On 3/8/2021 12:31 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Frank "frank writes:
On 3/8/2021 10:24 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...

People should not be allowed to vote until they are paying at least 10%
federal income tax.


Does the eligibility stick with you for life or do you get kicked off
the roles when you retire and pay less taxes?



For the retired people I would treat it similar to the social security
rule. You have to have had so many quarters/years or what ever of
paying in taxes to vote if you did not fill out an income tax form.
While I have been retired for a few years I still get hit for some
income tax because I get a pension and take out some money from the IRA.


You did not have to take 2020 RMD's. I didn't and taxes are zilch.

What drove me from the Democrat party was when I was paying out about
40% if my income in taxes.

How would _you_ pay for the B-21 bombers? Or the federal highway
system? Or the M-1 tanks? Or the border patrol agents? Or the
EPA? OSHA? FDA? FCC?


I do not know your politics but that is a typical leftist response to
just put things necessary like policing and army and not mention all the
unneeded crap. Just take a look at the new nearly two trillion dollar
covid relief bill.

Ralph Mowery writes:
In article ,
says...

Why even bother to reply to such an insane idea? Any financial
qualifications for the vote are a poll tax, which was
abolished by the 24th Amendment. As usual, you republicans ignore
the constitution.....

"The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, abolished the use
of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for
voting in federal elections, ..."

"In 1966, the SC ruled that the 14th amendment mean that the
24th Amendment applies to state elections as well".



That amendment can be changed as a bad idea just as the one that
abolished the alcohol drinks, then later changed.

The requirement I am thinking of is not a special tax to vote, but the
right to vote by paying into the system.

How is that not a poll tax?

Why should someone that does
not pay into the system have a right to say where the money goes ?

Because they also live in the same country that you do, and
have the same right to say how it is run.

Frank "frank writes:
On 3/8/2021 12:31 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Frank "frank writes:
On 3/8/2021 10:24 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...

People should not be allowed to vote until they are paying at least 10%
federal income tax.


Does the eligibility stick with you for life or do you get kicked off
the roles when you retire and pay less taxes?



For the retired people I would treat it similar to the social security
rule. You have to have had so many quarters/years or what ever of
paying in taxes to vote if you did not fill out an income tax form.
While I have been retired for a few years I still get hit for some
income tax because I get a pension and take out some money from the IRA.


You did not have to take 2020 RMD's. I didn't and taxes are zilch.

What drove me from the Democrat party was when I was paying out about
40% if my income in taxes.

How would _you_ pay for the B-21 bombers? Or the federal highway
system? Or the M-1 tanks? Or the border patrol agents? Or the
EPA? OSHA? FDA? FCC?


I do not know your politics but that is a typical leftist response to
just put things necessary like policing and army and not mention all the
unneeded crap. Just take a look at the new nearly two trillion dollar
covid relief bill.

What about it? How does it differ from the relief bill passed by
the republicans before the election?

"Ralph Mowery" wrote in message
...
In article ,
says...

Why even bother to reply to such an insane idea? Any financial
qualifications for the vote are a poll tax, which was
abolished by the 24th Amendment. As usual, you republicans ignore
the constitution.....

"The 24th Amendment, ratified in 1964, abolished the use
of the poll tax (or any other tax) as a pre-condition for
voting in federal elections, ..."

"In 1966, the SC ruled that the 14th amendment mean that the
24th Amendment applies to state elections as well".



That amendment can be changed as a bad idea just as the one that
abolished the alcohol drinks, then later changed.

The requirement I am thinking of is not a special tax to vote, but the
right to vote by paying into the system. Why should someone that does
not pay into the system have a right to say where the money goes ?

Because they arent just saying where the money goes, they are
also saying how things should be done non money wise too like
what should be done about rioters, looters, same sex marriage,
abortion, and even if some clown like Trump should be prez.

On 3/8/2021 12:55 PM, Frank wrote:
On 3/8/2021 12:31 PM, Scott Lurndal wrote:
Frank "frank writes:
On 3/8/2021 10:24 AM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...

People should not be allowed to vote until they are paying at
least 10%
federal income tax.


Does the eligibility stick with you for life or do you get kicked off
the roles when you retire and pay less taxes?



For the retired people I would treat it similar to the social security
rule.Â* You have to have had so many quarters/years or what ever of
paying in taxes to vote if you did not fill out an income tax form.
While I have been retired for a few years I still get hit for some
income tax because I get a pension and take out some money from the
IRA.


You did not have to take 2020 RMD's.Â* I didn't and taxes are zilch.

What drove me from the Democrat party was when I was paying out about
40% if my income in taxes.

How would _you_ pay for the B-21 bombers?Â*Â* Or the federal highway
system?Â* Or the M-1 tanks?Â*Â* Or the border patrol agents?Â* Or the
EPA?Â* OSHA?Â* FDA?Â*Â* FCC?


I do not know your politics but that is a typical leftist response to
just put things necessary like policing and army and not mention all the
unneeded crap.Â* Just take a look at the new nearly two trillion dollar
covid relief bill.


The $1400 is just the balance due of what Trump wanted to give.

The rest is the same pork both side always load up bill with.

Some people really do need help but the earnings limit should be much
less. If a couple has $160k income they don't need or deserve a
stimulus check. Should tap out below $100k.

On Tue, 9 Mar 2021 05:52:46 +1100, cantankerous trolling geezer Rodent
Speed, the auto-contradicting senile sociopath, blabbered, again:


Because they arent just saying where the money goes, they are
also saying how things should be done non money wise too like
what should be done about rioters, looters, same sex marriage,
abortion, and even if some clown like Trump should be prez.

What about the clinically insane and, specifically, sociopaths such as
yourself. I believe useless sociopathic senile cretins like you should be
legally incapacitated!

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"Rod, you have a sick twisted mind. I suggest you stop your mindless
and totally irresponsible talk. Your mouth could get you into a lot of
trouble."
Message-ID:

In article , says...

The $1400 is just the balance due of what Trump wanted to give.

The rest is the same pork both side always load up bill with.

Some people really do need help but the earnings limit should be much
less. If a couple has $160k income they don't need or deserve a
stimulus check. Should tap out below $100k.



While lots of people need the help, there are many that the virus has
not impacted.

LIke the wife and I . Being retired, we get the same ammount of money
no matter what . OUtside of what the IRA does. Many people are working
just the same, My son and son in law have not been affected money wise.
Son is even better off as he is working from home now. There is no rel
reson to give us the money. The ones that need it are the ones that
were working and have not worked in about a year.

On 3/7/2021 7:57 AM, Hawk wrote:
On 3/4/2021 7:36 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/4/2021 5:43 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
Â*Â* One of the amendments to the H.R. 1 voting act is to allow 16 year
olds to vote.
https://www.bizpacreview.com/2021/03/04/they-really-despise-america-gingrich-pans-democrats-push-to-lower-voting-age-to-16-cancel-dr-seuss-1037884/

OR
http://alturl.com/6o6b5
Â*Â*Â* Letseee.Â*Â* Drinking and smoking age is 21.Â* Sex change
operations???Â* Abortions????Â* One of Biden's nominees seemed to be
saying the sex change thing could be for preteens.



I don't think 16 year olds have the maturity to vote.Â* Not sure the
should drive either and many states have put restrictions in recent
years.

16 year old haven't the maturity to decide for themselves much at all.
IMO, the age of adult should be raised since even at 21, they act like
teens. Most don't even have a sense of direction in their lives until 25.

And then there's people like you with no sense at all.

On 3/8/21 3:10 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:
In article , says...
The $1400 is just the balance due of what Trump wanted to give.

The rest is the same pork both side always load up bill with.

Some people really do need help but the earnings limit should be much
less. If a couple has $160k income they don't need or deserve a
stimulus check. Should tap out below $100k.


While lots of people need the help, there are many that the virus has
not impacted.

LIke the wife and I . Being retired, we get the same ammount of money
no matter what . OUtside of what the IRA does. Many people are working
just the same, My son and son in law have not been affected money wise.
Son is even better off as he is working from home now. There is no rel
reson to give us the money. The ones that need it are the ones that
were working and have not worked in about a year.


The government should tax people with IRAs maybe 1% more and give it to illegals sneaking across the US border.

On 2021-03-08, jimmy wrote:
People should not be allowed to vote until they are paying at least 10% federal income tax.

People should not be permitted to vote if they are receiving entitlement
checks, due to conflict of interest.

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