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What's a "Guided Tower"
Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? Thanks guys, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...-of-ri-71.html On 2010-09-15, jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? Thanks guys, Jeff |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:45:52 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? Thanks guys, Jeff I can't imagine a 1700' unguyed tower. Must mean guyed. I've seen the jumble of steel on the ground on the news when one of those things comes down. Pete Keillor |
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jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? It's simply copy written by someone without a clue. It's simply a guyed tower. I also seriously doubt that tower work is the most dangerous job in America by a long shot. There is a lot of safety gear used and when the weather is bad they simply don't work. Nothing like those crab fisherman or numerous other occupations working in far more dangerous conditions. |
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On 09/15/2010 11:45 AM, jeff_wisnia wrote:
Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? A guided tower is just like a guided missile, only the control system is lots easier. I think it's a clueless author -- if it gets by the spell checker it must be right. I have an IEEE Spectrum magazine with an editorial that talks about a helicopter flying in "Map of the earth" mode -- that's NAP of the earth, you dingbat!!. Call it the New Illiteracy. Or maybe the Newel Iterate Sea. -- Tim Wescott Wescott Design Services http://www.wescottdesign.com Do you need to implement control loops in software? "Applied Control Theory for Embedded Systems" was written for you. See details at http://www.wescottdesign.com/actfes/actfes.html |
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Pete C. wrote:
jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? It's simply copy written by someone without a clue. It's simply a guyed tower. I also seriously doubt that tower work is the most dangerous job in America by a long shot. There is a lot of safety gear used and when the weather is bad they simply don't work. Nothing like those crab fisherman or numerous other occupations working in far more dangerous conditions. Commercial divers and weldors are at or near the top of the list. John |
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On Sep 15, 11:45*am, jeff_wisnia
wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? Thanks guys, Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. Based on workmans comp rates, hard-hat divers was and always will be the most dangerous. Particularly in the bridge construction business. Paul |
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The opening title of the video describes it as a "... gided tower".
Doesn't anybody proofread these things. The free climbing was absolutely insane and stupid. Show that in 3D Imax & the audience would be puking all over. Those that weren't having panic attacks and fleeing. Bob |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 14:45:52 -0400, jeff_wisnia wrote:
Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? I wouldn't be a bit surprised to find that it's actually "guyed," but some hotshot journalist thought he heard "guided", because he'd never heard of a guy wire. Kinda like people who go have their pet "spaded." ;-) And Geordy LaForge talks about an "energy dampening field" - can't have that energy drying out, now can we? ;-P Cheers! Rich |
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On 2010-09-15, Bob Engelhardt wrote:
The opening title of the video describes it as a "... gided tower". Doesn't anybody proofread these things. The free climbing was absolutely insane and stupid. Show that in 3D Imax & the audience would be puking all over. Those that weren't having panic attacks and fleeing. When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. i |
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Ignoramus12523 wrote: On 2010-09-15, Bob Engelhardt wrote: The opening title of the video describes it as a "... gided tower". Doesn't anybody proofread these things. The free climbing was absolutely insane and stupid. Show that in 3D Imax & the audience would be puking all over. Those that weren't having panic attacks and fleeing. When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. i Static line? You mean bungee-jump? I'd never do that since there is no backup and no time to deploy a backup anyway. I did go skydiving from 14,000' (tandem) and it was spectacular and highly recommended. With sky diving, you deploy the parachute at ~4,000' which leaves time to deploy the reserve parachute if there is a problem with the main. |
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john wrote:
Pete C. wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? It's simply copy written by someone without a clue. It's simply a guyed tower. I also seriously doubt that tower work is the most dangerous job in America by a long shot. There is a lot of safety gear used and when the weather is bad they simply don't work. Nothing like those crab fisherman or numerous other occupations working in far more dangerous conditions. Commercial divers and weldors are at or near the top of the list. John You're right about that, at least for commercial divers. The eighth paragraph on this page says the fatality rate for divers is 180 deaths per year for each 100,000 employed divers. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...fshore-dsv.htm The chart part way down this OSHA page says the rate for tower workers is 183.6 per year for each 100,000 workers. http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owad...CHES&p_id=1267 I've run out of time, so I didn't look for data on welders, but I'd bet commercial underwater welders might take the prize for highest fatality rate. G Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On 2010-09-15, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus12523 wrote: On 2010-09-15, Bob Engelhardt wrote: The opening title of the video describes it as a "... gided tower". Doesn't anybody proofread these things. The free climbing was absolutely insane and stupid. Show that in 3D Imax & the audience would be puking all over. Those that weren't having panic attacks and fleeing. When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. i Static line? You mean bungee-jump? I mean from an airplane. Search for static line skydiving. In static line method, one skydives alone and a line from the backpack to the plane pulls the parachute cord automatically. I'd never do that since there is no backup and no time to deploy a backup anyway. I did go skydiving from 14,000' (tandem) and it was spectacular and highly recommended. With sky diving, you deploy the parachute at ~4,000' which leaves time to deploy the reserve parachute if there is a problem with the main. sounds fun. i |
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Ignoramus12523 wrote: On 2010-09-15, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus12523 wrote: On 2010-09-15, Bob Engelhardt wrote: The opening title of the video describes it as a "... gided tower". Doesn't anybody proofread these things. The free climbing was absolutely insane and stupid. Show that in 3D Imax & the audience would be puking all over. Those that weren't having panic attacks and fleeing. When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. i Static line? You mean bungee-jump? I mean from an airplane. Search for static line skydiving. In static line method, one skydives alone and a line from the backpack to the plane pulls the parachute cord automatically. Ah. I believe that method is considered a bit dangerous since your chute deploys fairly close to the plane. I'd never do that since there is no backup and no time to deploy a backup anyway. I did go skydiving from 14,000' (tandem) and it was spectacular and highly recommended. With sky diving, you deploy the parachute at ~4,000' which leaves time to deploy the reserve parachute if there is a problem with the main. sounds fun. Yep, definitely spectacular. 10,000' of free fall in a minute or so at ~120 MPH, followed by 5 or 6 minutes gently gliding under the chute. |
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jeff_wisnia wrote:
Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon |
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Bob Engelhardt wrote: The opening title of the video describes it as a "... gided tower". Doesn't anybody proofread these things. The free climbing was absolutely insane and stupid. A tower that high should have a freight elevator. Of course, it would take over an hour to reach the top. Show that in 3D Imax & the audience would be puking all over. Those that weren't having panic attacks and fleeing. -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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"jeff_wisnia" wrote in message ... Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? Thanks guys, Jeff Either an error in pronunciation, or in hearing. It is "guyed" tower. Meaning it is stabilized by "guy wires". Steel cables to hold it up in the wind. Steve |
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"jeff_wisnia" wrote in message ... john wrote: Pete C. wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? It's simply copy written by someone without a clue. It's simply a guyed tower. I also seriously doubt that tower work is the most dangerous job in America by a long shot. There is a lot of safety gear used and when the weather is bad they simply don't work. Nothing like those crab fisherman or numerous other occupations working in far more dangerous conditions. Commercial divers and weldors are at or near the top of the list. John You're right about that, at least for commercial divers. The eighth paragraph on this page says the fatality rate for divers is 180 deaths per year for each 100,000 employed divers. http://www.globalsecurity.org/milita...fshore-dsv.htm The chart part way down this OSHA page says the rate for tower workers is 183.6 per year for each 100,000 workers. http://www.osha.gov/pls/oshaweb/owad...CHES&p_id=1267 I've run out of time, so I didn't look for data on welders, but I'd bet commercial underwater welders might take the prize for highest fatality rate. G Jeff Welding does not increase the danger to a diver by a very large degree. Welding underwater is considered easy diving. Getting everything rigged up and in place is the hard dangerous part. Underwater electric cutting can be hazardous, but that's because you are cutting things into parts that have to fall off or down. Steve - ex commercial diver, ex tower worker, and ex weldor. |
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On Sep 15, 6:57*pm, "Jon Danniken"
wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 |
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Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 Awesome, thanks for that. Jon |
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Guided Tour ? ;-)
Martin Martin H. Eastburn @ home at Lions' Lair with our computer lionslair at consolidated dot net "Our Republic and the Press will Rise or Fall Together": Joseph Pulitzer TSRA: Endowed; NRA LOH & Patron Member, Golden Eagle, Patriot's Medal. NRA Second Amendment Task Force Originator & Charter Founder IHMSA and NRA Metallic Silhouette maker & member. http://lufkinced.com/ On 9/15/2010 3:16 PM, Tim Wescott wrote: On 09/15/2010 11:45 AM, jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html I hadn't theard that term "guided tower" before and was not successful in finding a definition through search engines or on Wiki. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? A guided tower is just like a guided missile, only the control system is lots easier. I think it's a clueless author -- if it gets by the spell checker it must be right. I have an IEEE Spectrum magazine with an editorial that talks about a helicopter flying in "Map of the earth" mode -- that's NAP of the earth, you dingbat!!. Call it the New Illiteracy. Or maybe the Newel Iterate Sea. |
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On Sep 16, 4:45*am, jeff_wisnia
wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. Maybe it just means a tower with guy wires, but I'd expect that to be called a "guyed tower". So, maybe it means free standing without guy wires? Thanks guys, Jeff Its sloppy writing, hopefully not by the same Junior CEO who is in charge of the structural integrity safety "certification" - possibly the same guy does "gas pipeline certification" as his second job. Perhaps he also checks the reasons that "people from places that we all know are not friendly even though we have bought the current brutally repressive government " want to learn how to fly big passenger aeroplanes..... Andrew VK3BFA. Everything we hear on the news is correct, with the excpetion of those things we have personal knowledge about. |
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On Sep 15, 6:57 pm, "Jon Danniken" wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 Gone from there too already. Here's what the "owner" of that video says caused him to take it down: http://www.theonlineengineer.org/TheOLEBLOG/ The reason I made my OP asking about the use of the adjective "guided" was because that spelling appeared in the intro portion of the video, which seemed like a fairly professional piece to me. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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Cross-Slide wrote:
On Sep 15, 6:57 pm, "Jon Danniken" wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 Well, as of Thursday 1:30 PM Eeast Coast USA time its still up at: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2d_1284588370 If gone from there just Google +"Stairway To Heaven" +tower and you'll find lots of other locations. Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) The speed of light is 1.8*10e12 furlongs per fortnight. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:07 -0400, jeff_wisnia
wrote: Cross-Slide wrote: On Sep 15, 6:57 pm, "Jon Danniken" wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 Well, as of Thursday 1:30 PM Eeast Coast USA time its still up at: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2d_1284588370 If gone from there just Google +"Stairway To Heaven" +tower and you'll find lots of other locations. I just started watching that. "Why are my nuts drawn up so tightly, my breathing fast and shallow, and my heartbeat accelerated?" I wonder. I understand that flagpole painting is another fun job like this one. -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." --Edward Abbey |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:07 -0400, jeff_wisnia wrote: Cross-Slide wrote: On Sep 15, 6:57 pm, "Jon Danniken" wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 Well, as of Thursday 1:30 PM Eeast Coast USA time its still up at: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2d_1284588370 If gone from there just Google +"Stairway To Heaven" +tower and you'll find lots of other locations. I just started watching that. "Why are my nuts drawn up so tightly, my breathing fast and shallow, and my heartbeat accelerated?" I wonder. I understand that flagpole painting is another fun job like this one. If you're REALLY good, you can paint the whole flagpole as you drop to the ground. ;-) -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:08:35 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Ignoramus12523 wrote: When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. Static line? You mean bungee-jump? I'd never do that since there is no backup and no time to deploy a backup anyway. I did go skydiving from 14,000' (tandem) and it was spectacular and highly recommended. With sky diving, you deploy the parachute at ~4,000' which leaves time to deploy the reserve parachute if there is a problem with the main. A tandem jump is NOT skydiving. A tandem jump is a carny ride. Skydiving is when there's nobody up ther but you and God, and God doesn't talk to skydivers - he thinks we're crazy, and nothing between you and the ground but your parachute and your training. I wouldn't take a tandem jump if you paid me. (well, depending on how _much_ you paid me - I am a whore, after all. ;-) ) For Iggy, no, it's not a bungee-jump - it means that the ripcord is attached to the airplane, so the chute CAN'T not open. And there isn't enough money in the world to get me to bungee-jump. When I was in skydiving training, we had to take five static line jumps before we were qualified to pull our own ripcord. Cheers! Rich |
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On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:20:43 -0500, Pete C. wrote:
Yep, definitely spectacular. 10,000' of free fall in a minute or so at ~120 MPH, followed by 5 or 6 minutes gently gliding under the chute. You pull at SIX THOUSAND FEET? The parachute ride is really the most boring part of skydiving. We always used to pull at about three, the "brave" ones at two to two five. :-) Cheers! Rich |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:58:21 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote:
Larry Jaques wrote: I understand that flagpole painting is another fun job like this one. If you're REALLY good, you can paint the whole flagpole as you drop to the ground. ;-) That would be especially easy for you, Michael - you could hold two extra paintbrushes in your feet! Cheers! Rich |
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What's a "Guided Tower"
On 2010-09-16, Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:08:35 -0500, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus12523 wrote: When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. Static line? You mean bungee-jump? I'd never do that since there is no backup and no time to deploy a backup anyway. I did go skydiving from 14,000' (tandem) and it was spectacular and highly recommended. With sky diving, you deploy the parachute at ~4,000' which leaves time to deploy the reserve parachute if there is a problem with the main. A tandem jump is NOT skydiving. A tandem jump is a carny ride. Skydiving is when there's nobody up ther but you and God, and God doesn't talk to skydivers - he thinks we're crazy, and nothing between you and the ground but your parachute and your training. I wouldn't take a tandem jump if you paid me. (well, depending on how _much_ you paid me - I am a whore, after all. ;-) ) For Iggy, no, it's not a bungee-jump - it means that the ripcord is attached to the airplane, so the chute CAN'T not open. And there isn't enough money in the world to get me to bungee-jump. When I was in skydiving training, we had to take five static line jumps before we were qualified to pull our own ripcord. Did you notice how regular skydivers were adrenaline junkies? Doing random dangerous things just to get a rush? i |
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On Sep 16, 2:50*pm, Larry Jaques
wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:39:07 -0400, jeff_wisnia wrote: Cross-Slide wrote: On Sep 15, 6:57 pm, "Jon Danniken" wrote: jeff_wisnia wrote: Tower, as in radio or cellphone antenna towers. I enjoyed watching this video of a worker climbing a 1700+ foot tall tower which was referred to as a "guided tower". It was sent to me by our worker's comp insurer who stated that tower climbing was the most dangerous job in America. http://www.workerscompinsider.com/20...hink-your.html Rats, the video already got pulled. I always miss out on the good stuff. Jon Look he http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=94e_1284570385 Well, as of Thursday 1:30 PM Eeast Coast USA time its still up at: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f2d_1284588370 If gone from there just Google +"Stairway To Heaven" +tower and you'll find lots of other locations. I just started watching that. "Why are my nuts drawn up so tightly, my breathing fast and shallow, and my heartbeat accelerated?" I wonder. I understand that flagpole painting is another fun job like this one. -- "A patriot must always be ready to defend his country against his government." * * * * * * * --Edward Abbey- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - There are a variety of shows on Discovery, Science Channel, etc. that show people doing jobs like this. One showed changing a light bulb at the top of the Golden Gate bridge. I got a little queasy watching that. Another showed a crew working on the antennas on top of the Empire State building. The crew chief on that job was in his mid- fifties(as I am). I was amazed that they didn't plan for easier climbing when they built the tower. It involved climbing past obstacles that stuck out a couple of feet. I've flown open-cockpit planes, but I get nervous on ladders. Go figure. I did work on the roof of a 50-story building in NY a couple of years ago, and was nervous getting anywhere near the parapet walls. I'm glad that somebody does this work. I'm more glad that it isn't me. |
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Rich the Cynic wrote: On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:58:21 -0400, Michael A. Terrell wrote: Larry Jaques wrote: I understand that flagpole painting is another fun job like this one. If you're REALLY good, you can paint the whole flagpole as you drop to the ground. ;-) That would be especially easy for you, Michael - you could hold two extra paintbrushes in your feet! Yawn...... -- Politicians should only get paid if the budget is balanced, and there is enough left over to pay them. |
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On 9/16/2010 4:27 PM, Rich Grise wrote:
On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:20:43 -0500, Pete C. wrote: Yep, definitely spectacular. 10,000' of free fall in a minute or so at ~120 MPH, followed by 5 or 6 minutes gently gliding under the chute. You pull at SIX THOUSAND FEET? The parachute ride is really the most boring part of skydiving. We always used to pull at about three, the "brave" ones at two to two five. :-) And the BASE jumpers never _get_ as high as two. |
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Ignoramus12065 wrote:
Did you notice how regular skydivers were adrenaline junkies? Doing random dangerous things just to get a rush? My flying instructor and hangermate flew jump planes for two years. He said he was always greatly amused at the change in the jumpers' disposition the few times he had to tell them that the plane was broke and that he had to return to the field without letting them jump. Apparently that adrenaline window is rather narrow. |
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rangerssuck wrote:
I've flown open-cockpit planes, but I get nervous on ladders. Go figure. I did work on the roof of a 50-story building in NY a couple of years ago, and was nervous getting anywhere near the parapet walls. I'm glad that somebody does this work. I'm more glad that it isn't me. Many pilots have fear of heights. I've flown in helicopters with the doors removed and had a blast. I've also have a slight wave of anxiety when standing out on a narrow ledge. In my youth I had to climb a 125' tower every once in a while. I just kept telling myself that you can fall and die from 15' just as easily as 125'. |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 17:41:34 -0400, J. Clarke wrote:
On 9/16/2010 4:27 PM, Rich Grise wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:20:43 -0500, Pete C. wrote: Yep, definitely spectacular. 10,000' of free fall in a minute or so at ~120 MPH, followed by 5 or 6 minutes gently gliding under the chute. You pull at SIX THOUSAND FEET? The parachute ride is really the most boring part of skydiving. We always used to pull at about three, the "brave" ones at two to two five. :-) And the BASE jumpers never _get_ as high as two. To me, BASE jumping is just as stupid as bungee jumping or hang gliding. ;-) Cheers! Rich |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:36:33 -0500, Ignoramus12065 wrote:
On 2010-09-16, Rich Grise wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:08:35 -0500, Pete C. wrote: Ignoramus12523 wrote: When my older son was 3, I took him to Imax, he almost vomited. I would say that you are right. I have a fear of height too, though I did skydive once, using a static line method. It was quite scary. Static line? You mean bungee-jump? I'd never do that since there is no backup and no time to deploy a backup anyway. I did go skydiving from 14,000' (tandem) and it was spectacular and highly recommended. With sky diving, you deploy the parachute at ~4,000' which leaves time to deploy the reserve parachute if there is a problem with the main. A tandem jump is NOT skydiving. A tandem jump is a carny ride. Skydiving is when there's nobody up ther but you and God, and God doesn't talk to skydivers - he thinks we're crazy, and nothing between you and the ground but your parachute and your training. I wouldn't take a tandem jump if you paid me. (well, depending on how _much_ you paid me - I am a whore, after all. ;-) ) For Iggy, no, it's not a bungee-jump - it means that the ripcord is attached to the airplane, so the chute CAN'T not open. And there isn't enough money in the world to get me to bungee-jump. When I was in skydiving training, we had to take five static line jumps before we were qualified to pull our own ripcord. Did you notice how regular skydivers were adrenaline junkies? Doing random dangerous things just to get a rush? Most newbies, after their awareness jump, at one time or another say, "That's the most fun I've ever had with my pants on!" Cheers! Rich |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 14:56:07 -0700, Jim Stewart wrote:
Ignoramus12065 wrote: Did you notice how regular skydivers were adrenaline junkies? Doing random dangerous things just to get a rush? My flying instructor and hangermate flew jump planes for two years. He said he was always greatly amused at the change in the jumpers' disposition the few times he had to tell them that the plane was broke and that he had to return to the field without letting them jump. Apparently that adrenaline window is rather narrow. I'd definitely rather jump out of a broken plane than try to land in it. Statistically, it's safer. ;-) Cheers! Rich |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 13:27:54 -0700, Rich Grise
wrote: On Wed, 15 Sep 2010 17:20:43 -0500, Pete C. wrote: Yep, definitely spectacular. 10,000' of free fall in a minute or so at ~120 MPH, followed by 5 or 6 minutes gently gliding under the chute. You pull at SIX THOUSAND FEET? The parachute ride is really the most boring part of skydiving. We always used to pull at about three, the "brave" ones at two to two five. :-) Cheers! Rich The canopy ride wasn't ALWAYS the most boring part. If you had a ram air canopy like I did and the target was in a bowl with a three hundred foot hill and the wind was blowing right you could have a lot of fun and test your flying skills by slope soaring for as long as possible. Unfortunately, the Strato-Star wasn't made for soaring and had a pretty good rate of descent. I was still able to make two or three passes along the length of the hill before having to turn to the target. Jim D-4501 |
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On Thu, 16 Sep 2010 15:01:44 -0700, Jim Stewart
wrote: rangerssuck wrote: I've flown open-cockpit planes, but I get nervous on ladders. Go figure. I did work on the roof of a 50-story building in NY a couple of years ago, and was nervous getting anywhere near the parapet walls. I'm glad that somebody does this work. I'm more glad that it isn't me. Many pilots have fear of heights. I've flown in helicopters with the doors removed and had a blast. I've also have a slight wave of anxiety when standing out on a narrow ledge. In my youth I had to climb a 125' tower every once in a while. I just kept telling myself that you can fall and die from 15' just as easily as 125'. As I used to tell my skydiving students, the fall doesn't hurt but that last 1/8" is a bitch! Jim D-4501 |
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