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Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and
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On 9/9/2010 9:07 AM, Steve B wrote:
Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Many of us fail to genuflect in his presence. Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. One can only hope! -- I can see November from my front porch |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. |
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On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:31:58 -0400, Buerste wrote:
It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. What's all this hoopla about a "black" president? What happened to: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ content of their character. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...uth115056.html If we had really made racial progress, then when a "black" president was elected, nobody would notice. Thanks, Rich |
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It's not a President's job to "run the country". He has specific job
duties which are spelled out in the Constitution. You don't think he meant to spend the country into bankrupcy and ruin the economy? What have the folks in Chicago been doing, since Zero is not bankrupting and collapsing intentionally? How's his home turf doing, now? -- Christopher A. Young Learn more about Jesus www.lds.org .. "Buerste" wrote in message ... It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. |
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"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. I shall refrain from using the two words that would accurately describe him. Steve |
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"Richard the Dreaded Libertarian" wrote in message news On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:31:58 -0400, Buerste wrote: It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. What's all this hoopla about a "black" president? What happened to: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ content of their character. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...uth115056.html If we had really made racial progress, then when a "black" president was elected, nobody would notice. Thanks, Rich If the guy was on the up and up, I wouldn't care if he was purple, green, mauve, or puce. Maybe even ecru. Actions speak louder than words, and so far, all we have heard are words. The actions speak for themselves. Steve |
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In article , Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
What's all this hoopla about a "black" president? What happened to: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ content of their character. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...uth115056.html Amen. If we had really made racial progress, then when a "black" president was elected, nobody would notice. Hoping that people won't notice such an obvious physical characteristic is still a bit much, I think. I'll be quite happy when society reaches the point where nobody *cares*. Nobody *noticing* is a few generations away yet. |
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"Stormin Mormon" wrote in message ... It's not a President's job to "run the country". He has specific job duties which are spelled out in the Constitution. You don't think he meant to spend the country into bankrupcy and ruin the economy? What have the folks in Chicago been doing, since Zero is not bankrupting and collapsing intentionally? How's his home turf doing, now? -- Exactly! Chicago is all he knows. And, just look at Chicago, there goes the nation if leftists have their way. |
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote:
On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:31:58 -0400, Buerste wrote: It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. What's all this hoopla about a "black" president? What happened to: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ content of their character. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ Well, if judged by THAT criteria, he really sucks. -- Richard Lamb |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. I shall refrain from using the two words that would accurately describe him. Steve Two words are too many and a thousand are not enough. |
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"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? |
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"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. I shall refrain from using the two words that would accurately describe him. Steve Two words are too many and a thousand are not enough. I shall say the first, since I feel so compelled to do so ......... dumb ............... fill in the blank. Steve |
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ATP wrote:
"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? And the Great Society was under Johnson... -- Richard Lamb |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. I shall refrain from using the two words that would accurately describe him. Steve Two words are too many and a thousand are not enough. I shall say the first, since I feel so compelled to do so ......... dumb ............... fill in the blank. Steve Gee, I think I'm psychic! |
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"ATP" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? Face facts! Obama and Democrats OWN this mess. But, you're not a fact-facer. |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 03:31:58 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote: "ATP" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? Face facts! Obama and Democrats OWN this mess. But, you're not a fact-facer. I'm reading Heinlein's _The Cat Who Walks Through Walls_ now and got a chuckle at one of the quotes he used to start chapters: Democracy can withstand anything except democrats. -J Harshaw, 1904 -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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Larry Jaques fired this volley in
: I'm reading Heinlein's _The Cat Who Walks Through Walls_ now and got a chuckle at one of the quotes he used to start chapters: Funny story, that. 'tis probably time to read it again. LLoyd |
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"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... "Buerste" wrote in message ... "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. I shall refrain from using the two words that would accurately describe him. Steve Two words are too many and a thousand are not enough. I shall say the first, since I feel so compelled to do so ......... dumb ............... fill in the blank. Steve Gee, I think I'm psychic! Uh, I think that's pronounced psychotic. |
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Some dickhead I have plonked wrote:
Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? That makes as much sense as being blamed for the sins and crimes of an ex-husband. Steve |
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"Steve B" wrote in message ... Some dickhead I have plonked wrote: Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? That makes as much sense as being blamed for the sins and crimes of an ex-husband. Steve I wouldn't blame you for the sins and crimes of your ex-husband. You're another semi-literate loser blaming everyone else for his failures in life. The country was on the brink of financial disaster during the Bush administration. Since then, we've managed to at least avoid a melt down and there have been some small improvements. |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 07:47:11 -0500, "Lloyd E. Sponenburgh"
lloydspinsidemindspring.com wrote: Larry Jaques fired this volley in : I'm reading Heinlein's _The Cat Who Walks Through Walls_ now and got a chuckle at one of the quotes he used to start chapters: Funny story, that. 'tis probably time to read it again. I had forgotten how good it was, having read it 30+ years ago. Another quote: Premenstrual Syndrome: Just before their periods, women behave the way men do all the time. --Lowell Stone, M.D., 2144 -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:31:58 -0400, Buerste wrote: It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. What's all this hoopla about a "black" president? What happened to: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ content of their character. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...uth115056.html If we had really made racial progress, then when a "black" president was elected, nobody would notice. Thanks, Rich I for one didn't notice. What I did notice is that we elected yet another politician, and indeed one from one of the top three most corrupt cities in the country. I also noticed that we elected a politician with little experience or track record with witch to judge his abilities by. It makes no difference whether you paint them brown, glue boobs on them, stick a book-o-superstition (any flavor) in their hand, etc. all politicians are wretched scum. |
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On 9/9/2010 7:07 AM, Steve B wrote:
Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. He's not even fifty years old and is thin and in good shape. I don't think that describes you, does it. Old, broken down, white man, with few years left is your description. Count yourself lucky you were alive to see the first minority president in history. Count yourself unlucky that you couldn't appreciate him or the job he has done getting the country out of the hole that your last choice of president left us in. Hawke |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:37:14 -0500, "Pete C."
wrote: Richard the Dreaded Libertarian wrote: On Thu, 09 Sep 2010 15:31:58 -0400, Buerste wrote: It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. What's all this hoopla about a "black" president? What happened to: "I have a dream that my four little children will one day live in a nation where they will not be judged by the color of their skin, but by the ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ ^^ content of their character. " ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ --- http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/qu...uth115056.html If we had really made racial progress, then when a "black" president was elected, nobody would notice. Thanks, Rich I for one didn't notice. What I did notice is that we elected yet another politician, and indeed one from one of the top three most corrupt cities in the country. I also noticed that we elected a politician with little experience or track record with witch to judge his abilities by. It makes no difference whether you paint them brown, glue boobs on them, stick a book-o-superstition (any flavor) in their hand, etc. all politicians are wretched scum. Ya got it in one, Pete. -- Happiness comes of the capacity to feel deeply, to enjoy simply, to think freely, to risk life, to be needed. -- Storm Jameson |
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On 9/9/2010 5:13 PM, Buerste wrote:
"Stormin wrote in message ... It's not a President's job to "run the country". He has specific job duties which are spelled out in the Constitution. You don't think he meant to spend the country into bankrupcy and ruin the economy? What have the folks in Chicago been doing, since Zero is not bankrupting and collapsing intentionally? How's his home turf doing, now? -- Exactly! Chicago is all he knows. And, just look at Chicago, there goes the nation if leftists have their way. It's very unfortunate that we already saw what happened to the nation when the right wing had their way. When done they left the country in the worst shape it has been in since the great Depression. Funny how you guys always forget where your side left us when they were through. I have to remind you that the country was in the worst shape in 70 years after the republicans finished running things. They left town and left Obama with a wreck of a country on his hands. Did you forget that? Or are you pretending that Bush handed off a well run and prosperous country? Face it, so far Obama is doing much better than Bush. Count on you right wingers to deny it and say Bush did a heck of a job, just like Brownie. Did you think Obama was supposed to have the country back to prosperity in less than two years? Really? Hawke |
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In article , Hawke wrote:
Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. He's not even fifty years old and is thin and in good shape. I don't think that describes you, does it. Old, broken down, white man, with few years left is your description. Count yourself lucky you were alive to see the first minority president in history. Count yourself unlucky that you couldn't appreciate him or the job he has done getting the country out of the hole that your last choice of president left us in. Pigeon, can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some really good sh*t. "The job he has done getting the country out of the hole [Bush] left us in" -- you're insane. The Federal deficit is far higher now than when Bush left office; so is the unemployment rate; so is the home foreclosure rate -- how, exactly, has he or anyone else gotten the country "out of the hole"? By any measure, we're in a *much* deeper hole now than two years ago. |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 20:24:06 -0700, Hawke
wrote: snip Did you think Obama was supposed to have the country back to prosperity in less than two years? Really? =========== A major part of the problem is attempting to "cure" the problem without changing anything. While it is doubtful anyone could [or should] have gotten the country back 2005-2007 normality, some progress should have been made, even if it was just criminal trials of thse responsible, both in government and business/finance. While there has been great amounts of Congressional soap opera and Punch-n-Judy shows for the masses of asses, policy changes are limited to re-arranging the deck chairs as the Titanic slowly disappears beneath the water. While there are different names on the door, e.g. Timothy F. Geithner in place of Henry "Bazooka" Paulson, their background and world view [finance and doctrinaire global free traders], in most cases is identical, and in any case the civil service support staff [with their own agenda]remains in place. Glass-Steagall has still not been reenacted. The "CFTC Modernization Act of 2000" exempting derivatives and other commodity trades and FX from most oversight, regulation and financial responsibility has not been repealed. There have been no RICO indictments, of the officers, directors and cadre management accountable for the latest and greatest asset bubble and economic implosion. There have been a very few criminal prosecutions of any kind and these only of bit players. The regulatory fines levied against the acountable corporations are so small, relative to their size and profits they made, as to be not even a slap on the wrist, but more of a pat. Because of the double jeopardy provisions, that is the end of the "problem," for the corporation, but the taxpayer is just beginning to pay for the damages caused. The financial "reform" and health care "reform" packages are 2000+ page jokes that leave the same people that caused the problems in charge, and responsible for the studies, recommendations and "new" regulations that may be required. -- Unka George (George McDuffee) ............................... The past is a foreign country; they do things differently there. L. P. Hartley (1895-1972), British author. The Go-Between, Prologue (1953). |
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On Thu, 9 Sep 2010 15:31:58 -0400, "Buerste"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve It's time for all of us to give the poor guy a break. He had no idea that his reign wouldn't be as easy as "organizing a community". In 2 years he has visibly aged 10 years. He's the best campaigner this world has ever seen but the nuts & bolts work of actually running the country into prosperity is just beyond his capabilities. It wasn't his intention to ruin the economy, hurt people and monkey-wrench the economic machine that creates jobs and wealth. Unfortunately, he surrounded himself with idealogs rather than functional, experienced accomplishers. One of the best things to come out of this is that the citizens will remember this failed experiment for a long time. Now, everybody including moderate Democrats know that substance rather than flash is needed to run this country. He didn't know any better. It's a shame that our first Black President isn't an astounding success. I hope it doesn't affects the next serious Black contender's bid for the office. The Democrats should have never used race as a chip in the game. The far-left bought into racism hook-line-and-sinker. We all need to hope he can rise to the occasion and minimize the damage he's doing with his naïveté. But he wont. He is positive..with the backing of his Leftwing syncophants..that His Way is the right way..and there lies the danger. When its all done.....the end result will be remembered for centuries. And all those peaceful parks over the jumbled bodies of the leftwingers will be fully understood........ I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:33:23 -0400, "ATP"
wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Some dickhead I have plonked wrote: Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? That makes as much sense as being blamed for the sins and crimes of an ex-husband. Steve I wouldn't blame you for the sins and crimes of your ex-husband. You're another semi-literate loser blaming everyone else for his failures in life. The country was on the brink of financial disaster during the Bush administration. Since then, we've managed to at least avoid a melt down and there have been some small improvements. We have? And which small improvements? The process has been a series of steps downward. And we are NOT in the basement yet. I am the Sword of my Family and the Shield of my Nation. If sent, I will crush everything you have built, burn everything you love, and kill every one of you. (Hebrew quote) |
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On 9/11/2010 2:21 AM, Buerste wrote:
wrote in message ... On 9/9/2010 7:07 AM, Steve B wrote: Does Barry look ****ed off ALL THE TIME! Those veins in his forehead and neck are going to explode one of these days. Can't wait. Steve Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. He's not even fifty years old and is thin and in good shape. I don't think that describes you, does it. Old, broken down, white man, with few years left is your description. Count yourself lucky you were alive to see the first minority president in history. Count yourself unlucky that you couldn't appreciate him or the job he has done getting the country out of the hole that your last choice of president left us in. Hawke When's he going to stop digging? When he gets to China? |
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Gunner Asch wrote: On Fri, 10 Sep 2010 13:33:23 -0400, "ATP" wrote: "Steve B" wrote in message ... Some dickhead I have plonked wrote: Is that what GW Bush ran this country into? Do you realize TARP was passed under the Bush administration? That makes as much sense as being blamed for the sins and crimes of an ex-husband. Steve I wouldn't blame you for the sins and crimes of your ex-husband. You're another semi-literate loser blaming everyone else for his failures in life. The country was on the brink of financial disaster during the Bush administration. Since then, we've managed to at least avoid a melt down and there have been some small improvements. We have? And which small improvements? We have, you just need to move to a different part of the country (such as Texas) to see them. It's abundantly clear that the economic recovery has been occurring in some states and not others. The process has been a series of steps downward. And we are NOT in the basement yet. For People's Republik of Kalifornia this is true... |
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"Buerste" wrote in message ... "Hawke" wrote in message ... On 9/9/2010 5:13 PM, Buerste wrote: "Stormin wrote in message ... It's not a President's job to "run the country". He has specific job duties which are spelled out in the Constitution. You don't think he meant to spend the country into bankrupcy and ruin the economy? What have the folks in Chicago been doing, since Zero is not bankrupting and collapsing intentionally? How's his home turf doing, now? -- Exactly! Chicago is all he knows. And, just look at Chicago, there goes the nation if leftists have their way. It's very unfortunate that we already saw what happened to the nation when the right wing had their way. When done they left the country in the worst shape it has been in since the great Depression. Funny how you guys always forget where your side left us when they were through. I have to remind you that the country was in the worst shape in 70 years after the republicans finished running things. They left town and left Obama with a wreck of a country on his hands. Did you forget that? Or are you pretending that Bush handed off a well run and prosperous country? Face it, so far Obama is doing much better than Bush. Count on you right wingers to deny it and say Bush did a heck of a job, just like Brownie. Did you think Obama was supposed to have the country back to prosperity in less than two years? Really? Hawke Right out of the far-far-far-far left handbook! Well regurgitated! As with bulimics and anorexics, regurgitation can become a very finely honed skill with all the nuances of any obsession. One can master it to the nth degree, and yet great slices of society have no idea of the practice. Like being a fine watch repairman or a gnat circumciser, it involves precision that is lost on the masses. Steve |
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Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. Don't hold YOUR breath. The man is one nutcase away from history. Other than that, Mr. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play? Steve Oh, Gawd, the silent invisible black helicopters are circling.......................................... ............... |
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On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:44:11 GMT, (Doug Miller)
wrote: In article , Hawke wrote: Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. He's not even fifty years old and is thin and in good shape. I don't think that describes you, does it. Old, broken down, white man, with few years left is your description. Count yourself lucky you were alive to see the first minority president in history. Count yourself unlucky that you couldn't appreciate him or the job he has done getting the country out of the hole that your last choice of president left us in. Pigeon, can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some really good sh*t. "The job he has done getting the country out of the hole [Bush] left us in" -- you're insane. The Federal deficit is far higher now than when Bush left office; so is the unemployment rate; so is the home foreclosure rate -- how, exactly, has he or anyone else gotten the country "out of the hole"? By any measure, we're in a *much* deeper hole now than two years ago. http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2...agshoulder.jpg And your straight? Maybe you should start smoking something. Wrap the car around an oak tree and then bitch cause somebody can't make it like new in two years. It really is beyond me how deep the denial can be, that bozo really screwed the pooch. That guy was like driving around with an open bottle of nitrous oxide on the floorboard and the window rolled up tight. SW |
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Steve B wrote:
Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. Don't hold YOUR breath. The man is one nutcase away from history. Other than that, Mr. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play? Steve Oh, Gawd, the silent invisible black helicopters are circling.......................................... ............... There is more subtlety to aluminum foil hats than is apparent at first glance. Shiny side out to reflect the mind rays. Shiny side in to keep others from reading your thoughts. -- Richard Lamb |
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In article , Sunworshipper wrote:
On Sat, 11 Sep 2010 03:44:11 GMT, (Doug Miller) wrote: In article , Hawke wrote: Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. He's not even fifty years old and is thin and in good shape. I don't think that describes you, does it. Old, broken down, white man, with few years left is your description. Count yourself lucky you were alive to see the first minority president in history. Count yourself unlucky that you couldn't appreciate him or the job he has done getting the country out of the hole that your last choice of president left us in. Pigeon, can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some really good sh*t. "The job he has done getting the country out of the hole [Bush] left us in" -- you're insane. The Federal deficit is far higher now than when Bush left office; so is the unemployment rate; so is the home foreclosure rate -- how, exactly, has he or anyone else gotten the country "out of the hole"? By any measure, we're in a *much* deeper hole now than two years ago. http://img190.imageshack.us/img190/2...agshoulder.jpg And your straight? Maybe you should start smoking something. Wrap the car around an oak tree and then bitch cause somebody can't make it like new in two years. Learn to read, bozo. I wasn't bitching because Obama hasn't fixed things. All I said was that Pigeon is insane because he claimed that he *had*. |
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"CaveLamb" wrote in message ... Steve B wrote: Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. Don't hold YOUR breath. The man is one nutcase away from history. Other than that, Mr. Lincoln, did you enjoy the play? Steve Oh, Gawd, the silent invisible black helicopters are circling.......................................... ............... There is more subtlety to aluminum foil hats than is apparent at first glance. Shiny side out to reflect the mind rays. Shiny side in to keep others from reading your thoughts. -- Richard Lamb I prefer a seven ply weave myself alternating shiny and dull. That cancels any stray rays and beams, and gives it a look like it could be a very expensive boutique hat. BTW, there was a program on tv that told why foil is shiny on one side. It is run through rollers two ply. The rollers get a bath of lubricant liquid. The two outer sides that contact the rollers are shiny, and the two sides that contact each other are dull. The white coated cooking ladies said there was absolutely no difference in the two sides, so now I must write a letter off and inform them of their error. Steve ;-) |
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On 9/10/2010 8:44 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
In , wrote: Don't hold your breath. He's going to be here long after you're gone. He's not even fifty years old and is thin and in good shape. I don't think that describes you, does it. Old, broken down, white man, with few years left is your description. Count yourself lucky you were alive to see the first minority president in history. Count yourself unlucky that you couldn't appreciate him or the job he has done getting the country out of the hole that your last choice of president left us in. Pigeon, can I have some of what you're smoking? It must be some really good sh*t. "The job he has done getting the country out of the hole [Bush] left us in" -- you're insane. The Federal deficit is far higher now than when Bush left office; so is the unemployment rate; so is the home foreclosure rate -- how, exactly, has he or anyone else gotten the country "out of the hole"? By any measure, we're in a *much* deeper hole now than two years ago. I guess you just don't have access to economic statistics or information on the economy. Oh wait, you have a computer. So you do have access. Then why don't you know the facts? Not smart enough to find them or are too partisan to admit anything good that your opponent does? Either way you aren't telling the truth. It is true that some things have not improved or have not improved as much as we wanted. But things are a lot better than the day Obama took over. That month over 700K people lost their jobs. This year jobs are being produced instead of lost. 700K lost vs jobs created. That's a biggie. But the fact is the recession started in 2007 at least according to the economists. That's like an avalanche. Once it gets going it keeps going until it stops. That means all the negative data on housing and unemployment started back then and it's just now starting to be stopped. It took years for the misguided policies that caused the problems to come to an end. But the fact is many things are better. The stock market is better. Businesses have trillions of dollars of cash on hand. Mergers and acquisitions are being done more and more. People are saving money and are paying off debt instead of incurring more. Businesses are making lots of profit. Airlines and hotels are seeing increases in business customers. All kinds of things are much better than they were when Obama took over. I just don't understand why you aren't able to find any of them. Do you want me to help you find out where you can get the information? Because all you seem to know is that unemployment is still bad and the deficit is big. That's only a tiny bit of what is going on. Too bad you don't seem to know about the rest of it. Hawke |