Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?
Thanks,
Eric

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?
Thanks,
Eric

Which version of Agent?


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wrote:

Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?
Thanks,
Eric

Click "next?"

Good Luck!
Rich

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:57:02 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


pyotr filipivich wrote:

on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC) typed in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?

Two things - ask at alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent, the
home of all things Agent related.

Secondly, I doubt you can filter on cross posts, at least not with
versions 1 through 3. (I've been using 3.3 for dog years - "Works for
me!") Agent does have an option to mark cross posts "read", but only
on the N+1 occurrence. (look under the "Folder" options for "cross
post management". Can be set in Default Properties, too) That is, if
RCM is your first group, any header downloaded there will be unread,
all the subsequent groups will have that same header marked as "read".
But it will not check to see if someone is cross posting to
alt.barney.die.die.die and rec.crafts.metalworking.

In other words, I doubt it can be done, "you'll just have to live with
it." Or filter out those you consider the worst cross-posters (as
opposed to cross-dressers).

Another option is a separate filter such as NewsProxy.
Since I'm running Agent 2.0/something I guess I'll either have to
upgrade or try NewsProxy.
Thanks,
Eric

Your first two filters for NewsProxy:

* drop Message-ID:*googlegroups*
* drop xref:*:*:*:*

Any crap from googlegroups, and anything crossposted to three or more
groups.

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 13:57:02 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote:


pyotr filipivich wrote:

on Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC) typed in
rec.crafts.metalworking the following:
Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?

Two things - ask at alt.usenet.offline-reader.forte-agent, the
home of all things Agent related.

Secondly, I doubt you can filter on cross posts, at least not with
versions 1 through 3. (I've been using 3.3 for dog years - "Works for
me!") Agent does have an option to mark cross posts "read", but only
on the N+1 occurrence. (look under the "Folder" options for "cross
post management". Can be set in Default Properties, too) That is, if
RCM is your first group, any header downloaded there will be unread,
all the subsequent groups will have that same header marked as "read".
But it will not check to see if someone is cross posting to
alt.barney.die.die.die and rec.crafts.metalworking.

In other words, I doubt it can be done, "you'll just have to live with
it." Or filter out those you consider the worst cross-posters (as
opposed to cross-dressers).

Another option is a separate filter such as NewsProxy.
Since I'm running Agent 2.0/something I guess I'll either have to
upgrade or try NewsProxy.

Never tried NewsProxy, but Hamster, a similar product, has excellent
filtering. Only objection to Hamster is that the English documentation
is pretty poor (the German documentation may be excellent--I don't have
enough German to be able to tell).

http://www.elbiah.de/hamster/index.htm

On 2011-08-31, wrote:
Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?

I don't know Agent specifically, but the usual trick is to count
commas in the "Newsgroups: " header. One comma is two newsgroups, two
commas is three an so forth.

My newsreader allows scoring, so I can allocate say -10 points
for one comma, another -10 points for two commas (separate test) and so
on -- and for the desired cross-posts (e.g. the weekly puzzles which are
posted to three newsgroups, I take the "From: " header and give
something like +50 to override the total of the negatives from the
commas.

Hopefully, someone else who *uses* Agent can tell you how to do
this. IIRC, I think that it needed a bit of trickery to add
"Newsgroups: " to the headers on which you can filter.

Good Luck,
DoN.

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On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 14:38:02 -0400, Usual suspect
wrote:

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?
Thanks,
Eric

Agent 4, Select "Folder" Select "Default Properties" Enable "Cross
post checking" enter 2 Select "Do not retrieve Header"
The usenet becomes a much more peaceful and sane place.

Try the following filter

newsgroups: ({\,.,} and rec.crafts.metalworking)

(search for "warez" in the Agent help files for a full explanation)

I'm not addressing you personally, Eric, but developing a practice of never
replying to the morons with agendas would deny them of the attention they
crave.. and eventually they'll fade away.

This would include ignoring the MWAs when they ask for metalworking help..
by seeing the value of their eventual absence.

Then, finally, those with actual metalworking interests could resume
metalworking discussions without all the added bull****.

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WB
..........


wrote in message
...
Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?
Thanks,
Eric

On 9/2/2011 9:58 PM, Steve Ackman wrote:
On Thu, 1 Sep 2011 11:29:22 +0000 (UTC), Kelly D. Grills wrote:
* DoN. :

I don't know Agent specifically, but the usual trick is to count
commas in the "Newsgroups: " header. One comma is two newsgroups, two
commas is three an so forth.

FYI the Xref header is preferred over the Newsgroups header.

http://www.slrn.org/docs/slrn-FAQ-4.html#ss4.14

From one slrn bigot to another. :-)

Zealot, not bigot. ;-)


at least with thunderbird, I just discovered I could put a custom filter
type of "headers" into my filter and then delete messages posted to the
usual annoying places - reduced my daily number of messages from
hundreds to a few dozen that seem to be somehow related to the topic of
metal working

wrote:

Another option is a separate filter such as NewsProxy.
Since I'm running Agent 2.0/something I guess I'll either have to
upgrade or try NewsProxy.
Thanks,
Eric

I used to use newsproxy and it worked really well. If you use a rule to drop anything
posted to more than three groups, the view will improve greatly.


IIRC, you can also tell it to drop anything posted to certain groups. Alt.politics would
be a good choice to filter on.

Wes

On Sat, 3 Sep 2011 00:01:13 -0400, "Wild_Bill"
wrote:

I'm not addressing you personally, Eric, but developing a practice of never
replying to the morons with agendas would deny them of the attention they
crave.. and eventually they'll fade away.

This would include ignoring the MWAs when they ask for metalworking help..
by seeing the value of their eventual absence.

Then, finally, those with actual metalworking interests could resume
metalworking discussions without all the added bull****.
Greetings Bill,
I don't reply to any of those messages. Or read them. Especially when
so many of them have some sort of made up name that's aimed at
insulting someone. BTW, do you have, or did you have, anything to do
with KPIG?
Eric

On Wed, 31 Aug 2011 16:46:51 +0000 (UTC), wrote:

Though I use lots of kill filters I cannot figure out how to filter
out cross posts in Agent. And the number of and subjects of posts from
other newsgroups is making it really hard to read rcm. So can anyone
tell me how to filter out crossposts using Agent?
Thanks,
Eric


I am using Agent 3.1 here.
Menu:
FolderDefault PropertiesCrosspost Managementcheck "enable crosspost
management" Skip the header(do not retrieve it)then clear the
cache of cross posted messages.

HTH
Dave

I hadn't heard of that station until you mentioned it, Eric.. funny callsign
though.

I was interested in hearing some programming (I'm in western PA), but it
seems that a subscription is required, and I didn't see if a subscription
feed would be commercial-free, so I lost interest.

Yep, same as you.. I just hit the delete key for all the crap posts.

--
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wrote in message
...
Greetings Bill,
I don't reply to any of those messages. Or read them. Especially when
so many of them have some sort of made up name that's aimed at
insulting someone. BTW, do you have, or did you have, anything to do
with KPIG?
Eric