I bought 5 60 watt flourescent lights that emit about 11 watts from Ikea. I
purchased the decorative ones.

Inside the circular case you can see 3 "loops". It appears that 2 of them
turn on instantly, and the other one can take up to a minute to turn on.
Therefore, it takes about a minute for the room to completely light. It
occurs on all 5 lights. I bought 3 packages of 2, for a total of 6.

I have other non-decorate flourescent lights in my hosue I got from Home
Depot that are low wattage that light up instantly.

Is this normal? It's bearable, yet annoying. I'd rather not return them
unless I know if I buy another brand it will be better.

I suspect this is the way they were designed. I have a similar problem (60
second warm up time) on some energy saver flourescent floodlights I got at
Home Depot and those take up to a minute to achieve full brightness even
though the non-floodlight energy saver bulbs from Home Depot turn on
instantly at virtually full brightness. It is annoying how the floodlights
start out so darned dim and then require a minute of warm up time before
they're at a full level of brighness. It is even more annoying when the
package says "quick start technology" on it (if this is quick, then I'd hate
to find out what slow is)

Jay

I bought 5 60 watt flourescent lights that emit about 11 watts from Ikea.
I
purchased the decorative ones.

Inside the circular case you can see 3 "loops". It appears that 2 of them
turn on instantly, and the other one can take up to a minute to turn on.
Therefore, it takes about a minute for the room to completely light. It
occurs on all 5 lights. I bought 3 packages of 2, for a total of 6.

I have other non-decorate flourescent lights in my hosue I got from Home
Depot that are low wattage that light up instantly.

Is this normal? It's bearable, yet annoying. I'd rather not return them
unless I know if I buy another brand it will be better.

Me wrote:
I bought 5 60 watt flourescent lights that emit about 11 watts from
Ikea. I purchased the decorative ones.

Inside the circular case you can see 3 "loops". It appears that 2 of
them turn on instantly, and the other one can take up to a minute to
turn on. Therefore, it takes about a minute for the room to
completely light. It occurs on all 5 lights. I bought 3 packages of
2, for a total of 6.
I have other non-decorate flourescent lights in my hosue I got from
Home Depot that are low wattage that light up instantly.

Is this normal? It's bearable, yet annoying. I'd rather not return
them unless I know if I buy another brand it will be better.

That was common on the older design lights. All the new ones I have
start up right away and are at near full brightness.

BTW they are 11 watt lights emitting about the same light as 60W
incandescent lamps. :-)

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

On 1/6/2005 12:55 AM US(ET), jay took fingers to keys, and typed the
following:

I suspect this is the way they were designed. I have a similar problem (60
second warm up time) on some energy saver flourescent floodlights I got at
Home Depot and those take up to a minute to achieve full brightness even
though the non-floodlight energy saver bulbs from Home Depot turn on
instantly at virtually full brightness. It is annoying how the floodlights
start out so darned dim and then require a minute of warm up time before
they're at a full level of brighness. It is even more annoying when the
package says "quick start technology" on it (if this is quick, then I'd hate
to find out what slow is)



Last month, I bought some GE compact fluorescent bulbs from Sam's Club.
It was a packet of 6 - 13 watt, equivalent to 60 watt 'Soft White'
incandescent bulbs. Sam's sold the packet of 6 GEs for the same price as
a packet of 3 Philips comparable bulbs in Lowe's or HD. When switched
on, the bulb takes less than a second to light, and it is then about 80%
of its full brightness. Within 10 seconds, it is at full brightness. I
was so satisfied with them that I bought another pack of 6. I am
replacing all incandescents as they burn out, or for those that I leave
on for extended periods of time. The only lamps that cannot use them are
the type that have the bulb clamps to support the lamp shade.

I bought 5 60 watt flourescent lights that emit about 11 watts from Ikea.
I
purchased the decorative ones.

Inside the circular case you can see 3 "loops". It appears that 2 of them
turn on instantly, and the other one can take up to a minute to turn on.
Therefore, it takes about a minute for the room to completely light. It
occurs on all 5 lights. I bought 3 packages of 2, for a total of 6.

I have other non-decorate flourescent lights in my hosue I got from Home
Depot that are low wattage that light up instantly.

Is this normal? It's bearable, yet annoying. I'd rather not return them
unless I know if I buy another brand it will be better.








--
Bill

All the new ones I have
start up right away and are at near full brightness.

Are any of the new ones you have floodlights? If so...then what brand?

The floodlights I recently bought at Home Depot start out very dim and take
at least one minute to reach full brightness.

Jeff

The only lamps that cannot use them are
the type that have the bulb clamps to support the lamp shade.

I've used the spiral type compact energy saver bulbs with a lamp shade that
has a clamp. I just had to be very careful when installing the shade, and
making sure it doesn't clamp too hard onto the bulb, etc. Whether it works
or not depends on how much tension is in the clamp, and the lamp needs to be
in a location in which it is unlikely to be disturbed. Since flourescent
bulbs contain mercury, I don't recommend anyone try this (just to be on the
safe side). I'm just saying I lucked out and it worked for me.

jay wrote:
All the new ones I have
start up right away and are at near full brightness.

Are any of the new ones you have floodlights? If so...then what
brand?
The floodlights I recently bought at Home Depot start out very dim
and take at least one minute to reach full brightness.

Jeff

Sorry no flood lights. The only flood light I have are on dimmers and I
like them that way so for now the FLs are out.

--
Joseph Meehan

26 + 6 = 1 It's Irish Math

When switched
on, the bulb takes less than a second to light, and it is then about 80%
of its full brightness. Within 10 seconds, it is at full brightness. I
was so satisfied with them that I bought another pack of 6. I am
replacing all incandescents as they burn out, or for those that I leave
on for extended periods of time.

I found a newer type by Sylvania that puts out a whiter light, rated at
3500K versus the usual 3000K. They are identical in appearance to the
13 watt spiral units. Here's a link:

http://ecom.mysylvania.com/sylvaniab...sapj2ee_*=4001

Not sure if that link will survive...

I've seen these compared side by side with identical Sylvania 3000K
CF's, and the difference is dramatic. The standard CF looks yellow and
horrible.

Sadly, the price is dramatic too -- about five bucks a copy. Once that
settles down, these will be the units to have.

jay wrote:
The only lamps that cannot use them are
the type that have the bulb clamps to support the lamp
shade.

I've used the spiral type compact energy saver bulbs with a
lamp
shade that has a clamp. I just had to be very careful when
installing the shade, and making sure it doesn't clamp too
hard onto
the bulb, etc. Whether it works or not depends on how much
tension
is in the clamp, and the lamp needs to be in a location in
which it
is unlikely to be disturbed. Since flourescent bulbs contain
mercury, I don't recommend anyone try this (just to be on the
safe
side). I'm just saying I lucked out and it worked for me.

W H A T ?

On 1/6/2005 6:34 PM US(ET), Robert Barr took fingers to keys, and typed
the following:

When switched

on, the bulb takes less than a second to light, and it is then about
80% of its full brightness. Within 10 seconds, it is at full
brightness. I was so satisfied with them that I bought another pack
of 6. I am replacing all incandescents as they burn out, or for those
that I leave on for extended periods of time.


I found a newer type by Sylvania that puts out a whiter light, rated
at 3500K versus the usual 3000K. They are identical in appearance to
the 13 watt spiral units. Here's a link:

http://ecom.mysylvania.com/sylvaniab...sapj2ee_*=4001


Not sure if that link will survive...

I've seen these compared side by side with identical Sylvania 3000K
CF's, and the difference is dramatic. The standard CF looks yellow
and horrible.

Sadly, the price is dramatic too -- about five bucks a copy. Once
that settles down, these will be the units to have.

The GEs are less than $2 apiece at Sam's. It was $11.something for 6. I
don't see the light output expressed in K terms on the package. It says
Light Output = 825 lumens. Energy used = 13 watt. Life = 8000 hrs.
I placed two desk lamps side by side. One with the CF bulb and the other
with a GE 60 watt incandescent Soft White bulb.
I understand that the 60 watt incandescent is about 840 lumens, but I
don't see a noticeable difference.


--
Bill

W H A T ?

I guess you're not familiar with the type of lamp shade that clamps onto a
bulb, and that it's awkward to clamp such a shade onto a spiral compact
flourescent bulb rather than a standard bulb. Although I did get this type
of shade to clamp onto a spiral compact bulb, and it worked for me, I was
just saying I'm not recommending others do the same thing, since if you wind
up breaking the bulb it would be a bad thing because these bulbs do contain
a small amount of mercury.

Jay

In article ,
says...

I found a newer type by Sylvania that puts out a whiter light, rated at
3500K versus the usual 3000K. They are identical in appearance to the
13 watt spiral units. Here's a link:

It's amazing to me that it took so long to get a selection of color
temperatures in spiral compact fluorescents. A decade ago it was easy
to get temperatures from 2700 up to 4100 in replaceable-bulb CF lamps.

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I bought 5 60 watt flourescent lights that emit about 11 watts from
Ikea. I
purchased the decorative ones.


Inside the circular case you can see 3 "loops". It appears that 2 of
them
turn on instantly, and the other one can take up to a minute to turn
on.
Therefore, it takes about a minute for the room to completely light. It

occurs on all 5 lights. I bought 3 packages of 2, for a total of 6.


I have other non-decorate flourescent lights in my hosue I got from
Home
Depot that are low wattage that light up instantly.


Is this normal? It's bearable, yet annoying. I'd rather not return them

unless I know if I buy another brand it will be better.


Isn't 60 watts a little high for a fluorescent light bulb? I have
several fluorescent bulbs but none with that wattage. I have had a
problem with some being slow but never more than a few seconds. Hope
that helps.

On 1/7/2005 7:11 AM US(ET), took fingers to
keys, and typed the following:

I bought 5 60 watt flourescent lights that emit about 11 watts from


Ikea. I
purchased the decorative ones.


Inside the circular case you can see 3 "loops". It appears that 2 of
them
turn on instantly, and the other one can take up to a minute to turn
on.
Therefore, it takes about a minute for the room to completely light. It

occurs on all 5 lights. I bought 3 packages of 2, for a total of 6.


I have other non-decorate flourescent lights in my hosue I got from
Home
Depot that are low wattage that light up instantly.


Is this normal? It's bearable, yet annoying. I'd rather not return them

unless I know if I buy another brand it will be better.


Isn't 60 watts a little high for a fluorescent light bulb? I have
several fluorescent bulbs but none with that wattage. I have had a
problem with some being slow but never more than a few seconds. Hope
that helps.

They are not 60 watts. They are 11 or 13 watts and are comparable in
light output to the 60 watts of an incandescent bulb.


--
Bill

"jay" wrote in message
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All the new ones I have
start up right away and are at near full brightness.


The ones in my MH are probably 12v, stepped down from 110v. They start dim,
and brighten up. They are particularly dim when they are cold.

STeve