On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:53:26 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:23:31 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:43:13 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:29:09 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:45:11 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:15:14 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 12:24:55 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
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On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:58:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:

The obnoxious thing about ARs, particularly of those that people
have
bought in the last few months, is that the big attraction is that
they're the best, proven massacre guns on the civilian market.

Ed Huntress

Last week I stopped by the station and took a peek at the local SWAT
team's gear. They've changed from HKs to those 'really ****ty'
massacre guns, short barrel and full auto.

The quote was:

'They're really ****ty guns for any reasonable civilian use:
ammo-sensitive, requiring stunt work to shoot anywhere near the
groups
of a good bolt-action; terrible lock times from early in the last
century, like a 1917 Enfield; in .223, one of the more useless
cartridges for civilian use this side of a .25-20."

Now, if you consider the work of a SWAT team to be a "reasonable
civilian use," you're part of the problem.

Why did you snip that out?

--
Ed Huntress

For Army and Marine veterans the operation of the AR-15 is instinctive
when they jump out of bed from a loud noise in the night. It goes from
safely unloaded to fully ready to shoot in under two seconds. Perhaps
Navy and AF vets and civilians would be better off with a shotgun,
though you can't slap a mag in an unloaded one by feel. I carried a
.45ACP on duty too but didn't train enough with it.
http://everything2.com/title/Perform...at+S.P.O.R.T.S.
jsw

Hmm. Marines. Camo. Slappin' mags. Shoot in two seconds. 'Sounds like
candy for a mass-murdering nutcase.

Which, of course, is why they use them. That's their identity. That's
their attraction. And that's why, in a civilian environment, even in
NORTH FREAKING CAROLINA (poll reported from HPU Survey Research
Center, 2/28/13), more than half of Americans want to ban those
obscene suckers.


Isnt that Pesky 2nd Amendment a total pain in the ass for you Blue
staters and the Media who propagandize so well?

Not at all. The Second Amerndment doesn't protect them. See D.C. v.
Heller. Where does it say ARs are protected?

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be Infringed"

2nd Amendment covers it quite nicely, thank you very much.

'Fraid not. Read Heller.

Read Dred Scott


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:55:50 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:51:34 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:37:51 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:13:48 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
m...

Maybe never. No sex in shotguns. No man cards.

Need big magazine, like big testicles. Military-style gun. Mucho
macho. Look like movie poster. Man-Card gun.
Ed Huntress

Note the leftwinger obsession with Feel instead of Think.

It's "feel" that's going to determine the political outcome. If you
don't get that by now, you're dead on arrival.

Think Feel is more powerful than a 30-30? Think again.

It's more powerful than a .30-30 in YOUR hands, Gunner, because all
you do is bluster with empty threats.

I never make threats.

Doing so is hardly worth the bother. And why would I?

The reality of the fact is..Im nothing more than an observer.

Unless when I tell you "dont jiggle that timber..the mine will cave in
if you do"...you consider it a threat. In which case, you are most
certainly going to die, when the mine caves in. Just hold off jiggling
until Im outside the mine, ok? Then jiggle until the roof collapses
or until you are content. Personally...I hope the roof doesnt cave in,
burying you under tons of stone. We need buffoons like you to be used
as exhibits to show our children, where we can point and sadly shake
our heads as we admonister to them..."dont be like that jiggler, it
will kill you". The difference between you and a baboon is only of
size and scale unfortunately. And the baboon is cuter. Shrug

Making threats is not something I would bother with. Afterall..what
can I threaten someone with? I neither know where you live, nor do I
care. I know its in the eastern Blue zones somewhere. Think Id bother
saving the money up, buying a bus ticket and then traveling out
someplace I have no intel on and trying to find you, then harm you?
Why bother? Someone in your area will ultimately either kill you, or
you will hide until the cull is over. So there is nothing I can say
or do to harm you. Threaten you? Whats the point?

Seriously Edward..you sound like such a dick when you pull that sort
of stupidity.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:58:09 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:55:00 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:50:45 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:22:13 -0600, "Snag" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
Those polls are all run by experts who know exactly how to do a random
sample, Snag. You won't get anywhere by trying to pick holes in them,
except to dig a hole of denial for yourself.

As I said upthread , I neither own nor desire to own an AR-platform weapon
. I also agree with you? whoever it was that said basically that this
particular firearm has been demonized by the MSM .
EEEEEEEeeeeeviiiiillllllllll assault weapon ! Good only for killin'
innercent chirrens and mall shoppers .
I'll just have to make do with Dad's 7.7 Arisaka and my 20 ga bolt shotgun
. Oh , and that bow and arrow set I made from an Osage Orange tree and plum
saplings .

I think you'll be better off. As for the "demonizing," it's the result
of some facts on the ground, some really perverse marketing, and that
sickness I talk about that has infected American gun culture. Of
course the press has picked up on it, particularly the horrific mass
killings in which they have been involved. They cover the news, and
that's been the news.


Yet they somehow ignore their problem children..say..in Chicago..who
killed well over 500 people last year and maimed another 10,000

Uh, Google News says there are 144,000 stories about shootings in
Chicago.

Yes and?

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On 3/4/2013 8:38 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:53:26 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:23:31 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:43:13 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:29:09 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:45:11 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:15:14 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 12:24:55 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
...
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:58:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:

The obnoxious thing about ARs, particularly of those that people
have
bought in the last few months, is that the big attraction is that
they're the best, proven massacre guns on the civilian market.

Ed Huntress

Last week I stopped by the station and took a peek at the local SWAT
team's gear. They've changed from HKs to those 'really ****ty'
massacre guns, short barrel and full auto.

The quote was:

'They're really ****ty guns for any reasonable civilian use:
ammo-sensitive, requiring stunt work to shoot anywhere near the
groups
of a good bolt-action; terrible lock times from early in the last
century, like a 1917 Enfield; in .223, one of the more useless
cartridges for civilian use this side of a .25-20."

Now, if you consider the work of a SWAT team to be a "reasonable
civilian use," you're part of the problem.

Why did you snip that out?

--
Ed Huntress

For Army and Marine veterans the operation of the AR-15 is instinctive
when they jump out of bed from a loud noise in the night. It goes from
safely unloaded to fully ready to shoot in under two seconds. Perhaps
Navy and AF vets and civilians would be better off with a shotgun,
though you can't slap a mag in an unloaded one by feel. I carried a
.45ACP on duty too but didn't train enough with it.
http://everything2.com/title/Perform...at+S.P.O.R.T.S.
jsw

Hmm. Marines. Camo. Slappin' mags. Shoot in two seconds. 'Sounds like
candy for a mass-murdering nutcase.

Which, of course, is why they use them. That's their identity. That's
their attraction. And that's why, in a civilian environment, even in
NORTH FREAKING CAROLINA (poll reported from HPU Survey Research
Center, 2/28/13), more than half of Americans want to ban those
obscene suckers.


Isnt that Pesky 2nd Amendment a total pain in the ass for you Blue
staters and the Media who propagandize so well?

Not at all. The Second Amerndment doesn't protect them. See D.C. v.
Heller. Where does it say ARs are protected?

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be Infringed"

2nd Amendment covers it quite nicely, thank you very much.

'Fraid not. Read Heller.

Read Dred Scott

Nothing to do with the second amendment, gummer.

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:04:13 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .

Treat it like a disease and find out the root causes.
Personally..I suspect we will find its been the pyschotropic meds
that
have been handed out lately by the car load.
Gunner

http://nymag.com/news/features/43892/
"It felt as if the essential barrier between reality and my
imagination had eroded."

Nasty drug. I know someone who attacked her husband and damned near
killed him while on Chantix. Never remembered a thing until she came
to in jail.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner wrote:

Ayup. I've got a Tactical 12ga double barreled shotgun. Only $3500!!


Paint it pink, and a brain damaged lefty will give you $7000 for it.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:42:19 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:21:30 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:02:11 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 11:33:43 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 09:18:56 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:24:23 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:06:00 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:40:31 -0600, "RogerN" wrote:

It seems the bolt carrier group is the hard to get part for AR-15's
currently. I have found old Colt M16 A1 parts kits, "good to excellent"
minus lower receiver and barrel (plus missing auto-sear or disconnector).
Would the M16 bolt carrier group be good in an AR-15?

I found some bolt carrier groups in stock for $300 but the M16 parts kits
are available in the $500 - $600 range, seems to be a better value maybe. I
read a review of one of these parts kits being assembled, they said it was a
good shooter.

RogerN

Jesus. For a poodle shooter? I paid less than that for a classic Black
Beauty Double in 12 gauge, and the forcing cone was even relieved for
star crimps.

What are you going to do with it if you ever finish it?


Im sure he is going to simply "collect it".

He builds it, and then collects it?? "RogernN, maker of collectible
poodle-shooters."

Some people collect Beanie Babies, others collect Hummel porcelein,
others collect rubber bands. A "poodle shooter" has been fine for the
US military (and many other nations) for 50 yrs so far. So whats
your problem?

Made by Roger? That's collectible??

Sure it is. Its work at least $1000. That...is collectable.


Your president has made many large Gifts of them to other nations and
many cartels. You mean he is a cheap ******* for handing them out
like candy?

They're for killing people. That's who gets them -- people who are
going to kill, or threaten to kill, other people. That's what they're
for, that's what they're all about, and that's why they're out there.

Odd..then why are there far far more hammer deaths then AR15 deaths
each year? Are you claiming that Hammers are made for killing people?
Or just tryin to avoid that because it makes you look like an utter
idiot?

You can do a Gunner and use a .25 ACP for poking holes in your leather
belt, too. That doesn't mean it's made for that job.

You mean it doesnt work?

You mean that's what it was made for? Read your paragraphs above and
then try to figure out why you just went around in a circle.

You mean a golf ball wont work as a handle end? It certainly wasnt
made for that use. And co2 beer tanks certainly cant work when
couple to a MIG welder either can they? They certainly wernt made
for that purpose.
Thalidomide certainly cant be used as a cancer treatment or leprosy
treatment. It was brought out to be a sleeping pill. Obviously
everyone who receives it is being mistreated and it should be stopped
immediately!! Sloppy work and the clients are getting half assed
work!!






How about ol' Rog? Besides, he's clearly said that he hopes to use it
for shooting people in the "Second Civil War." That isn't collecting,
unless he's planning to mount their heads for display on his wall.

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

No herd. No line. Just the whistling of wind between your ears.

Ill remember that when the herd breaks and stampedes

VBG

Gunner


The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner wrote:

Aaaah! No more freedom of Speech for Eddy!

Its a disease and should be quarentined!!


Typical attitude for those who live in Roach Motels. All that poison
does terrible things to their tiny minds, and makes them believe they
are 'special'.

Gunner wrote:

Yet they somehow ignore their problem children..say..in Chicago..who
killed well over 500 people last year and maimed another 10,000

Talk about Perverse Marketing....


Eddie should move to Chicago, to show us how safe it is there.
Editors are well known, when it comes to marketing perverse...

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:27:00 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:30:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

What part of "shall not be infringed" requires specific mention of specific
guns?

What part of it says you can have any gun you want?

Denying an arm..is an infringement


"Like most rights, the right secured by the Second Amendment is not
unlimited. From Blackstone through the 19th-century cases,
commentators and courts routinely explained that the right was not a
right to keep and carry any weapon whatsoever in any manner whatsoever
and for whatever purpose." -- D.C. v. Heller, USSC, 2008

As long as you can keep some gun(s) for self-defense, any other
restrictions or bans are pretty much up to legislation. The Court
confirmed this in Heller, without mentioning specific guns. So far,
the only specific type of protected guns are handguns commonly used
for self-defense. The Court implies that guns for other "lawful
purposes," which are in "common use" and not deemed by legislation to
be "dangerous or unusual" would be protected, but there is nothing
specific in this case, or elsewhere in case law, to define those
terms.

That's the way it is. And if you're following the polls, you know that
a majority of the US population considers ARs to be too dangerous to
be allowed. Majorities want to ban them.

"fter going virtually unchallenged for more than one hundred years,
Americans’ right to own guns was one of the hottest political topics
of the second half of the 20th Century. The issue has calmed somewhat
in the early days of the 21st Century, but if history is our guide,
the debate is going nowhere until an inevitable and definitive ruling
is handed down by the nation’s courts: does the Second Amendment apply
to individual citizens?

1791: The Second Amendment is Ratified

The ink had hardly dried on the ratification papers of the
Constitution before a political movement was undertaken to amend the
framing document to declare gun ownership as a right.

A select committee assembled to review amendments proposed by James
Madison authored the language that would become the Second Amendment
to the Bill of Rights: “A well regulated militia, being necessary to
the security of a free state, the right of the people to keep and bear
arms, shall not be infringed.”

1822: Bliss v. Commonwealth Brings ‘Individual Right’ Into Question

The Second Amendment’s intent for individual Americans first came into
question in 1822, in Bliss v. Commonwealth. The court case arose in
Kentucky after a man was indicted for carrying a sword concealed in a
cane. He was convicted and fined $100.

Bliss appealed the conviction, citing a provision in the
Commonwealth’s constitution that states: “The right of the citizens to
bear arms in defense of themselves and the state, shall not be
questioned.”

In a majority vote with just one judge dissenting, the court
overturned the conviction against Bliss and ruled the law
unconstitutional and void.

1856: Dred Scott v. Sandford Upholds Individual Right

The Second Amendment as an individual right was affirmed by the
Supreme Court of the United States in its decision in Dred Scott v.
Sandford in 1856. With the rights of slaves in question, the nation’s
highest court opined on the intent of the Second Amendment for the
first time, writing that affording slaves full rights of American
citizenship would include the right “to keep and carry arms wherever
they went.”

1934: National Firearms Act Brings About First Major Gun Control

The first major effort to eliminate private ownership of firearms came
with the National Firearms Act of 1934. A direct response of the rise
of gangster violence in general, and the Saint Valentine’s Day
massacre in particular, the National Firearms Act sought to circumvent
the Second Amendment by controlling firearms through a tax excise
($200 for each gun sale).

The National Firearms Act targeted fully-automatic weapons,
short-barreled shotguns and rifles, pen and cane guns, and other
firearms defined as “gangster weapons.”

1938: Federal Firearms Act Requires License for Dealers

The Federal Firearms Act of 1938 required anyone selling or shipping
firearms to be licensed through the U.S. Department of Commerce. The
Federal Firearms License (FFL) stipulated that guns could not be sold
to persons convicted of certain crimes and required sellers to log the
names and addresses of anyone they sold guns to.

1968: Gun Control Act Ushers In New Regulations

Thirty years after America’s first sweeping reform of gun laws, the
assassination of President John F. Kennedy helped to usher in new
federal legislation with wide-ranging implications. The Gun Control
Act of 1968 prohibited mail order sales of rifles and shotguns,
increased license requirements for sellers and broadened the list of
persons prohibited from owning a firearm to include convicted felons,
drug users and the mentally incompetent.

1994: Brady Act and Assault Weapons Ban

Two new federal laws passed by a Democrat-controlled Congress and
signed by President Bill Clinton in 1994 became the hallmark of gun
control efforts of the latter 20th Century.

The first, the Brady Handgun Violence Protection Act, required a
five-day waiting period and background check for the sale of handguns,
while also requiring a National Instant Criminal Background Check
System to be created. The second, the Assault Weapons Ban (officially
entitled the Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act) banned a
number of rifles defined as “assault weapons,” including many
semi-automatic, military-style rifles such as the AK-47 and SKS.

2004: Assault Weapons Ban Sunsets

A Republican-controlled Congress refused to pass a reauthorization of
the Assault Weapons Ban in 2004, allowing the ban to expire. President
George W. Bush was criticized by gun control supporters for not
actively pressuring Congress to renew the ban, while gun rights
supporters criticized him for indicating that he would sign a
reauthorization if Congress passed it.

2008: D.C. v. Heller is a Major Setback for Gun Control

Gun rights proponents were thrilled in 2008 when the U.S. Supreme
Court ruled in District of Columbia v. Heller that the Second
Amendment extends gun ownership rights to individuals. The decision
affirmed an earlier decision by a lower appeals court and struck down
handgun bans in Washington D.C. as unconstitutional.

The case was lauded as the first Supreme Court case to affirm the
right of an individual to keep and bear arms in accordance with the
Second Amendment. However, the ruling applied only to federal
enclaves, such as the District of Columbia. Justices did not opine on
the Second Amendment’s application to the states.

2010: Gun Owners Score Another Victory in McDonald v. Chicago

Gun rights supporters scored their second major Supreme Court victory
in 2010, when the high court affirmed the individual right to own guns
in McDonald v. Chicago.

The ruling, which was an inevitable follow-up to D.C. v. Heller,
marked the first time that the Supreme Court ruled the provisions of
the Second Amendment extend to the states. The ruling overturned an
earlier decision by a lower court in a legal challenge to Chicago’s
ordinance banning the possession of handguns by its citizens."

Odd that there was a 133 yr span between 1791 and 1934 when the
Leftists had no say in Infringing the 2nd Amendment.

Fast Eddie seems to gloss over the fact that Heller/McDonald removed
a few..a few... of the restrictions placed on Americans since
1934..but not all of them.

He claims that Heller was a Miracle! New Constitutional Rights never
before seen in this country!!!

And now he encourages more restrictions to be replaced back on
Americans again.

Funny that, eh wot?

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.
--
pyotr filipivich
Denial is not a river in Egypt, "Denial is a save-now-pay-later scheme,
a contract written entirely in small print, for in the long run, the
denying person knows the truth on some level." LTC Grossman.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:14:08 -0600, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

While some of
these individuals were marginal in that they drank far too
much, and a few were involved in petty crime, none exhibited
the bizarre behavior of latest veterans. It is highly
doubtful the gene pool changed in a generation, so something
else must have occurred. One of the more obvious changes is
the proliferation of legal and illegal psychoactive drugs,
far beyond sedatives and pain pills.


Bravo!!!

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:22:31 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Read it again and again..and remember where DC is.

Right! And check out the latest Fox News poll to see what *real*
Americans think about banning ARs and other semi-automatic weapons. In
the poll, 54% to 42% want to...uh...ummm................ban them.

sob!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...d-gun-control/

January 18th is the latest poll?

Forget the opinion polls. Take a look at the only poll which
really matters - the number of sales. That literally is people
putting their money where their mouth is.
The Democrats have bought into yet another non-starter. Which is
only fair, as they seem to not be able to get anything important done.
Like passing a budget. Reducing crime. Paving streets.

--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

Larry Jaques wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 11:39:16 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

Eddie is a BlueStater from the East Coast. You will have to judge
his postings based on that fact. Sadly

Ed is a poodle. 'Nuff said?


More like a puddle.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:26:08 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner wrote:

Aaaah! No more freedom of Speech for Eddy!

Its a disease and should be quarentined!!


Typical attitude for those who live in Roach Motels. All that poison
does terrible things to their tiny minds, and makes them believe they
are 'special'.

One assumes that in Eddies case..his palatial home was built on a
toxic waste dump from the 1930s.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:27:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

snip
Eddie should move to Chicago, to show us how safe it is there.
Editors are well known, when it comes to marketing perverse...
snip

Another example of not letting the facts get in the way of a
good story. While the homicide rate in Chicago is indeed
high, it is no where near first place.

On the bases of the homicide rate per 100k of population,
among the major metro areas, Chicago (population 2,703,713)
is not the leader with 15.9/100k, rather New Orleans LA
(population 346,974) with 57.6/100k [3.6X] is, and Detroit
(population 713,239) with 48.2/100k [3.0X] is the runner up.

For cites and my action item proposal to my Federal
legislators to do something about this growing problem see

http://mcduffee-associates.us/DROP%20BOX/curfew.pdf

This proposal has the advantage of applying restrictions
where they are required, only where they are required, is
activated/suspended by objective numerical data, and should
have minimal federal taxpayer cost. Unless you are running
a gin mill or biker bar in the war zones, what's not to
like?


--
Unka' George

"Gold is the money of kings,
silver is the money of gentlemen,
barter is the money of peasants,
but debt is the money of slaves"

-Norm Franz, "Money and Wealth in the New Millenium"

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:46:12 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.

Leftwingers refuse to bleeve in the Great Cull ie the Second American
Revolution. And for the same reason. The thought that they will be
singled out by strangers and killed because the leftwinger is an
"enemy, both foreign and domestic" tends to make their minds go off on
wild tangents out of fear and aversion. Shrug

Its long past the time of "peaceful co-existance" with Lefties. Its
almost time to simply clear them out. Like fumigating a home for
termites. If one lets the termites go much longer..the house will
totally collapse. So either one gives up the house..or kills the
termites. Its far too late to do a half assed job of prevention.

Unfortunately.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On 3/4/2013 10:44 AM, Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:27:00 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 4 Mar 2013 09:30:10 -0500, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

What part of "shall not be infringed" requires specific mention of specific
guns?

What part of it says you can have any gun you want?

Denying an arm..is an infringement

No - not if the right never was intended for you to be able to keep and
bear *that* arm.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:46:12 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.

?? Do you hold contradicting conversations with yourself often?

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:21:24 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner wrote:

Ayup. I've got a Tactical 12ga double barreled shotgun. Only $3500!!


Paint it pink, and a brain damaged lefty will give you $7000 for it.

And put a dolly on the buttstock! Brilliant!!!

http://reisman.lohudblogs.com/files/...KittyRifle.jpg

Thats a California Legal AR btw.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:50:04 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:22:31 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

Read it again and again..and remember where DC is.

Right! And check out the latest Fox News poll to see what *real*
Americans think about banning ARs and other semi-automatic weapons. In
the poll, 54% to 42% want to...uh...ummm................ban them.

sob!

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/inte...d-gun-control/

January 18th is the latest poll?

Forget the opinion polls. Take a look at the only poll which
really matters - the number of sales. That literally is people
putting their money where their mouth is.
The Democrats have bought into yet another non-starter. Which is
only fair, as they seem to not be able to get anything important done.
Like passing a budget. Reducing crime. Paving streets.

--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."


BIG gold star!! Even I cant get primers right now unless they are
Russian made.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:21:36 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:42:19 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:21:30 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:02:11 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 11:33:43 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 09:18:56 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:24:23 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:06:00 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:40:31 -0600, "RogerN" wrote:

It seems the bolt carrier group is the hard to get part for AR-15's
currently. I have found old Colt M16 A1 parts kits, "good to excellent"
minus lower receiver and barrel (plus missing auto-sear or disconnector).
Would the M16 bolt carrier group be good in an AR-15?

I found some bolt carrier groups in stock for $300 but the M16 parts kits
are available in the $500 - $600 range, seems to be a better value maybe. I
read a review of one of these parts kits being assembled, they said it was a
good shooter.

RogerN

Jesus. For a poodle shooter? I paid less than that for a classic Black
Beauty Double in 12 gauge, and the forcing cone was even relieved for
star crimps.

What are you going to do with it if you ever finish it?


Im sure he is going to simply "collect it".

He builds it, and then collects it?? "RogernN, maker of collectible
poodle-shooters."

Some people collect Beanie Babies, others collect Hummel porcelein,
others collect rubber bands. A "poodle shooter" has been fine for the
US military (and many other nations) for 50 yrs so far. So whats
your problem?

Made by Roger? That's collectible??

Sure it is. Its work at least $1000. That...is collectable.


Your president has made many large Gifts of them to other nations and
many cartels. You mean he is a cheap ******* for handing them out
like candy?

They're for killing people. That's who gets them -- people who are
going to kill, or threaten to kill, other people. That's what they're
for, that's what they're all about, and that's why they're out there.

Odd..then why are there far far more hammer deaths then AR15 deaths
each year? Are you claiming that Hammers are made for killing people?
Or just tryin to avoid that because it makes you look like an utter
idiot?

You can do a Gunner and use a .25 ACP for poking holes in your leather
belt, too. That doesn't mean it's made for that job.

You mean it doesnt work?

You mean that's what it was made for? Read your paragraphs above and
then try to figure out why you just went around in a circle.

You mean a golf ball wont work as a handle end?

No, idiot. I mean like hammers aren't made for killing people, anymore
than .25 autos are made for punching holes in leather belts. But
either one will work.

Are you having trouble following your own points these days? I don't
remember you being so out of it.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:55:08 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:58:09 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:55:00 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 18:50:45 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 17:22:13 -0600, "Snag" wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
Those polls are all run by experts who know exactly how to do a random
sample, Snag. You won't get anywhere by trying to pick holes in them,
except to dig a hole of denial for yourself.

As I said upthread , I neither own nor desire to own an AR-platform weapon
. I also agree with you? whoever it was that said basically that this
particular firearm has been demonized by the MSM .
EEEEEEEeeeeeviiiiillllllllll assault weapon ! Good only for killin'
innercent chirrens and mall shoppers .
I'll just have to make do with Dad's 7.7 Arisaka and my 20 ga bolt shotgun
. Oh , and that bow and arrow set I made from an Osage Orange tree and plum
saplings .

I think you'll be better off. As for the "demonizing," it's the result
of some facts on the ground, some really perverse marketing, and that
sickness I talk about that has infected American gun culture. Of
course the press has picked up on it, particularly the horrific mass
killings in which they have been involved. They cover the news, and
that's been the news.


Yet they somehow ignore their problem children..say..in Chicago..who
killed well over 500 people last year and maimed another 10,000

Uh, Google News says there are 144,000 stories about shootings in
Chicago.

Yes and?

?? Gunner, you just said that the media is ignoring the killings in
Chicago. I pointed out that the media have been covering it like
crazy.

Can't you hold it together from one paragraph to the next anymore?

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:54:34 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:55:50 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:51:34 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 16:37:51 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 16:13:48 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
om...

Maybe never. No sex in shotguns. No man cards.

Need big magazine, like big testicles. Military-style gun. Mucho
macho. Look like movie poster. Man-Card gun.
Ed Huntress

Note the leftwinger obsession with Feel instead of Think.

It's "feel" that's going to determine the political outcome. If you
don't get that by now, you're dead on arrival.

Think Feel is more powerful than a 30-30? Think again.

It's more powerful than a .30-30 in YOUR hands, Gunner, because all
you do is bluster with empty threats.

I never make threats.

Sure you do. You put people on the "cull" list all the time, telling
them that your friends are going to kill them.

Which, of course, is an idiotic and child-like thing to say, which
most people grow out of before they're 12, but, hey, that never
stopped you before. d8-)

--
Ed Huntress



Doing so is hardly worth the bother. And why would I?

The reality of the fact is..Im nothing more than an observer.

Unless when I tell you "dont jiggle that timber..the mine will cave in
if you do"...you consider it a threat. In which case, you are most
certainly going to die, when the mine caves in. Just hold off jiggling
until Im outside the mine, ok? Then jiggle until the roof collapses
or until you are content. Personally...I hope the roof doesnt cave in,
burying you under tons of stone. We need buffoons like you to be used
as exhibits to show our children, where we can point and sadly shake
our heads as we admonister to them..."dont be like that jiggler, it
will kill you". The difference between you and a baboon is only of
size and scale unfortunately. And the baboon is cuter. Shrug

Making threats is not something I would bother with. Afterall..what
can I threaten someone with? I neither know where you live, nor do I
care. I know its in the eastern Blue zones somewhere. Think Id bother
saving the money up, buying a bus ticket and then traveling out
someplace I have no intel on and trying to find you, then harm you?
Why bother? Someone in your area will ultimately either kill you, or
you will hide until the cull is over. So there is nothing I can say
or do to harm you. Threaten you? Whats the point?

Seriously Edward..you sound like such a dick when you pull that sort
of stupidity.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:38:20 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:53:26 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:23:31 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:43:13 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:29:09 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 14:45:11 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 13:15:14 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
news:k227j812i8iont4r5btdhv878ko9nu4bve@4ax .com...
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 12:24:55 -0500, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:

"Ed Huntress" wrote in message
news:35t6j81f4e5lrcaj2bspdnu3u54e2aniih@4 ax.com...
On Sun, 3 Mar 2013 07:58:13 -0800 (PST), wrote:

The obnoxious thing about ARs, particularly of those that people
have
bought in the last few months, is that the big attraction is that
they're the best, proven massacre guns on the civilian market.

Ed Huntress

Last week I stopped by the station and took a peek at the local SWAT
team's gear. They've changed from HKs to those 'really ****ty'
massacre guns, short barrel and full auto.

The quote was:

'They're really ****ty guns for any reasonable civilian use:
ammo-sensitive, requiring stunt work to shoot anywhere near the
groups
of a good bolt-action; terrible lock times from early in the last
century, like a 1917 Enfield; in .223, one of the more useless
cartridges for civilian use this side of a .25-20."

Now, if you consider the work of a SWAT team to be a "reasonable
civilian use," you're part of the problem.

Why did you snip that out?

--
Ed Huntress

For Army and Marine veterans the operation of the AR-15 is instinctive
when they jump out of bed from a loud noise in the night. It goes from
safely unloaded to fully ready to shoot in under two seconds. Perhaps
Navy and AF vets and civilians would be better off with a shotgun,
though you can't slap a mag in an unloaded one by feel. I carried a
.45ACP on duty too but didn't train enough with it.
http://everything2.com/title/Perform...at+S.P.O.R.T.S.
jsw

Hmm. Marines. Camo. Slappin' mags. Shoot in two seconds. 'Sounds like
candy for a mass-murdering nutcase.

Which, of course, is why they use them. That's their identity. That's
their attraction. And that's why, in a civilian environment, even in
NORTH FREAKING CAROLINA (poll reported from HPU Survey Research
Center, 2/28/13), more than half of Americans want to ban those
obscene suckers.


Isnt that Pesky 2nd Amendment a total pain in the ass for you Blue
staters and the Media who propagandize so well?

Not at all. The Second Amerndment doesn't protect them. See D.C. v.
Heller. Where does it say ARs are protected?

"The Right of the People to Keep and Bear Arms shall not be Infringed"

2nd Amendment covers it quite nicely, thank you very much.

'Fraid not. Read Heller.

Read Dred Scott

You mean, black people in America are not citizens?

Yo need to brush up with your copy of the Big Golden Book of American
History, Gunner.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:18:31 -0600, F. George McDuffee
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:27:58 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:

snip
Eddie should move to Chicago, to show us how safe it is there.
Editors are well known, when it comes to marketing perverse...
snip

Another example of not letting the facts get in the way of a
good story. While the homicide rate in Chicago is indeed
high, it is no where near first place.

On the bases of the homicide rate per 100k of population,
among the major metro areas, Chicago (population 2,703,713)
is not the leader with 15.9/100k, rather New Orleans LA
(population 346,974) with 57.6/100k [3.6X] is, and Detroit
(population 713,239) with 48.2/100k [3.0X] is the runner up.

HEY! Don't forget Camden, New Jersey! We're in there too. (46.8 per
100,000)

Louisianna has pushed NJ down to third place for political corruption,
but we're fighting back with Camden on city crime stats. We'll show
'em.

http://www.usa.com/camden-nj-crime-and-crime-rate.htm

--
Ed Huntress



For cites and my action item proposal to my Federal
legislators to do something about this growing problem see

http://mcduffee-associates.us/DROP%20BOX/curfew.pdf

This proposal has the advantage of applying restrictions
where they are required, only where they are required, is
activated/suspended by objective numerical data, and should
have minimal federal taxpayer cost. Unless you are running
a gin mill or biker bar in the war zones, what's not to
like?

Gunner wrote:

Odd..then why are there far far more hammer deaths then AR15 deaths
each year? Are you claiming that Hammers are made for killing people?
Or just tryin to avoid that because it makes you look like an utter
idiot?


How about the people who die due to sloppy editing? Should we ban
all editors, or just the assault editors like sloppy eddie?


When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Seems like a couple magazines fired into the foremost line of the herd
could get a pretty good breakwater up, dont you think?


That works to stop, or at least slow a cattle stampede.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:27:25 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:46:12 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.

?? Do you hold contradicting conversations with yourself often?

He's a posting MACHINE! A long time ago he figured out how to cut out
the middleman by contradicting himself in the same post. Now he's down
to a short paragraph and he's only a comma away from doing it in a
single sentence.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:32:46 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:21:36 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:42:19 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:


You can do a Gunner and use a .25 ACP for poking holes in your leather
belt, too. That doesn't mean it's made for that job.

You mean it doesnt work?

You mean that's what it was made for? Read your paragraphs above and
then try to figure out why you just went around in a circle.

You mean a golf ball wont work as a handle end?

No, idiot. I mean like hammers aren't made for killing people, anymore
than .25 autos are made for punching holes in leather belts. But
either one will work.

Are you having trouble following your own points these days? I don't
remember you being so out of it.

I sure do. He's always been confused, crazy, ill informed, and living
an entirely different life in his mind. Maybe there was a time decades
ago when a charitable person might have chalked up Gunner's problems
to bad luck or whatever, but those days are long gone.

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 12:34:56 -0800, whoyakidding's ghost
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:27:25 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:46:12 -0800, pyotr filipivich
wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.

?? Do you hold contradicting conversations with yourself often?

He's a posting MACHINE! A long time ago he figured out how to cut out
the middleman by contradicting himself in the same post. Now he's down
to a short paragraph and he's only a comma away from doing it in a
single sentence.

heh Maybe I'm misjudging the whole thing. This could be some kind of
Deconstructionist literature, and I just don't recognize it...

--
Ed Huntress

Gunner wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:26:08 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner wrote:

Aaaah! No more freedom of Speech for Eddy!

Its a disease and should be quarentined!!


Typical attitude for those who live in Roach Motels. All that poison
does terrible things to their tiny minds, and makes them believe they
are 'special'.

One assumes that in Eddies case..his palatial home was built on a
toxic waste dump from the 1930s.


And then a new toxic dump was built on top of the house.

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.


He just doesn't think they will stampede through his huge piles of
steaming bull****.

These words (indented below) are fine, as
written.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..

"Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...

It's ironic that the most supposedly civilized environment induces
the
most primitive fear and helplessness.

Please paraphrase it into your own words. I'm rarely satisfied with
how I write but my cheap dialup ISP disconnects if I take too long
editing.
jsw

"Michael A. Terrell" on Mon, 04 Mar 2013
16:47:15 -0500 typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Gunner on Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800 typed
in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:

When the Great Cull happens..and it will...VBG..one will need
something to defend oneself from those rampaging herds of stampeding
Leftwingers. One could use an AR to shoot enough of them to get a
good pile going so you can hide behind it and not be trampled by them.

Phwew. It must be dark and scary in there, Gunner, in that vacant lot
between your ears. d8-)

Why Eddie..are you afraid you will be first in line in the stampeding
herd?

He's afraid he's going to be one of those trampled in the
stampede. Which he doesn't believe will happen, anyway.


He just doesn't think they will stampede through his huge piles of
steaming bull****.

Is that why he is producing so much - stockpiling it for the Great
Stampede?

Well, if you';re not the first cow, the scenery never changes.

--
pyotr filipivich
"With Age comes Wisdom. Although more often, Age travels alone."

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 11:28:07 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 13:21:24 -0500, "Michael A. Terrell"
wrote:


Gunner wrote:

Ayup. I've got a Tactical 12ga double barreled shotgun. Only $3500!!


Paint it pink, and a brain damaged lefty will give you $7000 for it.

And put a dolly on the buttstock! Brilliant!!!

http://reisman.lohudblogs.com/files/...KittyRifle.jpg

Thats a California Legal AR btw.

I prefer the 7.62 Hello Kalashnikitty, myself. This one is only a
grand! http://www.glamguns.com/hk47.html

--
If more sane people were armed,
crazy people would get off fewer shots.
Support the 2nd Amendment

pyotr filipivich wrote:

Michael A. Terrell wrote:

He just doesn't think they will stampede through his huge piles
of steaming bull****.

Is that why he is producing so much - stockpiling it for the Great
Stampede?

Well, if you';re not the first cow, the scenery never changes.


Just the altitude.

"Tom Gardner" wrote in message
...
On 3/3/2013 4:27 PM, Snag wrote:
Ed Huntress wrote:
On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 12:29:09 -0800, Gunner
wrote:
Isnt that Pesky 2nd Amendment a total pain in the ass for you Blue
staters and the Media who propagandize so well?

Not at all. The Second Amerndment doesn't protect them. See D.C. v.
Heller. Where does it say ARs are protected?

Actually Gunner , he's just expressing his opinion of one particular
model
of semi-auto rifle . While I see the utility value of a semi-auto for
certain situations ... I do not now own nor do I plan on purchasing an
AR15/M16 clone . It's long been my opinion that they're not worth the
asking
price TO ME . 5.56 MM is designed to WOUND , which ties up a lot more
resources and personnel than outright killing . While that is acceptable
and
in fact desirable in a military action , I for one do not want a bunch of
wounded guys hollerin' out in the front yard . Not only will that attract
more pests , it may very well disturb my sleep . I like .30 cal minimum
for
defense ...
Now before y'all jump on me for "wanting to mow 'em down as they
attack"
let me just say that that is ONE scenario , which if I get my stuff right
will never happen . I'd much rather slip away unseen and unheard than
have
an armed confrontation . Actually , where I'm moving to pretty much
everybody is of a like mind , rendering the point moot . Country boy can
survive ...


I won't own an AR either but I know a lot of people that use them in

I do.

competitions and I defend the spirit of the SA. It's not unreasonable

Competition and target practic is but a simulation, these guns have but one
purpose; to kill as many people as possible in the shortest amount of time.

to want or own an AR or an AK just because they look mean to leftists

Leftists aren't the ones buying tha vast majority, last I checked.

and are used in .012% of murders. To prevent gun crime, keep guns out

Of potential criminals, period.

of the hands of those that commit gun crimes...leftists!

But but...leftists are anti-gun....circular logic....they want to do away
with guns...make up your ( ****ing warped ) mind...

(plonk)

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:03:03 PM UTC-8, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:12:44 -0600, "RogerN" wrote:



"Ed Huntress" wrote in message

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Ed,

The more I read your stuff, it seems like your real issue is
that you don't care for the way people like Roger and Gunner think.

I rarely agree with Gunner's philosophicla statements.

Those guys aren't the problem. They may "jabber" a bit, but
**** Roger has a hobby and Gunner didn't go down and join his
hero in LA.

Tell the truth, this really isn't about guns for you is it?

Now this is truth,(re Lanza):

More likely he didn't know that, but was thorougly lost in his insane
state of mind ....

My suggestion is to focus on the mental health issue if you really want to contribute to a solution. How about working as a target instructor in the ghetto?

After all, in all your experience with guns, have you ever seen one pop up
and charge itself??? I'll bet not.

Fix the broken people.

Have a good one.

On Thu, 7 Mar 2013 08:29:26 -0800 (PST), wrote:

On Wednesday, March 6, 2013 9:03:03 PM UTC-8, Ed Huntress wrote:
On Wed, 6 Mar 2013 19:12:44 -0600, "RogerN" wrote:



"Ed Huntress" wrote in message

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Ed,

The more I read your stuff, it seems like your real issue is
that you don't care for the way people like Roger and Gunner think.

Well, that's true, but there are many factual issues involved, too.


I rarely agree with Gunner's philosophicla statements.

Those guys aren't the problem. They may "jabber" a bit, but
**** Roger has a hobby and Gunner didn't go down and join his
hero in LA.

Tell the truth, this really isn't about guns for you is it?

No, it's about guns, the culture of gun use and ownership in this
country, my experience growing up with a healthy culture of hunting
and target shooting, and watching it degenerate during the 54 years
I've been a gun owner.

I like hunting and shooting, and it upsets me to see it all become so
divisive and polarized. The latest round of polls is alarming to me.


Now this is truth,(re Lanza):

More likely he didn't know that, but was thorougly lost in his insane
state of mind ....

My suggestion is to focus on the mental health issue if you really want to contribute to a solution.

I made my contribution 20 years ago. I can no longer support the NRA
or any of the extreme gun postures. They are counterproductive and
they are doomed. We all may wind up paying for it.

As for the mental health issue, that one is DOA. The main problem with
it now is that many, maybe most, states are not incorporating the
existing mental health data in their NICS databases. It was an
unfunded mandate and the states just didn't do it.

That's how the Virginia Tech shooter got through. The records were
there but Virginia didn't have them in their NICS database.

I don't know about Loughner. Maybe it was the same thing, or maybe
not.

As for Lanza, he apparently was a peaceful autism-spectrum kid. We
haven't heard everything yet, but it appears there was nothing in his
background that would suggest he was a bomb ready to go off. Just
guessing, but I suspect undiagnosed schizophrenia. Or maybe it was
just a weird interaction between autism and some less extreme
condition. Autism can mask a lot of things. No improvement to the
mental health system will improve the basic science itself.

The mass-murdering nutcases create the drama, but in terms of numbers
of murders, they're a drop in the bucket. And I see no way to prevent
those dramatic cases by increasing mental-health scrutiny. What are
you going to do, subject every gun owner to a mental health test? They
just passed a law that would do that through the NJ Assembly. It is
going nowhere, of course.

Certainly we should improve scrutiny and find ways to firm up the
collection of mental health data for NICS. I'm all for it All it will
take is money. Whose money? Where do you think that one is going?

And it will do very little, in any case. It also will unleash
litigation up the kazoo. "How dare you say my client is nuts?"

I think you're missing some key things: One is that regulations do not
ban guns -- or they don't have to. I live in a state that's almost
Class 3 for handguns, and fairly difficult for long guns. It's just
paperwork. It hasn't stopped me from buying guns.

When that is done right, and if it was done at the national level so
that state lines are not an escape route for gun criminals, a good
program would stop a lot more criminals from private purchases; make
straw purchases very risky, with jail time in the balance; and even,
potentially, reduce outright thefts from burglary.

Nothing will completely choke off the supply of guns to criminals and
loons, but evidence suggests that it could be squeezed pretty hard.

How about working as a target instructor in the ghetto?

Is that a joke? Where would you find a range, at the YMCA? d8-)


After all, in all your experience with guns, have you ever seen one pop up
and charge itself??? I'll bet not.

I'm not sure there is a connection. They can be made easy enough to
shoot.


Fix the broken people.

Have you thought through how you would implement this?


Have a good one.

You, too.

--
Ed Huntress

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 14:32:46 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:21:36 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 10:32:30 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 06:03:56 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 08:42:19 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Mon, 04 Mar 2013 01:21:30 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 15:02:11 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 11:33:43 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 09:18:56 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 02 Mar 2013 23:24:23 -0800, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 03 Mar 2013 00:06:00 -0500, Ed Huntress
wrote:

On Sat, 2 Mar 2013 22:40:31 -0600, "RogerN" wrote:

It seems the bolt carrier group is the hard to get part for AR-15's
currently. I have found old Colt M16 A1 parts kits, "good to excellent"
minus lower receiver and barrel (plus missing auto-sear or disconnector).
Would the M16 bolt carrier group be good in an AR-15?

I found some bolt carrier groups in stock for $300 but the M16 parts kits
are available in the $500 - $600 range, seems to be a better value maybe. I
read a review of one of these parts kits being assembled, they said it was a
good shooter.

RogerN

Jesus. For a poodle shooter? I paid less than that for a classic Black
Beauty Double in 12 gauge, and the forcing cone was even relieved for
star crimps.

What are you going to do with it if you ever finish it?


Im sure he is going to simply "collect it".

He builds it, and then collects it?? "RogernN, maker of collectible
poodle-shooters."

Some people collect Beanie Babies, others collect Hummel porcelein,
others collect rubber bands. A "poodle shooter" has been fine for the
US military (and many other nations) for 50 yrs so far. So whats
your problem?

Made by Roger? That's collectible??

Sure it is. Its work at least $1000. That...is collectable.


Your president has made many large Gifts of them to other nations and
many cartels. You mean he is a cheap ******* for handing them out
like candy?

They're for killing people. That's who gets them -- people who are
going to kill, or threaten to kill, other people. That's what they're
for, that's what they're all about, and that's why they're out there.

Odd..then why are there far far more hammer deaths then AR15 deaths
each year? Are you claiming that Hammers are made for killing people?
Or just tryin to avoid that because it makes you look like an utter
idiot?

You can do a Gunner and use a .25 ACP for poking holes in your leather
belt, too. That doesn't mean it's made for that job.

You mean it doesnt work?

You mean that's what it was made for? Read your paragraphs above and
then try to figure out why you just went around in a circle.

You mean a golf ball wont work as a handle end?

No, idiot. I mean like hammers aren't made for killing people, anymore
than .25 autos are made for punching holes in leather belts. But
either one will work.

Are you having trouble following your own points these days? I don't
remember you being so out of it.

Odd..I was thinking you were the victim of your advancing senile
dementia.

Gunner

The methodology of the left has always been:

1. Lie
2. Repeat the lie as many times as possible
3. Have as many people repeat the lie as often as possible
4. Eventually, the uninformed believe the lie
5. The lie will then be made into some form oflaw
6. Then everyone must conform to the lie