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Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use
them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! -- I love a good meal! That's why I don't cook. |
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On 30 Mar 2017 18:16:30 GMT, KenK wrote:
Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I got a new car a couple of years ago - with a more pleasant delicate sounding blinker noise ... hence I am now .. " That Old Guy Driving With His Blinker On " ... and a deep-seated need to write a country song ! John T. |
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! So, you think that the same people who don't bother to lift their hand to move a little lever will open their window and stick their arm out? Really? |
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On 3/30/2017 2:16 PM, KenK wrote:
Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! Most never use them, A few leave them blinking, Some actually use them correctly......at least around my neck of the woods. IF they can't move a few inches to push a lever, do you really think they will stick their arm out the window? |
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On 3/30/2017 2:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! So, you think that the same people who don't bother to lift their hand to move a little lever will open their window and stick their arm out? Really? G8 minds. |
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On 3/30/2017 2:30 PM, My 2 Cents wrote:
On 3/30/2017 1:27 PM, wrote: On 30 Mar 2017 18:16:30 GMT, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I got a new car a couple of years ago - with a more pleasant delicate sounding blinker noise ... hence I am now .. " That Old Guy Driving With His Blinker On " .. and a deep-seated need to write a country song ! John T. Self driving cars, they will take care of us, "car, take me to walmart". I wouldn't be surprised if those cars are smarter than many drivers. |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 11:49:33 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote: So, you think that the same people who don't bother to lift their hand to move a little lever will open their window and stick their arm out? Really? I see people sticking their arm out the window signaling people all the time. It is usually "you are #1". |
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On 03/30/2017 01:30 PM, My 2 Cents wrote:
[snip] Self driving cars, they will take care of us, "car, take me to walmart". "Sorry, I was offered more money to take to you Target instead." -- "The whole principle [of censorship] is wrong; it's like demanding that grown men live on skim milk because the baby can't eat steak." -Robert A. Heinlein |
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On 03/30/2017 03:04 PM, wrote:
[snip] I see people sticking their arm out the window signaling people all the time. It is usually "you are #1". Or mumble-mumble, which probably means the same as the thing above. -- Mark Lloyd http://notstupid.us/ "Don't try to be happy, it will only make you miserable." -- dialogue from the movie Lovers and Other Strangers |
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On Thu, 30 Mar 2017 15:30:54 -0500, Mark Lloyd
wrote: I see people sticking their arm out the window signaling people all the time. It is usually "you are #1". Or mumble-mumble, which probably means the same as the thing above. Plus; you don't have to stick your arm out of the window unless you have a moon window on the roof. |
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 3:54:10 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 3/30/2017 2:49 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! So, you think that the same people who don't bother to lift their hand to move a little lever will open their window and stick their arm out? Really? G8 minds. |
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KenK wrote:
Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! Half the time I can't see them because they are on the other side of my viewing angle. There are very few that comply to old laws. Every day I come upon a stopped car. I don't assume the blinker is on if I can't see it. I give them no slack in pulling out onto a road. Greg |
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On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. |
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On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. If one changes lanes or makes a turn from a main road, use them. If one is in a turn only lane, I don't really care as it's obvious of the intent. I see the opposite everyday. |
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Meanie wrote:
Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. Or wherever a cop may be lurking. People have gotten tickets for not turning on their signals soon enough in turn-only lanes. |
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On 3/31/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote:
Meanie wrote: Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. Or wherever a cop may be lurking. People have gotten tickets for not turning on their signals soon enough in turn-only lanes. As the should. If I was a cop I'd probably hold the record for tickets issued for not using a signal. Many drivers just don't care to push the lever. Not using signals is just a lazy bad habit. |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:21:43 AM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. That tells me that you "believe" turn signals. If you are trying to pull out from a side street or parking lot, and you see a vehicle approaching from the left with the right hand turn signal on, do you pull out? Isn't his intention "obvious"? I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. If one changes lanes or makes a turn from a main road, use them. If one is in a turn only lane, I don't really care as it's obvious of the intent. I see the opposite everyday. |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 11:57:09 AM UTC-4, Neill Massello wrote:
Meanie wrote: Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. Turn signals should be used when the law says they should. Or wherever a cop may be lurking. People have gotten tickets for not turning on their signals soon enough in turn-only lanes. Maybe that's because they broke the law. Are you suggesting that turn signals only need to be used to avoid a ticket? |
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On 3/31/2017 12:18 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 3/31/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote: Meanie wrote: Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. Or wherever a cop may be lurking. People have gotten tickets for not turning on their signals soon enough in turn-only lanes. As the should. If I was a cop I'd probably hold the record for tickets issued for not using a signal. Many drivers just don't care to push the lever. Not using signals is just a lazy bad habit. I look at them and wonder. You'd think a $50,000 vehicle would have come with turn signals. When I was a kid, cars did not come with turn signals. In those days only options were radio and heater. I took drivers test signaling with hand out window. I always signal drivers in back but may not signal drivers in front as if I am making a right turn and they are turning left they might figure I will be slower than them and cut in front of me. I agree with others that it is stupid to assume the signaler will do as he signaled and wait to see car going in that direction. |
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On 3/31/2017 6:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Same here, and sometimes, I'll tap the breaks a few times so the driver behind me can see my red tail lights flash before I actually come to a stop. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. -- Maggie |
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On 3/31/2017 11:26 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:21:43 AM UTC-4, Meanie wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. That tells me that you "believe" turn signals. If you are trying to pull out from a side street or parking lot, and you see a vehicle approaching from the left with the right hand turn signal on, do you pull out? Isn't his intention "obvious"? I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. If one changes lanes or makes a turn from a main road, use them. If one is in a turn only lane, I don't really care as it's obvious of the intent. I see the opposite everyday. Same for me! -- Maggie |
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On 3/31/2017 12:26 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:21:43 AM UTC-4, Meanie wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. That tells me that you "believe" turn signals. If you are trying to pull out from a side street or parking lot, and you see a vehicle approaching from the left with the right hand turn signal on, do you pull out? Isn't his intention "obvious"? His intentions are to turn which is the beginning of caution for surrounding drivers. The question is where it is turning. What if it that car passed you while you were waiting to exit that lot, you were behind it and it turned without using the signal? If it passed me while using the signal and I turned behind it, at least I know they will still be turning or they left it on, but at least I can react accordingly knowing their supposed intent. I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. That's fine, but at least you are more aware of their intent to turn than no signal at all. Whether you proceed or not before or after is irrelevant. |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
Are you suggesting that turn signals only need to be used to avoid a ticket? Do you know the meaning of the word "or"? |
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DerbyDad03 wrote:
I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. Are you suggesting that turn signals are useless? |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-4, Neill Massello wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. Are you suggesting that turn signals are useless? Nice stretch. |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:32:07 PM UTC-4, Neill Massello wrote:
DerbyDad03 wrote: Are you suggesting that turn signals only need to be used to avoid a ticket? Do you know the meaning of the word "or"? Pleas don't snip the relevant portion of a post just you can try to make an irrelevant point. |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:28:24 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 3/31/2017 12:26 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:21:43 AM UTC-4, Meanie wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. That tells me that you "believe" turn signals. If you are trying to pull out from a side street or parking lot, and you see a vehicle approaching from the left with the right hand turn signal on, do you pull out? Isn't his intention "obvious"? His intentions are to turn which is the beginning of caution for surrounding drivers. How do you know what his intentions are? Go back to the post that started this thread. Read the part of the complaint related to those that leave their signals on permanently. For all you know, he signaled to change lanes earlier and left it on, having no intention of turning any time soon, if at all. The question is where it is turning. What if it that car passed you while you were waiting to exit that lot, you were behind it and it turned without using the signal? If it passed me while using the signal and I turned behind it, at least I know they will still be turning or they left it on, but at least I can react accordingly knowing their supposed intent. "Knowing their supposed intent"? That's not "knowing", that's "assuming". I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. That's fine, but at least you are more aware of their intent to turn than no signal at all. Whether you proceed or not before or after is irrelevant. I have know knowledge or awareness of their intent. All I know is that their turn signal is on. Oh yeah, I also know that turn signals don't stop cars, so I won't pull out until they perform an action that clarifies their intent. |
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Pleas don't snip Please don't post for minor gripe, says the snippy snapping snipe. Or you may find that home repair is left in limbo - in the air. For when it comes to picking nit most of us don't give a #!*%?.. :-) John T. |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 2:56:23 PM UTC-4, wrote:
Pleas don't snip Please don't post for minor gripe, says the snippy snapping snipe. Or you may find that home repair is left in limbo - in the air. For when it comes to picking nit most of us don't give a #!*%?.. :-) John T. I don't want to pick a fight But it wasn't just a minor gripe. The snip removed the point of the post So therefore the compliant is worth the most. The question asked was not much fun Because of the snipping that was done. |
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On 3/31/2017 2:22 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:28:24 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote: On 3/31/2017 12:26 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:21:43 AM UTC-4, Meanie wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. That tells me that you "believe" turn signals. If you are trying to pull out from a side street or parking lot, and you see a vehicle approaching from the left with the right hand turn signal on, do you pull out? Isn't his intention "obvious"? His intentions are to turn which is the beginning of caution for surrounding drivers. How do you know what his intentions are? Go back to the post that started this thread. Read the part of the complaint related to those that leave their signals on permanently. For all you know, he signaled to change lanes earlier and left it on, having no intention of turning any time soon, if at all. You have a greater assumption the driver is turning than not, when the signal is on. I would guess 99% of drivers who use signals remember to turn them off since I rarely see that error. A greater % belongs to those who don't use them. Therefore, I would place a safe bet the vehicle is turning. Regardless of it's real intent, you plan to wait for it's movement and the point becomes moot. The question is where it is turning. What if it that car passed you while you were waiting to exit that lot, you were behind it and it turned without using the signal? If it passed me while using the signal and I turned behind it, at least I know they will still be turning or they left it on, but at least I can react accordingly knowing their supposed intent. "Knowing their supposed intent"? That's not "knowing", that's "assuming". And it's a closer approximation than not knowing at all. I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. That's fine, but at least you are more aware of their intent to turn than no signal at all. Whether you proceed or not before or after is irrelevant. I have know knowledge or awareness of their intent. All I know is that their turn signal is on. Oh yeah, I also know that turn signals don't stop cars, so I won't pull out until they perform an action that clarifies their intent. Once again, nothing wrong with that and you can beat this issue till the flies eliminate the horse. The fact is, you have a greater assumption a driver will be turning with a lit signal than one with no signal. |
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On 3/31/2017 2:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-4, Neill Massello wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. Are you suggesting that turn signals are useless? Nice stretch. Actually, I think it's a fairly valid question. If one ignores the use of signals or the observance of them, perhaps they deem them useless or pointless. |
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On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 3:48:52 PM UTC-4, Meanie wrote:
On 3/31/2017 2:12 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 1:59:42 PM UTC-4, Neill Massello wrote: DerbyDad03 wrote: I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. Are you suggesting that turn signals are useless? Nice stretch. Actually, I think it's a fairly valid question. If one ignores the use of signals or the observance of them, perhaps they deem them useless or pointless. Fairly valid? Now there's a strong endorsement. I described a specific situation where I wait until I'm sure of the driver's intention: The situation where my pulling out in front of the vehicle that has the turn signal on will result in an accident if the vehicle does not turn. How does that strech to "I think turn signals are useless"? |
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31 Mar 2017 16:18:28 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote:
On 3/31/2017 11:57 AM, Neill Massello wrote: Meanie wrote: Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. Or wherever a cop may be lurking. People have gotten tickets for not turning on their signals soon enough in turn-only lanes. As the should. If I was a cop I'd probably hold the record for tickets issued for not using a signal. Many drivers just don't care to push the lever. Not using signals is just a lazy bad habit. There's a running joke around here concerning new cars. Evidently, the turning lights don't actually work. [g] I'd be right behind you, issuing tickets to those individuals who like to run stop signs and then slow to a crawl knowing vehicles are behind them. If you were in such a hurry, you should stay on the ****ing gas. No point in impeding traffic. Or the people who switch over to the left hand lane ONLY TO PACE The car in the right hand lane, not overtake them (you know, pass!), but ride nose to nose beside them. I'd give them the biggest ticket I could. And, I'd make sure I was present on the specified court date so the judge doesn't auto dismiss and let the person off. Nopers. I'd also ticket the hell out of the people who like to ride around with their bright lights on all the time, too. You're either running the brights because you have a headlight out, or, you want to be an asshole towards oncoming drivers and the one in front of you. When you see a car coming towards you, turn the ****ing brights off. You can turn them back on as soon as the car clears you. Why blind the oncoming car? Are you trying to get drilled in a head on collision? -- Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts |
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Fri, 31 Mar 2017 16:26:49 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote: On Friday, March 31, 2017 at 7:21:43 AM UTC-4, Meanie wrote: On 3/31/2017 7:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Turn signals don't stop cars. I never pull out in front of a car that has the turn signal on. I wait until the driver has committed to the turn. I love those drivers who signal 2 miles before the turn. Turn signals should be used where it isn't obvious of the intention of the driver. That tells me that you "believe" turn signals. If you are trying to pull out from a side street or parking lot, and you see a vehicle approaching from the left with the right hand turn signal on, do you pull out? Isn't his intention "obvious"? It should be, but, the driver might have had that turn signal on for another turn he made several miles ago and forgot it's still on. Thus, he/she has no intention of making the turn as his/her vehicle is indicating. I've followed people down the interstate that had their turn signals on when they merged into traffic flow, only to keep it on for miles down the road. How they don't realize it's still on, is beyond me. My dash lights flash and I can hear a ding ding sound in the event I can't see the dash light flashing. I shouldn't need a ding ding sound, I should know because I've got an arrow blinking to the right/left that my turn signal is still on, but.. YMMV. I don't pull out until the other driver has committed to the turn by beginning the turn. I don't care if they slow to a crawl. Unless they begin to turn - or wave me out - I don't claim to know their intention. Same here. I like my ride, and, I don't want to smash it into something because I assumed the driver was going to do what his ride was indicating. -- Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts |
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Fri, 31 Mar 2017 18:22:19 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote: "Knowing their supposed intent"? That's not "knowing", that's "assuming". You know what they say about assuming... -- Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts |
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news 31 Mar 2017 16:36:35 GMT in alt.home.repair, wrote: On 3/31/2017 6:06 AM, DerbyDad03 wrote: On Thursday, March 30, 2017 at 2:16:34 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote: Some never use them. Many leave them blink permanently. A few actually use them correctly. We should have stuck to hand signals! I always do my best to turn my signal on before braking. I like to let the driver behind me know why I am braking. I wish everyone would do that. Same here, and sometimes, I'll tap the breaks a few times so the driver behind me can see my red tail lights flash before I actually come to a stop. That's a very courteous thing to do. I applaud you for it. -- Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. - J.C. Watts |
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OT Turn signals
And I rarely ever see operators of vans, pickup trucks, or police cars use them! |
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