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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected,
and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
On 2010-05-25, Ignoramus13363 wrote:
We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? I mean "sticker" |
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I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of
all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
Larry Fishel wrote:
I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". -- Richard Lamb |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
On May 24, 9:42*pm, cavelamb wrote:
Larry Fishel wrote: I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". -- Richard Lamb About thirty years ago I saw a handmade sign in a run down area with the message "Thieves will be castrated." DL |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
In article , Ignoramus13363 wrote:
We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" Dunno about that... but I remember reading, years ago, about a store owner who was fed up with breakins in the middle of the night. His solution was to post a sign reading "This store protected by shotgun three nights a week -- YOU GUESS WHICH THREE" |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
On Mon, 24 May 2010 19:39:17 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E."
wrote: Ignoramus13363 wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? It could go either way. If the thieves are hitting unoccupied houses (while the homeowners are at work), it might not be a god idea to advertise such attractive contents. Paint a chalk outline on the front steps. ;-) http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/001828.html -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
Ignoramus13363 wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i Do not call attention to yourself or your house in any way. Do whatever you can to ensure that your neighbor's house is an easier target, i.e. better locks, better lighting, surveillance cameras, etc. Dialing 911 or not dialing 911 only work when you are home, so unless you are home 24x365 they are empty threats. |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
"Ignoramus13363" wrote in message news We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i Given the way the courts are ruling these days, why give some young ADA, eager to make a name for themselves, any ammo to prosecute you? Art |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
On Mon, 24 May 2010 21:12:43 -0500, Ignoramus13363
wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i Might work for just kidding bluff. If you might actually shoot an invader, the perp's attorney in the almost certain resulting civil suit will thank you kindly for such a display because it prolaims belligerent disdain of police and civil authority. |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
cavelamb wrote: Larry Fishel wrote: I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". Or the faded old, hand painted sign on a farm fence: 'Trespassers will be prostituted'. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... cavelamb wrote: Larry Fishel wrote: I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". Or the faded old, hand painted sign on a farm fence: 'Trespassers will be prostituted'. -- A British research lab was being broken into a lot. They put up a sign saying: "Trespassers will be experimented upon". The break-ins ended. Steve R. |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
A friend who was burgled made up stickers for his windows with "I hate
you *******s" on them. Well, made him feel better. Jordan Michael A. Terrell wrote: Or the faded old, hand painted sign on a farm fence: 'Trespassers will be prostituted'. |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
Ignoramus13363 wrote:
We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i I'd rather have one that says "What the dogs leave will be fed to the pig." Did you know that a full grown pig can consume flesh at the rate of 4.5 pounds per minute ? Cut thru bones like butter ... As others have said , the fewer people who know you have guns the better . Unless , of course , you have a couple of rather large and well trained dogs (I do ...) to keep an eye on things (they do ...) when you're not at home . -- Snag A practice silhouette with the chest area shot out taped to the door works well too ... |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
On 2010-05-25, Artemus wrote:
"Ignoramus13363" wrote in message news We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i Given the way the courts are ruling these days, why give some young ADA, eager to make a name for themselves, any ammo to prosecute you? prosecute me for what? |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
Or, as they say in Oklahoma, "Come on in - make my day"
Bob Swinney "Gunner Asch" wrote in message ... On Mon, 24 May 2010 19:39:17 -0700, "Paul Hovnanian P.E." wrote: Ignoramus13363 wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? It could go either way. If the thieves are hitting unoccupied houses (while the homeowners are at work), it might not be a god idea to advertise such attractive contents. Paint a chalk outline on the front steps. ;-) http://www.grouchyoldcripple.com/archives/001828.html -- "First Law of Leftist Debate The more you present a leftist with factual evidence that is counter to his preconceived world view and the more difficult it becomes for him to refute it without losing face the chance of him calling you a racist, bigot, homophobe approaches infinity. This is despite the thread you are in having not mentioned race or sexual preference in any way that is relevant to the subject." Grey Ghost |
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On 2010-05-25, Robert Swinney wrote:
Or, as they say in Oklahoma, "Come on in - make my day" Oklahoma has a great "make my day" law. It fully shields homeowners from any liability (criminal or civil) under well defined circumstances. http://www.oscn.net/applications/osc...p?citeID=69782 i |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
On 05/24/2010 07:12 PM, Ignoramus13363 wrote:
We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? Were I a thief I'd take it as just so much bloviating and I'd make sure I looked for the guns while I was trashing your house. But then, even if I had no conscience I have better things to do with my time than steal a bunch of your crap that I don't need and can't sell -- particularly when I'd have to drive all the way to Illinois to do it. So what do I know? -- Tim Wescott Control system and signal processing consulting www.wescottdesign.com |
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Effect of "I do not call 911" stickers?
Ignoramus13363 wrote:
We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? Here's my plan: 1. A dog that loves to bark. 2. A box on the side of the house that looks like a security controller. 3. Never and I mean never let papers, collection bags, etc, build up on the porch or front yard longer than 8 hours. Unless I'm targeted for some reason, there's about a 100% chance that a burglar would look for (and find) a tastier victim on my block. |
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Jordan wrote: A friend who was burgled made up stickers for his windows with "I hate you *******s" on them. Well, made him feel better. How about a signpost with pointers to the local graveyards, and the distance to each? ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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Jim Stewart wrote: Ignoramus13363 wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? Here's my plan: 1. A dog that loves to bark. 2. A box on the side of the house that looks like a security controller. 3. Never and I mean never let papers, collection bags, etc, build up on the porch or front yard longer than 8 hours. Unless I'm targeted for some reason, there's about a 100% chance that a burglar would look for (and find) a tastier victim on my block. A couple of thoughts on Jim Stewarts (above) post: 1) I don't have dog... just don't have the time to properly care for one. But I do have a couple of beware of dog signs, two large beat up stainless steel dog bowls and a couple of tennis balls. I keep the bowls near the back end of my driveway where anyone looking over the gate can't miss them. The balls are also kept in view... and all are moved around regularly. 2) As far as papers and flyers accumulating... yes have someone you trust remove them regularly. However, as far as stopping newspapers and mail goes, I don't think this such a good idea. Through the years there have been numerous burglars and burglary rings found to have operated on inside info from postal and newspaper employees. Same deal with 'notifying' alarm company's you'll be gone. In cold country, have your trusted friend keep your snow tracked up as well. The less people that know your business the better... as Jim said above, if you make the little burglar ******* uncomfortable, he'll likely look elsewhere unless he has a specific reason to target you. Erik |
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On 5/24/2010 11:39 PM, Doug Miller wrote:
911" Dunno about that... but I remember reading, years ago, about a store owner who was fed up with breakins in the middle of the night. His solution was to post a sign reading "This store protected by shotgun three nights a week -- YOU GUESS WHICH THREE" The way I heard it- An old guy was tired of having his hunting cabin broken into. He put up a sign: Set guns are illegal So is trespassing I've made my choice Now you make yours Kevin Gallimore |
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axolotl wrote:
The way I heard it- An old guy was tired of having his hunting cabin broken into. He put up a sign: Set guns are illegal So is trespassing I've made my choice Now you make yours I like that one. Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Ignoramus13363 wrote:
Given the way the courts are ruling these days, why give some young ADA, eager to make a name for themselves, any ammo to prosecute you? prosecute me for what? The implied threat that burgulars will be killed. They have rights you know. (Too many). Wes -- "Additionally as a security officer, I carry a gun to protect government officials but my life isn't worth protecting at home in their eyes." Dick Anthony Heller |
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Larry Jaques wrote: On Mon, 24 May 2010 23:51:26 -0500, Don Foreman wrote the following: On Mon, 24 May 2010 21:12:43 -0500, Ignoramus13363 wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i Might work for just kidding bluff. If you might actually shoot an invader, the perp's attorney in the almost certain resulting civil suit will thank you kindly for such a display because it prolaims belligerent disdain of police and civil authority. Some folks might shoot the perp's family, attorney, and ADA, too. In for a penny... The Henry Bowman Philosophy: After the first one, the rest are free? |
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On Mon, 24 May 2010 21:12:43 -0500, Ignoramus13363
wrote: We had a burglary in our neighborhood, which was kind of unexpected, and it made me wonder: if I put a few stickers on my house saying "I don't call 911" http://www.cafepress.com/+i_dont_cal...cker,388161391 Would it deter burglars or would they actually want to go in to try to steal guns, assuming that there is no such stocker without guns inside? i I vote for nothing. If the balloting is for the cutest sign, i vote for "Shoot, Shovel and Shutup Security Co." |
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"Steve R." wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... cavelamb wrote: Larry Fishel wrote: I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". Or the faded old, hand painted sign on a farm fence: 'Trespassers will be prostituted'. -- A British research lab was being broken into a lot. They put up a sign saying: "Trespassers will be experimented upon". The break-ins ended. Did the lab research 'British Food'? ;-) -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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"Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "Steve R." wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... cavelamb wrote: Larry Fishel wrote: I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". Or the faded old, hand painted sign on a farm fence: 'Trespassers will be prostituted'. -- A British research lab was being broken into a lot. They put up a sign saying: "Trespassers will be experimented upon". The break-ins ended. Did the lab research 'British Food'? ;-) Suggested sign: Captured trespassers will be sold to laboratories to replace animals. (Well, they *are* somewhat closer to human than your average rat, aren't they?) |
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On Wed, 26 May 2010 18:24:35 -0400, John Husvar
wrote: Suggested sign: Captured trespassers will be sold to laboratories to replace animals. (Well, they *are* somewhat closer to human than your average rat, aren't they?) Trespassers with malicious intent are closer to rats than your average human. |
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John Husvar wrote: In article , "Michael A. Terrell" wrote: "Steve R." wrote: "Michael A. Terrell" wrote in message m... cavelamb wrote: Larry Fishel wrote: I assume most burglars are probably already aware that about half of all homes contain guns. I also assume that most of them know to wait until no one's home (at lest the ones that have lived very long at it). I'm not convinced these stickers/signs make much difference either way. "Intruders will be raped and then eaten." My all time favorite is "Trespassers will be violated". Or the faded old, hand painted sign on a farm fence: 'Trespassers will be prostituted'. -- A British research lab was being broken into a lot. They put up a sign saying: "Trespassers will be experimented upon". The break-ins ended. Did the lab research 'British Food'? ;-) Suggested sign: Captured trespassers will be sold to laboratories to replace animals. (Well, they *are* somewhat closer to human than your average rat, aren't they?) If you can sell them in the dark, and the lab doesn't get a good look first. -- Anyone wanting to run for any political office in the US should have to have a DD214, and a honorable discharge. |
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