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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, technomaNge
wrote: On 03/19/2011 03:08 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote: Three questions for you. Do you think of Republicans and the Tea Party as dangerous, violent extremists? Do you think the Wisconsin protests over GOP Governor Scott Walker's move to strip public sector employees of collective bargaining were peaceful? Do you scoff at the right wing notion that mainstream media like the New York Times, the TV networks and NPR have a liberal media bias against the conservatives? If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
"Larry Jaques" wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, technomaNge wrote: On 03/19/2011 03:08 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote: Three questions for you. Do you think of Republicans and the Tea Party as dangerous, violent extremists? Do you think the Wisconsin protests over GOP Governor Scott Walker's move to strip public sector employees of collective bargaining were peaceful? Do you scoff at the right wing notion that mainstream media like the New York Times, the TV networks and NPR have a liberal media bias against the conservatives? If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote:
"Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. -- www.wbnoble.com |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
Bill Noble wrote:
hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. Thanks, Rich |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:11:22 -0700, Rich Grise
wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. ....while being engaged in it with their Demonrat cohorts in CONgress. Too many have followed the Way of the Blues. -- "I probably became a libertarian through exposure to tough-minded professors" James Buchanan, Armen Alchian, Milton Friedman "who encouraged me to think with my brain instead of my heart. I learned that you have to evaluate the effects of public policy as opposed to intentions." -- Walter E. Williams |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 14:11:22 -0700, Rich Grise
wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. Thanks, Rich Why do you say that? I am pretty sure there is not a politician alive Democrat or Republican that hates Goldman Sachs. |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/20/2011 2:11 PM, Rich Grise wrote:
Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. Thanks, Rich interesting - very interesting - so you don't think they should hate this kind of threat? but that they should hate those who wish to employ taxes to keep people from dying on the streets - did you really mean to say that? -- www.wbnoble.com |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/20/2011 11:17 AM, Bill Noble wrote:
On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. I don't know why conservatives would take offense if someone made death threats to right wing politicians? After all, if you want to count up death threats made to anyone it's usually some conservative doing it. How about bombings? That's conservatives doing that too. Assassinations of doctors? Again, it's conservatives doing it. The truth is when it comes to murder, bombings, and threats of death or violence it's almost always a conservative doing it. So when they hear of a liberal doing that I would think they would identify with him. I would think they would respect him for acting just like they would. But I guess that's not the case. It seems that conservatives find making death threats really, really wrong. At least when a liberal does it. Not so much when it's one of them. Hawke |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
Bill Noble wrote:
On 3/20/2011 2:11 PM, Rich Grise wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. interesting - very interesting - so you don't think they should hate this kind of threat? Oh, well, yeah, death threats should be "hated" and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, as long as you don't infringe on the First Amendment. I was merely addressing the "swallow the republican hatred" part. but that they should hate those who wish to employ taxes to keep people from dying on the streets - did you really mean to say that? What are you talking about? Other than in Japan and the places where we're making war, who's dying in the streets? But yes, I do hate having my money confiscated out of my paycheck to support the lazy and negligent - isn't that what the churches are for? I don't know if that's a republican or democrat value - I'm a Libertarian, and can't understand the mentality of either polarity of extremist. Thanks, Rich |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
John R. Carroll wrote:
Rich Grise wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. Why then do they do it? Got facts and figures, or is this just more of the Chicken Little-style fear-mongering? Thanks, Rich |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
On Mar 20, 9:01*pm, Rich Grise wrote:
Bill Noble wrote: but that they should hate those who wish to employ taxes to keep people from dying on the streets - did you really mean to say that? What are you talking about? Other than in Japan and the places where we're making war, who's dying in the streets? Rich, you really need to get out more. Read a newspaper once in a while. |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:14:40 -0700, Hawke
wrote: On 3/20/2011 11:17 AM, Bill Noble wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. I don't know why conservatives would take offense if someone made death threats to right wing politicians? After all, if you want to count up death threats made to anyone it's usually some conservative doing it. How about bombings? That's conservatives doing that too. Hello McFly? http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/39760 |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/20/2011 6:01 PM, Rich Grise wrote:
Bill Noble wrote: On 3/20/2011 2:11 PM, Rich Grise wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. interesting - very interesting - so you don't think they should hate this kind of threat? Oh, well, yeah, death threats should be "hated" and prosecuted to the full extent of the law, as long as you don't infringe on the First Amendment. I was merely addressing the "swallow the republican hatred" part. but that they should hate those who wish to employ taxes to keep people from dying on the streets - did you really mean to say that? What are you talking about? Other than in Japan and the places where we're making war, who's dying in the streets? But yes, I do hate having my money confiscated out of my paycheck to support the lazy and negligent - isn't that what the churches are for? I don't know if that's a republican or democrat value - I'm a Libertarian, and can't understand the mentality of either polarity of extremist. Thanks, Rich That's a good one. A libertarian, who by definition is an extremist, doesn't understand the mentality of other extremists. Ha, Ha, Ha, Ho, Ho, Ho, that's funny. Your extremism you can understand but not anyone else's. That's what they all say. Hawke |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/20/2011 7:53 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:14:40 -0700, Hawke wrote: On 3/20/2011 11:17 AM, Bill Noble wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. I don't know why conservatives would take offense if someone made death threats to right wing politicians? After all, if you want to count up death threats made to anyone it's usually some conservative doing it. How about bombings? That's conservatives doing that too. Hello McFly? http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/39760 I was referring to bombings done by individuals not the military. Like bombings of abortion clinics or the Olympics. That kind of thing. Nothing to do with the military. Hawke |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:20:29 -0700, Hawke
wrote: On 3/20/2011 7:53 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:14:40 -0700, Hawke wrote: On 3/20/2011 11:17 AM, Bill Noble wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. I don't know why conservatives would take offense if someone made death threats to right wing politicians? After all, if you want to count up death threats made to anyone it's usually some conservative doing it. How about bombings? That's conservatives doing that too. Hello McFly? http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/39760 I was referring to bombings done by individuals not the military. Like bombings of abortion clinics or the Olympics. That kind of thing. Nothing to do with the military. Hawke Oh, I see. You meant like the Weather Underground! Wait, those were all lefties. Now look who has egg on their beak! http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2004...weather_012904 |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
"Bill Noble" wrote in message ... On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. -- www.wbnoble.com You're absolutely right! Politics can NEVER be taken to a personal level. I like a good argument, most people do. Yet threats can NOT be tolerated...by ANY side. Nor should political arguments ever overflow the box they are supposed to be in. My astonishment is a non-liberal article on Hufpo. How did THAT happen? Is it due to the change of ownership? Will we see "Obama, 2012" ads on Fox? |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
"Boris Kapusta" wrote in message ... On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:20:29 -0700, Hawke wrote: On 3/20/2011 7:53 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:14:40 -0700, Hawke wrote: On 3/20/2011 11:17 AM, Bill Noble wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. I don't know why conservatives would take offense if someone made death threats to right wing politicians? After all, if you want to count up death threats made to anyone it's usually some conservative doing it. How about bombings? That's conservatives doing that too. Hello McFly? http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/39760 I was referring to bombings done by individuals not the military. Like bombings of abortion clinics or the Olympics. That kind of thing. Nothing to do with the military. Hawke Oh, I see. You meant like the Weather Underground! Wait, those were all lefties. Now look who has egg on their beak! http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2004...weather_012904 Hawke has selective hearing, seeing, reading, watching, learning, etc., etc., etc... If it doesn't fit the agenda he was told to have, it doesn't exist. |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is Media Bias
John R. Carroll wrote:
Rich Grise wrote: John R. Carroll wrote: Rich Grise wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. Why then do they do it? Got facts and figures, or is this just more of the Chicken Little-style fear-mongering? WellRich, You are the one that said "I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality." Any proof of that? As much as you have proof of your claims. Thanks, Rich |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/21/2011 1:28 PM, John R. Carroll wrote:
Rich Grise wrote: John R. Carroll wrote: Rich Grise wrote: John R. Carroll wrote: Rich Grise wrote: Bill Noble wrote: hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality. Why then do they do it? Got facts and figures, or is this just more of the Chicken Little-style fear-mongering? WellRich, You are the one that said "I'm pretty sure the republicans only hate theft, extortion, and other institutionalized criminality." Any proof of that? As much as you have proof of your claims. LOL Jack Abramoff went to jail Rich, and Tom Delay is now a convicted felon. You don't get more Republican than those two. In my book those two are the best possible examples of republicans. Lying, crooked, hypocrites, of which you won't find any worse no matter how hard you look. Those two demonstrated the values of real republicans. Knowing what kind of people these two are how can anyone blame me for despising republicans? I don't see how anyone could hold a positive opinion of either one of those snakes. But I know they do. Hawke |
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Shame: Ignoring Death Threats to Wisconsin Politicians Is MediaBias
On 3/20/2011 9:02 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote:
On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 20:20:29 -0700, Hawke wrote: On 3/20/2011 7:53 PM, Boris Kapusta wrote: On Sun, 20 Mar 2011 17:14:40 -0700, Hawke wrote: On 3/20/2011 11:17 AM, Bill Noble wrote: On 3/20/2011 3:09 AM, Tom Gardner wrote: "Larry wrote in message ... On Sat, 19 Mar 2011 22:19:31 -0500, wrote: snip If you answered 'yes' to all three of those questions, then let me ask you one more... http://www.huffingtonpost.com/lee-st..._b_835805.html Lee Stranahan is about to lose his gig at HuffPo, 'soon as Arianna sees sympathy for the Tea Party. Kudos to Lee for stepping up. BTW, I answered all 3 of his questions with "NO". -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey How did he get published on Hufpo? Will the "Jumpy-Uppy-Downey" liberals swarm him? This IS going to be fun to see how liberals sputter. hate speech from any side is not acceptable. I don't see why you think that those who don't swallow the republican hatred will feel obliged to swallow this hatred. There is no excuse from death threats from anyone against a legitimately elected politician at any time, and anyone who does not condemn this is certainly not a liberal. You can speak for your conservative buddies, I see that you personally didn't condemn it. I do. I don't know why conservatives would take offense if someone made death threats to right wing politicians? After all, if you want to count up death threats made to anyone it's usually some conservative doing it. How about bombings? That's conservatives doing that too. Hello McFly? http://www.capitolhillblue.com/node/39760 I was referring to bombings done by individuals not the military. Like bombings of abortion clinics or the Olympics. That kind of thing. Nothing to do with the military. Hawke Oh, I see. You meant like the Weather Underground! Wait, those were all lefties. Now look who has egg on their beak! http://www.fbi.gov/news/stories/2004...weather_012904 Wasn't that some group from like 50 or 60 years ago? Why, yes it was. Which just shows how far you have to go to dig up some dirt on the left. On the other hand, we have people on your side bombing and shooting people right now. How about that McVeigh guy? Was he a liberal too? No siree, that boy was as right wing as you can get. So face it. The out of control killers and bombers are on the right wing side. Because if you're going to go back to the 50s or 60s to find bad liberals then I'm going to go back to the Civil War. Hawke |
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