Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces

"Ignoramus28169" wrote in message
...
Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces

I wonder what the standard of proficiency is, learning the technical words
or also mastering the difficult grammar?

jsw

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:21:08 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces


S volkami zit, po volchi vyt!

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

On 2011-10-06, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:21:08 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces


S volkami zit, po volchi vyt!

Truer words have not been spoken!

i

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:21:31 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

On 2011-10-06, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:21:08 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces


S volkami zit, po volchi vyt!

Truer words have not been spoken!

When in Rome, eh?

http://goo.gl/BQa2g

--
We are always the same age inside.
-- Gertrude Stein

On 2011-10-05, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Ignoramus28169" wrote in message
...
Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces

I wonder what the standard of proficiency is, learning the technical words
or also mastering the difficult grammar?

Lots of technical words in Russian are from English or German. I would
say up to 50%.

i

Ignoramus28169 wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces
They've been doing it for quite some time. Now, especially that the
Russians are our only way to get to/from the space station, we
need to be able to communicate with them, without interpreters.

Jon

On 2011-10-06, Jon Elson wrote:
Ignoramus28169 wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces
They've been doing it for quite some time. Now, especially that the
Russians are our only way to get to/from the space station, we
need to be able to communicate with them, without interpreters.

Makes sense. Fortunately, vodka is pronounced the same way in both
countries. (as is "algebra", the reason why I registered algebra.com in
1995).

i

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 22:04:20 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

On 2011-10-06, Jon Elson wrote:
Ignoramus28169 wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.


http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces
They've been doing it for quite some time. Now, especially that the
Russians are our only way to get to/from the space station, we
need to be able to communicate with them, without interpreters.

Makes sense. Fortunately, vodka is pronounced the same way in both
countries.

Eez not wadka?

--
We are always the same age inside.
-- Gertrude Stein

On 10/5/2011 9:29 PM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 20:21:31 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

On 2011-10-06, wrote:
On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 17:21:08 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...an/?test=faces


S volkami zit, po volchi vyt!

Truer words have not been spoken!

When in Rome, eh?


ya beat me to it, Larry...

I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

On 10/5/2011 11:30 PM, Ignoramus28169 wrote:
I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

Surely.

But Congress doesn't want to PAY for it...

"Ignoramus28169" wrote in message
news
On 2011-10-05, Jim Wilkins wrote:
...

I wonder what the standard of proficiency is, learning the technical
words
or also mastering the difficult grammar?

Lots of technical words in Russian are from English or German. I would
say up to 50%.
i

French provided aviation terms to Russian, also to English (aileron,
fuselage). I traced Forsirovanny (supercharged, boosted) back to the French
term for forcing plant growth.

Knowing French, German and Latin has helped me considerably with Russian.

jsw

On 2011-10-06, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Ignoramus28169" wrote in message
news
On 2011-10-05, Jim Wilkins wrote:
...

I wonder what the standard of proficiency is, learning the technical
words
or also mastering the difficult grammar?

Lots of technical words in Russian are from English or German. I would
say up to 50%.
i

French provided aviation terms to Russian, also to English (aileron,
fuselage). I traced Forsirovanny (supercharged, boosted) back to the French
term for forcing plant growth.

Knowing French, German and Latin has helped me considerably with Russian.


I did not even know this, but it makes perfect sense.

i

"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 10/5/2011 11:30 PM, Ignoramus28169 wrote:
I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

Surely.

But Congress doesn't want to PAY for it...

Obama cancelled it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_program

After all, the money should be spent here on Earth to create jobs.

jsw

On 2011-10-06, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 10/5/2011 11:30 PM, Ignoramus28169 wrote:
I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

Surely.

But Congress doesn't want to PAY for it...

Obama cancelled it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_program

After all, the money should be spent here on Earth to create jobs.

jsw



I thought that Constellation was for trips far away from the Earth?

i

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 23:30:08 -0500, Ignoramus28169
wrote:

I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

I believe NASA to be a very inefficient organization, despite their
achievements. They probably could design small craft, but they could
not do so cost-effectively at all.

--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:40:19 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


"Richard" wrote in message
om...
On 10/5/2011 11:30 PM, Ignoramus28169 wrote:
I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

Surely.

But Congress doesn't want to PAY for it...

Obama cancelled it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_program

After all, the money should be spent here on Earth to create jobs.

Yeah, he's done a bang-up job here on that, hasn't he? Now they're
going after defaulted student loans. Loans they can't repay because
there are no jobs. Default is up to 15% this year.
http://goo.gl/Bxo5P

I wonder why he doesn't have GE audited and start paying taxes. Their
share should be 100 times what the student loan defaults come to.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2754215/posts

And maybe have the gov't (IRS, SSA, and who else?) stop payments to
dead people? Senator Coburn's report http://goo.gl/8Sl8S shows over
$1 billion paid in the last decade or so.


--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some blues.
--Duke Ellington

On Wed, 05 Oct 2011 19:21:41 -0400, Jim Wilkins wrote:

"Ignoramus28169" wrote in message
...
Sad news.

I do not give it as much significance as Fox News, but, here we are.

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/...a-teaching-us-
astronauts-russian/?test=faces

I wonder what the standard of proficiency is, learning the technical
words or also mastering the difficult grammar?

Before I was married my standard of proficiency for any language was: can
I talk a girl into bed.

Alas, I wasn't very proficient at all, even in English.

--
www.wescottdesign.com

On 10/6/2011 7:40 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:
wrote in message
m...
On 10/5/2011 11:30 PM, Ignoramus28169 wrote:
I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

Surely.

But Congress doesn't want to PAY for it...

Obama cancelled it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_program

After all, the money should be spent here on Earth to create jobs.

jsw



NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)

On 10/6/2011 9:43 AM, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:40:19 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


wrote in message
m...
On 10/5/2011 11:30 PM, Ignoramus28169 wrote:
I have been thinking about this. Getting people into orbit is, well,
rocket science, but all ingredients in it are well known.

So, how come we have to ask the Russians to send our cosmonavts into
orbit? What if the Congress asks NASA to design a very reliable, but
basic, people launching system, with disposable spacecraft? NASA can
surely do it? WTF?

i

Surely.

But Congress doesn't want to PAY for it...

Obama cancelled it.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constellation_program

After all, the money should be spent here on Earth to create jobs.

Yeah, he's done a bang-up job here on that, hasn't he? Now they're
going after defaulted student loans. Loans they can't repay because
there are no jobs. Default is up to 15% this year.
http://goo.gl/Bxo5P

I wonder why he doesn't have GE audited and start paying taxes. Their
share should be 100 times what the student loan defaults come to.
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2754215/posts


How about an audit of the Federal Reserve?
Has that EVER been done?



And maybe have the gov't (IRS, SSA, and who else?) stop payments to
dead people? Senator Coburn's report http://goo.gl/8Sl8S shows over
$1 billion paid in the last decade or so.


I suspect they pay dead people so that they can vote.

"Richard" wrote in message
m...
On 10/6/2011 7:40 AM, Jim Wilkins wrote:

...
After all, the money should be spent here on Earth to create jobs.

jsw



NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Richard wrote:

NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything, except work
the counter of some fast food places.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Lets look at the space program by different companies.

Space Program by Windows: The boosters and nose cone have
software compatibility problems. Have to relaunch the rocket
every morning.

Space program by McDonalds. The rockets are inexpensive, and
identical. Every town has its own rocket. Kids love
McRockets, and grow up to be obese astronauts.

Space program by Nike: The only rocket with 7 foot tall
black astronauts. Their rockets go higher.

Space program by Obama: Built, expensively, by union thugs.
Got a problem with that?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Larry Jaques" wrote in
message ...

I believe NASA to be a very inefficient organization,
despite their
achievements. They probably could design small craft, but
they could
not do so cost-effectively at all.

--
I merely took the energy it takes to pout and wrote some
blues.
--Duke
Ellington

Overall, I'd rather have a rocket in space, than a five year
study on gerbil sex.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in
message
m...

Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs
of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything,
except work
the counter of some fast food places.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

On 10/6/2011 1:44 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Richard wrote:

NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything, except work
the counter of some fast food places.



And feed the researchers, scientist and engineers!
See? Everybody had a job.

I thought it was a bit odd that the first economic turn-down in the 70s
came just after NASA was throttled back.

Thousands of highly skilled (and well paid) engineers and production
people were laid off - and then the economy tanked.

Gee, why would that happen???

Richard wrote:

On 10/6/2011 1:44 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Richard wrote:

NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything, except work
the counter of some fast food places.



And feed the researchers, scientist and engineers!
See? Everybody had a job.

I thought it was a bit odd that the first economic turn-down in the 70s
came just after NASA was throttled back.

Thousands of highly skilled (and well paid) engineers and production
people were laid off - and then the economy tanked.

Gee, why would that happen???


Every Liberal action has an unfortunate reaction.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Overall, I'd rather have a rocket in space, than a five year
study on gerbil sex.


That's not what the gerbils said about you! ;-)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

On 2011-10-06, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Overall, I'd rather have a rocket in space, than a five year
study on gerbil sex.


That's not what the gerbils said about you! ;-)



My rocket is headed for Uranus!

i

On 10/6/2011 4:20 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Richard wrote:

On 10/6/2011 1:44 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Richard wrote:

NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything, except work
the counter of some fast food places.



And feed the researchers, scientist and engineers!
See? Everybody had a job.

I thought it was a bit odd that the first economic turn-down in the 70s
came just after NASA was throttled back.

Thousands of highly skilled (and well paid) engineers and production
people were laid off - and then the economy tanked.

Gee, why would that happen???


Every Liberal action has an unfortunate reaction.



Sounds a bit like Newton.

Every action has an (unfortunate) reaction?

But...

For what it's worth...

I don't believe most of the "conservatives" I know are really
conservatives. Many are simply bigots who go by a better name.

And the "liberals" are often "me-firsters".

I truly believe that the time is coming when all this politically
(in)correctness will slough away and people will call things as the
really are.

And it's coming soon...


Welcome to the Twenty-First Century!

On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:24:56 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
wrote:


"Ignoramus28169" wrote in message
news
On 2011-10-05, Jim Wilkins wrote:
...

I wonder what the standard of proficiency is, learning the technical
words
or also mastering the difficult grammar?

Lots of technical words in Russian are from English or German. I would
say up to 50%.
i

French provided aviation terms to Russian, also to English (aileron,
fuselage). I traced Forsirovanny (supercharged, boosted) back to the French
term for forcing plant growth.

Knowing French, German and Latin has helped me considerably with Russian.

I got severely bollocked at school for daring to suggest that the word
"combine" (as in combine harvester) was of English origin, not
Russian.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

You mean the Gerbils would prefer a five year study on
Mormon sex, instead of a rocket?

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in
message
m...

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Overall, I'd rather have a rocket in space, than a five
year
study on gerbil sex.


That's not what the gerbils said about you! ;-)


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Give them a break (in the head ?) they are skilled in
slinging mud, ink, paint, scams...

Martin

On 10/6/2011 1:44 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Richard wrote:

NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything, except work
the counter of some fast food places.

Stormin Mormon wrote:

You mean the Gerbils would prefer a five year study on
Mormon sex, instead of a rocket?


They said their sexual activity was none of your business!


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Martin Eastburn wrote:

Give them a break (in the head ?) they are skilled in
slinging mud, ink, paint, scams...


Their heads are already broken, from slinging all that other ****.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Richard wrote:

On 10/6/2011 4:20 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Richard wrote:

On 10/6/2011 1:44 PM, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Jim Wilkins wrote:

Richard wrote:

NASA jobs are almost entirely here on earth.
Good jobs too. Research, engineering, manufacturing.
(If you are into that kind of stuff)


Money spent on NASA disproportionately neglects the needs of liberal arts
majors who aren't qualified to participate.


Liberal arts majors who aren't qualified to do anything, except work
the counter of some fast food places.



And feed the researchers, scientist and engineers!
See? Everybody had a job.

I thought it was a bit odd that the first economic turn-down in the 70s
came just after NASA was throttled back.

Thousands of highly skilled (and well paid) engineers and production
people were laid off - and then the economy tanked.

Gee, why would that happen???


Every Liberal action has an unfortunate reaction.



Sounds a bit like Newton.

Every action has an (unfortunate) reaction?

But...

For what it's worth...

I don't believe most of the "conservatives" I know are really
conservatives. Many are simply bigots who go by a better name.


There have always been wolves in sheep's clothing.


And the "liberals" are often "me-firsters".


And "me-onlys", like Daffy Duck yelling "It's mine! It's ALL mine".


I truly believe that the time is coming when all this politically
(in)correctness will slough away and people will call things as the
really are.


I, for one am tired of being told I can't call a spade a shovel.



And it's coming soon...

Welcome to the Twenty-First Century!


I wasn't sure I was going to get here.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

Ignoramus15921 wrote:

On 2011-10-06, Michael A. Terrell wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Overall, I'd rather have a rocket in space, than a five year
study on gerbil sex.


That's not what the gerbils said about you! ;-)



My rocket is headed for Uranus!


Let'r rip! Marvin the Martin is waiting to blast you out of time
space.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

That calls for five year study of Buggs Bunny.

--
Christopher A. Young
Learn more about Jesus
www.lds.org
..


"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in
message
...

Ignoramus15921 wrote:

On 2011-10-06, Michael A. Terrell
wrote:

Stormin Mormon wrote:

Overall, I'd rather have a rocket in space, than a five
year
study on gerbil sex.


That's not what the gerbils said about you! ;-)



My rocket is headed for Uranus!


Let'r rip! Marvin the Martin is waiting to blast you out
of time
space.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.

wrote in message
...
On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 08:24:56 -0400, "Jim Wilkins"
...
Knowing French, German and Latin has helped me considerably with Russian.

I got severely bollocked at school for daring to suggest that the word
"combine" (as in combine harvester) was of English origin, not
Russian.

Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC

Most successful Russian inventor named Comrade Reguspatoff.

jsw

Stormin Mormon wrote:

That calls for five year study of Buggs Bunny.


Then do it.


--
You can't have a sense of humor, if you have no sense.