I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the ****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him?

move his stuff out of the in-law suite and get the door lock(s) re-keyed (or
changed)

call a law enforcement official when he shows up so he understands he is no
longer welcome there

He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights.

based on what you've said he has paid no rent (monetary or otherwise), and,
if so, he has not fulfilled his legal responsibilities so what would any
renter's rights be based on?

Can anybody
give me some advice?

consult with an attorney on the legal issues (this one is for home repairs)

find an appropriate newsgroup for this discussion and/or find someone
offline to help you through it


The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

Start simple turn the breaker off that feeds his Room. I doubt he will stay
to long with no electricity.

--
Brian Dye
-------------------------------------

http://tech-home.com


"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

Be very careful how you handle this. Tenant's rights is a very tough hurdle
for the landlord to overcome. Document everything. **Consult with a lawyer
trained in landlord/tenant disputes.** You will probably end up evicting the
tenant. Once they get in and refuse to pay it could take upwards of six
months to get them out. Make sure you do everything by the book. Follow all
codes. Do not enter their apartment without their approval. If you make one
mistake it will be a strike against you when you eventually take this sob to
court.

Remember it is your house, but its there apartment. And the law tends to
lean in the tenants favor, especially if the landlord doesn't follow the
book. Did I say consult with a lawyer trained in these matters?

Did you have a signed lease agreement with the tenant? Check with your local
government - local, state, whatever to find out what you *must* do.

Once you get this sob out (or before would probably be better) you can rent
the movie Pacific Heights. Good flick about a dream gone sour.

"Clark Griswold" wrote in message
...
"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding
with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me
I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he
should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my
husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can
anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want
him
to leave.

Be very careful how you handle this. Tenant's rights is a very tough
hurdle
for the landlord to overcome. Document everything. **Consult with a lawyer
trained in landlord/tenant disputes.** You will probably end up evicting
the
tenant. Once they get in and refuse to pay it could take upwards of six
months to get them out. Make sure you do everything by the book. Follow
all
codes. Do not enter their apartment without their approval. If you make
one
mistake it will be a strike against you when you eventually take this sob
to
court.

Remember it is your house, but its there apartment. And the law tends to
lean in the tenants favor, especially if the landlord doesn't follow the
book. Did I say consult with a lawyer trained in these matters?

Did you have a signed lease agreement with the tenant? Check with your
local
government - local, state, whatever to find out what you *must* do.

Once you get this sob out (or before would probably be better) you can
rent
the movie Pacific Heights. Good flick about a dream gone sour.



It's not an apartment. It's an in-law suite.
There is nothing on paper except the note he wrote us whick I never got.
He has quit talking to my daughter.
His mother doesnt want him so bad that I'm sure she's behind his ranting.
Most of the stuff in there is mine. He had to bring his bed because my son
took his.

"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.


Just read the other posters comments.

Do not turn off the breaker, or anything else. Don't change the locks, or
move their stuff out. Be very cordial with this sob. But, your goal is to
get them out. You will succeed, but don't screw it up by doing anything to
make it uncomfortable for this tenant. I don't want to scare you, but if
you do the wrong thing you could lose your house. It will cost you some
money, but its a lesson that must be paid for. Did I say consult a lawyer?

Beat him up, tie him up, take out in to the hills, make him dig a grave,
make him kneel in it and then pull an empty chamber on him.

Then get him to strip and drive off with his clothes, this a..hole needs to
learn a hard lesson in life and soon !!!.

What kind of pussy is your husband to have let things go so far !!!.

--
Marcus

I like people, they are bio-degradable !.

"Mark" wrote in message
...
On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 10:02:21 -0500, "Clark Griswold" wrote:

Be very careful how you handle this. Tenant's rights is a very tough
hurdle
for the landlord to overcome. Document everything. **Consult with a
lawyer
trained in landlord/tenant disputes.** You will probably end up evicting
the
tenant.

Unless there are monetary trail or a lease/rental agreement, he is not a
tenant. He's a squatter.

I'd like to know if there is a paper trail (bank records or contract)
proving
some type of rental arrangement.

There is not a paper trail. He gave $500 towards utilities and tried to
create a paper trail by giving my husband a money order made out to cash but
I got one of his (former) friends to cash it. I'm sure his mother told him
to pay with a money order. He's 22 years old, if that matters. When he
camehere it wasso he could be closer to a bus route so he could get a job.
He ended up gettingajob at WAWA. Not the kind of job he told us he was
after. He had said he was after ajob at the newspaper. I arranged an
interview for him and he never showed up.

"Marcus" wrote in message
...
Beat him up, tie him up, take out in to the hills, make him dig a grave,
make him kneel in it and then pull an empty chamber on him.

I do have a bag of lime in the garage......

You people have been watching that Michael Keaton movie too many times.
Go buy two nice Louisville sluggers, call your son up, give your
husband and your son each a bat, and send em on up.

He will leave.

I think you should find out when and where your local TA (Trolls
Anonymous) group meets.

Perce


On 01/26/05 10:16 am Kathy tossed the following ingredients into the
ever-growing pot of cybersoup:

Beat him up, tie him up, take out in to the hills, make him dig a grave,
make him kneel in it and then pull an empty chamber on him.

I do have a bag of lime in the garage......

I know it's tempting to beat the living **** out of the little freeloader,
but if you think you're mad now, wait until a judge orders you to recompense
him for his belongings, "pain and suffering," etc.

You can do no wrong by filing a formal eviction. It doesn't cost much and
covers your ass. ASSUME he has tenant's rights, because even though laws
vary from state to state, he does have rights - rights you gave him. The
fact that he doesn't pay and broke the verbal contract is of no consequence
at this juncture; you still have to do a legal eviction, just as you would
if you had a written contract.

Contracts don't mean a thing once you've provided a space for another human
to reside. As such, it has to be inhabitable. So don't cut off his
electricity or water, much as you want to (and in my opinion, have a right
to!). Don't dispose of ANY of his belongings. Go the formal route. In the
long run it will benefit YOU. Next time don't let anyone live in your
property without a legally binding contract, background check, and
deposit/first month's rent up front. I speak from experience; I was a
landlord for 15 years.

I know it's tempting to beat the living **** out of the little freeloader,
but if you think you're mad now, wait until a judge orders you to recompense
him for his belongings, "pain and suffering," etc.

You can do no wrong by filing a formal eviction. It doesn't cost much and
covers your ass. ASSUME he has tenant's rights, because even though laws
vary from state to state, he does have rights - rights you gave him. The
fact that he doesn't pay and broke the verbal contract is of no consequence
at this juncture; you still have to do a legal eviction, just as you would
if you had a written contract.

Contracts don't mean a thing once you've provided a space for another human
to reside. As such, it has to be inhabitable. So don't cut off his
electricity or water, much as you want to (and in my opinion, have a right
to!). Don't dispose of ANY of his belongings. Go the formal route. In the
long run it will benefit YOU. Next time don't let anyone live in your
property without a legally binding contract, background check, and
deposit/first month's rent up front. I speak from experience; I was a
landlord for 15 years.

"Dee" wrote in message
...
I know it's tempting to beat the living **** out of the little freeloader,

I speak from experience; I was a
landlord for 15 years.






I'm NOT a landlord!!!!!!

you can call your local police department and usually get some pretty good
free advise.
Neighbor evicted a non paying tenant by offering her a months rent in cash
if she'd leave within a few days. She took the cash and instantly left & of
course he instantly rented it to another non payer.

"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

Contact an atty even better the police will know the rights he has in
your area and it is free advise. Normaly give him a 5 day notice you
purchase these at office supply stores, then file in small claim. Dont
cut his heat, electric, locks, or anything, he has legal rights and it
will all come out eventualy against you, dont lie on his payments or
work, he may seek revenge. You may not even have legal rights to enter
his apt now since it was not in writing. I rented a house the tennent
was 3 months past due, they called the police when I came out, the
police made me leave my house, because I did not have on the lease I
could enter anytime. Find out your and his rights before anger gets you
in trouble, follow the law on this, you are going to loose either way
but you will learn. Do something out of the law and you will regret it
in court. A 5 day notice usualy wakes them up fast. If he has partys
call the cops because you suspect drugs or underage drinking this jerk
will ride you , let him know it is time to go, nicely, legaly. in
writing.

On Wed, 26 Jan 2005 11:44:09 -0500, Kathy wrote:

"Dee" wrote in message
...
I know it's tempting to beat the living **** out of the little freeloader,

I speak from experience; I was a
landlord for 15 years.






I'm NOT a landlord!!!!!!


You are now, and have been for the past few months.

- Rich

Wake up Kathy you are a lanlord now and must behave as one or you will
never win but may loose big. He has rights like it or not, you gave him
those rights.

I am reminded of the time that the US Army was trying to get Noriega out of
the Vatican Embassy - They played very loud rock music day and night until
he couldn't take it anymore and surrendered. If there is something that you
can do that causes noise, but can be claimed to be normal household
activities, he may get fed up and leave.


"Matt" wrote in message
ups.com...
You people have been watching that Michael Keaton movie too many times.
Go buy two nice Louisville sluggers, call your son up, give your
husband and your son each a bat, and send em on up.

He will leave.

Most real estate contracts have to be in writing so I doubt he has any
rights. Furthermore a contract to be binding requires consideration which
means both sides need to give something of value. He hasn't so I doubt he
could argue a verbal contract even if verbal rental agreements are
enforcable in your state which is doubtful. Throw him out.



"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

Kathy,
This newsgroup is a dangerous place to try to get advise, since just
about all but one poster is completely wrong. If you follow the kick
him out, move his stuff, call the cops advise, he will certainly have a
legal claim against you, and he will win, despite whatever the posters
here say. I don't know your state, but he likely has what has been
referred to here as "renters rights" whether he has paid you any rent
or signed a contract, or not.
You have to go through an unlawful detainer (eviction) action to
legally get him out. Don't worry, it's inexpensive. Call your local bar
association and they can put you in touch of a landlord assistance
group or someone who can do it pro bono if you can't afford an
attorney. To handle it any other way is not only wrong, but illegal.
Also do a search on misc.legal newsgroup for "unlawful detainer." You
will get more info than you need.

I am a lawyer, but not your lawyer and this post is not intended as
legal advise and does not create an attorney/client relationship.
Good luck,
David


Kathy wrote:
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there.
He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding
with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me
I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What
the ****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he
should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my
husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can
anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm
afraid he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having
under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when
he was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just
want him
to leave.

The best that could happen is if he got busted for drugs or underage
drinking, he would be gone immediatly. Get legal advise, call your
police dept and an atty.

In article .com, "Dave" wrote:

This newsgroup is a dangerous place to try to get advise,
[snip]
him out, move his stuff, call the cops advise
[snip]

I am a lawyer, but not your lawyer and this post is not intended as
legal advise
[snip]

Just one question, Dave: How'd you manage to graduate from law school without
learning the difference between "advise" and "advice" somewhere along the way?

Doug Miller wrote:
In article .com, "Dave" wrote:


This newsgroup is a dangerous place to try to get advise,

[snip]

him out, move his stuff, call the cops advise

[snip]

I am a lawyer, but not your lawyer and this post is not intended as
legal advise

[snip]

Just one question, Dave: How'd you manage to graduate from law school without
learning the difference between "advise" and "advice" somewhere along the way?

Oh great. No we have spelling police. I have news for you pally.
People who have dysgraphia and related ailments cannot spell properly to
save their lives. That does not make them unintelligent or incompetent
in their own profession; unless of course they are a grade school
spelling teacher.
--
Tom H

Dave wrote:
Kathy,
This newsgroup is a dangerous place to try to get advise, since just
about all but one poster is completely wrong. If you follow the kick
him out, move his stuff, call the cops advise, he will certainly have a
legal claim against you, and he will win, despite whatever the posters
here say. I don't know your state, but he likely has what has been
referred to here as "renters rights" whether he has paid you any rent
or signed a contract, or not.

I am a lawyer, but not your lawyer and this post is not intended as
legal advise and does not create an attorney/client relationship.
Good luck,
David


If you were really a lawyer, you would know how to spell "advice".

"Doug Miller" wrote in message
news
In article .com, "Dave"
wrote:

This newsgroup is a dangerous place to try to get advise,
[snip]
him out, move his stuff, call the cops advise
[snip]

I am a lawyer, but not your lawyer and this post is not intended as
legal advise
[snip]

Just one question, Dave: How'd you manage to graduate from law school
without
learning the difference between "advise" and "advice" somewhere along the
way?

same way you became a grammar nazi...

randy

Art,

A lease is not a "real estate" contract. Leases do not have to be in
writing in many locales. Often month to month leases are verbal. It sounds
as if this fellow moved in and paid for his room by running errands
initially. That he is now a deadbeat does not mean that he is not a tenant.
The OP should assume that he is a tenant and do whatever the local customs
require to evict him.
On a practical note it sounds as if the tenant does not have any money
(and so is not worth suing) and the landlord does not have a security
deposit so it would be best to try to ease him out.

Dave M.

**** the kid. do it twice. then next week tell him you're pregnant....

ask a stupid question....

randy

"Kathy" wrote in message
...
I have an in-law suite above my garage. My son used to live in there. He
moved out and bought a house and a friend of my daughters was fueding with
his mom, (his dad already put him out)so I let him move into the room
provided he did "son things" and paid his own way as far as utilities
went.
Well he won't do the son things, has too many people over and told me I'm
crazy when I showed him the utility bill and he wont move out. What the
****
can I do short of killing him? He's been there since November so he should
have saved up enough money to get a place by now. He hides from my husband
and wrote us a letter saying he thinks he has renters rights. Can anybody
give me some advice? The kid has been lying to us all along. I'm afraid
he's
going to trash the place or worse yet, get raided for having under-aged
friends in there drinking and smoking pot. He was an alright kid when he
was
sleeping on my couch. Now he thinks he's king of the hill. I just want him
to leave.

jeez. not one but two.
"Mortimer Schnerd, RN" wrote in message
. com...
Dave wrote:
Kathy,
This newsgroup is a dangerous place to try to get advise, since just
about all but one poster is completely wrong. If you follow the kick
him out, move his stuff, call the cops advise, he will certainly have a
legal claim against you, and he will win, despite whatever the posters
here say. I don't know your state, but he likely has what has been
referred to here as "renters rights" whether he has paid you any rent
or signed a contract, or not.

I am a lawyer, but not your lawyer and this post is not intended as
legal advise and does not create an attorney/client relationship.
Good luck,
David


If you were really a lawyer, you would know how to spell "advice".

and if you really had a life, you wouldnt be the SECOND grammar nazi to
point this out.

randy

Dee wrote:
I know it's tempting to beat the living **** out of the little freeloader,
but if you think you're mad now, wait until a judge orders you to recompense
him for his belongings, "pain and suffering," etc.

You can do no wrong by filing a formal eviction. It doesn't cost much and
covers your ass. ASSUME he has tenant's rights, because even though laws
vary from state to state, he does have rights - rights you gave him. The
fact that he doesn't pay and broke the verbal contract is of no consequence
at this juncture; you still have to do a legal eviction, just as you would
if you had a written contract.

Contracts don't mean a thing once you've provided a space for another human
to reside. As such, it has to be inhabitable. So don't cut off his
electricity or water, much as you want to (and in my opinion, have a right
to!). Don't dispose of ANY of his belongings. Go the formal route. In the
long run it will benefit YOU. Next time don't let anyone live in your
property without a legally binding contract, background check, and
deposit/first month's rent up front. I speak from experience; I was a
landlord for 15 years.






This thread is scarey!

We usually put up visiting professionals we've never met about once a
year or so when the Rotary Club I belong to participates in a "Group
Study Exchange" with a Rotary club in a different part of the world. We
house them in our now unused nanny suite for a week. All of those Rotary
visitors have been great guests, and probably have been pretty
thoroughly screened by the club sponsoring them, so chances of one of
them turning into a "Kathy's nightmare" are slim, but it's something to
think about....

If contracts don't mean anything, how do these things work in hotels?
Can a deadbeat with more debts than assets pay for one night in a hotel
room and then refuse to vacate it until the hotel goes through all those
proper legal steps?

Or are hotels covered by a different section of the law?

My curious mind wants to know.....

Jeff

--
Jeffry Wisnia

(W1BSV + Brass Rat '57 EE)

"As long as there are final exams, there will be prayer in public
schools"

:::sigh::: My point was, I speak from experience. I was trying to help you.









I'm NOT a landlord!!!!!!

If contracts don't mean anything, how do these things work in hotels?


Hotel/motel arrangements are, by nature, short-term. With residency, oral
contracts can carry a lot of weight in a court of law. Both parties entered
into an agreement. A lot of it is his word against her word, but there are
facts that are indisputable: She took money from him and gave him a key to
the residence. And that is a contract.
Don't get me wrong, it sucks that he's doing this. Which is why I wouldn't
want to see her get burned any more than she already is.

"Jeff Wisnia" wrote in message
If contracts don't mean anything, how do these things work in hotels? Can
a deadbeat with more debts than assets pay for one night in a hotel room
and then refuse to vacate it until the hotel goes through all those proper
legal steps?

Or are hotels covered by a different section of the law?

My curious mind wants to know.....

I don't know all the legal ramifications, but I've read stores in the paper.
People would be put up in a room by either state welfare organization or
charitable organizations for a specific time. Then they would refuse to move
out after that time. It then took a court order to get them evicted. I
don't know if the typical overnight guest would have those "protections" or
not I'm sure much of this varies by state also.

Hmmmm.... is it 'pally' or 'pallie'?

"Matt" wrote in message
ups.com...
You people have been watching that Michael Keaton movie too many times.
Go buy two nice Louisville sluggers, call your son up, give your
husband and your son each a bat, and send em on up.

He will leave.


that would be assualt, and if the bats are used to hit him, battery,
nevertheless, at a minimum assault, good thing your plonked

You really are as dumb as you look, aren't you?

"Kathy" wrote in message
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There is not a paper trail. He gave $500 towards utilities

that changes things, you didn't mention that in your original post, you need
legal counsel


and tried to
create a paper trail by giving my husband a money order made out to cash
but
I got one of his (former) friends to cash it. I'm sure his mother told him
to pay with a money order. He's 22 years old, if that matters. When he
camehere it wasso he could be closer to a bus route so he could get a job.
He ended up gettingajob at WAWA. Not the kind of job he told us he was
after. He had said he was after ajob at the newspaper. I arranged an
interview for him and he never showed up.

Matt wrote:
Hmmmm.... is it 'pally' or 'pallie'?

There shall be only 3 periods in an ellipsus.

Oh ****, you're right. Damn.

xrongor wrote:
**** the kid. do it twice. then next week tell him you're

gross, dude. The chick's got kids!