Until now most people were merely voting against Bush. But now for
the first time undecided voters are seeing not just someone who is
"not Bush" but a man they'd like in the White House.

Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

"My guy won."

"My guy won."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"Your guy's a flip-flopper who can't be trusted."

"Your guy's a (w)reckless, squandering bully who can't be trusted."

"Four more years. Four more years."

"New leadership to clean up the mishandled, mistaken mess."
______________

OK, everyone, that just about cover it?

Sadly, no. It won't cover it. When people wake up tomorrow we're in for
another bout of angry people trading insults and high-level abstractions.
(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase? Levels of
abstraction?)

I will be _Sooooo_ glad when this election is over.


Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

Or what we are going to make people for Christmas. (I still owe my folks a
quilt rack from last year.)

--RC



--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and achievment.

anybody got any good Ideas for small projects for gifts?
I was thinking a box with a cheese knife set and a maple/cherry cutting
board lid, any Ieads? thoughs?
still wondering what the best way to do it, make the lid the cutting board,
make the cutting board removeable from the lid etc.
Rick Cook wrote:



Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

"My guy won."

"My guy won."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"Your guy's a flip-flopper who can't be trusted."

"Your guy's a (w)reckless, squandering bully who can't be trusted."

"Four more years. Four more years."

"New leadership to clean up the mishandled, mistaken mess."
______________

OK, everyone, that just about cover it?

Sadly, no. It won't cover it. When people wake up tomorrow we're in for
another bout of angry people trading insults and high-level abstractions.
(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase? Levels
of abstraction?)

I will be _Sooooo_ glad when this election is over.


Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

Or what we are going to make people for Christmas. (I still owe my folks a
quilt rack from last year.)

--RC



--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and achievment.

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking up
a collection in the back.
SH

Hey I got my wish from Lee Valley !! They now have a wishlist on the site.
It is a recent addition. No?

Thanks Robin !! You now have your wish

Rich





"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message
...

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking
up
a collection in the back.
SH

"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message
...

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking
up
a collection in the back.
SH



Too late - I already got it....

Cheers -

Rob Lee

Hi Rich -

Yes - it's a new addition, just went live yesterday AM....and slicker than
McDonalds' floor tiles in winter....

Our staff (we develop internally here) did a great job!

Cheers -

Rob



"RKON" wrote in message
news:yrf7d.1392$UA.43@lakeread08...
Hey I got my wish from Lee Valley !! They now have a wishlist on the site.
It is a recent addition. No?

Thanks Robin !! You now have your wish

Rich





"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message
...

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can
buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking
up
a collection in the back.
SH

In article ,
"Robin Lee" wrote:

Too late - I already got it....

Cheers -

Rob Lee

Hi Rob. When you saw the newsgroup headers, di'ja wonder just how LV was
getting tied into a Kerry for President thread?

"Kerry. Kerry. Kerry. Kerry. LV. Kerry. Kerry... What the hell?"

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and achievment.

Richard Clements wrote:

anybody got any good Ideas for small projects for gifts?

Depends on how much effort you want to put forth for that person. For simple
gifts I'm partial to coasters with chip carved designs. Something I want to put
more time into might include house signs with relief carved designs. (I'm
working on one now that's got a macaw looking at a griffin because those are the
people's favorite animals.) Jewelry boxes/dresser boxes are always nice and the
bandsawn ones have been big hits.


I was thinking a box with a cheese knife set and a maple/cherry cutting
board lid, any Ieads? thoughs?
still wondering what the best way to do it, make the lid the cutting board,
make the cutting board removeable from the lid etc.

If it was me, I'd make the cutting board detachable, or perhaps put slots in the
cutting board like a knife block to store the knives.

--RC


Rick Cook wrote:



Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

"My guy won."

"My guy won."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"Your guy's a flip-flopper who can't be trusted."

"Your guy's a (w)reckless, squandering bully who can't be trusted."

"Four more years. Four more years."

"New leadership to clean up the mishandled, mistaken mess."
______________

OK, everyone, that just about cover it?

Sadly, no. It won't cover it. When people wake up tomorrow we're in for
another bout of angry people trading insults and high-level abstractions.
(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase? Levels
of abstraction?)

I will be _Sooooo_ glad when this election is over.


Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

Or what we are going to make people for Christmas. (I still owe my folks a
quilt rack from last year.)

--RC



--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and achievment.

An OT thread that drifted back on topic! This may be a first.

--RC

Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

In article ,
"Robin Lee" wrote:

Too late - I already got it....

Cheers -

Rob Lee

Hi Rob. When you saw the newsgroup headers, di'ja wonder just how LV was
getting tied into a Kerry for President thread?

"Kerry. Kerry. Kerry. Kerry. LV. Kerry. Kerry... What the hell?"

--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and achievment.

"Robin Lee" wrote in message
...

"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message
...

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can
buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking
up
a collection in the back.
SH



Too late - I already got it....

You know, Xmas is all about giving and sharing g
SH

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:54:31 -0400, Robin Lee wrote:

"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message
...

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking
up
a collection in the back.
SH



Too late - I already got it....


Dear Santa,

To save time, please find enclosed a copy of the latest Lee Valley
catalog, and my inventory of shop tools. Please send one of every item
in the catalog that isn't already in my inventory.

Rick Cook wrote in message ...

(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase? Levels of
abstraction?)


http://www.getriil.org/effective.htm

--

FF

Rob,

The wish list is a job well done.

Now where is the option to select the ENTIRE catalog and add to the
wish list?

Andy

On Fri, 1 Oct 2004 13:57:04 -0400, "Robin Lee"
wrote:

Hi Rich -

Yes - it's a new addition, just went live yesterday AM....and slicker than
McDonalds' floor tiles in winter....

Our staff (we develop internally here) did a great job!

Cheers -

Rob



"RKON" wrote in message
news:yrf7d.1392$UA.43@lakeread08...
Hey I got my wish from Lee Valley !! They now have a wishlist on the site.
It is a recent addition. No?

Thanks Robin !! You now have your wish

Rich





"Slowhand" I'm@work wrote in message
...

"Fly-by-Night CC" wrote in message
news

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

I want Lee Valley for Christmas. All of it. If Black and Decker can
buy
Delta/Porter Cable, then I should be able to buy Lee Valley. I'm taking
up
a collection in the back.
SH

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 02:26:46 -0700, Fly-by-Night CC
wrote:

.... snip

OK, everyone, that just about cover it? Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

You know, I don't know. A few finishing elves would be nice. I'm not
looking forward to putting the finish on the entertainment center. I'm
building the one from Woodsmith 249. After assembling the carcases, I
realized I'm not building an entertainment center, I'm building a flippin'
room. So, a few elves to put on the Danish oil, followed by some Watco
wiping varnish would be nice.

Fred the Red Shirt wrote:

Rick Cook wrote in message ...

(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase? Levels of
abstraction?)


http://www.getriil.org/effective.htm

--

FF

In other words, no.

Arrgh! We not only get the government most of us deserve, we get the level of political discourse we all
deserve.

--RC

On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:00:36 -0400, Richard Clements
wrote:

I've always found that small boxes are appreciated...

anybody got any good Ideas for small projects for gifts?
I was thinking a box with a cheese knife set and a maple/cherry cutting
board lid, any Ieads? thoughs?
still wondering what the best way to do it, make the lid the cutting board,
make the cutting board removeable from the lid etc.
Rick Cook wrote:



Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

"My guy won."

"My guy won."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"Your guy's a flip-flopper who can't be trusted."

"Your guy's a (w)reckless, squandering bully who can't be trusted."

"Four more years. Four more years."

"New leadership to clean up the mishandled, mistaken mess."
______________

OK, everyone, that just about cover it?

Sadly, no. It won't cover it. When people wake up tomorrow we're in for
another bout of angry people trading insults and high-level abstractions.
(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase? Levels
of abstraction?)

I will be _Sooooo_ glad when this election is over.


Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

Or what we are going to make people for Christmas. (I still owe my folks a
quilt rack from last year.)

--RC



--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and achievment.



Mac

Why would anybody vote for a Traitor? I heard that if he is elected he is
going to appoint Jane Fonda as ambassador to North Vietnam. Would you
honestly want to be in a foxhole with this jerk? The morale in the Armed
Services overnight will be at an all time low. If he says the Swift Boat
guys are lying about him, why doesn't he take them to court and sue them foe
slander and defamation of character? They would love to get him on the
court room stand.



"mac davis" wrote in message
...
On Fri, 01 Oct 2004 11:00:36 -0400, Richard Clements
wrote:

I've always found that small boxes are appreciated...

anybody got any good Ideas for small projects for gifts?
I was thinking a box with a cheese knife set and a maple/cherry cutting
board lid, any Ieads? thoughs?
still wondering what the best way to do it, make the lid the cutting
board,
make the cutting board removeable from the lid etc.
Rick Cook wrote:



Fly-by-Night CC wrote:

"My guy won."

"My guy won."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy did better'n your guy."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"My guy looked better on TV."

"Your guy's a flip-flopper who can't be trusted."

"Your guy's a (w)reckless, squandering bully who can't be
trusted."

"Four more years. Four more years."

"New leadership to clean up the mishandled, mistaken mess."
______________

OK, everyone, that just about cover it?

Sadly, no. It won't cover it. When people wake up tomorrow we're in for
another bout of angry people trading insults and high-level
abstractions.
(Did any of these folks ever hear of S. I. Hawakawa? Stuart Chase?
Levels
of abstraction?)

I will be _Sooooo_ glad when this election is over.


Good, let's get back to
important issues, like what to ask of Santa for Christmas.

Or what we are going to make people for Christmas. (I still owe my
folks a
quilt rack from last year.)

--RC



--
Owen Lowe and his Fly-by-Night Copper Company
____
The problem in this country is that the bar is constantly being
lowered;
we then cheer clearing the bar as a great accomplishment and
achievment.



Mac

Ace wins with:


Why would anybody vote for a Traitor? I heard that if he is elected he is
going to appoint Jane Fonda as ambassador to North Vietnam. Would you
honestly want to be in a foxhole with this jerk?

The Navy seldom uses foxholes. And I'd as soon never be in a foxhole with
anyone.

By the way, you did win: Asshole of The Week.

Charlie Self
"Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of principles."
Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

In article , otforme (Charlie Self) wrote:
Ace wins with:


Why would anybody vote for a Traitor? I heard that if he is elected he is
going to appoint Jane Fonda as ambassador to North Vietnam. Would you
honestly want to be in a foxhole with this jerk?

The Navy seldom uses foxholes. And I'd as soon never be in a foxhole with
anyone.

By the way, you did win: Asshole of The Week.

I dunno, Charlie, he had some pretty stiff competition down Tampa way...

--
Regards,
Doug Miller (alphageek-at-milmac-dot-com)

Get a copy of my NEW AND IMPROVED TrollFilter for NewsProxy/Nfilter
by sending email to autoresponder at filterinfo-at-milmac-dot-com
You must use your REAL email address to get a response.

"Rick Cook" wrote in message
...


Richard Clements wrote:

anybody got any good Ideas for small projects for gifts?

Depends on how much effort you want to put forth for that person. For
simple
gifts I'm partial to coasters with chip carved designs. Something I want
to put
more time into might include house signs with relief carved designs. (I'm
working on one now that's got a macaw looking at a griffin because those
are the
people's favorite animals.) Jewelry boxes/dresser boxes are always nice
and the
bandsawn ones have been big hits.


I was thinking a box with a cheese knife set and a maple/cherry cutting
board lid, any Ieads? thoughs?
still wondering what the best way to do it, make the lid the cutting
board,
make the cutting board removeable from the lid etc.

If it was me, I'd make the cutting board detachable, or perhaps put slots
in the
cutting board like a knife block to store the knives.

At least Kerry has made up his mind on this one, he is going to give Terasa
a WAFFLE iron for Christmas, well I will take that back, if elected it might
well have been renamed as the "winter holiday" !!!! mjh

Hey Charlie
Take your left hand and grab a hold of your left ear and pull your head out
of your ass!


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Ace wins with:


Why would anybody vote for a Traitor? I heard that if he is elected he
is
going to appoint Jane Fonda as ambassador to North Vietnam. Would you
honestly want to be in a foxhole with this jerk?

The Navy seldom uses foxholes. And I'd as soon never be in a foxhole with
anyone.

By the way, you did win: Asshole of The Week.

Charlie Self
"Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of
principles."
Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary

"Ace" wrote in message
news:WCA7d.156566$MQ5.130578@attbi_s52...
Why would anybody vote for a Traitor?

Traitor? You're an insulting ass. Kerry served in combat and was awarded
several medals for heroism. The Republican special forces soldier whose
life he saved wrote about it in the Washington Post:
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110005460

I heard that if he is elected he is
Would you honestly want to be in a foxhole with this jerk?

Absolutely. He'd be my first choice. By the way, he had a reputation for
being very aggressive in combat.
http://www.opinionjournal.com/editor...l?id=110005460

By the way, you did win: Asshole of The Week.

I dunno, Charlie, he had some pretty stiff competition down Tampa way...

Miller with more gratuitous insults. Revealing his character.

Jeff Harper
Tampa, FL

How clever, mature, and original.


"Ace" wrote in message
news:yDC7d.400948$8_6.371731@attbi_s04...
Hey Charlie
Take your left hand and grab a hold of your left ear and pull your head
out
of your ass!


"Charlie Self" wrote in message
...
Ace wins with:


Why would anybody vote for a Traitor? I heard that if he is elected he
is
going to appoint Jane Fonda as ambassador to North Vietnam. Would you
honestly want to be in a foxhole with this jerk?

The Navy seldom uses foxholes. And I'd as soon never be in a foxhole
with
anyone.

By the way, you did win: Asshole of The Week.

Charlie Self
"Politics, n. Strife of interests masquerading as a contest of
principles."
Ambrose Bierce, The Devil's Dictionary