So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks, that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...

On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks, that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...



How big are those carboys? Say, how many gallons of sulfuric acid are
you planning to carry at any one time?

"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks,
that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll
wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...



How big are those carboys? Say, how many gallons of sulfuric acid are
you planning to carry at any one time?

They're only 5 gallons each and I have two, but this is nasty stuff that you
don't want spilling inside a vehicle, or even on a pickup truck bed. The
smell would probably never leave even if it didn't eat through the deck. I
also plan to use the cargo carrier to carry my wet kiteboarding gear...

On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:

"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks,
that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll
wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...



How big are those carboys? Say, how many gallons of sulfuric acid are
you planning to carry at any one time?

They're only 5 gallons each and I have two, but this is nasty stuff that you
don't want spilling inside a vehicle, or even on a pickup truck bed. The
smell would probably never leave even if it didn't eat through the deck. I
also plan to use the cargo carrier to carry my wet kiteboarding gear...



If you carry more than 440 lbs of it, you will need a hazmat placard
and have a CDL with hazmat endorsement.

"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:

"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday
to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks,
that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my
back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll
wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...



How big are those carboys? Say, how many gallons of sulfuric acid are
you planning to carry at any one time?

They're only 5 gallons each and I have two, but this is nasty stuff that
you
don't want spilling inside a vehicle, or even on a pickup truck bed. The
smell would probably never leave even if it didn't eat through the deck.
I
also plan to use the cargo carrier to carry my wet kiteboarding gear...



If you carry more than 440 lbs of it, you will need a hazmat placard
and have a CDL with hazmat endorsement.

Not likely, it's for cesspool maintenance at my house. $20 per five, it's
the same stuff the cesspool companies use.

In article ,
says...

"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks,
that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll
wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...



How big are those carboys? Say, how many gallons of sulfuric acid are
you planning to carry at any one time?

They're only 5 gallons each and I have two, but this is nasty stuff that you
don't want spilling inside a vehicle, or even on a pickup truck bed. The
smell would probably never leave even if it didn't eat through the deck. I
also plan to use the cargo carrier to carry my wet kiteboarding gear...

Just make sure that you have it well secured. You don't want the
lawsuit if it comes adrift and the contents land in the convertible
behind you.

"ATP" writes:

Meanwhile I'm filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with
scrap metal...

I've got bad news. As far as I know, HF stores do not barter.



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"David Lesher" wrote in message
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"ATP" writes:

Meanwhile I'm filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with
scrap metal...

I've got bad news. As far as I know, HF stores do not barter.

Maybe not, but steel is fetching about thirteen cents a pound.

Rochester, NY got their first HF stores, two or three years ago. Cram pack
with Chinky junky, and everything goes on sale if you wait long enough.

For sulfuric acid, you gonna trust that on a low bidder Chinky trailer
hitch? Or are you getting a good quality one? Like the other writer says.
Tie it good, so you don't flip a carboy of sulfuric into the convertible
that's tailgating you. Well, on the other hand......

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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"ATP" wrote in message
...
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time yesterday to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks, that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think I'll wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:26:31 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Rochester, NY got their first HF stores, two or three years ago. Cram pack
with Chinky junky, and everything goes on sale if you wait long enough.

For sulfuric acid, you gonna trust that on a low bidder Chinky trailer
hitch? Or are you getting a good quality one? Like the other writer says.
Tie it good, so you don't flip a carboy of sulfuric into the convertible
that's tailgating you. Well, on the other hand......

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org

Ah, maybe somebody else can't stand horrible fright. It all looks
chinky junky to me. i don't shop there.

karl

"Gunner Asch" wrote in message
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On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 13:09:08 -0400, "ATP"
wrote:


"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
om...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:

"Ignoramus3716" wrote in message
...
On 2012-03-25, ATP wrote:
So now we have local HF stores. I visited for the first time
yesterday
to
acquire a hitch mounted cargo carrier for the purpose of transporting
carboys full of sulfuric acid and other cargo, such as propane tanks,
that
shouldn't ride in the back of an SUV. Although I am currently trying
to
reduce the amount of commercial/industrial tools and material in my
back
yard, the 1 ton Gantry Crane looked mighty sweet :-) But I think
I'll
wait
and pour a concrete slab area in front of my shop first. Meanwhile
I'm
filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with scrap metal...



How big are those carboys? Say, how many gallons of sulfuric acid are
you planning to carry at any one time?

They're only 5 gallons each and I have two, but this is nasty stuff
that
you
don't want spilling inside a vehicle, or even on a pickup truck bed.
The
smell would probably never leave even if it didn't eat through the
deck.
I
also plan to use the cargo carrier to carry my wet kiteboarding gear...



If you carry more than 440 lbs of it, you will need a hazmat placard
and have a CDL with hazmat endorsement.

Not likely, it's for cesspool maintenance at my house. $20 per five, it's
the same stuff the cesspool companies use.

I do exactly the same thing once a year, but Ive got a verticle dry
well

Gunner

I made a pipe up for aerating it, it's amazing how the bottom forms a crust.

David Lesher on Sun, 25 Mar 2012 18:19:13 +0000
(UTC) typed in rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
"ATP" writes:

Meanwhile I'm filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with
scrap metal...

I've got bad news. As far as I know, HF stores do not barter.

You mean, they won't take scrap for their crap?

Bummer ...


(Just kidding)

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you are a bloody fool, only an ignorant cretin would even ask the
question, forty two, 47, the second door, and how many blonde lawyers
does it take to change a lightbulb.

On Sun, 25 Mar 2012 15:26:31 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Rochester, NY got their first HF stores, two or three years ago. Cram pack
with Chinky junky, and everything goes on sale if you wait long enough.


Hey Stormin, I forgot you were in Rochester. I was just up there last
Saturday to buy the South Bend shaper that was on Craigslist. The guy
still has a Rockwell tool & cutter grinder that's in decent shape and
an Induma knee mill. 3.5 hour drive each way from central PA up
there.

On Mar 25, 4:49*pm, Karl Townsend
wrote:

Ah, maybe somebody else can't stand horrible fright. It all looks
chinky junky to me. i don't shop there.

karl

It really depends on the item. Not everything is from China. They
have some combination wrenches from India, grinding wheels from
Russia. And some things from China are good. Most everything is
worth the price they sell it for and a few things are worth more than
the price. But you are right, a lot of what they sell is not what you
really want for everyday use.

Do not buy the 4 1/2 inch wheels made in China for angle grinders.
The ones from Taiwan are okay. The Russian ones were really good, but
I can not find them anymore.

Dan

With the distances on this list, it's so rare to have a chance to meet in
person. I'm sure it would have been fun to meet. As to having a home shop
(don't have one), you'd be disappointed. I have a few tools, and a few
memories of running a lathe in high school. I do a very little bit of
machining with hand tools as needed to repair my vehicle, and sometimes a
little bit of sheet metal work as needed.

I'm sure I'd learn a lot from you.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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GeoLane at PTD dot NET wrote in message
...

Hey Stormin, I forgot you were in Rochester. I was just up there last
Saturday to buy the South Bend shaper that was on Craigslist. The guy
still has a Rockwell tool & cutter grinder that's in decent shape and
an Induma knee mill. 3.5 hour drive each way from central PA up
there.

A year or so ago, a friend needed a 25 inch breaker bar. Sears had one for
$50. The guy only needs it once a year or so, fixing his car. HF had one on
sale for ten bucks that will do the job for occasional use.

Some things have their uses.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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wrote in message
...

It really depends on the item. Not everything is from China. They
have some combination wrenches from India, grinding wheels from
Russia. And some things from China are good. Most everything is
worth the price they sell it for and a few things are worth more than
the price. But you are right, a lot of what they sell is not what you
really want for everyday use.

Do not buy the 4 1/2 inch wheels made in China for angle grinders.
The ones from Taiwan are okay. The Russian ones were really good, but
I can not find them anymore.

Dan

I'm guessing that the Chinese send us merchandise on barges, and take scrap
on the return trip. Easier to remelt US made scrap iron, than to mine and
forge it from the ore. Just a guess.

Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
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..

not@home wrote in message
...
Meanwhile I'm filling a dumpster and loading a trailer with
scrap metal...

I've got bad news. As far as I know, HF stores do not barter.

they sell enough scrap metal as it is, they don;t need any more for trade in

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On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:21:11 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I'm guessing that the Chinese send us merchandise on barges, and take scrap
on the return trip. Easier to remelt US made scrap iron, than to mine and
forge it from the ore. Just a guess.


Chinese domestic steel production in 2010: 637 million tonnes.*

US ferrous scrap exports to China in 2010: 9.9 million tonnes.**

US scrap contribution is pretty much negligible (about 1.5%).


*
http://www.worldsteel.org/dms/intern...hly%202010.pdf

**
http://www.bir.org/assets/Documents/...l2006-2010.pdf

So much for that theory.

Christopher A. Young
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"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:21:11 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I'm guessing that the Chinese send us merchandise on barges, and take scrap
on the return trip. Easier to remelt US made scrap iron, than to mine and
forge it from the ore. Just a guess.


Chinese domestic steel production in 2010: 637 million tonnes.*

US ferrous scrap exports to China in 2010: 9.9 million tonnes.**

US scrap contribution is pretty much negligible (about 1.5%).


*
http://www.worldsteel.org/dms/intern...hly%202010.pdf

**
http://www.bir.org/assets/Documents/...l2006-2010.pdf

"Stormin Mormon" wrote:

So much for that theory.

Not really. It depends on how much scrap steel they send us in the
form of "new goods" versus the amount we send them back. The volumes
or weight might still match.

As far as the "cost" relative to refining. ... If you had some one
willing to sell you gold at $32/oz but would only sell you an ounce a
year, and you needed 66 oz/yr, Would you not still buy the $32
dollar ounce when you could? I know I would.


"Spehro Pefhany" wrote in message
.. .
On Wed, 28 Mar 2012 13:21:11 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

I'm guessing that the Chinese send us merchandise on barges, and take scrap
on the return trip. Easier to remelt US made scrap iron, than to mine and
forge it from the ore. Just a guess.
Chinese domestic steel production in 2010: 637 million tonnes.*
US ferrous scrap exports to China in 2010: 9.9 million tonnes.**
US scrap contribution is pretty much negligible (about 1.5%).
jk