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587 Lionel train dual controller. Black buttons reverse the trains. Red
lever blows whistle. 590 Change dispenser. Mounts on belt. Fill each tube with coins. Push each lever down do drop a specific number of coins into your palm. Used by news-kiosk operators, for example. 592 Ring adapter anvil for a blacksmith/silversmith. The rectangular end, up in the bottom photo, goes into the rectangular hole in a full-size anvil. Bang the rod/strap stock over the partial curved surface to form most of the ring. Finish it on the cone. "R.H." wrote in message ... A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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On 2/16/2006 4:29 AM R.H. mumbled something about the following:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 587 looks like the speed control on my Lionel train set I had 40 years ago. 590 coin sorter collector (left to right, quarter, dime, nickel, penny) -- Odinn RCOS #7 SENS BS ??? "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org '03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide '97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org rot13 to reply |
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wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 587: Transformer for an old electric train set. That takes me back... 590: Conductors change holder That's all I've got... -- Do the right thing. It will gratify some people and astonish the rest. - Mark Twain. |
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Dave Balderstone wrote: In article , R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ 587: Transformer for an old electric train set. That takes me back... Same here. Had a lot of derailments thanks to a need for speed. 588: Some variety of cable stripper? 589: Water faucet handle? 590: Conductors change holder Used one for my paper route lo these many years ago. That's all I've got... 591: Well bail for drawing water. Valve opens when bail reaches the water and closes upon being lifted. Once the bail is out of the well, the water is released into a container by pulling upward on the ring at the top of the interior rod. 592: Blacksmith's/Tinsmith's stake for forming sheet metal. Wide side is for starting conical-section pieces, : Small side is for finishing into candle molds, etc. Many other (ab)uses are possible. I use one quite often. |
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:47 GMT, John Husvar
wrote: 588: Some variety of cable stripper? Yes. Used by telephone installers on the drop wire from the pole to the house. |
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LDC wrote: On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:47 GMT, John Husvar wrote: 588: Some variety of cable stripper? Yes. Used by telephone installers on the drop wire from the pole to the house. Yep, very handy. I use mine for slitting open all types of multiconductor cable. There's an adjustment to control cutting depth, you can use it on two thickness' of cable without further adjustment, and to top it off you can easily remove the blade for sharpening. Found mine in a pawn shop about 22 years ago and I'll never get rid of it. Don't know of a source of supply though. ;( dennis in nca |
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"LDC" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:47 GMT, John Husvar wrote: 588: Some variety of cable stripper? Yes. Used by telephone installers on the drop wire from the pole to the house. 589 Keyhole cover. Don't remember where I saw them, but they hang on a screw above a keyhole, hanging down by gravity. Push to one side to insert key. -- Nahmie The only road to success is always under construction. |
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R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 589 bob for feeding drawstring through hem 591 bucket for water well |
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Norman D. Crow wrote:
"LDC" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:47 GMT, John Husvar wrote: 588: Some variety of cable stripper? Yes. Used by telephone installers on the drop wire from the pole to the house. 589 Keyhole cover. Don't remember where I saw them, but they hang on a screw above a keyhole, hanging down by gravity. Push to one side to insert key. Yer dead on! I submitted that one. I picked it up from a trash heap behind a hardware store (ironmongers?) in England about 30 years ago. They were used to keep the Butler from seeing what he shouldn't see. G Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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Jeff Wisnia wrote: 589 Keyhole cover. Don't remember where I saw them, but they hang on a screw above a keyhole, hanging down by gravity. Push to one side to insert key. Yer dead on! I submitted that one. I picked it up from a trash heap behind a hardware store (ironmongers?) in England about 30 years ago. They were used to keep the Butler from seeing what he shouldn't see. G Jeff We still use them on outer doors to protect the lock from windblown crud, and to keep the draught out! |
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587. Lionel Train Transformer
590. Coin Change dispenser (like carhops would have used) "R.H." wrote in message ... A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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589 is one of those little covers for keyholes to stop the draught getting
in. Our old house had them on every door ally |
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Not to dispute the experts, but ...
The (few) keyhole covers I saw were much thinner than this. This pic looks a lot like the things my grandmother had on the ends of the cords for her venetian(sp?) blinds. Art "Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message et... Norman D. Crow wrote: "LDC" wrote in message ... On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 13:55:47 GMT, John Husvar wrote: 588: Some variety of cable stripper? Yes. Used by telephone installers on the drop wire from the pole to the house. 589 Keyhole cover. Don't remember where I saw them, but they hang on a screw above a keyhole, hanging down by gravity. Push to one side to insert key. Yer dead on! I submitted that one. I picked it up from a trash heap behind a hardware store (ironmongers?) in England about 30 years ago. They were used to keep the Butler from seeing what he shouldn't see. G Jeff -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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On Thu, 16 Feb 2006 09:29:26 GMT, "R.H." wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob #590: The coin tubes in one of the belt-worn coin changers (like the drive-in carhops used to wear.) Once again, that's all I've got. |
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"R.H." wrote in message ... A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 583 is a castellated nut. A cotter pin keeps it from loosening or tightening. 585 is a chain binder used to tighten chains holding cargo. Frank |
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"R.H." wrote in message ... A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 590 is a high speed changer, it holds nickels, dimes, and quarters. 592 sheet metal stakes. Steve R. |
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According to R.H. :
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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According to John Husvar :
588: Some variety of cable stripper? Hmmm ... that makes sense. Use it for stripping the outer jacket from Romex wire? Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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587, Train set transformer/power supply
590 Change dispenser for car hop. 591, A bed warmer? Insert hot coals and run it between the sheets, just a WAG. "R.H." wrote in message ... A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob |
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R.H. wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Most have been answered already. 584. Chamfering draw knife - probably cooper's 586. Looks like a paint mixer, but seems to have more vanes than most I've seen. 588. BX cable stripper? 581 marked oversize with inch markings is a curious item. R |
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R.H. wrote:
A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 591. No one else here is old enough to have drawn water from a well? Drilled wells were lined with 6" ceramic pipe. So it took a long, skinny bucket to pass down into the well. Water filled the bucket through the valve in the bottom. As it was lifted, the valve seated and held in the water. Once the bucket was fully withdrawn from the well, one held it over another container, then pulled the ring on the top. This opened the valve at the bottom and emptied the bucket. A special version called a sand pump was used to remove sand that could collect in the bottom of the well, limiting the well's water capacity. Dale Scroggins |
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On 2/17/2006 3:52 AM Dale Scroggins mumbled something about the following:
R.H. wrote: A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob 591. No one else here is old enough to have drawn water from a well? Drilled wells were lined with 6" ceramic pipe. So it took a long, skinny bucket to pass down into the well. Water filled the bucket through the valve in the bottom. As it was lifted, the valve seated and held in the water. Once the bucket was fully withdrawn from the well, one held it over another container, then pulled the ring on the top. This opened the valve at the bottom and emptied the bucket. A special version called a sand pump was used to remove sand that could collect in the bottom of the well, limiting the well's water capacity. See, we didn't have drilled wells when I was growing up, we had a dug well, and we used a cedar bucket on a rope, altho, thinking back, I remember at least one person who had something similar, but their well was 10 or 12" ceramic pipe, and I barely remember something similar, but it wasn't as long and narrow. -- Odinn RCOS #7 SENS BS ??? "The more I study religions the more I am convinced that man never worshiped anything but himself." -- Sir Richard Francis Burton Reeky's unofficial homepage ... http://www.reeky.org '03 FLHTI ........... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/ElectraGlide '97 VN1500D ......... http://www.sloanclan.org/gallery/VulcanClassic Atlanta Biker Net ... http://www.atlantabiker.net Vulcan Riders Assoc . http://www.vulcanriders.org rot13 to reply |
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Odinn wrote: See, we didn't have drilled wells when I was growing up, we had a dug well, and we used a cedar bucket on a rope, altho, thinking back, I remember at least one person who had something similar, but their well was 10 or 12" ceramic pipe, and I barely remember something similar, but it wasn't as long and narrow. My paternal grandmother had a dug well at her house and I have one under my kitchen. I wouldn't take water from the one under my kitchen, but it has a cool beehive-shape top that shows some fairly impressive bricklaying skill went into it. My wife's grandmother drew water from her drilled well using a bailer almost until her dying day at 90+. I drew water with a bailer from a drilled well at my maternal grandmother's place. She wouldn't hear of having city water. I think she thought the treatment chemicals were slow poisons. But, then, she also thought all unused electric receptacles had to be covered so the electricity wouldn't leak out and "do who knows what to us." She refused to have an electric pump in her well because she thought the electricity would somehow make the water unhealthy. Strange ideas to be sure, but quite a few old folks held similar opinions about "those new-fangled things that are just made so people can be lazy." I remember going with my cousins to a store in Barton, OH to get a gallon jug of "coal oil" for lamps for an elderly lady who would have nothing whatever to do with anything electrical. She always put in a few cents extra for candy to pay us for going. |
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Wood Butcher wrote:
Not to dispute the experts, but ... The (few) keyhole covers I saw were much thinner than this. This pic looks a lot like the things my grandmother had on the ends of the cords for her venetian(sp?) blinds. Art Well, mine is flat unglazed ceramic on the backside, with a sharp edge on the hole, so I 'spect it's truly a keyhole cover. I'd imagine a drawstring pull would be glazed all over and have radiuses at both ends of the hole. Jeff (Bucking for a bit part on CSI....) -- Jeffry Wisnia (W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE) "Truth exists; only falsehood has to be invented." |
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There's an adjustment to control cutting depth, you can use it on two thickness' of cable without further adjustment, and to top it off you can easily remove the blade for sharpening. I don't see an adjustment to control cutting depth on mine, it has a round blade that is held in place by a single screw. Though the tool is not symetrical and does cut deeper on one side. Rob |
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message ervers.com... According to R.H. : A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ Rob -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- Don, I didn't see any answers in your post, just the quote from the OP and your sig. I'm not asking you to re-write it, but if you still have your original reply saved somewhere, maybe you could post it or at least figure out the problem. Rob |
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Rich Grise writes:
2 5/8" long? That's some BIG keyholes! These are keyholes for warded locks, not cylinder locks. The hole has to be big enough for the wards to fit through, and is typically on the order of 1/2 inch high. The widest part is the shaft hole that someone might look through, which from memory I would say is around 3/16 inch in diameter. And the hole in the cover plate is often made larger than the internal hole in the lock mechanism. As to the cover, you want it to work so that when you push it aside to use the keyhole, you push more or less horizontally and only a little upward, so it swings back but not too readily. To implement that, the cover is pivoted at a point some little way above the actual hole. See: http://www.antiquehardware.com/image...0038909-lg.jpg http://www.historichouseparts.com/images/VH0324-02.JPG -- Mark Brader, Toronto "But I do't have a '' key o my termial." -- Lynn Gold My text in this article is in the public domain. |
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According to R.H. :
[ ... ] I didn't see any answers in your post, just the quote from the OP and your sig. I'm not asking you to re-write it, but if you still have your original reply saved somewhere, maybe you could post it or at least figure out the problem. I know *what* the problem is. 1) My ISP's news server connection times out when I take a while editing an article. (My followups to this subject usually take long enough. 2) As a result, after spell-checking I usually save a copy to the file /tmp/safety before attempting to send. 3) Then (after I get the error message) again say that I want to followup to the same article, and edit away everything which is there and and read in /tmp/safety before sending it out. Apparently, this time I was distracted and forgot to delete the original information and read in /tmp/safety. Here is the original, minus the headers: ================================================== ==================== According to R.H. : A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ O.K. Posting from rec.crafts.metalworking again: 587) The fancier control transformer from a Lionel electric train setup. Two basic variable transformer sections for controlling two different trains on two track sections (which may or may not interlink). The two black buttons which say "reverse" interrupt the power momentarily to step a reversing switch in the engines. The red handle I'm not positive about, since I never had this model, but I suspect that it is for controlling track switches to divert the trains from one track section to another. I do remember that there was a red button to engage a decoupler to allow the train to leave some of the cars behind at selected points. The one which I had was only for a single train. 588) That circular blade seems rather sharp, so I suspect that this is intended to split something in ribbon or tape form which has been laid on top of a guide stick which fits the grooves. 589) Perhaps a weight to control wind whip of long-wire antennas? Or a non-conductive plumb bob (given the sharp point at the bottom? 590) A coin dispenser, such as the conductor on busses or trolleys once would wear. 591) Hmmm ... this looks as though it is intended to sample water (or some other liquid) from a given level in a tank or a well casing. As I see it, you lower it into the liquid with a second line holding the stopper raised to allow liquid to flow through it until it gets to the desired depth, then you release the second line, allowing the stopper to close, and draw the entire device back to the surface. It looks like a rather kludgy variation on a Nissen bottle, (I hope that I got the spelling right) used by oceanographers to take samples at various depths. 592) Some form of blacksmith's tool. The square shank fits into the "Hardy" (square) hole in the anvil. There is another hole (Prichard, IIRC) which is round, and is used for other purposes. It looks as though this is for forming rings of fairly small thickness material. Now to see what others have said. However -- I would like to propose a change in the item numbering scheme. You never have as many as ten, so what I would suggest is a number encoding the puzzle page number (102 in this case), followed by a hyphen and a single digit. So this last one above would become: "102-6" instead of "592". This might make it more obvious to those who post answers to the previous week's puzzles that there is something different here. :-) Enjoy, DoN. ================================================== ==================== -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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However -- I would like to propose a change in the item
numbering scheme. You never have as many as ten, so what I would suggest is a number encoding the puzzle page number (102 in this case), followed by a hyphen and a single digit. So this last one above would become: "102-6" instead of "592". I've got a couple of other minor changes that I'm thinking about, I'll add your idea to the list, though I haven't yet decided if I'll implement any of them. Thanks for the re-post. Rob |
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"R.H." wrote in message
... A new set has just been posted: http://puzzlephotos.blogspot.com/ I'm an American who works for a major company, but occasionally travels on business overseas. I am currently in China and when I try to access the above website from there, I get the following: -------- Network Error (tcp_error) A communication error occurred: "Operation timed out" The Web Server may be down, too busy, or experiencing other problems preventing it from responding to requests. You may wish to try again at a later time. For assistance, contact your network support team. ---------- I can get the website when I use the company VPN through a gateway in the USA. I guess this website is too subversive for the Chinese government. :-) (Actually some other blogs on the site might be in that category) Jerry |
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I guess this website is too subversive for the Chinese government.
Thanks for the info, I have noticed that I don't get any hits from China but I never thought that it might be banned by the government. Part of me would like to think that my site is too subversive for them but I'm guessing that all blogspot sites are blocked from the general public. Rob |
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According to R.H. :
However -- I would like to propose a change in the item numbering scheme. You never have as many as ten, so what I would suggest is a number encoding the puzzle page number (102 in this case), followed by a hyphen and a single digit. So this last one above would become: "102-6" instead of "592". I've got a couple of other minor changes that I'm thinking about, I'll add your idea to the list, though I haven't yet decided if I'll implement any of them. At least, please consider adding a *very* visible bar -- say a black and yellow diagonal striped bar -- separating the new puzzle photos from the display of the previous week's. Alternatives would be to change the background color for the area displaying the last week's puzzle photos -- or make it necessary to click a link to see them. It currently really looks too much like a continuation of the puzzles, and many who don't come buy every week make the mistake of answering the ones which have already been answered. Thanks for the re-post. You're welcome. Thanks for the continuing supply of puzzles. Enjoy, DoN. -- Email: | Voice (all times): (703) 938-4564 (too) near Washington D.C. | http://www.d-and-d.com/dnichols/DoN.html --- Black Holes are where God is dividing by zero --- |
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At least, please consider adding a *very* visible bar -- say a
black and yellow diagonal striped bar -- separating the new puzzle photos from the display of the previous week's. I'll keep my eye out for a visible bar that will look good on my site, but until then I'll leave a good deal of space between the two latest posts. Alternatives would be to change the background color for the area displaying the last week's puzzle photos -- or make it necessary to click a link to see them. The reason that I keep the previous week's post on the front page is so that new visitors will see a wider range of objects. Some posts have tools for all six items, so the second set will hopefully contain something that will appeal to a larger number of people. I did find something that I was going to use as a separator between posts, but instead I decided to include it as one of the puzzles, it will be the last entry in this week's post. It's a little different than what is usually seen on my site, so depending on what kind of response it generates, I may or may not continue with similar puzzles. Rob |
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On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 23:22:18 GMT, "R.H."
wrote: At least, please consider adding a *very* visible bar -- say a black and yellow diagonal striped bar -- separating the new puzzle photos from the display of the previous week's. I'll keep my eye out for a visible bar that will look good on my site, but until then I'll leave a good deal of space between the two latest posts. Alternatives would be to change the background color for the area displaying the last week's puzzle photos -- or make it necessary to click a link to see them. The reason that I keep the previous week's post on the front page is so that new visitors will see a wider range of objects. Some posts have tools for all six items, so the second set will hopefully contain something that will appeal to a larger number of people. I did find something that I was going to use as a separator between posts, but instead I decided to include it as one of the puzzles, it will be the last entry in this week's post. It's a little different than what is usually seen on my site, so depending on what kind of response it generates, I may or may not continue with similar puzzles. Hi Rob, How about making thumbnails of last weeks puzzle entries and then putting them all in one row at the bottom of the page. That way people can get an idea of what they look like. Make it so they can click on any one of them to bring up last weeks set. Just an idea... -- Leon Fisk Grand Rapids MI/Zone 5b Remove no.spam for email |
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How about making thumbnails of last weeks puzzle entries and then putting them all in one row at the bottom of the page. That way people can get an idea of what they look like. Make it so they can click on any one of them to bring up last weeks set. That's a good idea, too late for this week but possibly for the following set, if I like how it looks. Rob |
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