggest a title?? * "The effect of chronic public UseNet masturbation on Type-1 personality disorders, type 2 (non-criminal) sociopathy: *A feed-forward mechanism" Which means, essentially, the more one jerks off in public, the worse personality disorders get. *LOL With the subtitle: * *"The possible mitigating effects of circle-jerk reach-arounds with a favorite butt-buddy" In this case, of course, Kidding/PlimpBoi. Yeah, I know, sounds a bit daunting, but dood, I'll help with the statistical analysis and editing/proof-reading. I'll even write the forward..... * * LOL I appreciate the thought, but I'm afraid that Usenet is off the radar by now. My chance passed me by. That's why everyone -- dock workers, housewives, bicyclists; everyone -- is flocking to Jon Banquer's LinkedIn Group! If you're tired of Usenet, give it a try. I think it was mentioned on CNN last night. They had a piece on the need to improve our mental health system. -- Ed Huntress Wrong again and about as accurate as you thinking LinkedIn groups were blogs. My LinkedIn group is mostly filled with professional machinists, mechanical and manufacturing engineers, CADCAM company employees and owners, software engineers and independent CADCAM resellers. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On 2013-04-22, Existential Angst wrote:
"Ignoramus12350" wrote in message ... I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Starrett 1/2" blades suck. Starrett the company sucks. Many other manufacturers of blades -- DoAll, Lenox, many others. Lenox bimetal blades supposedly rool. Proly some quantitated reviews around. Iffin yer using a Kalamazoo-type cutoff saw, they are supposed to have a chip wheel/wire brush. Allows tighter guide-wheel tolerance, for straighter/better cuts. One of those brushes/wipers after AND before the blade guide rollers is proly not a bad idea, either. Or even blast air. Mine has wipers. It is called Startrite H225. i |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On 2013-04-22, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? Variable TPI, the teeth look different. |
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"jon_banquer" wrote in message .... the reality of what iggy's problem is It's not a "problem" for iggy.... He's just acting stupid, (and cleverly so) in order to profit from all the gullible folks who are apparently eager to waste their own time spoon-feeding him with information that he could easily figure out on his own if he were so inclined. -easy to feel sorry for someone in a wheelchair; only slightly less than for someone who posts on usenet using the nym "ignoramus", if you catch my drift... The problem IMO is when someone is always provided with the "easy answer", their reasoning, problem solving, and decision making skills generally suffer substantially as a result. |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:32:04 +0100, David Billington
wrote: On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Hahahooo!...it must look really weird then, Dave. You're right; if you don't jerk your knee over every right-wing myth in this place, there are some folks who will accuse you of everything short of starving your children. For those who take them seriously, it must be unpleasant. For me, it's an entertaining insight into some very warped minds. But I'll try to lighten up on replying to the real nutcases, to spare you the quotes. d8-) -- Ed Huntress |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On 2013-04-22, Existential Angst wrote:
Ed was right on on the alloy thing. Ig, by now, you should be alloy-savvy, no? 4140, even unhardened, is tough stuff. 4140, if unhardened, is extremely easy to cut on a band saw. Cuts as fast as any other steel. 8620 is a lot harder to cut! It takes forever, in comparison. When I make ships by the bucket, new problems and questions appear, I had to redo the coolant nozzle so that the blade stays wetter, etc. But here's what you are actually in a position to do, since you are counting buckets of chips. Buy a bunch of blades from different mfrs, keep a log of hours, materials, etc, and post back with some quantitative results on blade performance/life You should keep some kind of "standard" material for an occasional test cut (under "standard saw settings"), to assess blade performance over time. That would prove very useful for everyone cutting metal, and you could at least start to pay down the debt of, oh, about 10 years worth of free bidniss advice/technical consultations. Yep, I agree. i |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Apr 22, 1:53*pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in ... the reality of what iggy's problem is It's not a "problem" for iggy.... He's just acting stupid, (and cleverly so) in order to profit from all the gullible folks who are apparently eager to waste their own time spoon-feeding him with information that he could easily figure out on his own if he were so inclined. -easy to feel sorry for someone in a wheelchair; only slightly less than for someone who posts on usenet using the nym "ignoramus", if you catch my drift... The problem IMO is when someone is always provided with the "easy answer", their reasoning, problem solving, and decision making skills generally suffer substantially as a result. Yeah, I catch your drift. iggy is one pathetic piece of **** and those like Ed that keep enabling iggy are far worse in my opinion. "The problem IMO is when someone is always provided with the "easy answer", their reasoning, problem solving, and decision making skills generally suffer substantially as a result." Unfortunately in their desire to help, many like Ed miss this even though iggy's problem has been beyond obvious for years now. The best thing this group could possibly offer up in my opinion is helping those who wish to be machinists help on how to learn how to think and reason for themselves. In my opinion EA has and is now a professional machinist with the right approach. Maybe if you went and met iggy, like Ed loves to mention he has, you would feel differently. Maybe the world is really flat and maybe Mark Wieber doesn't lie. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:48:38 -0700 (PDT), Jonathan Banquer
wrote: On Apr 22, 1:44*pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:24:53 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:07:22 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. =============================================== == KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- *clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? * Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? *The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... *I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. Think of it as a sequel to _The Tibetan Book of the Dead_. I can't find a publisher, though, so it's probably a dead project -- if you'll forgive the pun. So you ARE doing research! *I was right, I was RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! Dood, *.pdf, man, .pdf!!! * $9.99 ebook.... *or e-study, in this case. Might I suggest a title?? * "The effect of chronic public UseNet masturbation on Type-1 personality disorders, type 2 (non-criminal) sociopathy: *A feed-forward mechanism" Which means, essentially, the more one jerks off in public, the worse personality disorders get. *LOL With the subtitle: * *"The possible mitigating effects of circle-jerk reach-arounds with a favorite butt-buddy" In this case, of course, Kidding/PlimpBoi. Yeah, I know, sounds a bit daunting, but dood, I'll help with the statistical analysis and editing/proof-reading. I'll even write the forward..... * * LOL I appreciate the thought, but I'm afraid that Usenet is off the radar by now. My chance passed me by. That's why everyone -- dock workers, housewives, bicyclists; everyone -- is flocking to Jon Banquer's LinkedIn Group! If you're tired of Usenet, give it a try. I think it was mentioned on CNN last night. They had a piece on the need to improve our mental health system. -- Ed Huntress Wrong again and about as accurate as you thinking LinkedIn groups were blogs. My LinkedIn group is mostly filled with professional machinists, mechanical and manufacturing engineers, CADCAM company employees and owners, software engineers and independent CADCAM resellers. Not to mention an entire cadre of lawyers gathering evidence! -- Ed Huntre |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:50:18 -0500, Ignoramus12350
wrote: On 2013-04-22, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? Variable TPI, the teeth look different. Lay a straightedge along the teeth. If the tooth HEIGHT varies, it's a Starrett VTH blade. The set varies every 3rd to 10th tooth, too. They're made mostly for nickel alloys, including stainless. I wrote an article about them last year, after spending a day in a shop that cuts a lot of 316 bars. -- Ed Huntress |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On Apr 22, 2:09*pm, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 13:48:38 -0700 (PDT), Jonathan Banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 1:44*pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:24:53 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "Ed Huntress" wrote in message .. . On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 15:07:22 -0400, "Existential Angst" wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in message ... On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. =============================================== == KiddingHisself and PlimpBoi are malevolent sociopaths, as clearly evinced by their joint GummerWitchhunt. As I pointed out elsewhere, kidding and plimp aren't worthy of holding gummer's dick while he takes a ****, and even tho YOU don't like gummer, I'll bet you'd agree 100% wit DAT. Now, Ed is clearly well-adjusted (well, imo -- *clearly not in your oipinion LOL), and I can only surmise that the reason Ed entertains their toxic malevolent semi-litirit drivel is because he's doing some kind of study on UseNet Sociopaths and Assholes. Ed, when will you be publishing this Mighty Tomb of UseNet?? * Will you be using Mr. PV's Standard AQ scale?? *The Assaholic Quotient?? Kidding will peg the meter on DAT one.... *I might have to standardize a new scale just for that pricky asshole. Think of it as a sequel to _The Tibetan Book of the Dead_. I can't find a publisher, though, so it's probably a dead project -- if you'll forgive the pun. So you ARE doing research! *I was right, I was RIGHT!!!!!!!!!!!! Dood, *.pdf, man, .pdf!!! * $9.99 ebook.... *or e-study, in this case. Might I suggest a title?? * "The effect of chronic public UseNet masturbation on Type-1 personality disorders, type 2 (non-criminal) sociopathy: *A feed-forward mechanism" Which means, essentially, the more one jerks off in public, the worse personality disorders get. *LOL With the subtitle: * *"The possible mitigating effects of circle-jerk reach-arounds with a favorite butt-buddy" In this case, of course, Kidding/PlimpBoi. Yeah, I know, sounds a bit daunting, but dood, I'll help with the statistical analysis and editing/proof-reading. I'll even write the forward..... * * LOL I appreciate the thought, but I'm afraid that Usenet is off the radar by now. My chance passed me by. That's why everyone -- dock workers, housewives, bicyclists; everyone -- is flocking to Jon Banquer's LinkedIn Group! If you're tired of Usenet, give it a try. I think it was mentioned on CNN last night. They had a piece on the need to improve our mental health system. -- Ed Huntress Wrong again and about as accurate as you thinking LinkedIn groups were blogs. My LinkedIn group is mostly filled with professional machinists, mechanical and manufacturing engineers, CADCAM company employees and owners, software engineers and independent CADCAM resellers. Not to mention an entire cadre of lawyers gathering evidence! -- Ed Huntre They are certainly free to do so. I made it an open group for a reason rather than a closed group. |
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Starret Bandsaw Blade Life Expectancy
On 22/04/13 21:57, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:32:04 +0100, David Billington wrote: On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Hahahooo!...it must look really weird then, Dave. You're right; if you don't jerk your knee over every right-wing myth in this place, there are some folks who will accuse you of everything short of starving your children. For those who take them seriously, it must be unpleasant. For me, it's an entertaining insight into some very warped minds. But I'll try to lighten up on replying to the real nutcases, to spare you the quotes. d8-) Ed, Carry on as you see fit don't worry about me. I had all but given up on RCM until I updated to a newer version of Thunderbird recently with better filtering capabilities and filtering certain frequently cross posted newsgroups and a few other things keeps it sane and quiet on RCM for me and largely on topic. Still the degradation of content over the last 10 years or so is pretty evident. |
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Iffin yer using a Kalamazoo-type cutoff saw, they are supposed to have a chip wheel/wire brush. Allows tighter guide-wheel tolerance, for straighter/better cuts. Ig, even my 50-year-old Kalamazoo #8 has those wipers -- and they're important with tight guide clearance; keep them properly adjusted and renewed as necessary. LLoyd |
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On Apr 22, 1:53*pm, "PrecisionmachinisT"
wrote: "jon_banquer" wrote in ... the reality of what iggy's problem is It's not a "problem" for iggy.... He's just acting stupid, (and cleverly so) in order to profit from all the gullible folks who are apparently eager to waste their own time spoon-feeding him with information that he could easily figure out on his own if he were so inclined. -easy to feel sorry for someone in a wheelchair; only slightly less than for someone who posts on usenet using the nym "ignoramus", if you catch my drift... The problem IMO is when someone is always provided with the "easy answer", their reasoning, problem solving, and decision making skills generally suffer substantially as a result. Count on Ed Huntress totally ignoring what you posted just like he ignores the facts about what the Pimple and KiddingNoOne are. There is most definitely a reason Ed won't do the small amount of research need to confirm facts. The facts would blow the nonsense and bull**** Ed frequently posts to smithereens. Ed honed his craft of ignoring and not wanting to know the real truth writing for advertising based magazines as well as writing ad copy over many years. You always pay a price for selling out. How Ed thinks and operates shows just how badly selling out for years and years has effected him. |
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On Apr 22, 2:18*pm, David Billington
wrote: On 22/04/13 21:57, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:32:04 +0100, David Billington wrote: On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Hahahooo!...it must look really weird then, Dave. You're right; if you don't jerk your knee over every right-wing myth in this place, there are some folks who will accuse you of everything short of starving your children. For those who take them seriously, it must be unpleasant. For me, it's an entertaining insight into some very warped minds. But I'll try to lighten up on replying to the real nutcases, to spare you the quotes. d8-) Ed, * * * Carry on as you see fit don't worry about me. I had all but given up on RCM until I updated to a newer version of Thunderbird recently with better filtering capabilities and filtering certain frequently cross posted newsgroups and a few other things keeps it sane and quiet on RCM for me and largely on topic. Still the degradation of content over the last 10 years or so is pretty evident. That you can't see why the metalworking content here has degraded and that you feel so powerless to do anything about it helps to explain why I'm in your kill file. You're a major pussy and you're very stupid as well. |
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Ignoramus12350 fired this volley in
: When I make ships by the bucket, new problems and questions appear, I had to redo the coolant nozzle so that the blade stays wetter, etc. Yup... but despite EA's inane protestations, the Starrett bi-metal blades are good. I go roughly a year between replacing them on the 8x24 Kalamazo. I don't make as much steel chips as you do, but still cut a lot of stock. I figure - at some point - time is as important as blade cost. I'm not one to shirk buying a new cutting tool if one wears out; I HATE dull _anything_. But after long enough, you figure a blade must be fatigued from all the bending, that being just as much or more destructive than the wear from actual cutting. My old blades break (usually) long before they dull. LLoyd |
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On Apr 22, 2:30*pm, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Ignoramus12350 fired this volley om: When I make ships by the bucket, new problems and questions appear, I had to redo the coolant nozzle so that the blade stays wetter, etc. Yup... but despite EA's inane protestations, the Starrett bi-metal blades are good. *I go roughly a year between replacing them on the 8x24 Kalamazo. *I don't make as much steel chips as you do, but still cut a lot of stock. I figure - at some point - time is as important as blade cost. *I'm not one to shirk buying a new cutting tool if one wears out; I HATE dull _anything_. *But after long enough, you figure a blade must be fatigued from all the bending, that being just as much or more destructive than the wear from actual cutting. *My old blades break (usually) long before they dull. LLoyd EA is not the only one. When I worked at Qualcomm's Prototype machine shop we tried Starrett band saw blades with very poor results. I've also used Starrett band saw blades elsewhere and they weren't very good and certainly were nothing special. That doesn't mean all Starrett band saw blades suck or they they don't have something new that's great only that I've seen nothing special about them. |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... But after long enough, you figure a blade must be fatigued from all the bending, that being just as much or more destructive than the wear from actual cutting. My old blades break (usually) long before they dull. If you look closely, you'll probably see numerous stress cracks. Re-welding is futile, it'll just break again someplace else. FWIW, I'm currently using DoAll blades, and the saw sees aluminum only, for maybe 3 hours a week... --blades usually last at least a year unless there's a mishap. |
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"PrecisionmachinisT" fired this volley in
news:LKGdnQKazYfgJejMnZ2dnUVZ_gmdnZ2d@scnresearch. com: f you look closely, you'll probably see numerous stress cracks. Re-welding is futile, it'll just break again someplace else. I do... I already knew that. I was just trying to make the point that fatigue is often the limiting factor. After all, every gullet is a designed-to-purpose stress riser in the metal! Lloyd |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 16:00:01 -0500, Ignoramus12350
wrote: On 2013-04-22, Existential Angst wrote: Ed was right on on the alloy thing. Ig, by now, you should be alloy-savvy, no? 4140, even unhardened, is tough stuff. 4140, if unhardened, is extremely easy to cut on a band saw. Cuts as fast as any other steel. So is hypereutectic aluminum -- until it tears the crap out of your blade, which will happen before you can get a cup of coffee. Ease of cutting may not tell you anything about blade life, Iggy, although it usually does. Just be aware that alloys are not "mild steel." Mild steel is a non-technical nickname for plain carbon steels, usually below 20 points of carbon. IOW, 1020 or below. 8620 is a lot harder to cut! It takes forever, in comparison. When I make ships by the bucket, new problems and questions appear, I had to redo the coolant nozzle so that the blade stays wetter, etc. But here's what you are actually in a position to do, since you are counting buckets of chips. Buy a bunch of blades from different mfrs, keep a log of hours, materials, etc, and post back with some quantitative results on blade performance/life You should keep some kind of "standard" material for an occasional test cut (under "standard saw settings"), to assess blade performance over time. That would prove very useful for everyone cutting metal, and you could at least start to pay down the debt of, oh, about 10 years worth of free bidniss advice/technical consultations. Yep, I agree. i |
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On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 22:18:34 +0100, David Billington
wrote: On 22/04/13 21:57, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 21:32:04 +0100, David Billington wrote: On 22/04/13 21:15, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:26:37 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 12:19 pm, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:46:44 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:35 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 11:07:57 -0700 (PDT), jon_banquer wrote: On Apr 22, 11:01 am, Ed Huntress wrote: On Mon, 22 Apr 2013 12:42:56 -0500, Ignoramus12350 wrote: I have a bandsaw with a 1 inch Starrett blade. I typically cut thick pieces, like 4-8 inch rounds. Mostly mild steel, like 4140, 8620 etc. When cutting, I have plentiful coolant, meaning that the blade is soaked with coolant just when entering the cut. Under these conditions, how long can I expect the blade to last. Say, how many buckets of chips can I expect to make with one blade? I already made a couple buckets with one blade and it seems fine so far. i Didn't you post this a while back, Iggy? I can't imagine how anyone could give you a close answer. First, 4140 and 8620 are not mild steel. They're alloys. Second, it depends. g Keep up the coolant, though. I assume you're using a regular bimetal Starrett blade, right? Or a skip-tooth, or a Variable-Tooth-Height blade? -- Ed Huntress iggy did indeed post this awhile back. iggy is still looking for the easy way out and the easy answers. Nothing new here. That you haven't figured out that this is iggy's style is just another sign of how little you understand about what the problem with iggy is. I know Iggy. I've been to his house at different times. He doesn't have a problem, Jon. YOU have a problem. With your personality. Or several of your personalities. -- Ed Huntress Ed, you have so many of your own issues that you can't understand the problem iggy has with his approach. Actually, Jon, *you're* my biggest issue lately. When you go away, I'll brighten right up. By no means am I the only one that clearly see's that iggy has a serious problem with his approach. You know very well that many others have called iggy out on these continuing issues with iggy. As per usual, you wish to ignore the problems that iggy has with his lame approach and pretend they aren't issues that other besides myself have noticed. This is very similar to how you ignore the problems of the Pimple or KiddingNoOne that others post about. WTF are you talking about? Iggy is a nice guy with a lot of guts and a willingness to ask questions. He doesn't have "issues." He has a personality, and I find it to be a quite pleasant one. He's turned his interest into a business, at considerable risk. It's doing better, I'll bet, than most startups at this stage in their history. You, on the other hand, come into a recreational metalworking group and berate people for not knowing all the answers. What do you think a recreational group is for? That it's a place for you to show off all of your professional knowledge and to make fun of people who are amateurs? This is supposed to be a group for amateurs. It's nice that some pros help out with the questions sometimes. It's NOT nice when you berate them for things that you think they should have known. We're here as hobbyists. -- Ed Huntress This has nothing to do with hobbyists, Ed and you know it. I'm not going to waste my time going over and over topics that I've fully covered with you before. What you wrote above are just more excuses for you to try to ignore the reality of what iggy's problem is just like you ignore the real problems of what KiddingNoOne and the Pimple are. Jesus, have you hung out your shingle yet? What are you doing with CAD and CAM, when you spend most of your time doing ersatz psychoanalysis from inside of a tin bucket? Using Thunderbird I can see you (Ed) replying to yourself frequently, I presume this is due to anything from Jon Banquer having been automatically deleted for some time now in my filters. All I see is a bit of what JB posted in your reply. BTW you seem one of the sane ones but I suspect not everyone would agree with that from some replies. Hahahooo!...it must look really weird then, Dave. You're right; if you don't jerk your knee over every right-wing myth in this place, there are some folks who will accuse you of everything short of starving your children. For those who take them seriously, it must be unpleasant. For me, it's an entertaining insight into some very warped minds. But I'll try to lighten up on replying to the real nutcases, to spare you the quotes. d8-) Ed, Carry on as you see fit don't worry about me. I had all but given up on RCM until I updated to a newer version of Thunderbird recently with better filtering capabilities and filtering certain frequently cross posted newsgroups and a few other things keeps it sane and quiet on RCM for me and largely on topic. Still the degradation of content over the last 10 years or so is pretty evident. Oh yes, indeed. I'll try to be good. If I can't be good, I'll at least try to entertain a bit. d8-) As Thomas Jefferson said, in his conclusion to the "Tree of Liberty" letter: "The want of facts worth communicating to you has occasioned me to give a little loose to dissertation. We must be contented to amuse, when we cannot inform." -- Ed Huntress |
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