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In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

......DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when I
got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.

The legs are textile loom spindles. The only "metalworking" involved
was that I made the little brass feet at the bottom of the spindles.
They are threaded, and there is 3/8-16 all-thread rod up the middle of
the spindles into the bottom of the unit. According to my son-in-law
(who is a graphic artist) it has a "steampunk" look to it. There is a
glass top that is not in the picture. I made this as a gift for my
oldest daughter, who is a cardiac nurse. She and her husband like odd stuff.

I don't get by this group as often as in the past partly due to time,
and partly due to the static some of the less mentally gifted feel the
need to spew around here, but Mr. Foreman is one of the guys that make
it still worth checking in from time to time. Glad things went well,
Don.


*No, I did not zap anyone with it. It did show a trace on the CRT, and
it did charge up when you pushed the "charge" button, and it did make a
nice fat spark across at short gap I attached when you hit the button.
Pretty cool. I was going to test it on the neighbors cat, but thought
better of it.


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In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when I
got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.

The legs are textile loom spindles. The only "metalworking" involved was
that I made the little brass feet at the bottom of the spindles. They are
threaded, and there is 3/8-16 all-thread rod up the middle of the spindles
into the bottom of the unit. According to my son-in-law (who is a graphic
artist) it has a "steampunk" look to it.


That's great. It's funny you should mention steampunk -- as I've followed
Don's adventures I've been thinking that a weldor and metalworker's implant
should be done steampunk style, with copper plumbing and maybe a carbide
lamp, with old-time analog guages and a spinning-ball governor on top,
felt-wick oilers with spring-loaded caps, and a brass box on the side to
hold the white lead and whetstone. d8-)

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In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when I
got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.

The legs are textile loom spindles. The only "metalworking" involved
was that I made the little brass feet at the bottom of the spindles.
They are threaded, and there is 3/8-16 all-thread rod up the middle of
the spindles into the bottom of the unit. According to my son-in-law
(who is a graphic artist) it has a "steampunk" look to it. There is a
glass top that is not in the picture. I made this as a gift for my
oldest daughter, who is a cardiac nurse. She and her husband like odd
stuff.

I don't get by this group as often as in the past partly due to time,
and partly due to the static some of the less mentally gifted feel the
need to spew around here, but Mr. Foreman is one of the guys that make
it still worth checking in from time to time. Glad things went well,
Don.


*No, I did not zap anyone with it. It did show a trace on the CRT, and
it did charge up when you pushed the "charge" button, and it did make a
nice fat spark across at short gap I attached when you hit the button.
Pretty cool. I was going to test it on the neighbors cat, but thought
better of it.


To be really appropriate for Don's _automatic_ defib, it should be rigged
so that if someone slumps on to it from the couch it gives them a healthy
jolt.

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Ed,

Did you have nightmares as a child after reading too much Jules Verne?

Bob Swinney

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In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when I
got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.

The legs are textile loom spindles. The only "metalworking" involved was
that I made the little brass feet at the bottom of the spindles. They are
threaded, and there is 3/8-16 all-thread rod up the middle of the spindles
into the bottom of the unit. According to my son-in-law (who is a graphic
artist) it has a "steampunk" look to it.


That's great. It's funny you should mention steampunk -- as I've followed
Don's adventures I've been thinking that a weldor and metalworker's implant
should be done steampunk style, with copper plumbing and maybe a carbide
lamp, with old-time analog guages and a spinning-ball governor on top,
felt-wick oilers with spring-loaded caps, and a brass box on the side to
hold the white lead and whetstone. d8-)

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Ed,

Did you have nightmares as a child after reading too much Jules Verne?

Bob Swinney


g No, I saw a series of photos recently of steampunk objects, and it
stuck. I especially liked the steampunk laptop computer.

Maybe I should look for it again. Some people here would get a kick out of
it.

Steampunk style does owe a lot to Jules Verne, BTW.

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Steampunk style does owe a lot to Jules Verne, BTW.


http://steampunkworkshop.com/lcd.shtml

Heh.

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Steampunk style does owe a lot to Jules Verne, BTW.


http://steampunkworkshop.com/lcd.shtml

Heh.

--Winston


There ya' go. Isn't that stuff a natural for this group? I think Don would
work on steampunk-styling his defibrillator right away. d8-)

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Winston wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
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Steampunk style does owe a lot to Jules Verne, BTW.


http://steampunkworkshop.com/lcd.shtml

Heh.

--Winston


That guy is a bit wacked. Now I know what Ed was refering to.

I wonder if he ever posts here? He would fit in.

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Winston wrote:

Ed Huntress wrote:
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Steampunk style does owe a lot to Jules Verne, BTW.


http://steampunkworkshop.com/lcd.shtml

Heh.

--Winston


That guy is a bit wacked. Now I know what Ed was refering to.

I wonder if he ever posts here? He would fit in.

Wes


That ain't the half of it. That's relatively mild, compared to the laptop
plumbed with soldered copper tubing and joints.

Steampunk has its origins in some fantasy stories, and it has a small
fashion following. Think of it as goth for machine dorks. It's been around
for at least a decade.

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AL A wrote:
In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when
I got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.


That one would be kind of hard to implant. However...

I remember a lady who did not want to have one of them new-fangled
pacemakers implanted. The old one worked for her just fine. It was a box,
not unlike the one in the picture (smaller of course :-) which was attached
to her waist by a belt. The whole thing was powered by Duracell batteries.
She was pacing- dependent so we (and others) always asked the same question;
"How do you change the batteries?"

The answer was "Very quickly!"

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Campbell River, BC




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In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg


Bwahahahahahaha! I'm glad I put down my tea before reading this post.



That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when I
got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.

The legs are textile loom spindles. The only "metalworking" involved
was that I made the little brass feet at the bottom of the spindles.
They are threaded, and there is 3/8-16 all-thread rod up the middle of
the spindles into the bottom of the unit. According to my son-in-law
(who is a graphic artist) it has a "steampunk" look to it. There is a
glass top that is not in the picture. I made this as a gift for my
oldest daughter, who is a cardiac nurse. She and her husband like odd stuff.


She ought to LOVE that thing. snicker


I don't get by this group as often as in the past partly due to time,
and partly due to the static some of the less mentally gifted feel the
need to spew around here, but Mr. Foreman is one of the guys that make
it still worth checking in from time to time. Glad things went well,
Don.


Your return was perfect, Alan. Thanks!


*No, I did not zap anyone with it. It did show a trace on the CRT, and
it did charge up when you pushed the "charge" button, and it did make a
nice fat spark across at short gap I attached when you hit the button.
Pretty cool. I was going to test it on the neighbors cat, but thought
better of it.


Good move.

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Steampunk has its origins in some fantasy stories, and it has a small
fashion following. Think of it as goth for machine dorks. It's been around
for at least a decade.


I had a Scifi book, well still have it somewhere, might have been called the difference
machine. Had a cover on it that looked like Steampunks work.

The guy has to be a live steamer.

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It's great to see that you're radial again, Don.


And perpendicular to the earth surface most of the time.

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It's great to see that you're radial again, Don.


And perpendicular to the earth surface most of the time.


And smiling happily when he's tangential.

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It's great to see that you're radial again, Don.


And perpendicular to the earth surface most of the time.


And smiling happily when he's tangential.

--Winston


There's a limerick in there somewhere.


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It's great to see that you're radial again, Don.


And perpendicular to the earth surface most of the time.


And smiling happily when he's tangential.


Every man is prone to that.

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AL A wrote:
In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when
I got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.


That one would be kind of hard to implant. However...

I remember a lady who did not want to have one of them new-fangled
pacemakers implanted. The old one worked for her just fine. It was a box,
not unlike the one in the picture (smaller of course :-) which was attached
to her waist by a belt. The whole thing was powered by Duracell batteries.
She was pacing- dependent so we (and others) always asked the same question;
"How do you change the batteries?"

The answer was "Very quickly!"


LOL.

I had an SO with a "valve job". When it was quiet, I could hear
her heart "clicking". Could tell to some degree her mental state,
as much as it was reflected in her pulse. But the times when I would
have liked to know, things were usually too noisy to hear that little
clicking sound. Sigh.

"This is not a brouhaha, this is Science!"

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I had an SO with a "valve job". When it was quiet, I could hear
her heart "clicking". Could tell to some degree her mental state,
as much as it was reflected in her pulse. But the times when I would
have liked to know, things were usually too noisy to hear that little
clicking sound. Sigh.


Clicking is good! When the clicking stops...not so good.

Some of the implantable defibrillators are equipped with a high pitched tone
activated by certain circumstances. It is amusing to watch hospital staff
freak out at the high pitched tone emanating from patient's chest (if you
have never encountered it can be a bit unnerving).

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Campbell River, BC


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I skipped the meeting, but the Memos showed that "Michael Koblic"
wrote on Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:55:08 -0800 in
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AL A wrote:
In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when
I got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.


That one would be kind of hard to implant. However...

I remember a lady who did not want to have one of them new-fangled
pacemakers implanted. The old one worked for her just fine. It was a box,
not unlike the one in the picture (smaller of course :-) which was
attached
to her waist by a belt. The whole thing was powered by Duracell batteries.
She was pacing- dependent so we (and others) always asked the same
question;
"How do you change the batteries?"

The answer was "Very quickly!"


LOL.

I had an SO with a "valve job". When it was quiet, I could hear
her heart "clicking". Could tell to some degree her mental state,
as much as it was reflected in her pulse. But the times when I would
have liked to know, things were usually too noisy to hear that little
clicking sound. Sigh.

"This is not a brouhaha, this is Science!"

pyotr


I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have stopped
and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually have some fun
with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I was up hiking in the
mountains. I had a light pack on, and could hear a drip, drip, drip. I
checked my water bottles, thinking it was one of them leaking. The second
time I heard it, I stopped and listened and realized what it was. It's
plain as day, but gets covered up most of the time by normal sound levels.
But when it is quiet, you can hear it.

Steve


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I had an SO with a "valve job". When it was quiet, I could hear
her heart "clicking". Could tell to some degree her mental state,
as much as it was reflected in her pulse. But the times when I would
have liked to know, things were usually too noisy to hear that little
clicking sound. Sigh.


Clicking is good! When the clicking stops...not so good.

Some of the implantable defibrillators are equipped with a high pitched
tone activated by certain circumstances. It is amusing to watch hospital
staff freak out at the high pitched tone emanating from patient's chest
(if you have never encountered it can be a bit unnerving).

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


At times when a new nurse, doctor, or other medical person is listening to
my heart, I like to watch their eyes. They don't look at my eyes, but I'm
watching theirs. Some look, then look away, some look puzzled, look back
and forth. I can tell the ones that are getting rattled, and when they see
I am looking them in the eyes, they look away quickly like, "Aw, ****!"
Then I tell them what it is. Some of the neophytes are really a little
shaken. The old timers always look right up at you after about two seconds.

Steve

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I skipped the meeting, but the Memos showed that "Michael Koblic"
wrote on Sat, 24 Jan 2009 17:55:08 -0800 in
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AL A wrote:
In order to observe and celebrate the positive outcome of Don's recent
medical procedures, I would like to share a little project that I
completed a recently. (Drum roll, please....)Presenting the amazing,
one-of-a-kind..........

.....DEFIBRILLATOR COFFEE TABLE!!!!!!:


http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v4...d/IMG_2622.jpg

That is a real, but old defib machine. It was actually working* when
I got it out of an old barn, where it had been stored for many years for
some reason.


That one would be kind of hard to implant. However...

I remember a lady who did not want to have one of them new-fangled
pacemakers implanted. The old one worked for her just fine. It was a box,
not unlike the one in the picture (smaller of course :-) which was
attached
to her waist by a belt. The whole thing was powered by Duracell batteries.
She was pacing- dependent so we (and others) always asked the same
question;
"How do you change the batteries?"

The answer was "Very quickly!"


LOL.

I had an SO with a "valve job". When it was quiet, I could hear
her heart "clicking". Could tell to some degree her mental state,
as much as it was reflected in her pulse. But the times when I would
have liked to know, things were usually too noisy to hear that little
clicking sound. Sigh.

"This is not a brouhaha, this is Science!"

pyotr


I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have stopped
and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually have some fun
with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I was up hiking in the
mountains. I had a light pack on, and could hear a drip, drip, drip. I
checked my water bottles, thinking it was one of them leaking. The second
time I heard it, I stopped and listened and realized what it was. It's
plain as day, but gets covered up most of the time by normal sound levels.
But when it is quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
.... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


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I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear the
clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your significant
other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.

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pyotr filipivich wrote:

I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear the
clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your significant
other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.


People are adaptable. I knew a guy who lost his arm, so had hook.
Saved having to look for tongs when organized the charcoal for the
grill.
The other side of it is that saying "I wouldn't want to live like
that" just means,"given my druthers, I wouldn't ask to live like
that." If its a choice of dying or having a valve clicking away twenty
four hours a day - better a noisy ticker than a stopped one.

tschus
pyotr

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pyotr filipivich wrote:

I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear
the clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your
significant other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


Over the years, I have worn a device for a few days at a time. It was wired
to taped on electrodes on my chest. When I didn't feel well, or was feeling
faint, I would hit a button, and the device would record my heart's action
for a length of time. This info would tell the doctor what was going on.
Four wires, and the device was about as big as two packs of cigarettes
stacked end on end.

Steve


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pyotr filipivich wrote:

I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear
the
clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your
significant
other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.


People are adaptable. I knew a guy who lost his arm, so had hook.
Saved having to look for tongs when organized the charcoal for the
grill.
The other side of it is that saying "I wouldn't want to live like
that" just means,"given my druthers, I wouldn't ask to live like
that." If its a choice of dying or having a valve clicking away twenty
four hours a day - better a noisy ticker than a stopped one.

tschus
pyotr

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We will drink no whiskey before its nine.
It's eight fifty eight. Close enough!


My sis lived for a few years with a defibrillator, and then was the first
woman in the United States to have a left ventricular assist. That's a pump
implanted in the heart, with an external power source and computer, which
has to be worn 24/7 by the patient. It is the last stop before you get a
transplant or the bus goes over the cliff, whichever happens first. She was
on a waiting list, and they found a match and a donor one week before she
dropped off the list because of age. Had the transplant, a couple of months
of complications, but it will be two years now in June post transplant.
That had to be a couple of tough years.

Steve




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"Michael Koblic" wrote in message
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pyotr filipivich wrote:

I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear
the clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your
significant other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


Over the years, I have worn a device for a few days at a time. It was wired
to taped on electrodes on my chest. When I didn't feel well, or was feeling
faint, I would hit a button, and the device would record my heart's action
for a length of time. This info would tell the doctor what was going on.
Four wires, and the device was about as big as two packs of cigarettes
stacked end on end.


Sounds Cool. Sometimes I really do like modern technology.
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pyotr filipivich wrote:

I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.


There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear
the clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your
significant other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


Over the years, I have worn a device for a few days at a time. It was wired
to taped on electrodes on my chest. When I didn't feel well, or was feeling
faint, I would hit a button, and the device would record my heart's action
for a length of time. This info would tell the doctor what was going on.
Four wires, and the device was about as big as two packs of cigarettes
stacked end on end.


I was recently diagnosed with an elevated heart rate. I went in for a
routine physical, and my resting rate was over 100 bpm. It used to be
down in the low 70's, tops. Still not sure what was going on, but I
instrumented myself with an exeercise heart rate monitor I use on my
rowing machine. My heart rate slowly wound down over the course of a few
days, although it's still not where it should be. All the tests came
back normal, so the Doc just prescribed more exercise. It was useful to
be able to give him a good rundown on what my ticker was doing beyond the
one snapshot in his office.

All this technology stuff can come in handy occasionally.

Doug White
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In article , "SteveB" wrote:

"Michael Koblic" wrote in message
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pyotr filipivich wrote:

I can hear mine plainly although I wear hearing aids. Others have
stopped and shushed me and asked, "What is that noise?" I usually
have some fun with them before I tell them. Soon after surgery, I
was up hiking in the mountains. I had a light pack on, and could
hear a drip, drip, drip. I checked my water bottles, thinking it
was one of them leaking. The second time I heard it, I stopped and
listened and realized what it was. It's plain as day, but gets
covered up most of the time by normal sound levels. But when it is
quiet, you can hear it.


I get bugged by the hum of florescent bulbs. A click in the chest
... I dunno. Might drive me over the edge.
OTOH, it would provide a built in metronome.

There are benefits. If you go into atrial fibrillation (heart "irregularly
irregular") you can tell your doctor sooner rather than later. Or if you
start having dizzy spells, you can tell your doctor how you do not hear
the clicking for 10 seconds before you pass out. Etc. etc. Also your
significant other can pick up on irregularities very quickly.

Anyway, the new valves do not make as much noise as the old ones used to
make. The Starr-Edwards (ball-in-a-cage) was wonderfull as the ball tended
to rattle in the cage.

--
Michael Koblic,
Campbell River, BC


Over the years, I have worn a device for a few days at a time. It was wired
to taped on electrodes on my chest. When I didn't feel well, or was feeling
faint, I would hit a button, and the device would record my heart's action
for a length of time. This info would tell the doctor what was going on.
Four wires, and the device was about as big as two packs of cigarettes
stacked end on end.


I was recently diagnosed with an elevated heart rate. I went in for a
routine physical, and my resting rate was over 100 bpm. It used to be
down in the low 70's, tops. Still not sure what was going on, but I
instrumented myself with an exeercise heart rate monitor I use on my
rowing machine. My heart rate slowly wound down over the course of a few
days, although it's still not where it should be. All the tests came
back normal, so the Doc just prescribed more exercise. It was useful to
be able to give him a good rundown on what my ticker was doing beyond the
one snapshot in his office.

All this technology stuff can come in handy occasionally.

Doug White


My resting rate was on the order of 64. In fact..it seldom got over 80,
no matter what exercise I was doing..and I occasionally ran out of steam
(now I know why)

Now my resting rate is about 88, and it feels like living inside a
stamping mill. Doctors are happy with the 88...shrug...Im hoping it will
slow down a bit or it becomes part of the background hash..


Whenever a Liberal utters the term "Common Sense approach"....grab your
wallet, your ass, and your guns because the sombitch is about to do
something damned nasty to all three of them.
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