On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:53:42 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


wrote in message
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I've never owned any foreign made vehicles. All have been from the big
three American companies. I prefer GM vehicles and that is all I buy
now.
Couldn'g give me another "current" gm. With the possible exception of
a Volt.

Funny how different people have different luck with the vehicles. I hae
never had much luck with any of the 3 American brands, but good luck with a
Datsun and several Toyotas.

I'd be driving Toyotas if I could buy them used for anywhere close to
what I pay for my Fords. I haven't paid over $6500 for a vehicle in
the last 20+ years, and I generally own them for more than 6 years (as
much as 12) and with the excepption of the Pontiac and the Mystique I
sell them to willing buyers when I'm done.

On 12/6/2015 8:23 PM, (PeteCresswell) wrote:
Per Stormin Mormon:
Sounds like $46.50 spent on a good idea, but
not going to get much use from it. Sorry.

It's quite useful for my Honda gennies - both for draining fuel from the
tanks and pulling oil from the crankcases. Convenience of oil change
is not a strong point of Honda generators....


Didn't know that. But then, I've never owned a
Honda generator. Who knows? Maybe I'll need
such a vacuum pump some day.

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On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:53:42 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


wrote in message
.. .
I've never owned any foreign made vehicles. All have been from the big
three American companies. I prefer GM vehicles and that is all I buy
now.
Couldn'g give me another "current" gm. With the possible exception of
a Volt.

Funny how different people have different luck with the vehicles. I hae
never had much luck with any of the 3 American brands, but good luck with a
Datsun and several Toyotas.


Yea, I fully agree with the "different luck". I know a lot of people
swear by Fords. Yet, every Ford I have ever owned (Car or Truck), has
been a lemon. Constantly leaving me stranded, constant repairs, and one
of them burned up on me, while another had a wiring harness meltdown. I
have had excellent luck with GM vehicles. I just retired a 30 year old
Chevy car because the auto tranny was slipping and the frame was getting
real bad. Yet the engine still ran great. I have had a few Chrysler made
cars, and they were fair, but I just buy all GM now.

I dont try to convince anyone what to buy, I just buy what works best
for me. I know a guy who spent a fortune on a Toyota after the engine
blew. A year later the replacement engine blew..... Foreign car parts
are very costly. which is the main reason I avoid them.

On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:06:27 -0800, Eagle no@not now.ever wrote:

before I reinstall it. If I have to buy a new tank, I'll probably spray
it with undercoating too.

I'm just saying I would replace the tank ASAP if I had to 'fix' it. It
would be cheaper if not safer IMO.

I dont know how you figure it would be cheaper to replace the tank. A
tank costs close to $150. A tube of JB Weld costs $5.

But yes, I do plan to fix it soon. It's not safe and it's costing me
money for lost gas, even though I dont think I'm losing much. The hole
is probably on the top or upper side, and splashing makes small amounts
leak. There are no actual drips. I only smell the gas odor after I drive
it. If it's parked overnight, there is no odor. I've been keeping the
gas level at no more than a quarter of a tank, and I carry a 5 gallon
container of gas in case I run low, bcause in this rural area, a person
may have to drive 25 miles to find a gas station, and it's even worse at
night, because a lot of small town gas stations close at 9 or 10pm or
midnight.

formulated on Monday :
On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 11:06:27 -0800, Eagle no@not now.ever wrote:

before I reinstall it. If I have to buy a new tank, I'll probably spray
it with undercoating too.

I'm just saying I would replace the tank ASAP if I had to 'fix' it. It
would be cheaper if not safer IMO.

I dont know how you figure it would be cheaper to replace the tank. A
tank costs close to $150. A tube of JB Weld costs $5.

But yes, I do plan to fix it soon. It's not safe and it's costing me
money for lost gas, even though I dont think I'm losing much. The hole
is probably on the top or upper side, and splashing makes small amounts
leak. There are no actual drips. I only smell the gas odor after I drive
it. If it's parked overnight, there is no odor. I've been keeping the
gas level at no more than a quarter of a tank, and I carry a 5 gallon
container of gas in case I run low, bcause in this rural area, a person
may have to drive 25 miles to find a gas station, and it's even worse at
night, because a lot of small town gas stations close at 9 or 10pm or
midnight.

I'm just saying I would replace it, you can JB weld the leak and get a
few more months of use out of it, and either replace it, or get a new
ride, yes? Without going back to see what you're driving, what are you
driving?

On 12/7/2015 2:00 PM, wrote:

I've never owned any foreign made vehicles. All have been from the big
three American companies. I prefer GM vehicles and that is all I buy
now.


Do you like spending time at the dealer getting it fixed?
I bought GM cars for decades. Every one of them had defects and needed
warranty work. Last time they screwed me and I won't touch a GM car..

I bought a Hyundai and it was perfect for 70,000 miles so I bought
another and it was perfect for 70,000 miles so I bought another and it
had a minor problem at 57,000 miles (GM would be long out of warranty)
and traded that at 70,000 miles too. So far, my Genesis Ultra is
perfect so far too.

On 12/7/2015 6:55 PM, wrote:


.. Foreign car parts
are very costly. which is the main reason I avoid them.



You were right 30 years ago. Today they are no more than any other
brand of mainstream cars.

On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 17:55:05 -0600, wrote:

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 16:53:42 -0500, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote:


wrote in message
. ..
I've never owned any foreign made vehicles. All have been from the big
three American companies. I prefer GM vehicles and that is all I buy
now.
Couldn'g give me another "current" gm. With the possible exception of
a Volt.

Funny how different people have different luck with the vehicles. I hae
never had much luck with any of the 3 American brands, but good luck with a
Datsun and several Toyotas.


Yea, I fully agree with the "different luck". I know a lot of people
swear by Fords. Yet, every Ford I have ever owned (Car or Truck), has
been a lemon. Constantly leaving me stranded, constant repairs, and one
of them burned up on me, while another had a wiring harness meltdown. I
have had excellent luck with GM vehicles. I just retired a 30 year old
Chevy car because the auto tranny was slipping and the frame was getting
real bad. Yet the engine still ran great. I have had a few Chrysler made
cars, and they were fair, but I just buy all GM now.

I dont try to convince anyone what to buy, I just buy what works best
for me. I know a guy who spent a fortune on a Toyota after the engine
blew. A year later the replacement engine blew..... Foreign car parts
are very costly. which is the main reason I avoid them.

Aftermarket Japanese parts are expensive and not plentiful. The
factory parts are not nearly as bad, generally speaking.
German parts can be a totally different story.

When I was driving Toyotas I didn't need to buy parts because they
didn't break down. At 455,000KM I replaced the timing belt and clutch
on my '81 Tercel because I was going on a trip down into the USA and I
didn't want to get stuck. When I pulled the clutch there was well over
half lining left, but I replaced it because I already had the car
apart to check it.
The '80 Corolla needed the starter contacts replaced and some body
work done on it - other than that I did nothing to it repair-wize in
the 7 or so years I owned it and it was 5? years old when I bought it.

On my 90 Aerostar I had no issues other than some rust before I sold
it (after Ford replaced the engine under warranty because of a nasty
piston slap pretty well from new. I sold it to a friend who got it up
over 250,000 with no major issues. My '91 had some transmission
problems before I sold it at 244,000km, but I towed a 17 foot trailer
across Canada and the US with it, as well as a lot of other towing
around Ontario. (Blown front pump seal, blown accumulator seal, and a
twisted quill shaft - ) My 16 year old Ranger is 100% original except
for front brakes, clutch,(release cyl failed) and "U" joints.at
338,000km. - Oh - the driver's door handle broke and had to be
replaced too.
My wife's 2003 Taurus is all original except the driver's door "ajar"
switch and the module for the anti-theft key sensor.
Her old 1995 Mystique had the A/C reciever drier, an engine vacuum
hose, a transmission mount, and lower control arm bushings go bad on
it in 15 years, as well as about half a dozen electrical connections -
heater switch, brake lights, and door power stuff. It also had some
rust issues.(including brake lines)
When we scrapped it, it needed brakes and I think a wheel bearing, but
otherwize was mechanically very good - still went like a scalded cat
and handled like it was on rails - and didn't burn any oil.

In contrast, my 1995 Pontiac TransSport had a complete rebuilt engine
put in when I bought it - the transmission went out less than a year
later - and even being a 3.8 liter engine it could not handle the
little travel trailer the 3.0 liter Aerostar dragged around like it
wasn't there. The factory rebuilt (AC DELCO ) engine grenaded in less
than 100,000km. It ate Oxygen sensors, and every time I turned around
it was costing me %50-$200 for something "small" that had gone bad..
Generally, even if I hadn't had to spend a cent on it, it was a
constant source of aggravation, and I was never confident it would get
me where I was going and back home without trouble.
Stupid things like running out of gas at 1/4 tank if I hit a rough
patch of road and I'd have to "burp" the injector log to let the air
out.. Or having the same thing happen coming up a highway exit ramp
at speed.. - Or it going into "limp mode" and the CEL coming on while
driving down the highway -lean running code. Reset the CEL and on your
way - no problem - for anything from 2 hours to 6 months. (turned out
to be bad O2 sensors - went through at least 4 - all GM AC DELCO
parts. I drove it to Sun-N-Fun in Lakeland Florida and back - thought
I was going to leave it at the side of the road a couple times.

Then the steel under the plastic body rusted away and cost me almost
$1000 to fix it

I tried REAL HARD to like that van. Just couldn't. Mercifully the
engine grenaded one night when my daughter was driving it - put it out
of it's (and my) miserey.

On Mon, 7 Dec 2015 20:13:08 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:

On 12/7/2015 2:00 PM, wrote:

I've never owned any foreign made vehicles. All have been from the big
three American companies. I prefer GM vehicles and that is all I buy
now.


Do you like spending time at the dealer getting it fixed?
I bought GM cars for decades. Every one of them had defects and needed
warranty work. Last time they screwed me and I won't touch a GM car..

I bought a Hyundai and it was perfect for 70,000 miles so I bought
another and it was perfect for 70,000 miles so I bought another and it
had a minor problem at 57,000 miles (GM would be long out of warranty)
and traded that at 70,000 miles too. So far, my Genesis Ultra is
perfect so far too.
One (computer) customer of mine always drove Caddilacs. Escalates,
Whatever their sporty utilty /crossover was called, a CTX, and an
STS?. Anyway, one year he went through 4 of them. Bought one - it
spent 2 montha at the dealership fir every week he had it at home, so
he told the dealer to stuff it and took a different one home. Same
situation. Shake and repete. After the forth one he told the dealer
principal he would never bother him again - just PLEASE take the
damned Caddilac off his hands. He bought a lexus and hasn't looked
back.
Another customer,s Caddilac knew where every Caddy dealer was between
Kitchener Ontario and Marco Island Florida.. Every triop down or back
it found at least one. His new wife had a little lincoln, so they
started driving it to florida and HE got rid of the caddy and bought a
Lexus.
Another friend had a lexus for himself (replacing an old BMW
Stretch)) and a Caddy for his wife. He was a Univ of Michigan alumnist
and went down for as many football games as he could. The Caddy knew
all the dealerships from Waterloo to Ann Arbout - and none of them
could solve the problem of the ass end jacking itself up 2 feet when
driving down the highway ("automatic Leveling system" - the darn thing
thought it was a low-rider. He traded it on another Lexus, which he
later traded on a new Avalon - which he traded for another lexus
because he didn't like the radio on the Avalon (yes - he had money)

When he stopped driving at 93 there were 2 lexus sedans in the garage.

On Mon, 07 Dec 2015 16:32:04 -0800, Eagle no@not now.ever wrote:


But yes, I do plan to fix it soon. It's not safe and it's costing me
money for lost gas, even though I dont think I'm losing much. The hole
is probably on the top or upper side, and splashing makes small amounts
leak. There are no actual drips. I only smell the gas odor after I drive
it. If it's parked overnight, there is no odor. I've been keeping the
gas level at no more than a quarter of a tank, and I carry a 5 gallon
container of gas in case I run low, bcause in this rural area, a person
may have to drive 25 miles to find a gas station, and it's even worse at
night, because a lot of small town gas stations close at 9 or 10pm or
midnight.

I'm just saying I would replace it, you can JB weld the leak and get a
few more months of use out of it, and either replace it, or get a new
ride, yes? Without going back to see what you're driving, what are you
driving?

Like I said before, I have had JB Weld hold for years. But it depends on
how bad the leak is and how the rest of the tank looks. If it's all
pitted, I'll replace it, because it will soon leak elsewhere. But the JB
Weld spot wont leak, I know that from experience.

It's a 95 Chevy 3/4 ton pickup. It's in good shape for it's age. Aside
from brakes, tires, belts, battery, filters and a new radiator, it been
trouble free. And I had to replace the blower motor and fix the wiring
to that blower too. It recently needed a tuneup, cuz the dist cap was
cracked, but all of that is normal wear and tear. At the same time, I
wont keep it forever, so if I can fix the tank, I will.

The only thing I did not like about this truck are those damn side
mirrors on the doors. Three times they have broken off, just because
someone walked against them. I finally rigged up some generic mirrors
that have SOLID mounting, not cheap assed pot metal. And, the rear
bumpers all rust out. I was forced to replace mine after I jackknifed a
hay wagon and destroyed what was left to that rusty thing. I found a
solid used one on Craigslist, from a newer model. But I had to modify
the brackets a bit.

Per Ed Pawlowski:
Do you like spending time at the dealer getting it fixed?
I bought GM cars for decades. Every one of them had defects and needed
warranty work. Last time they screwed me and I won't touch a GM car..

I had a '98 Suburban where there was some built-in flaw in the automatic
transmission that required major repair about every 60k miles.

First one was on GM, next one was on me - but I had them do it right and
bore out the affected cylinder and put in a sleeve.

The joker is that GM had known about the defect for something like 10
years but apparently the bean counters were running the company and it
was cheaper not to remedy it.

Somewhere I read that American car companies tend to be run by business
people while Japanese car companies tend to be run by engineers.... If
that is true, it explains a few things.
--
Pete Cresswell

On Tue, 08 Dec 2015 10:03:52 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote:

Per Ed Pawlowski:
Do you like spending time at the dealer getting it fixed?
I bought GM cars for decades. Every one of them had defects and needed
warranty work. Last time they screwed me and I won't touch a GM car..

I had a '98 Suburban where there was some built-in flaw in the automatic
transmission that required major repair about every 60k miles.

First one was on GM, next one was on me - but I had them do it right and
bore out the affected cylinder and put in a sleeve.

The joker is that GM had known about the defect for something like 10
years but apparently the bean counters were running the company and it
was cheaper not to remedy it.

Somewhere I read that American car companies tend to be run by business
people while Japanese car companies tend to be run by engineers.... If
that is true, it explains a few things.
That's why I won't own another GM. They knew about the EGR problem
on the 3.8 for 15 years too and never fixed it. ANd the ignition
switch issue. GM is North America's VW.