In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 09:13:44 -0000, Bod wrote:

In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

Try that here and there'd be petrol bombs through your window.

--
Dancing cheektocheek is really a form of floor play.

On 3/8/2017 9:21 AM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 09:13:44 -0000, Bod wrote:

In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

Try that here and there'd be petrol bombs through your window.


Obviously you missed the humor in that metaphor, gay boy.

Bod wrote:
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

Ancient and **** poor.
You must be so very bored to post to post crap like this.
Get a life away from a keyboard.

On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 19:41:29 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Bod wrote:
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

Ancient and **** poor.
You must be so very bored to post to post crap like this.
Get a life away from a keyboard.


You're the second one to miss the humor. You must be a democrat.

Oren wrote:
On Wed, 8 Mar 2017 19:41:29 -0000, "Mr Pounder Esquire"
wrote:

Bod wrote:
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar
alarm sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

Ancient and **** poor.
You must be so very bored to post to post crap like this.
Get a life away from a keyboard.


You're the second one to miss the humor. You must be a democrat.

I read the same posting about four years ago somewhere else.
Ha ha ha and all of that.
I thought that you may have understood my original post. Never mind.

"Bod" wrote in message
...
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

The Shia are gonna get you.

On Wed, 08 Mar 2017 23:27:39 -0000, catalpa wrote:


"Bod" wrote in message
...
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

The Shia are gonna get you.

The Shia need to be deported. One day our thicko government will work out they're fighting a secret war.

--
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After 3 hours of amazing sex, Paddy says "I wonder how the girls are getting on".

On 03/08/2017 04:13 AM, Bod wrote:
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.


Park a white toyota truck (with machine guns mounted in bed) in the
driveway.

On 3/9/2017 9:27 AM, fred wrote:
On 03/08/2017 04:13 AM, Bod wrote:
In the light of recent police announcements I have taken down
the St Georges flag from beside the house and peeled the burglar alarm
sticker off the front door.
We've disconnected our home alarm system and quit our neighbourhood
watch.
I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.


Park a white toyota truck (with machine guns mounted in bed) in the
driveway.

Erm!....it WAS a joke.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 11:24:48 +0000, Bod wrote:

Park a white toyota truck (with machine guns mounted in bed) in the
driveway.

Erm!....it WAS a joke.

https://tinyurl.com/h56r4lv

Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.


We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

--
Maggie

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

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In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

--
RonNNN

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!

--
The true mark of a civilized society is when its citizens know how to hate each other peacefully.

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My
neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt
he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!

Some pot growers are stupid as **** too!

--
RonNNN

On 3/9/2017 3:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and
looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My
neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt
he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!


We had some heaters in the large fish tanks and some propane heaters
we'd turn on when the weather was cold to keep the plants from freezing
if the warm water didn't keep it warm enough. I don't know if they were
using heat sensitive imaging or not, but pot growers use a lot of lights
(not sure about heaters), which produce a stronger than normal heat
signature.

I'm guessing the fish tank heaters showed some sort of heat signature,
but not near enough to be suspicious. It was just weird. I didn't see
that one particular incident with the unmarked black 'copter, but I've
seen one like it fly over on different occasions.

Right now I only have some overwintering citrus plants in the greenhouse
and some tomato starts for the spring... no heaters going at all.

--
Maggie

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:21:20 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says....

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My
neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt
he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!

Some pot growers are stupid as **** too!

But chances are the greenhouse will contain vegetables. What a waste of time. And for a crime that shouldn't be.

--
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The last question was: "Where do most women have curly hair?"
Apparently the correct answer is "Africa".
I've been asked to find another placed to worship....

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:04:54 -0600, RonNNN wrote:

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Only if you get caught by John Law.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:45:34 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 3:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and
looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My
neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt
he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!

We had some heaters in the large fish tanks and some propane heaters
we'd turn on when the weather was cold to keep the plants from freezing
if the warm water didn't keep it warm enough. I don't know if they were
using heat sensitive imaging or not, but pot growers use a lot of lights
(not sure about heaters), which produce a stronger than normal heat
signature.

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:56:37 -0000, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 15:04:54 -0600, RonNNN wrote:

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Only if you get caught by John Law.

Trump Law actually. He has this strange objection to it.

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A child is for life, not just for benefits.

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 13:59:37 -0600, Muggles
wrote:


We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Was he naked? Maybe they turned on FLIR to find the heat source.

On 3/9/2017 4:00 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:45:34 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 3:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says...

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the
front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the
centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his
fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics
system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and
looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My
neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt
he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!

We had some heaters in the large fish tanks and some propane heaters
we'd turn on when the weather was cold to keep the plants from freezing
if the warm water didn't keep it warm enough. I don't know if they were
using heat sensitive imaging or not, but pot growers use a lot of lights
(not sure about heaters), which produce a stronger than normal heat
signature.


Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

Anyway, do you police not end up looking at every house with poor loft
insulation?

I dunno ... it's a big waste of money looking at greenhouse with black
'copters I'm thinking.

I'm guessing the fish tank heaters showed some sort of heat signature,
but not near enough to be suspicious. It was just weird. I didn't see
that one particular incident with the unmarked black 'copter, but I've
seen one like it fly over on different occasions.


If they did that to me I'd make an official complaint.

What would we report? It was a black unmarked helicopter with cameras
on the underside of it. There weren't any identifying number or call
signs on it.

Right now I only have some overwintering citrus plants in the greenhouse
and some tomato starts for the spring... no heaters going at all.


A greenhouse seems a little difficult to me. My neighbour has terrible
trouble with it, its either too hot or too cold. Isn't it easier to
grow the plants in your house? Even a conservatory with double glazing
perhaps. But greenhouses here are single glazed. They get piping hot
in summer and freezing cold in winter, not much use for plants.


Ours isn't finished being built yet. Right now it's got all the framing
done and most of the outer siding and insulation on it, and the roof has
plywood and insulation, too. But the side where the windows go isn't
finished, so the entire greenhouse is wrapped with plastic once, and
then has a second plastic cover over the first one. The entrance has a
double air gapped plastic entryway, so it stays pretty cozy in there
even in cold temps.

--
Maggie

On 3/9/2017 5:32 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 13:59:37 -0600, Muggles
wrote:


We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Was he naked? Maybe they turned on FLIR to find the heat source.


LOL!

--
Maggie

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 23:42:07 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 4:00 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:45:34 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 3:09 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 21:04:54 -0000, RonNNN wrote:

In article , says....

On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 19:59:37 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

On 3/9/2017 12:44 PM, Neill Massello wrote:
Bod wrote:

I've bought two Pakistani flags on Ebay and raised them in the
front
garden, one at each corner, plus a black flag of ISIS in the
centre.
Now the local police, CID, MI5, SAS and other counter terrorism
agencies are all watching the house 24/7.
We've never felt safer and we're saving £24.95 a month.

On the other hand, you might get droned.

We had a black unmarked helicopter buzz our backyard several times
because we have a greenhouse. My husband was taking care of his
fish
tanks that he was experimenting with in creating an aquaponics
system.
He came out of the greenhouse with buckets of fish filters and
looked up
to see that helicopter hovering above him. He was like "WHAT???"

Sorry? They were interested in your greenhouse?!? Aren't those a
common thing to have? I'd say 1 in 5 houses here has one.

Shoot it down!

Growing pot in Oklahoma is still illegal.

Pot is only one of a billion things you can grow in a greenhouse. My
neighbour for example grows tomatoes. If he grew pot I very much doubt
he'd have it visible from outside! Your police are stupid as ****!

We had some heaters in the large fish tanks and some propane heaters
we'd turn on when the weather was cold to keep the plants from freezing
if the warm water didn't keep it warm enough. I don't know if they were
using heat sensitive imaging or not, but pot growers use a lot of lights
(not sure about heaters), which produce a stronger than normal heat
signature.

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

How can it measure the heat if it cannot escape?

Anyway, do you police not end up looking at every house with poor loft
insulation?

I dunno ... it's a big waste of money looking at greenhouse with black
'copters I'm thinking.

Yip, those things don't come cheap.

I'm guessing the fish tank heaters showed some sort of heat signature,
but not near enough to be suspicious. It was just weird. I didn't see
that one particular incident with the unmarked black 'copter, but I've
seen one like it fly over on different occasions.

If they did that to me I'd make an official complaint.

What would we report? It was a black unmarked helicopter with cameras
on the underside of it. There weren't any identifying number or call
signs on it.

Dunno what you call them over there, but I'd contact my MP. Unmarked helicopters floating over your land, sounds like an invasion of privacy to me.

Right now I only have some overwintering citrus plants in the greenhouse
and some tomato starts for the spring... no heaters going at all.

A greenhouse seems a little difficult to me. My neighbour has terrible
trouble with it, its either too hot or too cold. Isn't it easier to
grow the plants in your house? Even a conservatory with double glazing
perhaps. But greenhouses here are single glazed. They get piping hot
in summer and freezing cold in winter, not much use for plants.

Ours isn't finished being built yet. Right now it's got all the framing
done and most of the outer siding and insulation on it, and the roof has
plywood and insulation, too. But the side where the windows go isn't
finished, so the entire greenhouse is wrapped with plastic once, and
then has a second plastic cover over the first one. The entrance has a
double air gapped plastic entryway, so it stays pretty cozy in there
even in cold temps.

That sounds more substantial than what most people call a greenhouse here. Ours are all glass, all single glazing, no insulation at all:
https://www.greenhousepeople.co.uk/c...s/greenhouses/

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Ist Easy Schnappen Der Springenwerken Mit Spitzensparken Und Poppenkorken!
Das Rubbernecken Sightseeren Mus Keep Der Handz In Der Pockets, Relax Und Vatch Die Blinkenlights!!

On 3/9/2017 6:27 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 23:42:07 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

Ours isn't finished being built yet. Right now it's got all the framing
done and most of the outer siding and insulation on it, and the roof has
plywood and insulation, too. But the side where the windows go isn't
finished, so the entire greenhouse is wrapped with plastic once, and
then has a second plastic cover over the first one. The entrance has a
double air gapped plastic entryway, so it stays pretty cozy in there
even in cold temps.

That sounds more substantial than what most people call a greenhouse
here. Ours are all glass, all single glazing, no insulation at all:
https://www.greenhousepeople.co.uk/c...s/greenhouses/


We had an uninsulated GH before and it just costs too much money to keep
them to temp in the winter time. We have the windows in storage and
will finish it maybe later this Spring or early Summer, hopefully.

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 17:42:07 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 01:05:02 -0000, Muggles wrote:

On 3/9/2017 6:27 PM, James Wilkinson Sword wrote:
On Thu, 09 Mar 2017 23:42:07 -0000, Muggles
wrote:

Ours isn't finished being built yet. Right now it's got all the framing
done and most of the outer siding and insulation on it, and the roof has
plywood and insulation, too. But the side where the windows go isn't
finished, so the entire greenhouse is wrapped with plastic once, and
then has a second plastic cover over the first one. The entrance has a
double air gapped plastic entryway, so it stays pretty cozy in there
even in cold temps.

That sounds more substantial than what most people call a greenhouse
here. Ours are all glass, all single glazing, no insulation at all:
https://www.greenhousepeople.co.uk/c...s/greenhouses/

We had an uninsulated GH before and it just costs too much money to keep
them to temp in the winter time. We have the windows in storage and
will finish it maybe later this Spring or early Summer, hopefully.

AFAIK most people here in Scotland with greenhouses only use them in summer. They allow them to grow things which would not grow outdoors as they need more heat.

If I wanted to grow veggies all year round, I'd use a conservatory. Double glazing, part of the house, heated.

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On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 01:11:39 -0000, Oren wrote:

On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 17:42:07 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling.

No, I'm trying to inject some common sense into the conversation.

Foil will not work with/in a building using FLIR.

Foil reflects heat, this is a basic law of physics. There will be no visible heat signature outside the building.

A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

Neither is using a lot of electricity. I can think of two reasons to be using lots of electricity, both of which I've done. They both use computers running full blast 24/7. At one point I was using 6.5kW 24 hours a day.

As for growing, what temperature do they need? I'm guessing not much more than room temperature. So how do you tell it's not just someone who likes a warm house?

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On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 17:42:07 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

We went through this before with her. It's either BS or they were on a
routine patrol when their retinas blew due to the heat signature.

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Tekkie

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:39:29 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

We went through this before with her. It's either BS or they were on a
routine patrol when their retinas blew due to the heat signature.

We need lead walls, etc., to keep po-po from looking inside our abodes
using FLIR?

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 23:40:23 -0000, Oren wrote:

On Fri, 10 Mar 2017 15:39:29 -0500, Tekkie®
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

We went through this before with her. It's either BS or they were on a
routine patrol when their retinas blew due to the heat signature.

We need lead walls, etc., to keep po-po from looking inside our abodes
using FLIR?

America allows all its citizens to be armed. So why don't you destroy the police? Aren't you in control?

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On 3/10/2017 2:39 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 17:42:07 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

We went through this before with her. It's either BS or they were on a
routine patrol when their retinas blew due to the heat signature.


What are you talking about 'went through this before with her'?

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Maggie

Muggles posted for all of us...



On 3/10/2017 2:39 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 17:42:07 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

We went through this before with her. It's either BS or they were on a
routine patrol when their retinas blew due to the heat signature.


What are you talking about 'went through this before with her'?

The black helicopter story and your refusal to see any other opinion.

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Tekkie

On 3/13/2017 2:56 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Muggles posted for all of us...



On 3/10/2017 2:39 PM, Tekkie® wrote:
Oren posted for all of us...



On Thu, 9 Mar 2017 17:42:07 -0600, Muggles
wrote:

Not if they use reflective walls (tin foil) to keep the light and heat in.

I don't think it matters about reflective walls when a heat sensor is
measuring a heat signature of any building.

The brit is trolling. Foil will not work with/in a building using
FLIR. A good search warrant will demonstrate probable cause for a
search warrant using the homes electric bill. Covering windows in foil
is not probable cause for a warrant.

We went through this before with her. It's either BS or they were on a
routine patrol when their retinas blew due to the heat signature.


What are you talking about 'went through this before with her'?

The black helicopter story and your refusal to see any other opinion.


What other opinion? I was just relaying an incident that actually happened.

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Maggie