On 7 Apr 2005 12:44:37 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , John Kunkel says...

If you're gonna compare administrations, don't forget the list of convicted
felons in Ronnie Raygun's.

I forget if Ed Meese was indicted or not. But it's
great to have the attorney general on the short list
of 'bad guys.'

Jim

Indicted is not convicted.

And as long as the money was good, Clinton would pardon you on his way
out of office.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

In article , Gunner says...

I forget if Ed Meese was indicted or not.

Indicted is not convicted.

No, he was never convicted. I *think* he left one step
ahead of the indictment.

But if he had been indicted, the by his own words he
was guilty.

Jim


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In article , Gunner says...

Thanks to your buddy Clinton who gave them food, fuel and nuclear
reactors....

Well at least he didn't give them WMDs. Unlike iraq....

Jim


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On 7 Apr 2005 19:18:59 -0700, "
wrote:

Not the Louisiana tradition. They re-elected Huey L. because after thu
first term he had all the roads paved where he lived. The rest of the
state thought that if he was re-elected , some roads would be paved
elsewhere.


Dan


Huey...wasnt he the guy that said he would always get elected unless
he was found in bed with a dead girl or a live boy?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 7 Apr 2005 20:29:09 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

Thanks to your buddy Clinton who gave them food, fuel and nuclear
reactors....

Well at least he didn't give them WMDs. Unlike iraq....

Jim

Check your history. The US didnt either.

Are you normally this dumb or are you playing?
G

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 7 Apr 2005 20:27:44 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

I forget if Ed Meese was indicted or not.

Indicted is not convicted.

No, he was never convicted. I *think* he left one step
ahead of the indictment.

But if he had been indicted, the by his own words he
was guilty.

Jim

You are not a criminal, until convicted. Only a suspect.

Like Hillary and Bubba. But then, he did get impeached and disbared
(by his own state bar)

She on the other hand...is still a suspect.
Unfortuately

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 7 Apr 2005 20:29:09 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
In article , Gunner says...

Thanks to your buddy Clinton who gave them food, fuel and nuclear
reactors....

Well at least he didn't give them WMDs. Unlike iraq....

Last I checked, a nuclear reactor produces things which are useful in
making WMD?

In article , Gunner says...

You are not a criminal, until convicted. Only a suspect.

Not according to Mr. Meese. Before he came under scrutiny,
he made the famous statement 'we only indict guilty people.'

The man himself said it. It has to be so.

Jim


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On 8 Apr 2005 09:07:26 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

You are not a criminal, until convicted. Only a suspect.

Not according to Mr. Meese. Before he came under scrutiny,
he made the famous statement 'we only indict guilty people.'

The man himself said it. It has to be so.

Jim

"I did not, have sexual relations, with that woman, Monica
Lewinsky....."

chuckle

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 8 Apr 2005 15:12:31 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On 7 Apr 2005 20:29:09 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
In article , Gunner says...

Thanks to your buddy Clinton who gave them food, fuel and nuclear
reactors....

Well at least he didn't give them WMDs. Unlike iraq....

Last I checked, a nuclear reactor produces things which are useful in
making WMD?

Yes. WMD is defined as Nuclear, Biological and Chemical weapons.

NBC for short.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

In article , Gunner says...

Yes. WMD is defined as Nuclear, Biological and Chemical weapons.

NBC for short.

Which of those did we supply to Iraq...?

Jim


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Last I checked, a nuclear reactor produces things which are useful in
making WMD?

Yes. WMD is defined as Nuclear, Biological and Chemical weapons.

NBC for short.

It's still CBR to me. :-)
Anyway on the nuclear reactor bit, so are lathes,mills, etc. useful
in making WMD. So are we to embargo those also??
...lew...

On 8 Apr 2005 15:12:31 GMT, Dave Hinz wrote:

On 7 Apr 2005 20:29:09 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
In article , Gunner says...

Thanks to your buddy Clinton who gave them food, fuel and nuclear
reactors....

Well at least he didn't give them WMDs. Unlike iraq....

Last I checked, a nuclear reactor produces things which are useful in
making WMD?

Read what you said. A plastics plant may also produce things that can
be used in the making of WMD

Gunner


Leftwingers are like pond scum. They are green, slimy, show up where
they are not wanted, and interfere with the fishing.

Strider

On 8 Apr 2005 10:20:42 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

Yes. WMD is defined as Nuclear, Biological and Chemical weapons.

NBC for short.

Which of those did we supply to Iraq...?

Jim


None.

Gunner


Leftwingers are like pond scum. They are green, slimy, show up where
they are not wanted, and interfere with the fishing.

Strider

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 04:46:12 GMT, Gunner
wrote:

On Sun, 10 Apr 2005 12:16:45 +0800, fizzbottom
wrote:

Gunner wrote:

There was a lot of that in the Clinton Administration. Webster Hubble,
Susan McDougle etc etc..a very long list of folks falling on their
swords for Bubba and Co.
Strange isnt it? One would wonder just what threats could have been
made against them to cause them to prefer jail.

Then again..given the numbers of Clinton dead....perhaps we know.


Would you just go **** yourself, you nitwit ? You never heard of
Watergate or Iran-Contra or anything else but "Clinton-this and
Clinton-that."

From my perspective, ****wits like yourself have only heard of
Watergate or Iran-contra and have given every Demonrat a pass.

It's just his never-ending Monica envy, folks.
Someone go get him a purse.

And something to clean it up with later.
--
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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show Gunner
wrote back on Fri, 08 Apr 2005 02:15:51 GMT
in rec.crafts.metalworking :

You are aware of course, that NC has 100,000 arty pieces aimed

North Carolina has that much Artillery?

:-)

directly at Seoul. A single time on target barrage of one round each
will kill an estimated 2 million people. Then they dig out the nukes.
And its run by a total nutcase.

One with whom Jimmy the Carter no doubt feels he can make another deal.

tschus
pyotr


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In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

ne with whom Jimmy the Carter no doubt feels he can make another deal.

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Jim


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I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show jim rozen
wrote back on 12 Apr 2005 05:42:54 -0700 in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

ne with whom Jimmy the Carter no doubt feels he can make another deal.

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Why not? The Kims felt no need to abide by it either.


tschus
pyotr

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pyotr filipivich.
as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Why not? The Kims felt no need to abide by it either.

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

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"jim rozen" wrote in message
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In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Why not? The Kims felt no need to abide by it either.

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Jim



Jim,
What part baffles you? We attacked a small country that couldn't even
threaten their neighbors with WMD's instead of a small country that can,
does and will if provoked.

--
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Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
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On 12 Apr 2005 10:40:40 -0700, jim rozen wrote:
In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Why not? The Kims felt no need to abide by it either.

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Practice?

In article , J. R. Carroll says...

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

What part baffles you? We attacked a small country that couldn't even
threaten their neighbors with WMD's instead of a small country that can,
does and will if provoked.

I think this is the baffling part. The entire "where are they"
hunt going on in the desert, when the koreans are all "HEY,
we've got 'em right HERE folks. Get your WMDs, fire sale,
right in our backyard, we have photos, lookie here, we sure
have 'em!!"

Jim


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On 12 Apr 2005 10:40:40 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Why not? The Kims felt no need to abide by it either.

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Jim

How do you perform "shock and awe" on someone whos finger is on the
Nuke trigger?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:33 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:


I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Jim



Jim,
What part baffles you? We attacked a small country that couldn't even
threaten their neighbors with WMD's instead of a small country that can,
does and will if provoked.

--
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"Without question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal,
murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a
particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to
miscalculation ... And now he is miscalculating America's response to
his continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass
destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass
destruction is real..."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003 | Source

"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the
authority to use force -- if necessary -- to disarm Saddam Hussein
because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction
in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
- Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002 | Source

"One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to
develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them.
That is our bottom line."
- President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998 | Source

"If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is
clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction program."
- President Bill Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998 | Source

"We must stop Saddam from ever again jeopardizing the stability and
security of his neighbors with weapons of mass destruction."
- Madeline Albright, Feb 1, 1998 | Source

"He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten
times since 1983."
- Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998 |
Source

"[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with
the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including,
if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to
respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its
weapons of mass destruction programs."
Letter to President Clinton.
- (D) Senators Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, others, Oct. 9,
1998 | Source

"Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass
destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region
and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
- Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998 | Source

"Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass
destruction and palaces for his cronies."
- Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999 |
Source

"We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a
threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the
mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass
destruction and th! e means of delivering them."
- Sen. Carl Levin (D, MI), Sept. 19, 2002 | Source

"We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical
weapons throughout his country."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible
to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as
Saddam is in power."
- Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002 | Source

"We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seeking and
developing weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002 | Source

"The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October of 1998. We are
confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and
biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course
to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities.
Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
- Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002 | Source

"There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working
aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear
weapons within the next five years ... We also should remember we have
always underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of
weapons of mass destruction."
- Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports
show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and
biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his
nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to
terrorists, including al Qaeda members ... It is clear, however, that
if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his
capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying
to develop nuclear weapons."
- Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002 | Source

"We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that
Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing
capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass
destruction."
- Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL), Dec. 8, 2002 | Source


Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 12 Apr 2005 13:36:20 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , J. R. Carroll says...

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

What part baffles you? We attacked a small country that couldn't even
threaten their neighbors with WMD's instead of a small country that can,
does and will if provoked.

I think this is the baffling part. The entire "where are they"
hunt going on in the desert, when the koreans are all "HEY,
we've got 'em right HERE folks. Get your WMDs, fire sale,
right in our backyard, we have photos, lookie here, we sure
have 'em!!"

Jim

Which hill do you want to die on?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

Other forces are working on North Korea - some results are coming out now - e.g.
directive to grow more food ....

Iran is a captive country much like others - but it would help resolve issues in
the region and settle a lot of issues that have been boiling for 50 years or so.

WMD's are in both countries. They were in IRAQ - just none located or found lately.
Thousands of locals have died in IRAQ and IRAN from 'tests' IRAQ did.

IRAN has had gas and biological for some time. Europe (France and Germany) helped build
the latest weapon grade reactors.

No telling what is really going on in Korea. Other than starvation.

Martin
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On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:33 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:


I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Jim





None of the sources quoted are from Iraq's neighbors and are therefore both
uninformed and irrelevant.
Quoted rhetorical nonsense aside, had say, Israel really felt imminent
danger from old Sadman they would have done for him without blinking - and
you know it. They did the last time.

--
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Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
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You're going to gut these guys all mixed up! They've been gleefully proving
a negative all this time. You should be more careful. We don't know where
they are, so they don't exist. Isn't that better?

George Willer

"Martin H. Eastburn" wrote in message

WMD's are in both countries. They were in IRAQ - just none located or
found lately.
Thousands of locals have died in IRAQ and IRAN from 'tests' IRAQ did.

Martin

I missed the staff meeting but the minutes show jim rozen
wrote back on 12 Apr 2005 10:40:40 -0700 in
rec.crafts.metalworking :
In article , pyotr filipivich
says...

And GWB feels he can completely ignore.

Why not? The Kims felt no need to abide by it either.

I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Has the concept of "low hanging fruit" ever been explained to you?

Not to mention there are certain objective realities which are
applicable to a war in on the Korean peninsula. It has to do with terrain,
a DMZ, and a heavily dug in OpFor.

Jim

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as an explaination for the decline in the US's tech edge, James
Niccol wrote "It used to be that the USA was pretty good at
producing stuff teenaged boys could lose a finger or two playing with."

On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:41:11 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:33 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:


I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Jim





None of the sources quoted are from Iraq's neighbors and are therefore both
uninformed and irrelevant.
Quoted rhetorical nonsense aside, had say, Israel really felt imminent
danger from old Sadman they would have done for him without blinking - and
you know it. They did the last time.


"In an article for Parade magazine, published on Aug 1 2004, Retired
General Tommy Franks discussed the possibility of WMD’s in Iraq, He
mentioned that he had spoken to both the President of Egypt (Hosni
Mubarak) and the King of Jordan (King Abdullah), about two months
before the invasion of Iraq. Both told him that Saddam Hussein had
weapons of mass destruction. In fact, King Abdullah informed him that
“Saddam has WMD - biologicals, actually - and he will use them on your
troops. ” Within the hour, he had relayed that information to
Washington"

"Jordan's King Abdullah revealed on Saturday that vehicles reportedly
containing chemical weapons and poison gas that were part of a deadly
al Qaeda bomb plot came from Syria, the country named by U.S. weapons
inspector David Kay last year as a likely repository for Iraq's
weapons of mass destruction."

What were you babbling about again?

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 03:41:11 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:


"Gunner" wrote in message
.. .
On Tue, 12 Apr 2005 18:10:33 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:


I guess I'm still somewhat baffled by the US eagerness to
jump in to Iraq when N. Korea seems like such a bigger threat
over the long haul.

Jim





None of the sources quoted are from Iraq's neighbors and are therefore
both
uninformed and irrelevant.
Quoted rhetorical nonsense aside, had say, Israel really felt imminent
danger from old Sadman they would have done for him without blinking -
and
you know it. They did the last time.


"In an article for Parade magazine, published on Aug 1 2004, Retired


Right,
An Al Qaeda bomb plot from Syria, not Iraq, and biological weapons that
hadn't existed in ten years used in Iraq to repel an attacking force. You
are aware that Iraq and the US have no common border aren't you? Like I
said, no one in the middle east was all that concerned about their country
being taken under these sorts of attacks or they would have done something.
They didn't. "Mission Accomplished".


--
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Machining Solution Software, Inc.
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In article , Gunner says...

"In an article for Parade magazine,

Bwaaa haa haaa ha.

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

Jim


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In article , J. R. Carroll
says...

Quoted rhetorical nonsense aside, had say, Israel really felt imminent
danger from old Sadman they would have done for him without blinking - and
you know it. They did the last time.

Not a bad litmus test.

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In article , J. R. Carroll
says...

... You
are aware that Iraq and the US have no common border aren't you?

Sure they do. Right along the Halliburton Range.

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On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:05:38 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:



"In an article for Parade magazine, published on Aug 1 2004, Retired


Right,
An Al Qaeda bomb plot from Syria, not Iraq, and biological weapons that
hadn't existed in ten years used in Iraq to repel an attacking force. You
are aware that Iraq and the US have no common border aren't you? Like I
said, no one in the middle east was all that concerned about their country
being taken under these sorts of attacks or they would have done something.
They didn't. "Mission Accomplished".

Is there some reason you snipped out this portion, that you asked for?

"In an article for Parade magazine, published on Aug 1 2004, Retired
General Tommy Franks discussed the possibility of WMD’s in Iraq, He
mentioned that he had spoken to both the President of Egypt (Hosni
Mubarak) and the King of Jordan (King Abdullah), about two months
before the invasion of Iraq. Both told him that Saddam Hussein had
weapons of mass destruction. In fact, King Abdullah informed him that
“Saddam has WMD - biologicals, actually - and he will use them on your
troops. ” Within the hour, he had relayed that information to
Washington"

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

On 13 Apr 2005 05:51:53 -0700, jim rozen
wrote:

In article , Gunner says...

"In an article for Parade magazine,

Bwaaa haa haaa ha.

Sorry. Couldn't help myself.

Jim

You calling Tommy Franks a liar?

Thats mighty interesting, Jody.

Gunner

Rule #35
"That which does not kill you,
has made a huge tactical error"

"Gunner" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 13 Apr 2005 09:05:38 GMT, "J. R. Carroll"
wrote:



"In an article for Parade magazine, published on Aug 1 2004, Retired


Right,
An Al Qaeda bomb plot from Syria, not Iraq, and biological weapons that
hadn't existed in ten years used in Iraq to repel an attacking force. You
are aware that Iraq and the US have no common border aren't you? Like I
said, no one in the middle east was all that concerned about their
country
being taken under these sorts of attacks or they would have done
something.
They didn't. "Mission Accomplished".

Is there some reason you snipped out this portion, that you asked for?

"In an article for Parade magazine, published on Aug 1 2004, Retired
General Tommy Franks discussed the possibility of WMD's in Iraq, He
mentioned that he had spoken to both the President of Egypt (Hosni
Mubarak) and the King of Jordan (King Abdullah), about two months
before the invasion of Iraq. Both told him that Saddam Hussein had
weapons of mass destruction. In fact, King Abdullah informed him that
"Saddam has WMD - biologicals, actually - and he will use them on your
troops. " Within the hour, he had relayed that information to
Washington"


No, not really, but since you mention it, what I asked for was any public
statement from the locals not Frank's statement to a tabloid.
I asked for evidence and you provided hearsay. Objection sustained.
You haven't provided anything. The fact remains that Colin Powell had
testified ( 2000 ) at length to the effect that the Iraq sanctions regime
had essentially worked. Killed off a bunch of natives by starving them to
death, but the constant air interdiction and interruption of shipping in and
out of SadamLand had completely undermined Iraq's ability to project any
military force beyond its own borders.
Pakistan would have been a more appropriate target if reducing the nuts with
nukes club was the goal and we were already right next door. Pakistan, in
fact, DID provide nuclear materials to our enemies.

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Machining Solution Software, Inc.
Los Angeles San Francisco
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In article , Gunner says...

"In an article for Parade magazine,

Bwaaa haa haaa ha.

You calling Tommy Franks a liar?

No, I'm chortling at anyone who'd list parade magazine
as a source! What's next, Boys Life??

Where's Ed when ya need him!

Jim


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On Wed, 06 Apr 2005 16:54:27 -0400, Cliff wrote:

Gunner's heros ........

[
"The time will come for the men responsible for this to answer for
their behavior," said House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas, who
referred to a "judiciary run amok."
]

Seems like the Republicans & wingers despise the
"rule of law", the US court system & the Supreme Court ......


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Cliff