On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for Clinton by mistake?

01001100110 wrote on 10/26/2016 :
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a straight
Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes the vote to
Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or you find you've
voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the machine to
accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for
Clinton by mistake?

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

On 10/26/2016 8:39 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
01001100110 wrote on 10/26/2016 :
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a
straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes
the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing
or you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the
machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting
for Clinton by mistake?

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

These states should get rid of their electronic voting machines. Just
admit it was a horrible mistake and return to paper ballots and
optical scanners. That way they've got a paper trail.

My precinct introduced one electronic machine for trial purposes a
couple of elections ago. Voters were told it was optional. If they
wanted to use it, they were free to do so. Almost nobody wanted to. We
prefer marking our paper ballots.

On 10/26/2016 07:51 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
We prefer marking our paper ballots.

A study has shown 73.2% of the Democratic voters are not familiar with
the use of a pencil. A slightly higher percentage of Republicans know it
is something to chew on.

On Wednesday, October 26, 2016 at 12:16:15 AM UTC-4, 01001100110 wrote:
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for Clinton by mistake?

Must be some very strange ballots they use in TX, where you start out
voting all GOP, then check the box for Trump. Every ballot I've ever
seen, the presidential candidates are at the top and if you go in a
normal order, you select them first.

Also, I was not aware that early voting is done using machines.
My understanding is that it's done with absentee ballots. If it's
done with machines, that sounds really dumb, because you have machines
sitting around capable of being screwed with for a month, instead of
one day with everyone watching.

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Also, I was not aware that early voting is done using machines.
My understanding is that it's done with absentee ballots. If it's
done with machines, that sounds really dumb, because you have machines
sitting around capable of being screwed with for a month, instead of
one day with everyone watching.

They usually use the same voting method for early voting (in person)
as they use for the general election. The machines are dumped at the
end of the day if they are not connected to a server and those totals
are saved until election day in some secure format. At least that is
the way it is happening in Florida.
We use optically scanned paper that is electronically tabulated but
could be read manually if we have another "sore loserman" situation.

On 10/26/2016 9:39 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
01001100110 wrote on 10/26/2016 :
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a
straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes
the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or
you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the
machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for
Clinton by mistake?

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

Snopes people are Democrats.

On 10/26/2016 10:28 AM, Meanie wrote:
On 10/26/2016 9:39 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
01001100110 wrote on 10/26/2016 :
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a
straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes
the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or
you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the
machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for
Clinton by mistake?

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

Snopes people are Democrats.

People who believe that are gullible conspiracy theorists.

Anyone who's had any personal interaction with Dave Mikkelson,
founder/owner of snopes.com, knows that he is impartial and insistent
on only looking at facts to the point where it can become maddening,
because He. Never. Takes. Sides.

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:35:24 -0500
Moe DeLoughan wrote:

Dave Mikkelson,
founder/owner of snopes.com, knows that he is impartial and insistent
on only looking at facts to the point where it can become maddening,
because He. Never. Takes. Sides.

That is NOT True.

He/they sides with/covers for democrats/liberals/socialist

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT)
trader_4 wrote:

Every ballot I've ever
seen,

So because you have not seen one it does not exist?

What a ****ing big headed, troll

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT)
trader_4 wrote:

Every ballot I've ever
seen,

So because you have not seen one it does not exist?

What a ****ing big headed, troll.

trader_4 wrote:

Must be some very strange ballots they use in TX, where you start out
voting all GOP, then check the box for Trump. Every ballot I've ever
seen, the presidential candidates are at the top and if you go in a
normal order, you select them first.

Also, I was not aware that early voting is done using machines.
My understanding is that it's done with absentee ballots. If it's
done with machines, that sounds really dumb, because you have machines
sitting around capable of being screwed with for a month, instead of
one day with everyone watching.

IOW, you know nothing about voting in Texas.


--
Let all the poisons that lurk in the mud hatch out: vote for Clinton.

burfordTjustice writes:
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:35:24 -0500
Moe DeLoughan wrote:

Dave Mikkelson,
founder/owner of snopes.com, knows that he is impartial and insistent
on only looking at facts to the point where it can become maddening,
because He. Never. Takes. Sides.

That is NOT True.

He/they sides with/covers for democrats/liberals/socialist


Only in your diseased mind.

Meanie brought next idea :
On 10/26/2016 9:39 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
01001100110 wrote on 10/26/2016 :
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a
straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes
the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or
you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the
machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for
Clinton by mistake?

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

Snopes people are Democrats.

So? It doesn't mean that they are necessarily wrong.

I looked for other articles about this topic, and found a lot of 'cut
and paste' journalism stuffed with weasel-words. Only then did I decide
to see if Snopes had it covered. Believe what you want to, check for
yourself, and adapt.

burfordTjustice formulated on Wednesday :
On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 10:35:24 -0500
Moe DeLoughan wrote:

Dave Mikkelson,
founder/owner of snopes.com, knows that he is impartial and insistent
on only looking at facts to the point where it can become maddening,
because He. Never. Takes. Sides.

That is NOT True.

He/they sides with/covers for democrats/liberals/socialist

Maybe there are just more lies coming from the right than from the left
so it just *looks* like Snopes is biased?

on 10/26/2016, Meanie supposed :
On 10/26/2016 9:39 AM, FromTheRafters wrote:
01001100110 wrote on 10/26/2016 :
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a
straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes
the vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or
you find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the
machine to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for
Clinton by mistake?

http://www.snopes.com/texas-vote-switching/

BTW, read this about Snopes. I am uncertain what to believe but I no longer
rely on Snopes and prefer to do most of my own checking.

That's what I do, but when I see so many articles referring to one
rumor site and stuffed with additional weasel-words I tend to think
that I'm not the only one who noticed. Nobody should rely on only one
*source*, that's just ridiculous.

[...]

On Wed, 26 Oct 2016 07:28:15 -0700 (PDT), trader_4
wrote:

Also, I was not aware that early voting is done using machines.

Nevada does. Clark county has ~147 polling sites; over a two week
period, from grocery stores, libraries, malls, trailers in parking
lots, etc. I'm sure the machines are secured each evening and the
data is already reported to the elections office.

Not a problem here.

Yawn....

Who cares!!!!

On 10/26/2016 09:28 AM, trader_4 wrote:

[snip]

Must be some very strange ballots they use in TX, where you start out
voting all GOP, then check the box for Trump.

If you've already voted GOP, the Trump box should now be checked. Why
would you press it again (didn't know Trump was republican?)? Perhaps
the machine assumed that when you pressed it again, you meant something
else. Still, it shouldn't do that.

Every ballot I've ever
seen, the presidential candidates are at the top and if you go in a
normal order, you select them first.

That's the way it is here.

Also, I was not aware that early voting is done using machines.
My understanding is that it's done with absentee ballots.

Here (east Texas), early voting is done with touchscreen machines that
are several years old. It can take multiple presses to get one that works.

If it's
done with machines, that sounds really dumb, because you have machines
sitting around capable of being screwed with for a month, instead of
one day with everyone watching.


--
60 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Illegal Error. You are not allowed to get this error, next time you
will be punished."

On 10/25/2016 11:16 PM, 01001100110 wrote:
On the news tonight it showed that when someone starts out voting a
straight Republican ticket, then check the box for Trump, it changes the
vote to Clinton. You have to check your vote before finalizing or you
find you've voted for Clinton.

A woman had to get help, and it took several minutes to get the machine
to accept her vote for Trump.

And people say the machines aren't rigged.

I wonder how many early voters didn't catch it and ended up voting for
Clinton by mistake?

If that's true, there'll be people who vote for Trump my mistake. Unless
democrats don't make as many mistakes.

--
60 days until the winter celebration (Sunday December 25, 2016 12:00:00
AM for 1 day).

Mark Lloyd
http://notstupid.us/

"Illegal Error. You are not allowed to get this error, next time you
will be punished."

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...
On 10/26/2016 07:51 AM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
We prefer marking our paper ballots.

A study has shown 73.2% of the Democratic voters are not familiar with
the use of a pencil. A slightly higher percentage of Republicans know it
is something to chew on.

Independents, however, usually deafen themselves trying to clean their ears
with the pointy end. Some even break on through to the other side.

--
Bobby G.

On 10/26/2016 09:14 PM, Robert Green wrote:

[snip]

A study has shown 73.2% of the Democratic voters are not familiar with
the use of a pencil. A slightly higher percentage of Republicans know it
is something to chew on.

Independents, however, usually deafen themselves trying to clean their ears
with the pointy end. Some even break on through to the other side.


I think a (sharpened) pencil looks like a rocket.