Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?




--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question about
printing photos.

philo wrote in :

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question
about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided not to
do so.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

On 4 Feb 2016 17:44:16 GMT
KenK wrote:

Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?


Follow the vehicle home, beat the snot out
of the driver and tell them to align their lights.

Proceed back on your journey.

On 2/4/2016 10:19 AM, burfordTjustice wrote:
On 4 Feb 2016 17:44:16 GMT
KenK wrote:

Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?


Follow the vehicle home, beat the snot out
of the driver and tell them to align their lights.

Proceed back on your journey.


I think the intended physical violence here should be reported.

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in :

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question
about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided not to
do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

"burfordTjustice" wrote in message ...

On 4 Feb 2016 17:44:16 GMT
KenK wrote:

Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?


Follow the vehicle home, beat the snot out
of the driver and tell them to align their lights.

Proceed back on your journey.

O Yes that is smart advice fallow them home so that you received base
ball bat over you head or better yet some Moron fill you with "Lead"

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600
philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in :

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more
popular, often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to
be finding them more and more disturbing. If this is really a
problem, why are they legal and how did they get popular? Are
they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question
about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided
not to do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

You are completely WRONG!

Per KenK:
I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem,

Devil's Advocate Question: Could age-related loss of eye function be a
player ?

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.
--
Pete Cresswell

On 2016-02-04, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Sucks to be you!

But yes, age is a factor. I'm in my late 60s and do not like to drive
at night. I can and I will, but I know the chances of being in an
accident are greater, so try and make necessary trips in daylight.
IOW, know yer limitations. Duh.

nb

On 2/4/2016 12:12 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per KenK:
I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem,

Devil's Advocate Question: Could age-related loss of eye function be a
player ?

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Changes in the eye are more pronounced as we age.
The lens gets cloudy (eventually, cataracts).
The iris can't respond as quickly.
Other pathologies (e.g., macular degeneration, diabetic retinopathy)
are more prevalent (than in youth).
There is less *available* light in the scene (d'uh... it's DARK!)
There is less RANGE of light intensity in the scene (think: contrast)
"Vision Anomalies" are also more commonplace and pronounced
(things like astigmatism).

My vision (as measured by my "refractive correction"/Rx) hasn't
changed in ~40 years (I've kept records of all my "prescriptions"
over the years -- from more than a dozen opthamologists and
optometrists). But, I see "less well" than I did 40 years ago.

I've always relied on EXCESS light to see well; I can recall
tussling with my college roommate over whether or not to leave
the overhead light on in the "well lit" room during daylight
hours as it made a difference to how well I could perceive fine
detail. (and, my bathrooms have always been lit with an
overabundance of light -- enough to keep the room uncomfortably
warm!)

I've learned to use my *eyes* (and not my brain!) when taking
eye exams as I can too often "reason out" what I am seeing
even though the visual image is ambiguous. This has led to
disappointing Rx's in the past.

[I had one eye doctor (can't recall if opto- or optha-) who
used LARGE images (instead of the ever smaller lines of text)
at a distance and asked which image was "crisper" -- one being
set on a RED background, the other on GREEN. As such, it let
me keep my eyes at rest -- not bring focusing power to bear
(e.g., squinting) to bias the result. Unfortunately, I've never
found another who used the same technique!]

On 02/04/2016 12:44 PM, KenK wrote:

Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?

NOT all (quartz-)halogen. Halogen bulbs have been around for decades and
are not bluish unless... [see later]

HID headlights are more recent and (some, at least) have a *slightly*
bluish tint. As a result, some drivers, wishing to give the impression
that they have these fancy latest-technology, (originally)
high-end-vehicle lights, have adopted blue-tinted halogen bulbs that are
in many cases more blue than HID lights.

If headlights blind oncoming drivers, that is far more likely to be
because of misalignment than because of the particular light-generating
technology that is used.

Some of the most blinding headlights I have encountered recently seem to
be extremely white, not blue at all.

(Every advance in headlight technology seems to have resulted in
complaints about blinding oncoming drivers. It happened with the
transition to HID headlights. Before that it happened with the
transition to quartz-halogen headlights. Before that it happened with
the transition to sealed-beam headlights. Before that it happened with
the transition to systems where the driver's-side headlight remained
illuminated in the "dim" mode instead of leaving only the passenger-side
headlamp illuminated. I wasn't around at the time, but I suspect that
there were similar complaints about the transition from carbide to
electric lights, and even before that from oil lamps to carbide.)

Perce

On 2/4/2016 12:47 PM, Percival P. Cassidy wrote:
On 02/04/2016 12:44 PM, KenK wrote:

Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?

NOT all (quartz-)halogen. Halogen bulbs have been around for decades and are
not bluish unless... [see later]

HID headlights are more recent and (some, at least) have a *slightly* bluish
tint. As a result, some drivers, wishing to give the impression that they have
these fancy latest-technology, (originally) high-end-vehicle lights, have
adopted blue-tinted halogen bulbs that are in many cases more blue than HID
lights.

If headlights blind oncoming drivers, that is far more likely to be because of
misalignment than because of the particular light-generating technology that is
used.

Some of the most blinding headlights I have encountered recently seem to be
extremely white, not blue at all.

(Every advance in headlight technology seems to have resulted in complaints
about blinding oncoming drivers. It happened with the transition to HID
headlights. Before that it happened with the transition to quartz-halogen
headlights. Before that it happened with the transition to sealed-beam
headlights. Before that it happened with the transition to systems where the
driver's-side headlight remained illuminated in the "dim" mode instead of
leaving only the passenger-side headlamp illuminated. I wasn't around at the
time, but I suspect that there were similar complaints about the transition
from carbide to electric lights, and even before that from oil lamps to carbide.)

Exactly. We routinely have folks flashing their brights at us
AS IF our lights were misaligned on our FACTORY NEW vehicle.

After bringing it in to the dealer to *check* said alignment,
we were shown that the lamps are "spot on" -- other drivers
just see *three* bright white "dots" on each side of the
hood ornament and THINK the brights are on. So, when we flash
OUR brights in response (and they see *5* white dots on each side,
two of which are aimed higher than the other three) they realize
the error is theirs.

There also seems to be some tie-in to the height of the lamps above the
pavement -- and proximity to oncoming cars. Headlights target a fixed
point some 100 feet from the vehicle. So, headlights on a "tall",
oncoming vehicle closer than that have more spillage into the oncoming
driver's field of vision.

[The lights on our new vehicle are almost a foot "higher" than on our
older vehicle. The lights on my buddy's pickup are higher, still!]

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?


More than you probably wanted to know...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...e/bad/bad.html

On 4 Feb 2016 17:44:16 GMT, KenK wrote:

Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?

I hate those fu####g blue headlights.....
I have gone so far as to complain to the D.O.T.
When they were first coming into the market, I had a car behind me with
them, and he either had loose bulbs or very bad shocks. That made it
look like a police car was pulling me over. I pulled over only to
realize it was some asshole with blue headlights....

I have also seen similar bulbs in pink and green tints. (Not much
better).

I know my eyes are not what they used to be, but those blue bulbs are
terrible. Yet the worst of all, was when I had just reached the top of a
hill, and some pickup truck had white headlights AND fog lights at the
same time, and apparently had his brights on too. I literally could not
see anything, and that part of the road has a sharp curve. If it was not
for the fact that I know that road, I may have ended up in the ditch. I
still slammed on the brakes, because I could not see anything at all.
Since I was nearly stopped at that point, I called 911, and told them
the location and what happened. Whether anything happend, I dont know,
but they said they check into it.

On 2/4/2016 12:44 PM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?




Blueish ones are aftermarket stuff. Factory are a white color. Kids
seem to like the blue. Personally, I really like the white light as
things look brighter. My interior lights are LED, even my new
refrigerator is nice bright white when y ou open the door..

On 2/4/2016 2:34 PM, notbob wrote:
On 2016-02-04, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Sucks to be you!

But yes, age is a factor. I'm in my late 60s and do not like to drive
at night. I can and I will, but I know the chances of being in an
accident are greater, so try and make necessary trips in daylight.
IOW, know yer limitations. Duh.

nb


I'm 70 and have no problem if I'm the only car on the road. Add a lot
of other oncoming cars and it is getting more difficult. Add rain and
I'd rather not drive at night. Never bothered me when I was 20.

On 2/4/2016 2:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I'm 70 and have no problem if I'm the only car on the road. Add a lot of other
oncoming cars and it is getting more difficult. Add rain and I'd rather not
drive at night. Never bothered me when I was 20.

"Night" doesn't bother me as much as "twilight" -- the time between when
my "day vision" (color) fades and "night vision" (mono) kicks in. Heaven
help a guy on the roadside with a recumbent bicycle!! :-/

KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?




Strictly speaking those after market lights are mostly illegal. There
are other things too like driving without lights after sun down,
broken headlight, tail light, loud noisy cars, not flashing when
turning, changing lane, etc.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600, philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in :

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question
about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided not to
do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal
Blue-white headlights are either HID or LED. OEM stuff isn't too bad
- although they CAN be irritating. Virtually all "aftermarket
conversions" are both illegal and terribly irritating

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:44:06 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600
philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in :

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more
popular, often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to
be finding them more and more disturbing. If this is really a
problem, why are they legal and how did they get popular? Are
they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question
about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided
not to do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

You are completely WRONG!
A totally unqualified answer with hardly a shred of truth to it.

As usual from BTJ.

On 4 Feb 2016 19:34:31 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2016-02-04, (PeteCresswell) wrote:

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Sucks to be you!

But yes, age is a factor. I'm in my late 60s and do not like to drive
at night. I can and I will, but I know the chances of being in an
accident are greater, so try and make necessary trips in daylight.
IOW, know yer limitations. Duh.

nb
Cateracts will do that to ya.

(PeteCresswell) posted for all of us...



Per KenK:
I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem,

Devil's Advocate Question: Could age-related loss of eye function be a
player ?

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Yes. Do you have cataracts or any other eye problems?

--
Tekkie

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:43:16 -0500
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:44:06 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600
philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in
:

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more
popular, often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to
be finding them more and more disturbing. If this is really a
problem, why are they legal and how did they get popular? Are
they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous
question about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided
not to do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

You are completely WRONG!
A totally unqualified answer with hardly a shred of truth to it.

As usual from BTJ.

Are you also saying "I suspect they are not even legal"

if so then you are wrong also.

Tekkie® wrote:
(PeteCresswell) posted for all of us...



Per KenK:
I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem,

Devil's Advocate Question: Could age-related loss of eye function be a
player ?

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Yes. Do you have cataracts or any other eye problems?

Macular degeneration?

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:52:32 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:43:16 -0500
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:44:06 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600
philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in
:

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more
popular, often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to
be finding them more and more disturbing. If this is really a
problem, why are they legal and how did they get popular? Are
they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous
question about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided
not to do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

You are completely WRONG!
A totally unqualified answer with hardly a shred of truth to it.

As usual from BTJ.

Are you also saying "I suspect they are not even legal"

if so then you are wrong also.
No I am not. I gave the explanation for my opinion - I said exactly
which ones WERE legal, and which ones were definitely not. I left out
the "questionable" ones like "silver star" replacement halogen bulbs -
which are sold in North America with "for off-road use only" on the
box.

Any light with a color temperature over 4200K is illegal by
definition.

On 2/4/2016 2:43 PM, wrote:
On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:44:06 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600
philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in :

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more
popular, often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to
be finding them more and more disturbing. If this is really a
problem, why are they legal and how did they get popular? Are
they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous question
about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I decided
not to do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it sounds
annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

You are completely WRONG!
A totally unqualified answer with hardly a shred of truth to it.

As usual from BTJ.

Hmmm... BTJ's upstream post has been filtered on my server.
I suspect that's a nym-shifter indication...

On 02/04/2016 02:28 PM, Don Y wrote:
"Night" doesn't bother me as much as "twilight" -- the time between when
my "day vision" (color) fades and "night vision" (mono) kicks in. Heaven
help a guy on the roadside with a recumbent bicycle!! :-/

The city uses low pressure sodium on some streets, spaced out pretty
far. Add in pedestrians with dark clothing and it gets interesting.

There is a law bicycles have to have lighting. Sometimes I think that's
counterproductive. On dark roads with no traffic I find I fix on the
blinking LED. Like motorcycles, you go where you're looking.

On 2/4/2016 7:20 PM, rbowman wrote:
On 02/04/2016 02:28 PM, Don Y wrote:
"Night" doesn't bother me as much as "twilight" -- the time between when
my "day vision" (color) fades and "night vision" (mono) kicks in. Heaven
help a guy on the roadside with a recumbent bicycle!! :-/

The city uses low pressure sodium on some streets, spaced out pretty far. Add
in pedestrians with dark clothing and it gets interesting.

Lots of Astronomy, here. So, city discourages "light polution".
Most neighborhoods have no "street lights". During a New Moon
(or before moonrise/after moonset) most neighborhoods are *black*.

There is a law bicycles have to have lighting. Sometimes I think that's
counterproductive. On dark roads with no traffic I find I fix on the blinking
LED. Like motorcycles, you go where you're looking.

I don't know what cyclists are required to have by way of safety equipment,
here. We have a large, internationally recognized bike race here each year
so you frequently encounter large groups of cyclists "training" together
(and is spandex a PREREQUISITE for riding a bicycle??).

Being "bike friendly", lots of cyclists on the roads -- along with lots
of unusual bike configurations. The smart ones put a flag or some other
attention getter on them so you can see them hiding behind an adjacent
vehicle, etc.

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 14:38:33 -0700, Tony Hwang wrote:

KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?




Strictly speaking those after market lights are mostly illegal. There
are other things too like driving without lights after sun down,
broken headlight, tail light, loud noisy cars, not flashing when
turning, changing lane, etc.

If the blue lights are illegal, there sure a lot of people who are NOT
being pulled over for having them.

I mentioned in another reply, about someone having green headlights. He
was driving around town last summer with them. They looked like the
headlighs on that old "Green Hornet" tv series. That same night, the
cops did pull him over. I'm not sure if it was because of the lights,
but I bet it was. That was the last time I saw those green lights too.
So either he was made to change them, or else he was not from town.

Another oddball thing are these kids who have lights under their cars
that make the road glow. (Usually purple). I never understood why anyone
would spend money on something like that. They are not annoying though,
but they sure make no sense. I doubt any of them survive winter, or
maybe they remove them before the snow comes??? I always wondered if
those were legal?

Don Y wrote: "There also seems to be some tie-in to the height of the lamps above the
pavement -- and proximity to oncoming cars. Headlights target a fixed
point some 100 feet from the vehicle. So, headlights on a "tall",
oncoming vehicle closer than that have more spillage into the oncoming "

I'm sure tire pressures - especially front/rear
difference - can have an impact a quarter mile
out and closing. If the front tires are even a
couple psi higher relative to the rears, the front
of the vehicle might be 1/8" to 1/4" higher,
corresponding to the regular beams being
a foot or more higher several hundred feet
out.

IE, if a vehicle specifies PSI 34f 32r, and
they measure 36F 32r, or, 34f 30r, that
front will be angled up slightly, giving
oncoming drivers the impression your high
beams are on.

-(K-ManDucks to evade all the Archie
deBunkers!)

thekma @ shortbus.edu wrote in message
...
I'm sure tire pressures ... FLUSH

You're just desperate to have somebody take the bait, so you can wax
moronic about how you supposedly know all there is to know about tire
pressure, and that makes you smarter than everyone else. But, in fact,
you're just a dumb **** with an obsession with tire pressure, and
you'll take any opportunity to change the subject to any of your
idiotic hobbyhorses. FCKWAFA. AADFTOC.

On 2/5/2016 5:06 AM, wrote:

If the blue lights are illegal, there sure a lot of people who are NOT
being pulled over for having them.

I mentioned in another reply, about someone having green headlights. He
was driving around town last summer with them. They looked like the
headlighs on that old "Green Hornet" tv series. That same night, the
cops did pull him over. I'm not sure if it was because of the lights,
but I bet it was. That was the last time I saw those green lights too.
So either he was made to change them, or else he was not from town.

To be more specific-----
Some of the aftermarket headlights are a bluish cast. You can still
tell they are headlights though, just with a tint from the color
spectrum of the bulb.

True blue lights are for emergency vehicles such as firemen. Green
lights are for medical personnel. That may vary in other states. Cops
are quick to pull you over for things like that.


Another oddball thing are these kids who have lights under their cars
that make the road glow. (Usually purple). I never understood why anyone
would spend money on something like that. They are not annoying though,
but they sure make no sense.

They make the same sense as the goofy hats, T-shirts hair styles kids
wear. In our day we used to "nose and deck" a car by removing the
chrome and filling the holes, put Buick taillight lenses on a Chevy and
have baby moon hubcaps.

"(PeteCresswell)" wrote in
:

Devil's Advocate Question: Could age-related loss of eye function be a
player ?



Quite possible. I have laser operations in both eyes scheduled for the next
few weeks for the common post-cataract-operation-result of a clouded lens
capsule, to cut a hole in it with the laser so light can reach the retina.
This is said to cause glare problems along with many others.


--
You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

Don Y wrote in
:

On 2/4/2016 2:02 PM, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

I'm 70 and have no problem if I'm the only car on the road. Add a
lot of other oncoming cars and it is getting more difficult. Add
rain and I'd rather not drive at night. Never bothered me when I was
20.

"Night" doesn't bother me as much as "twilight" -- the time between
when my "day vision" (color) fades and "night vision" (mono) kicks in.
Heaven help a guy on the roadside with a recumbent bicycle!! :-/


And all the idiots driving with no lights on!


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You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

=?iso-8859-15?Q?Tekkie=AE?= wrote in
:

(PeteCresswell) posted for all of us...



Per KenK:
I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem,

Devil's Advocate Question: Could age-related loss of eye function be a
player ?

I flat-out do not drive at night - and I even avoid driving late in
the
afternoon because there's something badly missing in my night vision.
Can't put my finger on it.... technically, I think I *see* things, but
it's just not the same as in daylight.... part of it is peripheral
vision, part of it is speed/distance judgment, but there is lots more
and I'll check into a motel rather than drive home if I get caught
down
the shore when the daylight window for the trip home has closed.

Yes. Do you have cataracts or any other eye problems?


Mentioned in my response to another message,


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On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 17:12:26 -0500
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 16:52:32 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 04 Feb 2016 16:43:16 -0500
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 13:44:06 -0500, burfordTjustice
wrote:

On Thu, 4 Feb 2016 12:27:38 -0600
philo wrote:

On 02/04/2016 12:13 PM, KenK wrote:
philo wrote in
:

On 02/04/2016 11:44 AM, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more
popular, often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I
seem to be finding them more and more disturbing. If this
is really a problem, why are they legal and how did they
get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using
them?

Comments?







You never responded to any of the posts for your previous
question about printing photos.


The responses told me the photo file I had received lacked the
information needed to enlarge it without distortion so I
decided not to do so.





OK, as to the blue headlights, I have not seen any but it
sounds annoying...I suspect they are not even legal

You are completely WRONG!
A totally unqualified answer with hardly a shred of truth to it.

As usual from BTJ.

Are you also saying "I suspect they are not even legal"

if so then you are wrong also.
No I am not. I gave the explanation for my opinion - I said exactly
which ones WERE legal, and which ones were definitely not. I left out
the "questionable" ones like "silver star" replacement halogen bulbs -
which are sold in North America with "for off-road use only" on the
box.

Any light with a color temperature over 4200K is illegal by
definition.

Do try not to far during your back pedal..

DerbyDad03 wrote in
:

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 12:44:21 PM UTC-5, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular,
often blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding
them more and more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are
they legal and how did they get popular? Are they that effective for
the driver using them?

Comments?


More than you probably wanted to know...

http://www.danielsternlighting.com/t...e/bad/bad.html


Glanced at it. Looks interesting. Printed it out, as I usually do, to
read carefully later. Thank you.


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You know it's time to clean the refrigerator
when something closes the door from the inside.

On Thursday, February 4, 2016 at 11:44:21 AM UTC-6, KenK wrote:
Do those blue (halogen?) headlights, getting more and more popular, often
blind you from an approaching vehicle? I seem to be finding them more and
more disturbing. If this is really a problem, why are they legal and how
did they get popular? Are they that effective for the driver using them?

Comments?



I had same problem.

I got some yellow tinted night time glasses that reduce the glare.

Auto makers have no business putting aircraft lights on vehicles.

:-)

Andy

Per notbob:

But yes, age is a factor. I'm in my late 60s and do not like to drive
at night. I can and I will, but I know the chances of being in an
accident are greater, so try and make necessary trips in daylight.
IOW, know yer limitations. Duh.

With my situation, it's way beyond anything I can consciously compensate
for. You just would not want to be anywhere nearby when/if I were
foolish enough to try driving at night.

Cannot cite, but somewhere I read that commercial airplane accidents
when landing were 10x more frequent after dark.
--
Pete Cresswell