I have a Grizzly G4000 lathe, a 9x20 and like to buy a stud so I can use my
phase II tool post holder for it. I'm not experienced enough yet to try to
make a stud myself, unless of course it is not that hard of a job. I tried
all the usual sites that come up when I Google for the info. I hope one of
you experienced lather users can help me with a place where I can just buy
one, and I can start learning to turn and do things.......PM

On May 9, 6:07 pm, "PeterM" wrote:
I have a Grizzly G4000 lathe, a 9x20 and like to buy a stud so I can use my
phase II tool post holder for it. I'm not experienced enough yet to try to
make a stud myself, unless of course it is not that hard of a job. I tried
all the usual sites that come up when I Google for the info. I hope one of
you experienced lather users can help me with a place where I can just buy
one, and I can start learning to turn and do things.......PM

The "stud" is not the part you need, you need the "t nut" machined for
your cross slide. I don't think you can buy this off the shelf, you
need to make this part to fit your lathe, drill it for the stud from
the A-size your purchase and tap it for that thread.

ignator

If you check the parts that are included in some of the QCTP kits, one of
the parts is a hollow bolt that's intended to be placed down the center hole
of the QCTP, and it screws onto some existing toolpost center bolts.
Whether or not you would be able to get a machine dealer to sell you that
individual part is unknown.

I don't know for certain that this part will match the size & threads of
your existing toolpost bolt, but maybe someone else has experience with that
particular part.
Otherwise, you my be able to get the info you need from a dealer's machine
parts tech support.

Unless your turret toolpost is missing, it would be suitble for making this
particular part, since you would only need to turn the part to the proper
diameter, then drill and tap the hole for the existing bolt's threads.
I'm not certain what the size of the existing toolpost bolt is, but it's
most likely a common metric size. The proper drill size might be marked on
the tap.

You might as well get started using the lathe for projects to improve the
lathe, that's how most of this metalworking machine stuff plays out.

This center bolt/extender part wouldn't absolutely need a perfect hex head,
a cross hole would suffice, so it could be tightened/loosened with a piece
of round stock.
Remember to Remove the tightening/loosening "handle" before running the
lathe so it can't accidently contact the rotating parts.

You might as well get started using the lathe for projets to improve the
lathe, that's how most of this stuff works out.

I believe the original toolpost bolt on a 9x20 lathe is pressed in, and
there may not be any clearance space under the compound/top slide to fit a
common bolt head.

By checking some of the many 9x20 lathe webpges, you may be able to discover
what other owners have done when they have used Phase II toolposts. A good
serch term is "9x20 lathe" with quotes.

I've always felt that the AXA or 100 series QCTP was too large in scale for
use on the 9x20 compound, so I continued to use the turret with very little
trouble, after I made a 4-bolt clamping plate for the compound.
The turret is an adequate toolpost after the compound clamping plate is
improved.

Some users have fabricated adapter plates so a QCTP can be mounted directly
to the cross slide, with the compound slide removed, on the 9x20 lathes.

You didn't specify which Phase II toolpost you want to mount to your 9x20
lathe.

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"PeterM" wrote in message
...
I have a Grizzly G4000 lathe, a 9x20 and like to buy a stud so I can use my
phase II tool post holder for it. I'm not experienced enough yet to try to
make a stud myself, unless of course it is not that hard of a job. I tried
all the usual sites that come up when I Google for the info. I hope one of
you experienced lather users can help me with a place where I can just buy
one, and I can start learning to turn and do things.......PM

On May 9, 9:50*pm, ignator wrote:
On May 9, 6:07 pm, "PeterM" wrote:

I have a Grizzly G4000 lathe, a 9x20 and like to buy a stud so I can use my
phase II tool post holder for it. I'm not experienced enough yet to try to
make a stud myself, unless of course it is not that hard of a job. I tried
all the usual sites that come up when I Google for the info. I hope one of
you experienced lather users can help me with a place where I can just buy
one, and I can start learning to turn and do things.......PM

The "stud" is not the part you need, you need the "t nut" machined for
your cross slide. *I don't think you can buy this off the shelf, you
need to make this part to fit your lathe, drill it for the stud from
the A-size your purchase and tap it for that thread.

ignator

The Grizzly manual was too large to download with dialup so I looked
at HF's 9x20. The compound top doesn't have the usual tee slot,
instead there is an upright screw with its head pinned to prevent
rotation. I suppose you could remove the top slide and bolt the
toolpost and one holder in place, then modify a commercial bolt.

jsw

On May 9, 6:07*pm, "PeterM" wrote:
I have a Grizzly G4000 lathe, a 9x20 and like to buy a stud so I can use my
phase II tool post holder for it. I'm not experienced enough yet to try to
make a stud myself, unless of course it is not that hard of a job. I tried
all the usual sites that come up when I Google for the info. I hope one of
you experienced lather users can help me with a place where I can just buy
one, and I can start learning to turn and do things.......PM

The Phase2 website has a link to an article from Machinist’s Workshop
about adapting one of their quick change toolposts to a 9x20 lathe
that doesn’t have a T-slot on the compound:
http://www.phase2plus.com/details.as...OOL_SETS&id=52
http://www.phase2plus.com/images/MW_...on_article.pdf

I think that is what you will need: http://grizzly.com/products/G4000/images
It should be a useful first project

Many thanks for this generous information. I think my initial thought was
also to just keep the turret tool post, and buy the 4-bolt clamping plate. I
saw it advertized on EBay for 43.- I wish I could get it for less, but I'm
sure the quality will be less as well. I could also have the guts and try to
make some of the items I need, and see what happens, I really don't have
anything to lose. I learned all this a long time ago, but am afraid to start
practicing again. Maybe by reading here more of your kind reply to us old
beginners, I will become more daring...My best to all of you fine gentlemen
that answered me....Peter

"Wild_Bill" wrote in message
...
If you check the parts that are included in some of the QCTP kits, one of
the parts is a hollow bolt that's intended to be placed down the center
hole of the QCTP, and it screws onto some existing toolpost center bolts.
Whether or not you would be able to get a machine dealer to sell you that
individual part is unknown.

I don't know for certain that this part will match the size & threads of
your existing toolpost bolt, but maybe someone else has experience with
that particular part.
Otherwise, you my be able to get the info you need from a dealer's machine
parts tech support.

Unless your turret toolpost is missing, it would be suitble for making
this particular part, since you would only need to turn the part to the
proper diameter, then drill and tap the hole for the existing bolt's
threads.
I'm not certain what the size of the existing toolpost bolt is, but it's
most likely a common metric size. The proper drill size might be marked on
the tap.

You might as well get started using the lathe for projects to improve the
lathe, that's how most of this metalworking machine stuff plays out.

This center bolt/extender part wouldn't absolutely need a perfect hex
head, a cross hole would suffice, so it could be tightened/loosened with a
piece of round stock.
Remember to Remove the tightening/loosening "handle" before running the
lathe so it can't accidently contact the rotating parts.

You might as well get started using the lathe for projets to improve the
lathe, that's how most of this stuff works out.

I believe the original toolpost bolt on a 9x20 lathe is pressed in, and
there may not be any clearance space under the compound/top slide to fit a
common bolt head.

By checking some of the many 9x20 lathe webpges, you may be able to
discover what other owners have done when they have used Phase II
toolposts. A good serch term is "9x20 lathe" with quotes.

I've always felt that the AXA or 100 series QCTP was too large in scale
for use on the 9x20 compound, so I continued to use the turret with very
little trouble, after I made a 4-bolt clamping plate for the compound.
The turret is an adequate toolpost after the compound clamping plate is
improved.

Some users have fabricated adapter plates so a QCTP can be mounted
directly to the cross slide, with the compound slide removed, on the 9x20
lathes.

You didn't specify which Phase II toolpost you want to mount to your 9x20
lathe.

--
WB
.........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"PeterM" wrote in message
...
I have a Grizzly G4000 lathe, a 9x20 and like to buy a stud so I can use
my phase II tool post holder for it. I'm not experienced enough yet to try
to make a stud myself, unless of course it is not that hard of a job. I
tried all the usual sites that come up when I Google for the info. I hope
one of you experienced lather users can help me with a place where I can
just buy one, and I can start learning to turn and do things.......PM

Yep, stick around and you're guaranteed to pick up some very useful
information.

I'm a retread as far as machining goes, like yourself Peter. I had training
in high shool, then didn't use lathes or similar metalworking machines for
many years, then was asked to set up and operate a small machine shop where
I was employed.
The lathe that the company bought was a 9x20.
I managed to machine a lot of good parts to build some machines I designed,
despite the limitations of the 9x20 lathe (including some milling with an
adapted angle plate).

A dozen or so years went by after that job, and I decided to buy a lathe for
myself.. and since the 9x20 was low priced, somewhat portable and I was
already familiar with it, I bought one for my basement home shop.

I don't know if you had a look at the 9x20 lathe pages at the kwagmire site
linked below, but there is an example of the 4-bolt compound clamping plate
shown there, which can be machined with the 9x20 lathe (except for the
undercut areas around the mounting holes, but removing more of the thickness
of the plate solves that).

Because the 9x20 has been a relatively popular model, there are lots of
ideas concerning improvements by guys that are a lot more talented than
myself, that have made their ideas readily available online.

Safety first, all the rest is educational.

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


"PeterM" wrote in message
...
Many thanks for this generous information. I think my initial thought was
also to just keep the turret tool post, and buy the 4-bolt clamping plate.
I saw it advertized on EBay for 43.- I wish I could get it for less, but
I'm sure the quality will be less as well. I could also have the guts and
try to make some of the items I need, and see what happens, I really don't
have anything to lose. I learned all this a long time ago, but am afraid
to start practicing again. Maybe by reading here more of your kind reply
to us old beginners, I will become more daring...My best to all of you
fine gentlemen that answered me....Peter

That's the gizmo, here's a link to the page where the PDF is located, in
case other machines have difficulty viewing/saving a PDF from a link.
http://www.phase2plus.com/details.as...OOL_SETS&id=52

--
WB
..........
metalworking projects
www.kwagmire.com/metal_proj.html


wrote in message
...

The Phase2 website has a link to an article from Machinist’s Workshop
about adapting one of their quick change toolposts to a 9x20 lathe
that doesn’t have a T-slot on the compound:
http://www.phase2plus.com/details.as...OOL_SETS&id=52
http://www.phase2plus.com/images/MW_...on_article.pdf

I think that is what you will need: http://grizzly.com/products/G4000/images
It should be a useful first project

On Sat, 9 May 2009 21:32:49 -0700, "PeterM" wrote:

Many thanks for this generous information. I think my initial thought was
also to just keep the turret tool post, and buy the 4-bolt clamping plate. I
saw it advertized on EBay for 43.- I wish I could get it for less, but I'm
sure the quality will be less as well. I could also have the guts and try to
make some of the items I need, and see what happens, I really don't have
anything to lose. I learned all this a long time ago, but am afraid to start
practicing again. Maybe by reading here more of your kind reply to us old
beginners, I will become more daring...My best to all of you fine gentlemen
that answered me....Peter


**** Peter..where do you live? So Cal and Ill come by and machine you
your part. Or send me dimensions and a couple photographs and Ill
machine your part for free.

Work is iffy..so I have more time than normally to play.

Gunner

"Somewhere a True Believer is training to kill you. He is training with
minimum food or water,in austere conditions, day and night. The only thing
clean on him is his weapon. He doesn't worry about what workout to do---
his rucksack weighs what it weighs, and he runs until the enemy stops chasing him.
The True Believer doesn't care 'how hard it is'; he knows he either wins or he dies.
He doesn't go home at 1700; he is home. He knows only the 'Cause.' Now, who wants to quit?"

NCOIC of the Special Forces Assessment and Selection Course in a welcome speech to new SF candidates

On May 10, 12:31*am, wrote:
On May 9, 6:07*pm, "PeterM" wrote:

...James_Johnson_article.pdf

From the drawing a 9/16" bolt would fit into the toolpost. I would
drill all the way through like he did and use a spiral point tap.

jsw

I'm with the wife on this Mothers day, and will answer later in the day, I
am so happy about the answers, and I think I will try to make a few things.
I also have besides the G4000 a King Midas milling machine, a copy of the
Rusnok milling machine. I wonder if they are users of that milling machine
in this group. I purchased all the items I need to start, but my balls
didn't grow as fast as my desire to start to make things. Bless all of you
for this wonderful and inspiring help.....Peter

Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
On May 10, 12:31 am, wrote:
On May 9, 6:07 pm, "PeterM" wrote:

...James_Johnson_article.pdf

From the drawing a 9/16" bolt would fit into the toolpost. I would
drill all the way through like he did and use a spiral point tap.

jsw

there is a rusnok yahoo group that you may wish to join


"PeterM" wrote in message
...
I'm with the wife on this Mothers day, and will answer later in the day, I
am so happy about the answers, and I think I will try to make a few
things. I also have besides the G4000 a King Midas milling machine, a copy
of the Rusnok milling machine. I wonder if they are users of that milling
machine in this group. I purchased all the items I need to start, but my
balls didn't grow as fast as my desire to start to make things. Bless all
of you for this wonderful and inspiring help.....Peter

Jim Wilkins" wrote in message
...
On May 10, 12:31 am, wrote:
On May 9, 6:07 pm, "PeterM" wrote:

...James_Johnson_article.pdf

From the drawing a 9/16" bolt would fit into the toolpost. I would
drill all the way through like he did and use a spiral point tap.

jsw