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Right angle drives, for drilling?
Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive
Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Thanks. |
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http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...ill-92956.html http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...uck-95877.html Why screw around? JR Dweller in the cellar On 02 Feb 2011 02:47:44 GMT, John Doe wrote: Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Thanks. |
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John Doe wrote:
Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Define "support"? If your drill motor has a chuck, it will be supported. Is it sturdy and beefy and something you would expect to last a few years on a jobsite? Mine doesn't feel that solid, but for what it is it works great. Jon |
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"Jon Danniken" jonSPAMMENOTdanniken yahSPAMhoo.com wrote:
John Doe wrote: Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Define "support"? Being able to handle the power of the drill. Being able to handle the torque that the drill is able to output. Having the same torque handling capacity and durability as the other parts in the specified tools. -- If your drill motor has a chuck, it will be supported. Is it sturdy and beefy and something you would expect to last a few years on a jobsite? Mine doesn't feel that solid, but for what it is it works great. Jon |
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http://www.rittercnc.com/metalworkin...ng-489371-.htm artisticirondesign wrote: John Doe wrote: Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Thanks. Maybe you can get more ideas from proffessionals or you may also hire someone to do that for you ( professional of course) you may call in Artistic Iron Design specializes in providing high quality services. ArtisticIronDesign(dot)BmbNow(dot)com -- _ _ _ _ | |_ | |__ (_) ___ (_) ___ _ __ ___ _ _ | __|| '_ \ | |/ __| | |/ __| | '_ ` _ \ | | | | | |_ | | | || |\__ \ | |\__ \ | | | | | || |_| | \__||_| |_||_||___/ |_||___/ |_| |_| |_| \__, | |___/ _ _ ___ (_) __ _ _ __ __ _ | |_ _ _ _ __ ___ / __|| | / _` || '_ \ / _` || __|| | | || '__|/ _ \ \__ \| || (_| || | | || (_| || |_ | |_| || | | __/ |___/|_| \__, ||_| |_| \__,_| \__| \__,_||_| \___| |___/ Artistic Iron Design |
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artisticirondesign wrote:
Maybe you can get more ideas from proffessionals or you may also hire someone to do that for you ( professional of course) you may call in Artistic Iron Design specializes in providing high quality services. Do you actually think that you're going to generate any business by posting this crap? All you're doing is annoying people. People who might otherwise visit your site will not now. Bob |
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On Feb 1, 9:41*pm, John Doe wrote:
"Jon Danniken" jonSPAMMENOTdanniken yahSPAMhoo.com wrote: John Doe wrote: Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Define "support"? * Being able to handle the power of the drill. Being able to handle the torque that the drill is able to output. Having the same torque handling capacity and durability as the other parts in the specified tools. -- If your drill motor has a chuck, it will be supported. Is it sturdy and beefy and something you would expect to last a few years on a jobsite? *Mine doesn't feel that solid, but for what it is it works great. Jon- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It all depends on what you want to do with the drill. Small holes, sure, spade bits, maybe, driving 3" holesaws, probably not. I solved the problem of needing a right-angle drive by getting a pneumatic right-angle drill. Not cordless but WILL run off the CO2 tank. Very compact and all the power I need. I don't run it day in and day out, though. YMMV Stan |
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John Doe wrote in
rec.crafts.metalworking on 02 Feb 2011 02:47:44 GMT: Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? Thanks. I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight that works good. Cost around $10.00 on sale. The flats on the input shank had some run out, but I cleaned that up on a surface grinder. When I had it apart it looked like it would hold up. I've used it in close quarters with 1.250 spade bits and for driving screws. -- Dan H. northshore MA. |
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notme privacy.net (dan) wrote:
I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. -- that works good. Cost around $10.00 on sale. The flats on the input shank had some run out, but I cleaned that up on a surface grinder. When I had it apart it looked like it would hold up. I've used it in close quarters with 1.250 spade bits and for driving screws. |
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"John Doe" wrote in message eb.com... notme privacy.net (dan) wrote: I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. Are you on drugs, or just stupid? |
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On 2011-02-02, JR North wrote:
On 02 Feb 2011 02:47:44 GMT, John Doe wrote: [ ... ] Right angle drives, for drilling?Specifically, the inexpensive Vermont American 17172. Will it support an 18 V cordless drill? Milwaukee makes a heavy duty version, part number 48-06-2871, and a lighter duty version 49-22-8510. Any other right angle drives/gearing that will support the power of a Bosch/DeWalt 18V cordless drill? [ ... ] http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...ill-67043.html http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...ill-92956.html http://www.harborfreight.com/power-t...uck-95877.html Why screw around? If you want something which is battery powered, and does a nice job, take a look at the following item from Rigid: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 with the following needed to power it: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 FWIW -- I have this kit, the drill head above, and the hammer which follows: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1...atalogId=10053 and have found all to be quite useful. I haven't bothered with the impact drivers or the ratchet heads, because I have compressed air tools for that. (Actually, for the drill too -- but this one has plenty of torque to drive drywall screws.) So -- if you can benefit from other parts of the kit, you might find the kit better than a single tool. I used them all for some drywall work and installing outlets in cramped spaces (which is where the power hammer helped -- there was not room to swing a good hammer to attach the outlet boxes to the framing. Yes, it is 12V not 18V, but it is also LiIon and seems to do better than a similar volume of NiCad cells. Enjoy, DoN. -- Remove oil spill source from e-mail Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:52:58 -0800, "Steve B"
wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message web.com... notme privacy.net (dan) wrote: I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. Are you on drugs, or just stupid? Wasn't he the shop steward for the millwrights' union a while back? Gerry :-)} London, Canada |
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"Gerald Miller" wrote in message ... On Wed, 2 Feb 2011 17:52:58 -0800, "Steve B" wrote: "John Doe" wrote in message aweb.com... notme privacy.net (dan) wrote: I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. Are you on drugs, or just stupid? Wasn't he the shop steward for the millwrights' union a while back? Gerry :-)} London, Canada I think they made him business agent ..................... Steve |
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"Michael A. Terrell" mike.terrell earthlink.net wrote:
wrote: I solved the problem of needing a right-angle drive by getting a pneumatic right-angle drill. Not cordless but WILL run off the CO2 tank. Very compact and all the power I need. I don't run it day in and day out, though. YMMV It shouldn't overheat, run from compressed CO2. What size and weight of CO2 canister would you need for comparable work of an 18 V drill using a 2.4 amp hour battery? |
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On 03 Feb 2011 00:59:00 GMT, John Doe wrote:
notme privacy.net (dan) wrote: I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. What are the odds the $25 VA drill attachment is *not* made in China? -- Ned Simmons |
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On 03 Feb 2011 00:59:00 GMT, John Doe wrote:
notme privacy.net (dan) wrote: I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. Interesting. Hadn't heard that old saw in a few years, not since a lot of US businesses moved off shore and Americans started visiting China. I'm not sure where any Chinese prisons are actually in the manufacturing business but all those thousands of bicycle riders, and increasingly motorcycle riders are not slaves. |
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 00:51:12 -0500, Ned Simmons
wrote: On 03 Feb 2011 00:59:00 GMT, John Doe wrote: notme privacy.net (dan) wrote: I have a right angle attachment I got from Harbor Freight I cannot take advantage of Communist Chinese slave labor while putting my fellow countrymen out of work. Obviously some people think that Communist Chinese slave labor is okay. Not actually owning the slaves makes them feel good about sending their money to Communist Chinese dictators, but they have essentially the same mentality that the slave owners have. What are the odds the $25 VA drill attachment is *not* made in China? Or the odds that anything isn't made in China these days. |
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"John Doe" wrote in message eb.com... "Michael A. Terrell" mike.terrell earthlink.net wrote: wrote: I solved the problem of needing a right-angle drive by getting a pneumatic right-angle drill. Not cordless but WILL run off the CO2 tank. Very compact and all the power I need. I don't run it day in and day out, though. YMMV It shouldn't overheat, run from compressed CO2. What size and weight of CO2 canister would you need for comparable work of an 18 V drill using a 2.4 amp hour battery? Running it for very long at all can cause problems from freezing. I've frozen CO2 regulators (cheap ones) from running almost continuously. Steve Heart surgery pending? Read up and prepare. Learn how to care for a friend. Download the book. http://cabgbypasssurgery.com |
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: I have only frozen a regulator about three times during HEAVY use, and they were the $25 variety. I've never owned a $25 regulator. My mileage may have varied from yours. LLoyd |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... "Steve B" fired this volley in : I have only frozen a regulator about three times during HEAVY use, and they were the $25 variety. I've never owned a $25 regulator. My mileage may have varied from yours. LLoyd Maybe they're more now. But yes, you can get cheapies for MIG welding for low prices. They aren't very good, and don't last a long time if you weld much at all. When you're getting started, a $20 CO2 regulator that will get you by until you make enough to get into Victors is standard. One at Northern Tools is now $49. That was about 1978, so I'm sure they've gone up a few bux. My last yard sale purchase of two Victor regulators (the large 450-460 ones) plus 50' hose plus cutting head plus cart plus accessories was $45, so doing that math, I guess those were really $10 regulators. They worked just fine for a $10 regulator. I have never paid retail for a regulator in my life except for those $20 CO2 regs. Steve |
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"Steve B" fired this volley in
: I have never paid retail for a regulator in my life except for those $20 CO2 Sorry for that. There are benefits to dealing with a reputable local vendor. LLoyd |
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"Lloyd E. Sponenburgh" lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote in message . 3.70... "Steve B" fired this volley in : I have never paid retail for a regulator in my life except for those $20 CO2 Sorry for that. There are benefits to dealing with a reputable local vendor. LLoyd I use them for service and parts. Some used rigs are better than the new ones. Of the half dozen used rigs I've bought, a trip to rehab never was much, as I only bought working sets. There's not a hell of a lot to them, and are easy to check for condition. Steve |
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On Thu, 03 Feb 2011 11:17:47 -0600, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: "Steve B" fired this volley in news:732r18- : Running it for very long at all can cause problems from freezing. I've frozen CO2 regulators (cheap ones) from running almost continuously. I don't understand that, unless you were running liquid to the regulator. CO2 is liquified under much less pressure than (say) O2 is compressed (not liquified) in its cylinder. A gas cools proportionately to the expansion ratio. CO2 expands much less than would the O2 because it's at lower pressure in the tank. It will cool less, as well. We use lots of CO2-powered confetti equipment, some regulated, some not. We've _never_ frozen a regulator, even running gas-to-gas continuously for twenty minutes. Now... liquid-to-gas... yeah. You'll freeze up in a hurry; just a minute or two at a couple of cubic feet per minute. Freezing a CO2 regulator is not a problem I've faced, but I did end up with a couple of these in an auction lot, so it's apparently a real phenomenon. http://weldingdirect.com/elhereflforc.html -- Ned Simmons |
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