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Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?


It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.
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Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?


It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.


OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i
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Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?


It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.


OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i


Snowplows work by pushing snow

There are very minimal controls on one, some are power lift only and
some have power angle. Most have solenoid valve control, but I think a
few used mechanical push-pull cable control to the valve(s). Electric
hydraulic pump, with a contactor to turn it on whenever a control is
moved. Welding mount adapters should be the bulk of the project.
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Ignoramus30639 wrote:

On 2010-03-25, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?

It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.


OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.


Snowplows work by pushing snow


No kidding./ ;-)

There are very minimal controls on one, some are power lift only and
some have power angle. Most have solenoid valve control, but I think a
few used mechanical push-pull cable control to the valve(s). Electric
hydraulic pump, with a contactor to turn it on whenever a control is
moved. Welding mount adapters should be the bulk of the project.


I think that this one has a solenoid valve control.

The control that came with it, seems beaten up, I may want to replace
it.

i


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Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?


It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.


OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i


What's the number for the Cook county sheriff? I need to report a robbery.

I've used a snow plow like this quite bit in the past. They are REAL HARD
on your pickup. So much so, that I sold the plow and bought a snow blower.
I went through two auto trannies and had to have the frame mounting
re-welded. But I did make a fair amount of cash doing parking lots.

Karl


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Ignoramus30639 wrote:

On 2010-03-25, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?

It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.

OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.


Snowplows work by pushing snow


No kidding./ ;-)

There are very minimal controls on one, some are power lift only and
some have power angle. Most have solenoid valve control, but I think a
few used mechanical push-pull cable control to the valve(s). Electric
hydraulic pump, with a contactor to turn it on whenever a control is
moved. Welding mount adapters should be the bulk of the project.


I think that this one has a solenoid valve control.

The control that came with it, seems beaten up, I may want to replace
it.

i


Replacement parts are readily available, as are rebuild kits for seals,
Northern Tool carries a lot of them.
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On 2010-03-25, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?

It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.


OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i


What's the number for the Cook county sheriff? I need to report a robbery.


DuPage county

I've used a snow plow like this quite bit in the past. They are REAL HARD
on your pickup. So much so, that I sold the plow and bought a snow blower.
I went through two auto trannies and had to have the frame mounting
re-welded. But I did make a fair amount of cash doing parking lots.


What kind of pickup did you have?

Could it be that you simply were too hard on your truck? Like, you
tried to push continuously?

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Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?

It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.

OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i


What's the number for the Cook county sheriff? I need to report a robbery.


DuPage county

I've used a snow plow like this quite bit in the past. They are REAL HARD
on your pickup. So much so, that I sold the plow and bought a snow blower.
I went through two auto trannies and had to have the frame mounting
re-welded. But I did make a fair amount of cash doing parking lots.


What kind of pickup did you have?

Could it be that you simply were too hard on your truck? Like, you
tried to push continuously?

i


Pushing continuously is the easy part, the hard part is all the slamming
back and forth between forward and reverse gears and never getting
enough speed to lock the torque converter. Heat is the enemy of an
automatic transmission and that type of activity heats them up big time.
There also isn't enough airflow at those low speeds for the normal
transmission coolers to work properly.
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Ignoramus30639 wrote:


Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?


It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.


OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i


If you're smart, you'll buy the lower attachment frame for your
specific vehicle. My dad wasted weeks trying to adapt one from a
Toyota Landcruiser to his IH. Ended up getting the frame from the
dealer anyway. Took an afternoon to bolt on to existing attachment
points. The upper frame with the cylinder+pump bolted on to frame
ends. Have to have a good solid attachment. The pump was run by a
starter motor, was pretty much self-contained. He set up a set of
relays for the controller box, had swing cylinders on the plow, the
controller had cables to operate valves up front along with switches
to control the pump. The box lasted longer than the Scout did using
the relays. One problem he had was finding a straight path from the
box inside the cab to the hydraulic unit up front and center, lots of
engine stuff in the way. Could be a fairly large problem with today's
crowded engine compartments.

Stan


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How do you sllep at night ?????????????? :-)


Plows are generally ok on trucks..... most any way..... some will
void warranty. If all your gonna do is your driveway then have at
it. Push snow back as far as you can your first storm because once it
freezes the the problems start.... nouthing like plowing fresh snow
and hitting a frozen snowbank,

Don't run the road with the plow mounted. The front ends of trucks
really dont like it.. Put it on before it snows, plow the snow then
take it off.

Oh Ya sleep tight, You did good


Thanks. I feel a bit better. How hard is it to put the snowplow on,
how long does it take?

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How do you sllep at night ?????????????? :-)


Plows are generally ok on trucks..... most any way..... some will
void warranty. If all your gonna do is your driveway then have at
it. Push snow back as far as you can your first storm because once it
freezes the the problems start.... nouthing like plowing fresh snow
and hitting a frozen snowbank,

Don't run the road with the plow mounted. The front ends of trucks
really dont like it.. Put it on before it snows, plow the snow then
take it off.

Oh Ya sleep tight, You did good


Thanks. I feel a bit better. How hard is it to put the snowplow on,
how long does it take?

i


That depends on how well you rework the mounts. Generally, after you
have done it a few times, perhaps 15 minutes.
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If you're smart, you'll buy the lower attachment frame for your
specific vehicle. My dad wasted weeks trying to adapt one from a
Toyota Landcruiser to his IH. Ended up getting the frame from the
dealer anyway. Took an afternoon to bolt on to existing attachment
points. The upper frame with the cylinder+pump bolted on to frame
ends. Have to have a good solid attachment. The pump was run by a
starter motor, was pretty much self-contained. He set up a set of
relays for the controller box, had swing cylinders on the plow, the
controller had cables to operate valves up front along with switches
to control the pump. The box lasted longer than the Scout did using
the relays. One problem he had was finding a straight path from the
box inside the cab to the hydraulic unit up front and center, lots
of engine stuff in the way. Could be a fairly large problem with
today's crowded engine compartments.


Makes sense. Are all attachments going to match the plow?

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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

i


Looks good, I see it has power angle as well as lift, just what you
want.

If the truck doesn't have the snow plow prep option, you need to add an
extra transmission cooler and may need a front suspension upgrade to
handle the extra weight of the plow without sagging too much. If you're
just doing your driveway the later may not be an issue.
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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

i


Is that a 4X4?
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http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/

Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

i


Is that a 4X4?
Paul


Yes, 4x4
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On 2010-03-26, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30639 wrote:

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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

i


Looks good, I see it has power angle as well as lift, just what you
want.

If the truck doesn't have the snow plow prep option, you need to add an
extra transmission cooler and may need a front suspension upgrade to
handle the extra weight of the plow without sagging too much. If you're
just doing your driveway the later may not be an issue.


OK, I will try to find out. I thought I had a snow plow prep option,
but now I am not sure. I guess I will call the Chevy dealer.

i
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You did really good Iggy.

Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs



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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

i


Well if it's a truck newer than 95 you won't find a conventional mount
plate to fit it. Western doesn't make one. They only have the mounts for
the newer minute mount style plows.

As for how well it will handle the plow. That depends a LOT on you. If
you don't plow like a fool and pay attention to whet your doing it will
handle it just fine. My plow truck is a 93 2500 and it has worn a plow
every year since new. The only thing I have replaced that I actually
attribute to the extra weight of the plow is a set of shocks and a
steering stabilizer.

I would suggest that you add two items to the truck in addition to what
it has if you plan on using the plow a LOT or if your hauling weight.
One is an additional trans cooler with a separate cooling fan on it.
Most of the racing type catalogs carry them as oil coolers for engines.
Two is a good yellow beacon light. You will want it in operation when
plowing and it doesn't hurt to run one if your loaded heavy.

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You did really good Iggy.

Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs


So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?
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On 2010-03-26, Karl Townsend wrote:

"Ignoramus30639" wrote in message
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On 2010-03-25, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30639 wrote:

Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?

It's 1/10 of the new cost for the cheapest ones.

OK, I just brought it home. I will try to adapt it to my Chevy for the
next winter. I may have to tinker with the control a little bit. I
have very little clue how snowplows work. I may need to do some
welding to adapt it to my truck.

i

What's the number for the Cook county sheriff? I need to report a
robbery.


DuPage county

I've used a snow plow like this quite bit in the past. They are REAL
HARD
on your pickup. So much so, that I sold the plow and bought a snow
blower.
I went through two auto trannies and had to have the frame mounting
re-welded. But I did make a fair amount of cash doing parking lots.


What kind of pickup did you have?

Could it be that you simply were too hard on your truck? Like, you
tried to push continuously?

i


Pushing continuously is the easy part, the hard part is all the slamming
back and forth between forward and reverse gears and never getting
enough speed to lock the torque converter. Heat is the enemy of an
automatic transmission and that type of activity heats them up big time.
There also isn't enough airflow at those low speeds for the normal
transmission coolers to work properly.


Pete nailed it. You're trying to use a truck as a tractor and its just not
built for it. It does help to not get in a hurry and go easy on it. Just be
forewarned, you're gonna kill your truck.

Karl


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You did really good Iggy.

Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs


So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?


Ayup. I lost most of my love for snow, after growing up in, then
leaving Northern Michigan, where the average snow fall is 124" a year.

12 Feet of snow, 6 months out of the year..was a bit much. Now I live
in the high desert. I see snow on the tops of the mountains all around
me.

I think we had an 1/8" on the ground 4 yrs ago. Then it melted about an
hour later.

Gunner

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Ignoramus30639 wrote:

On 2010-03-26, Pete C. wrote:

Ignoramus30639 wrote:

On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 wrote:
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http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/

Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.

How would it survive snow plowing?

i


Looks good, I see it has power angle as well as lift, just what you
want.

If the truck doesn't have the snow plow prep option, you need to add an
extra transmission cooler and may need a front suspension upgrade to
handle the extra weight of the plow without sagging too much. If you're
just doing your driveway the later may not be an issue.


OK, I will try to find out. I thought I had a snow plow prep option,
but now I am not sure. I guess I will call the Chevy dealer.

i


If you have the window sticker it should say what options it has. You
could also lookup the RPO code for the snowplow prep option and check to
see if it's listed on the option label in the glove compartment.


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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.


2 or 4WD?


How would it survive snow plowing?


It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
Your wife and kid will thank you for it.

I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. g

P.S: What did your Chebby dealer and insurance company say about plow
use affecting your rates and vehicular lifetime? I'll bet you got two
big, deep, frowny faces, I do.

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You did really good Iggy.

Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs


So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?


That's certainly the way I've always looked at it, Pete.

If y'all choose to live with snow, ice, monsoonal rains, hurricanes,
tornadoes, lightning storms, humidity, hail, wives, pets, and
children, that's your choice. I like a little less drama in my life.

Earthquakes, what I've felt so far, I can handle. ;^)

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I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. *g


Around here guys with plow trucks have compact tractor envy.

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On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 wrote:
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Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.


2 or 4WD?


4WD


How would it survive snow plowing?


It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
Your wife and kid will thank you for it.


Between you and Karl, I think that you guys are right.

I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. g


My driveway is only appx. 50 feet long.

Anyhow, I think that I got sidetracked on this snowplow and it is more
than I (or my pickup) should handle.

i

P.S: What did your Chebby dealer and insurance company say about plow
use affecting your rates and vehicular lifetime? I'll bet you got two
big, deep, frowny faces, I do.

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Larry Jaques wrote:


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Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
-- Oprah Winfrey


Wait a minute! Larry quoting Oprah? Is this bizarro-usenet?



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On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500, Ignoramus30639
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pictures

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/


You did really good Iggy.

Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs


So, for you, snow is like a nice fluffy white long hair angora
cat. Real nice to look at in someone else's driveway?


That's certainly the way I've always looked at it, Pete.


That is my Dad's attitude. Must be a result of growing up in
Pittsburgh and Worcester. I kind of like snow, but then I've missed
out having to commute in the stuff.

If y'all choose to live with snow, ice, monsoonal rains, hurricanes,
tornadoes, lightning storms, humidity, hail, wives, pets, and
children, that's your choice. I like a little less drama in my life.


Hey now, pets can be planned for.

Earthquakes, what I've felt so far, I can handle. ;^)


The one's I've felt, I could handle. The one's I didn't feel,
those disturbed me.

But I'm really bothered by the ones I haven't felt yet.
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What's that Lassie? You say that Ignoramus30639 fell down the old
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by Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:47:06 -0500:

pictures

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/

Full size pics take too long to load, but from the thumbnails it looks
like the old style mount that I prefer. I could mount my fisher plow
faster than those minute mount new ones.

When you mount the attachment frame to the truck be sure to make it
low enough that the plow angle pivot is vertical. And use a long
enough lift chain so the plow can go down a little to follow the
contours of the road.

Like others said, trans. temp. is the killer. Get a cooler(with a
fan) and/or a trans. temp. gage.

And watch out for manholes and drain grates. Take notes or pictures
of where you plan on plowing.
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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:51:41 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus8345
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On 2010-03-26, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:50:07 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus30639
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On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 wrote:
pictures

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/

Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.


2 or 4WD?


4WD


How would it survive snow plowing?


It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
Your wife and kid will thank you for it.


Between you and Karl, I think that you guys are right.


Ayup.


I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. g


My driveway is only appx. 50 feet long.


I knew that and grinned when you bought a snow plow. titter


Anyhow, I think that I got sidetracked on this snowplow and it is more
than I (or my pickup) should handle.


I'm sure you'll find something to do with it. Like triple or quadruple
your investment by the end of tomorrow afternoon.

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On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 15:36:30 -0400, the infamous Pete Snell
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Larry Jaques wrote:


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Don't fight them. Just find a different way to stand.
-- Oprah Winfrey




Wait a minute! Larry quoting Oprah? Is this bizarro-usenet?


Hey, don't blame me. Blame the Motivational-Quote-of-the-Day site for
sending me something pithy from Opie. I knew it was something to put
up just for Lew, since he called me a bigot. (Well, Lew, did it get
your goat, or are we not mentioning her?)

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Larry Jaques wrote:
On Fri, 26 Mar 2010 11:51:41 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus8345
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On 2010-03-26, Larry Jaques wrote:
On Thu, 25 Mar 2010 20:50:07 -0500, the infamous Ignoramus30639
scrawled the following:

On 2010-03-26, Ignoramus30639 wrote:
pictures

http://igor.chudov.com/tmp/Western-Snow-Plow/
Oh, and the truck is Chevy Silverado 2500HD, with a gas engine.
2 or 4WD?

4WD

How would it survive snow plowing?
It would survive much better if you bought a snow blower. Better yet,
sell it for enough money to buy both a big blower and a snowmobile.
Your wife and kid will thank you for it.

Between you and Karl, I think that you guys are right.


Ayup.


I can see a guy wanting one if he had a road which needed to be graded
and/or snow-plowed several times a year, but you're an urbanite, Ig.
Plow envy got ahold of you. I can grok it. g

My driveway is only appx. 50 feet long.


I knew that and grinned when you bought a snow plow. titter


Anyhow, I think that I got sidetracked on this snowplow and it is more
than I (or my pickup) should handle.


I'm sure you'll find something to do with it. Like triple or quadruple
your investment by the end of tomorrow afternoon.

--
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If he was a bit closer I'd buy it quick. Western makes a GREAT plow and
that plow new was probably close to $3000.00. My FD just picked up a new
Western commercial style for our new plow truck and it was almost 4K
even with a discount.

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* *I had more than my fill of daytime TV, when working in a TV shop in
my teens.
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Agreed, I turn the TV on a few minutes before the news in case some
new singer is performing. They have an extremely low opinion of the
intelligence and maturity of their audience.

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On Mar 26, 9:37 pm, "Michael A. Terrell"
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I had more than my fill of daytime TV, when working in a TV shop in
my teens.
...
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Agreed, I turn the TV on a few minutes before the news in case some
new singer is performing. They have an extremely low opinion of the
intelligence and maturity of their audience.



Most of TV is MBAs and empty talking heads these days. I watch the
news, and a few old sitcoms. Even watching the news bothers me after my
time in the Army where I produced and directed live daily half hour
newscasts, while on duty as the broadcast engineer. We were allowed
only one mistake per show, and there were no teleprompters. The
'broadcasters' (Military talking heads) prepared their own material and
practiced before every newscast. I even had to slip into the studio to
change camera angles between some shots, then back to the control room.

No sat TV here, just sub-basic cable.


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On Mar 27, 7:29*pm, Wes wrote:
Ignoramus30639 wrote:
Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?


How long is your driveway? *I ask that because I don't think you live out in the country
so it is likely short. *A snowblower you walk behind would be a lot less hassle. *I blow
about 200FT and I never run out of room to put the snow in.

Wes


That's an advantage of a snowblower over a plow. OTOH in my case the
only good place to blow most of it is upwind. My neighbor and I clear
large enough areas to turn around, he uses a 4WD ATV with a plow blade
and I have the bucket loader. Both machines can pile the snow into
this ridge along the border between our yards:
http://picasaweb.google.com/KB1DAL/H...67615509112306
The ATV is faster, I think mine is more fun.

Notice that the 6 Megapixel image has been reduced to 100 DPI and 640
x 480. Not all of us have broadband.

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Would you say it is worth $220? if it works?



How long is your driveway? I ask that because I don't think you live out in the country
so it is likely short. A snowblower you walk behind would be a lot less hassle. I blow
about 200FT and I never run out of room to put the snow in.

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You did really good Iggy.

Gunner, who has seen snow up close...5 times in the last 40 yrs


Got a good telescope, eh?


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