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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?
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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


Chuckle!

36" lathe for your basement? Better be a walk-in. :-)

It might be a good idea to specify a swing while you're asking, assuming you
aren't really looking for a 36" machine. Typically, when a lathe is
discussed, swing is the designation that is mentioned, with the distance
between centers coming next. A 36" machine would be a monster, needing
its own foundation, far more than a basement floor could support properly.

Good luck--

Harold


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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


Logan, Southbend, and Atlas all made lathes about 36" long with swings of
about 9". Nice machines and small enough to cart down the stairs. As to
small mills, stuff that's smaller than a Bridgeport and not total crap is
hard to come by. (My personal opinion of the Asian mill/drill) Several
fellows on this NG have reported disassembling a Bridgeport and skidding it
down the basement steps. Don't know about back upVBG

As to where to look, everywhere you can think of: newspaper want ads and
"shoppers", Auction bills, estate sales, used machinery jockeys (Surely some
in Toronto and Detroit), Ebay, ask everyone you know to look out for you,
etc. Persistence will pay off.

Good Luck

Karl



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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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"distracted" wrote in message
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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


Chuckle!

36" lathe for your basement? Better be a walk-in. :-)

It might be a good idea to specify a swing while you're asking, assuming
you
aren't really looking for a 36" machine. Typically, when a lathe is
discussed, swing is the designation that is mentioned, with the distance
between centers coming next. A 36" machine would be a monster, needing
its own foundation, far more than a basement floor could support properly.

Good luck--


Moving a 36" lathe is actually quite doable Harold, depending on the lathe.
An Atlas/Craftsman 12"x36" can be moved by one person if the lathe is
strapped to a refrigerator dolly. A friend & I have moved a Clausing 12x36
and a Rockwell 11x24 to our respective basements, but each of those required
a fair amount of disassembly. Each of the latter two weighs around 1,000
lbs.

A Monarch lathe would be beyond by skill and tool set, but I seem to recal
pictures on the web somewhere of someone who managed it with the help of
professional riggers. They brought it in through an outside concrete
stairwell with a crane, AIR.

I've come to the conclusion that 1/2 ton is about as much as I can handle in
a basement move and that drops a few tens of pounds as each year passes.




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I am looking at a small 36" lathe i.e. between 9 and 12" diameter
swing. It must be a "bench style" because I will take it at least
partly apart to move. Probably around 10" siwng is where I will end
up because of weight.

As for the basement floor strength... This is another reason for
looking at a lighter weight machine.

I have looked at a couple atlas lathes; 9"x36", a rockwell 10"x36",
and a southbend 9"x36 all of which seem like they would do the job.

Anyone know where I can get a good quality lathe like this or a small
mill?

Eric

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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?



You must have a hell of a basement if you can get a 36" lathe in it.

Gunner


Leftwingers are like pond scum. They are green, slimy, show up where
they are not wanted, and interfere with the fishing.

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Try Rottblott's at Front and Bathurst. They are mostly a scrap dealer, but
also deal machines. They had a Modern Standard lathe for sale, the last time
I was there.

If you are willing to pay full dealers price, Ford Machinery in Richmond
Hill.

You won't get any outright ibargains/i at either, but you might find
"reasonable" machine for "reasonable" price. I bought my Excello mill from
Rottblotts. I've also bought several machines from ebay sellers in Detroit
or Rochester area, rented a flatbed truck to go fetch them. That will be
cheaper than Rottblotts or Ford, for sure. There seem to be a lot of
conventional machines begging for bidders in Detroit, most any time I look.

Adam Smith,
Midland ON


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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?



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The guys who were hooting at you were doing so because when you say
'a 36" lathe' they took it to mean 36" SWING, not longest piece you
can swing between centers.

The best way to buy a lathe like you're looking for is to buy it from
the original purchaser, along with everything that goes with it. I
did this once for my first 9" South Bend. The guy was *amazing*. He
still had the wooden crate leaning in the corner of his shop where
it had sat for over fifty years! If you buy from a machinery dealer or
an ebay seller you will just get a "base package" and it will cost you
many hundreds of dollars to get it fully tooled. Further, South Bend is
now out of business although someone took over the parts end. New parts
are now *much* more expensive.

So look locally. Talk to the guys at your local technical college's
machine shop program. Look on http://www.craigslist.org for the CL near
you. Look in your local classifieds. Find all of the local nickel ad
type papers and look in all of them. Ask around.

Finally, when you are looking for something, POST YOUR LOCATION. There
are hundreds of guys on this NG but everyone will assume you live far
away from them.

GWE
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In article , Grant Erwin says...

Finally, when you are looking for something, POST YOUR LOCATION. There
are hundreds of guys on this NG but everyone will assume you live far
away from them.


Amazingly, he did. It was toronto or ontario area. That does
cover a bit of ground of course....

But for the OP, grant's suggestions are good. As for the
hooting... well, yes. There was hooting. Probably a slow
day for the hoot-ers. I managed to figure out that the
36 was bed, not swing....

Jim


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I am looking at a small 36" lathe i.e. between 9 and 12" diameter
swing. It must be a "bench style" because I will take it at least
partly apart to move. Probably around 10" siwng is where I will end
up because of weight.

As for the basement floor strength... This is another reason for
looking at a lighter weight machine.

I have looked at a couple atlas lathes; 9"x36", a rockwell 10"x36",
and a southbend 9"x36 all of which seem like they would do the job.

Anyone know where I can get a good quality lathe like this or a small
mill?

Eric


Dont leave out the Logan 11" lathe. Its a 5C spindle. A decent lathe
of its type and parts Are available. Both bench (or on legs) or the
rarer cabinet styles are still available. I personally think its one
of the better choices for lathes of this type.
But thats sticktly a semi educated opinion.
Gunner


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On 9 Apr 2005 18:06:44 -0700,
(distracted)
wrote:

I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?



You must have a hell of a basement if you can get a 36" lathe in it.

Gunner


Leftwingers are like pond scum. They are green, slimy, show up where
they are not wanted, and interfere with the fishing.

Strider


"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas


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"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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"distracted" wrote in message
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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


Chuckle!

36" lathe for your basement? Better be a walk-in. :-)

It might be a good idea to specify a swing while you're asking, assuming
you
aren't really looking for a 36" machine. Typically, when a lathe is
discussed, swing is the designation that is mentioned, with the distance
between centers coming next. A 36" machine would be a monster,

needing
its own foundation, far more than a basement floor could support

properly.

Good luck--


Moving a 36" lathe is actually quite doable Harold, depending on the

lathe.
An Atlas/Craftsman 12"x36" can be moved by one person if the lathe is
strapped to a refrigerator dolly. A friend & I have moved a Clausing

12x36
and a Rockwell 11x24 to our respective basements, but each of those

required
a fair amount of disassembly. Each of the latter two weighs around 1,000
lbs.

A Monarch lathe would be beyond by skill and tool set, but I seem to recal
pictures on the web somewhere of someone who managed it with the help of
professional riggers. They brought it in through an outside concrete
stairwell with a crane, AIR.

I've come to the conclusion that 1/2 ton is about as much as I can handle

in
a basement move and that drops a few tens of pounds as each year passes.

I agree, but you're talking about smaller machines, not 36" machines. I
think you missed my dry humor. As I said, lathes, at least in the
environment in which I was trained, are not specified by bed length, but by
swing. Bed length is important to, but doesn't define a machine in the
same sense as does the swing capacity, which I'm sure you understand. As
the post stands, to the casual observer, you'd be talking about a large
lathe. Needless to say, you and I understand he's not talking about such a
critter. I thought it was a great opportunity to pass on to a novice, in
a light hearted manner, a way of asking in such a way that he/she would be
better understood by the masses.

Look at it this way. If you had an interest in a 12" machine with a
center distance of something in the area of 36", but found a lathe that had
the asked for 36" centers but was a 24" machine, would you still have an
interest? Yet, if you found a 12" machine that had longer or shorter than
36" centers, it might still be acceptable. Bed length doesn't change a
machine's features the way swing does.

Center distance can be quite important, but most lathes have the vast
majority of wear within a narrow band, near the chuck. In essence, bed
length is rarely used once you're beyond about 24".

Harold


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"Harold and Susan Vordos" wrote in message
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Moving a 36" lathe is actually quite doable Harold, depending on the

lathe.
An Atlas/Craftsman 12"x36" can be moved by one person if the lathe is
strapped to a refrigerator dolly. A friend & I have moved a Clausing

12x36
and a Rockwell 11x24 to our respective basements, but each of those

required
a fair amount of disassembly. Each of the latter two weighs around 1,000
lbs.

A Monarch lathe would be beyond by skill and tool set, but I seem to
recal
pictures on the web somewhere of someone who managed it with the help of
professional riggers. They brought it in through an outside concrete
stairwell with a crane, AIR.

I've come to the conclusion that 1/2 ton is about as much as I can handle

in
a basement move and that drops a few tens of pounds as each year passes.

I agree, but you're talking about smaller machines, not 36" machines. I
think you missed my dry humor. As I said, lathes, at least in the
environment in which I was trained, are not specified by bed length, but
by
swing. Bed length is important to, but doesn't define a machine in the
same sense as does the swing capacity, which I'm sure you understand.
As
the post stands, to the casual observer, you'd be talking about a large
lathe. Needless to say, you and I understand he's not talking about such
a
critter. I thought it was a great opportunity to pass on to a novice,
in
a light hearted manner, a way of asking in such a way that he/she would be
better understood by the masses.


Yep - missed the joke. Reading too much on the Internet trains one not
think literally but to read between the lines to discern what was actually
meant rather than what was stated or asked. At least it seems to have
affected me that way.

Look at it this way. If you had an interest in a 12" machine with a
center distance of something in the area of 36", but found a lathe that
had
the asked for 36" centers but was a 24" machine, would you still have an
interest? Yet, if you found a 12" machine that had longer or shorter
than
36" centers, it might still be acceptable. Bed length doesn't change a
machine's features the way swing does.

Center distance can be quite important, but most lathes have the vast
majority of wear within a narrow band, near the chuck. In essence, bed
length is rarely used once you're beyond about 24".


That depends - the last 12" on my Clausing 5914 makes a nice place to park a
bed turret g. The turret doesn't get used much, but it would be used a
lot less if I had to load/unload it.

Mike


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Center distance can be quite important, but most lathes have the vast
majority of wear within a narrow band, near the chuck. In essence, bed
length is rarely used once you're beyond about 24".


That depends - the last 12" on my Clausing 5914 makes a nice place to park

a
bed turret g. The turret doesn't get used much, but it would be used a
lot less if I had to load/unload it.

Mike


Oh, man, do I envy you that! I park mine on the floor, with a nice
finished wooden cover over it. It's getting more and more difficult to put
on the machine as I get older. There are times when I wish I had a few
more feet of bed length.

Harold


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I tried to look up Rottblott in canada411.com so that I could phone
them. No listings. Do you know if they go by a different name? I
wanted to make sure they were still open and find out what their hours
of operation were. Eric

"Adam Smith" wrote in message . ..
Try Rottblott's at Front and Bathurst. They are mostly a scrap dealer, but
also deal machines. They had a Modern Standard lathe for sale, the last time
I was there.

If you are willing to pay full dealers price, Ford Machinery in Richmond
Hill.

You won't get any outright ibargains/i at either, but you might find
"reasonable" machine for "reasonable" price. I bought my Excello mill from
Rottblotts. I've also bought several machines from ebay sellers in Detroit
or Rochester area, rented a flatbed truck to go fetch them. That will be
cheaper than Rottblotts or Ford, for sure. There seem to be a lot of
conventional machines begging for bidders in Detroit, most any time I look.

Adam Smith,
Midland ON


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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?

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Hello,

I'll ignore the 36" swing vs 36" centres comments since they have
been done

The "Tri-Ad" paper is a pretty good place to look. I think it's
called something else now (don't have one laying around, actually
cleaned up around here on the weekend). Its the thick buy and sell type
paper not called "Buy & Sell". I found the Buy & Sell doesn't have as
much machinery in it. There will be several ads in the paper for
dealers and such as well as the itesm being sold by people. (look in
the Equipment section right before the Trailers section)

You would be surprised what you can fit in your basement, I have a
Colchester Dominion 13x36 in my cold cellar. (Gunner: basically the
same as your Colchester) Took it apart, took the base down the stairs
and a budy and I took the head down. I then strapped the bed to a
sturdy doubled up aluminum ladder and sent it in a basement window to a
series of come-a-longs and lowered it a cart that I wheeled into the
"lathe room"

If you want auctions with machinery there are many thought I have had
good luck at:

http://mrjutzi.ca and http://www.corpassets.com/ The first has most of
their auctions in the Guelph/Kitchener areas and don't have a buyers
premium.


TTYL, Jeff



distracted wrote:

I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?



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Go to busy bee tools or KBC in Mississauga. Chinese made, low cost and
portable. Good for hobbies...

"distracted" wrote in message
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I am looking at a small 36" lathe i.e. between 9 and 12" diameter
swing. It must be a "bench style" because I will take it at least
partly apart to move. Probably around 10" siwng is where I will end
up because of weight.

As for the basement floor strength... This is another reason for
looking at a lighter weight machine.

I have looked at a couple atlas lathes; 9"x36", a rockwell 10"x36",
and a southbend 9"x36 all of which seem like they would do the job.

Anyone know where I can get a good quality lathe like this or a small
mill?

Eric

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On 9 Apr 2005 18:06:44 -0700, (distracted)
wrote:

I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?



You must have a hell of a basement if you can get a 36" lathe in it.

Gunner


Leftwingers are like pond scum. They are green, slimy, show up where
they are not wanted, and interfere with the fishing.

Strider



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Karl Townsend wrote:
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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?



Logan, Southbend, and Atlas all made lathes about 36" long with swings of
about 9". Nice machines and small enough to cart down the stairs. As to
small mills, stuff that's smaller than a Bridgeport and not total crap is
hard to come by. (My personal opinion of the Asian mill/drill) Several
fellows on this NG have reported disassembling a Bridgeport and skidding it
down the basement steps. Don't know about back upVBG


I would also considering adding the 11x36 or 10x36 Rockwell to this
list. Decent machines, cabinet mount, variable speed. You can sometimes
buy them worth the money, but parts are scarce and expensive.

As to where to look, everywhere you can think of: newspaper want ads and
"shoppers", Auction bills, estate sales, used machinery jockeys (Surely some
in Toronto and Detroit), Ebay, ask everyone you know to look out for you,
etc. Persistence will pay off.


Check the online classifeds of all the newspapers within driving
distance. Make an icon for each, check them daily and search on "lathe
mill".

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distracted wrote:

I have looked at a couple atlas lathes; 9"x36", a rockwell 10"x36",
and a southbend 9"x36 all of which seem like they would do the job.


I like Atlas lathes, but cannot recommend due to the extensive use of
Zamak/pot metal where all oterhs use steel. Atlas/Craftsman is the only
"consumer grade" metal lathe in that size. Having said that, if you
learn the weak points and work within the design parameters, you can do
good work with one. Just don't buy one that's clapped out unless you
enjoy the restorative process.

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WM Automotive
Fort Worth TX
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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


NAMES is coming up very soon. Take a weekend drive to Detroit on the 23
and check out the various machinery dealers.

chuck
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That is because I mispelled it. Sorry.

Rotblott &Sons Limited
560 Front Street West, Toronto, ON M5V1C1
(416) 703-0456
(416) 703-0460 (fax)

Adam Smith
Midland, ON


"distracted" wrote in message
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I tried to look up Rottblott in canada411.com so that I could phone
them. No listings. Do you know if they go by a different name? I
wanted to make sure they were still open and find out what their hours
of operation were. Eric





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Hi,
I live in the Detroit area but I sometimes work in Toronto.
I have a Atlas 12" lathe with a 42in bed for sale.
Lathe doesn't hace a quick change box but has a full set of change gears.
This is a very tight machine. I can't pick up any spindle runout greater
than .0002.
Bed has very little wear. Lead screw backlash is around .015.
1 1/2 x 8 thread and Morse taper #3 on the headstock and Morse taper #2 in
the tail.
I have a metal bench. (not fancy) Tooling could be worked out.
I will be in Toronto on the 23rd or 29th so you may be in luck since this
lathe and bench fit in my truck.

I also have a Atlas or Walker Turner drill press from the same era for sale.
Email me (remove the notthis) or post here.

Thanks

Eddie







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I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
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distracted wrote:
I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.


Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


I bought a fairly good southbend 9a lathe from eBay and paid a
*reasonable* price - Unfortunately with work and more importantly
space, I have hardly used her. Great American Iron. Lots of extras

Would be willing to let it go for the same as I paid or might part it
out on eBay
I'm in Toronto

email works for contact

Tom

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I have tried the tri-ad (now isell.ca). That has landed some leads.
Almost bought a Southbend 9x36 as a result, but timing was not good.

Thanks for the auction sites. I am checking them out! I have also
been watching www.infassets.com for upcoming auctions that might have
something good.

Eric

Jeff Williams wrote in message ...
Hello,

I'll ignore the 36" swing vs 36" centres comments since they have
been done

The "Tri-Ad" paper is a pretty good place to look. I think it's
called something else now (don't have one laying around, actually
cleaned up around here on the weekend). Its the thick buy and sell type
paper not called "Buy & Sell". I found the Buy & Sell doesn't have as
much machinery in it. There will be several ads in the paper for
dealers and such as well as the itesm being sold by people. (look in
the Equipment section right before the Trailers section)

You would be surprised what you can fit in your basement, I have a
Colchester Dominion 13x36 in my cold cellar. (Gunner: basically the
same as your Colchester) Took it apart, took the base down the stairs
and a budy and I took the head down. I then strapped the bed to a
sturdy doubled up aluminum ladder and sent it in a basement window to a
series of come-a-longs and lowered it a cart that I wheeled into the
"lathe room"

If you want auctions with machinery there are many thought I have had
good luck at:

http://mrjutzi.ca and http://www.corpassets.com/ The first has most of
their auctions in the Guelph/Kitchener areas and don't have a buyers
premium.


TTYL, Jeff



distracted wrote:

I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.
Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
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On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:57:09 -0400, Jeff Williams
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You would be surprised what you can fit in your basement, I have a
Colchester Dominion 13x36 in my cold cellar. (Gunner: basically the
same as your Colchester) Took it apart, took the base down the stairs
and a budy and I took the head down. I then strapped the bed to a
sturdy doubled up aluminum ladder and sent it in a basement window to a
series of come-a-longs and lowered it a cart that I wheeled into the
"lathe room"


G....your next of kin is gonna love you after you have gone on to
the eternal break room.

Gunner

"To be civilized is to restrain the ability to commit mayhem.
To be incapable of committing mayhem is not the mark of the civilized,
merely the domesticated." - Trefor Thomas
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Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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[ ... ]

That depends - the last 12" on my Clausing 5914 makes a nice place to park

a
bed turret g. The turret doesn't get used much, but it would be used a
lot less if I had to load/unload it.


[ ... ]

Oh, man, do I envy you that! I park mine on the floor, with a nice
finished wooden cover over it. It's getting more and more difficult to put
on the machine as I get older. There are times when I wish I had a few
more feet of bed length.


I came up with a solution for that for my 12x24" Clausing. I
made a table just the height of the ways using 4x4s as legs, and 2x4s as
cross pieces, with a sheet of Plexiglass defining the height on which
the turret slides. The long 2x4s nearer the floor serve as a 'V' to set
spare chucks onto. The tailstock, while heavy, is not too heavy to lift
clear, and then the turret can slide onto the bed.

Even better would be to have a separate section of lathe bed
(perhaps the relatively unworn end of a badly worn bed), mounted on a
similar table, but carefully adjusted so the ways lined up in height.
But I don't have a spare section of lathe bed of the proper profile.

Enjoy,
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"DoN. Nichols" wrote in message
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In article ,
Harold and Susan Vordos wrote:

"Mike Henry" wrote in message
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[ ... ]

That depends - the last 12" on my Clausing 5914 makes a nice place to

park
a
bed turret g. The turret doesn't get used much, but it would be used

a
lot less if I had to load/unload it.


[ ... ]

Oh, man, do I envy you that! I park mine on the floor, with a nice
finished wooden cover over it. It's getting more and more difficult to

put
on the machine as I get older. There are times when I wish I had a few
more feet of bed length.


I came up with a solution for that for my 12x24" Clausing. I
made a table just the height of the ways using 4x4s as legs, and 2x4s as
cross pieces, with a sheet of Plexiglass defining the height on which
the turret slides. The long 2x4s nearer the floor serve as a 'V' to set
spare chucks onto. The tailstock, while heavy, is not too heavy to lift
clear, and then the turret can slide onto the bed.

Even better would be to have a separate section of lathe bed
(perhaps the relatively unworn end of a badly worn bed), mounted on a
similar table, but carefully adjusted so the ways lined up in height.
But I don't have a spare section of lathe bed of the proper profile.


That's not a bad idea. I've stored my chucks under a bench near the
headstock, but having a setup like yours would certainly solve two problems.
I've always worried about the chucks rolling about while sitting on the
bottom shelf. When we finally move out of the shop, I think a platform
as you described is in the making. Wouldn't take up any more space than
the cover I'm using now and it certainly would save my back.

Thanks, DoN.

Harold


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In article , Gunner says...

G....your next of kin is gonna love you after you have gone on to
the eternal break room.


Note to all: I've informed ms. Mulligan that if I cork off, I'll
have the stuff disposed of beforehand. If I cork off unexpectedly,
it will be the purchases responsibility to have it all rigged out
on their nickel.

The only trouble here is if I somehow win the lotto and want to
move to a fancier spot. But even that somehow wouldn't be *too*
bad....

Jim


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Gunner wrote:
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:57:09 -0400, Jeff Williams
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You would be surprised what you can fit in your basement, I have a
Colchester Dominion 13x36 in my cold cellar. (Gunner: basically the
same as your Colchester) Took it apart, took the base down the stairs
and a budy and I took the head down. I then strapped the bed to a
sturdy doubled up aluminum ladder and sent it in a basement window to a
series of come-a-longs and lowered it a cart that I wheeled into the
"lathe room"



G....your next of kin is gonna love you after you have gone on to
the eternal break room.


I have run across several lathes where the owner said "I don't know
anything about it. It came with the house".
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Tue, 12 Apr 2005 03:55:29 GMT in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
On Mon, 11 Apr 2005 07:57:09 -0400, Jeff Williams
wrote:


You would be surprised what you can fit in your basement, I have a
Colchester Dominion 13x36 in my cold cellar. (Gunner: basically the
same as your Colchester) Took it apart, took the base down the stairs
and a budy and I took the head down. I then strapped the bed to a
sturdy doubled up aluminum ladder and sent it in a basement window to a
series of come-a-longs and lowered it a cart that I wheeled into the
"lathe room"


G....your next of kin is gonna love you after you have gone on to
the eternal break room.


I can see the ad for the Estate Sale

"House, with basement shop (machines included, as is, where is.)"

Or

"Appliances included: washer/dryer, stove, refrigerator, Colchester
lathe..."

tschus
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Hey distracted,

Not sure whether it qualifies within your desired "few hours drive",
but NAMES is on a week from Saturday and Sunday. April 23 &24, just
south of Detroit. Always some good stuff for sale, and for sure
some....whoops... X that,....it's ALL good stuff, to see. If you
think about going, get back to me and I'll help with directions.

By the way, coming back with machinery, the only "Customs" charge is
for PST and GST on the equivalent Canadian funds. No duty, and no
hassle.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

ps...if you do go, have me paged and I'll buy you a coffee.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


distracted wrote:
I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.


Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


I bought a fairly good southbend 9a lathe from eBay and paid a
*reasonable* price - Unfortunately with work and more importantly
space, I have hardly used her. Great American Iron. Lots of extras

Would be willing to let it go for the same as I paid or might part it
out on eBay
I'm in Toronto

email works for contact

Tom



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Brain,

NAMES... What is this? A sale of some kind?

Eric

Brian Lawson wrote in message . ..
Hey distracted,

Not sure whether it qualifies within your desired "few hours drive",
but NAMES is on a week from Saturday and Sunday. April 23 &24, just
south of Detroit. Always some good stuff for sale, and for sure
some....whoops... X that,....it's ALL good stuff, to see. If you
think about going, get back to me and I'll help with directions.

By the way, coming back with machinery, the only "Customs" charge is
for PST and GST on the equivalent Canadian funds. No duty, and no
hassle.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

ps...if you do go, have me paged and I'll buy you a coffee.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


distracted wrote:
I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.


Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?


I bought a fairly good southbend 9a lathe from eBay and paid a
*reasonable* price - Unfortunately with work and more importantly
space, I have hardly used her. Great American Iron. Lots of extras

Would be willing to let it go for the same as I paid or might part it
out on eBay
I'm in Toronto

email works for contact

Tom

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Brain,

NAMES... What is this? A sale of some kind?

Eric


North American Model Engineering Society exposition. A display of
models of all kinds. I won't miss it. Here's the web site. Be sure
to look at the pics under the exposition page.
http://www.modelengineeringsoc.com/

Pete Keillor

Brian Lawson wrote in message . ..
Hey distracted,

Not sure whether it qualifies within your desired "few hours drive",
but NAMES is on a week from Saturday and Sunday. April 23 &24, just
south of Detroit. Always some good stuff for sale, and for sure
some....whoops... X that,....it's ALL good stuff, to see. If you
think about going, get back to me and I'll help with directions.

By the way, coming back with machinery, the only "Customs" charge is
for PST and GST on the equivalent Canadian funds. No duty, and no
hassle.

Take care.

Brian Lawson,
Bothwell, Ontario.

ps...if you do go, have me paged and I'll buy you a coffee.

XXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXXX


distracted wrote:
I am looking for a good used 36"ish lathe & small mill suitable for a
basement shop & preferably with some tooling & at a reasonable price.

Does anyone know where I might look in Toronto, Ontario or within a
few hours drive?

I bought a fairly good southbend 9a lathe from eBay and paid a
*reasonable* price - Unfortunately with work and more importantly
space, I have hardly used her. Great American Iron. Lots of extras

Would be willing to let it go for the same as I paid or might part it
out on eBay
I'm in Toronto

email works for contact

Tom


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