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Ted Bennett
 
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This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.

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Ted Bennett
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"Ted Bennett" wrote in message
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This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.

--
Ted Bennett


Not sure about the effect on motor oil, but I have been eyeing up the
Kirkland Laundry soap empties for some type of coolant dispenser or similar
use. It's a mighty handy dispenser.


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I hope its not a problem to use them, because I do. I bought the 5 gallon
containers for the oils for my lathe and fill the soap jugs. They work real
nice because you can just dump the lid in and tighten, they self drain into
the jug. This is great with coolant or threading oil.
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"Ted Bennett" wrote in message
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This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.

--
Ted Bennett


Not sure about the effect on motor oil, but I have been eyeing up the
Kirkland Laundry soap empties for some type of coolant dispenser or
similar use. It's a mighty handy dispenser.



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Ted Bennett wrote:

This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.



Test the container with a finger or two
of oil for a couple weeks. I once filled
a plastic container with spindle oil. The
oil sweated out the sides of the container
over time.


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Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed?


No problem, its probably the same plastic used for oil anyway..look at the
recycling triangle on the bottom:

Both are probably "2"




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Ted Bennett wrote:


Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.


Have you ever heard the term "mouse milk"? (1)

Since you know the name of the product, you can look up the Material
Safety Data Sheet and find out what the reactivity and flammability and
pH of the product is, as well as what kinds of dyes and odorants the
manufacturer has used to make the stuff look and smell attractive.

And the lingering trace amounts of the actual product might be measured
in a few parts per million, but if you just need to know, in order to
calm your righteous paranoia, by all means, GO to the MSDS. Bless you!

You're a Good Person and People Like You and you have a Right To Know,
by golly! Don't let anybody tell you different!

Might as well look up the carcenogenicity of the plastic used in the
container, too, as you might wind up with cancer of the crankshaft, and
gawd knows, nobody wants their crankshaft to fall off before they're
too senile to remember what it was orignally intended for!

You can fill up one of them intiguing plastic containers with your
favorite motor oil and cut the top off so you have room to drop a test
hamster in there and you can watch him swimming around in the golden
liquid and if the hamster doesn't turn pea green and start puking after
a day or two, well, you know that the plastic container and whatever it
had in it won't hurt your motorsickle.

That's the way them MSDS boys test hazardous substances. They drown a
lab rat in 5000 times the lethal dose, say it killed the test specimen
and declare the material to be diabolically hazardous!

(1) Engineers talk about "mouse milk" when they consider the
vanishingly small advantages or disadvantage caused by very small
quantities of anything. They call it "mouse milk" because you have to
milk about 100 mice to get a few drops of it...

I'd bet you would have to "milk" 500 empty soap bottle to get a single
drop of the odorant that excites desperate housewives to fondle
themselves intimately as they watch "Days of Our Lives"...

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Ted Bennett wrote:

This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.


1. I'm assuming we're talking about a laundry detergent container, not a
dish detergent container. It shouldn't be an issue.

2. Why not use old oil containers? It's pretty easy to get used quart
containers with those handy pour spouts, if you ask around. And you get
the benefit of those super-accurate level indicators on the side!

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Later,
John



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"ATP*" wrote in message
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"Ted Bennett" wrote in message
...
This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.

--
Ted Bennett


Not sure about the effect on motor oil, but I have been eyeing up the
Kirkland Laundry soap empties for some type of coolant dispenser or

similar
use. It's a mighty handy dispenser.


Be a little careful, here. I save my used motor oil to use in starting
fires in the wood stove. I'll save you the effort of having to repeat a
couple "experiments" I did. 1). Milk jugs tend to leak. They're too
damned thin. 2). Laundry detergent jugs with the "push button" tap don't
work, either. The oil rots out the little "rubber" cap on the tap, it
crumbles and the oil leaks out.

Jerry


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I use those to carry water at the track. I keep pre-mixed coolant in
them. I can top off the coolant between rounds without needing a funnel.
- -
Rex Burkheimer
WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX

ATP* wrote:
"Ted Bennett" wrote in message
...

This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.

--
Ted Bennett



Not sure about the effect on motor oil, but I have been eyeing up the
Kirkland Laundry soap empties for some type of coolant dispenser or similar
use. It's a mighty handy dispenser.


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"Ted Bennett" wrote in message
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This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed?


No it would not. Poly bottles do not soak up much of anything. If your
rinse water does not foam then you should be just fine.


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Roger Shoaf
If you are not part of the solution, you are not dissolved in the solvent.




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Make sure there are no traces of an oxidizer remaining.

Ted Bennett wrote:
This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.

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We used old white bleach bottles to store darkroom chemicals. They
should be strong enough to handle oil.

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Mike wrote:
We used old white bleach bottles to store darkroom chemicals. They
should be strong enough to handle oil.


There's a recycle triangle on the bottom of plastic oil containers. It
has a number 2 in the middle of the traingle, and maybe the letters
HDPE. That will "get 'er done".

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Ted Bennett wrote:
This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...rgery-nc_x.htm

North Carolina surgeons unwittingly used dirty tools
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Sometime last year, elevator workers at two
hospitals drained hydraulic fluid into empty soap containers and capped
them without changing the labels.

Not long afterward, medical staff complained that some of their surgical
tools felt slick. But it was not until January that nearly 4,000
patients learned their surgeons had unknowingly used instruments washed
in the slippery fluid instead of soap.
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Matt wrote in news:czb7f.194$lg.32
@news01.roc.ny:

Ted Bennett wrote:
This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.



http://www.usatoday.com/news/health/...rgery-nc_x.htm

North Carolina surgeons unwittingly used dirty tools
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) — Sometime last year, elevator workers at two
hospitals drained hydraulic fluid into empty soap containers and capped
them without changing the labels.

Not long afterward, medical staff complained that some of their surgical
tools felt slick. But it was not until January that nearly 4,000
patients learned their surgeons had unknowingly used instruments washed
in the slippery fluid instead of soap.


If it was sterile then it is no big deal really.

pierce


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Matt wrote:

North Carolina surgeons unwittingly used dirty tools
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) - Sometime last year, elevator workers at two
hospitals drained hydraulic fluid into empty soap containers and capped
them without changing the labels.


When work was slow in the engineering test lab where I was working, I
used to do maintenance on the machine tools. I decided that the
vertical mill looked a little shabby, so I decided to paint it.

I found a can of grey paint and what I thought was paint thinner. But
one of the other guys in the lab had used that can to save prussian
blue layout fluid without re-labeling it.

As I poured the supposed thinner into the grey paint, I noticed how
dark it looked, but the darkness vanished as I mixed it into the paint.

Later on, after the paint dried, the vertical mill was purple...

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On 24 Oct 2005 18:15:22 -0700, "krusty kritter"
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Matt wrote:

North Carolina surgeons unwittingly used dirty tools
RALEIGH, N.C. (AP) - Sometime last year, elevator workers at two
hospitals drained hydraulic fluid into empty soap containers and capped
them without changing the labels.


When work was slow in the engineering test lab where I was working, I
used to do maintenance on the machine tools. I decided that the
vertical mill looked a little shabby, so I decided to paint it.

I found a can of grey paint and what I thought was paint thinner. But
one of the other guys in the lab had used that can to save prussian
blue layout fluid without re-labeling it.

As I poured the supposed thinner into the grey paint, I noticed how
dark it looked, but the darkness vanished as I mixed it into the paint.

Later on, after the paint dried, the vertical mill was purple...

Senior son had removed the paint from a foot stool, stained it and
wanted to varnish it. I happened to be busy when he asked, so sent him
down to the shop for a small can of varnish. After he had finished, he
was complaining about how strong the varnish smelled so I went to
investigate; he had varnished the foot stool with PVC cement as
clearly stated on the label. By the way, the stool still looks nice
after twenty years.
Gerry :-)}
London, Canada
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As many have said, make sure you label the container. When I was a QA
safety inspector one of the more common writeups was unlabeled
containers. You can't tell if a can contains coffee or acid (in our
workplace it was hard to tell even if you tasted it).

On Mon, 24 Oct 2005 20:34:16 GMT, Matt
wrote:

Ted Bennett wrote:
This is a little off-topic, but you guys know everything, right?

Would it be a bad idea to store unused motor oil in a plastic container
that has been used for liquid detergent if it has been cleaned and
rinsed? I am more concerned about bad effects on the oil than the
container, via leaching of something into the oil.

I like the container because of its neatly enclosed drip-free pouring
spout, but I can still smell the detergent after several rinsings.

Thanks for any pointers or warnings.


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"krusty kritter" wrote in message
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When work was slow in the engineering test lab where I was working, I
used to do maintenance on the machine tools. I decided that the
vertical mill looked a little shabby, so I decided to paint it.

I found a can of grey paint and what I thought was paint thinner. But
one of the other guys in the lab had used that can to save prussian
blue layout fluid without re-labeling it.

As I poured the supposed thinner into the grey paint, I noticed how
dark it looked, but the darkness vanished as I mixed it into the paint.

Later on, after the paint dried, the vertical mill was purple...


That is a great story. How did the paint hold up on the machine?

--
Roger Shoaf

If knowledge is power, and power corrupts, what does this say about the
Congress?


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