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On 12/1/2015 9:27 AM, Pat wrote:
On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 09:06:51 -0500, Stormin Mormon My Mom used to tell me about "depression babies". These are the people born right after TGD, and still are greatly affected by it. Might be the case with the 80 y.o. shoppers. My Mom was in her late teens during the depression and was responsible for her younger brothers and sisters due to her parents both passing away young. I can still remember driving her around to various grocery stores in the 80's so she could save 3 cents on a can of green beans or whatever was on sale. We easily spent more on gas going to 3 or 4 stores than the savings, but she couldn't help it. My Mom commented on people who drove across town to save ten cents on a bag of potato chips. Same concept. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 09:27:09 -0500, Pat wrote:
My Mom was in her late teens during the depression and was responsible for her younger brothers and sisters due to her parents both passing away young. I can still remember driving her around to various grocery stores in the 80's so she could save 3 cents on a can of green beans or whatever was on sale. We easily spent more on gas going to 3 or 4 stores than the savings, but she couldn't help it. I can sure relate to this. Before my mom passed away, I had to do the same thing. Not only did it cost me for gas, but it wasted a lot of my time. More than once, I told her that "I'll pay the extra 3 cents, OR you'll have to pay for $10 worth of gas for my car". Then she would act as it it was the end of the world to pay that 3 cents, grab the beans, and say "you dont have to pay the 3 cents"..... She always offerred me gas money anyhow, but it was not the money as much as it was my time, since I often was losing money because I had jobs to do, rather than spend half a day doing grocery shopping.... (which I always found to be very boring too). But now that mom is gone, I'd give almost anything to go shopping with her one more time, and let her waste as much time and gas as she wanted........ (: |
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(PeteCresswell) posted for all of us...
Per Tekkie®: Just today I witnessed an ambulance blow two red lights on a main thoroughfare.... no siren in this case, no lights.... just relying on some new system they have in place that turns the light suddenly green for the emergency vehicle - only fly in the ointment was the lights did not turn green until *after* the vehicle had blown through them. It's called traffic preemption. There is a acknowledgment sent back to the EV that the signal is giving them the green. Seems like one of those things that sounds good in a sales presentation, but may not work so well in practice. The EMS driver is relying on oncoming traffic to heed a red light that suddenly appears with no yellow light, no warning whatsoever... just "Blink !" and it's red.... and, in the case I witnessed, the EMS driver is even proceeded through the light *before* it turned green for him. The signals cycle through yellow to red. I wasn't there but EMS units are req'd to stop at red lights. Gotta get there to help, even on the hot calls.. -- Tekkie |
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Per Tekkie®:
The signals cycle through yellow to red. I wasn't there but EMS units are req'd to stop at red lights. Gotta get there to help, even on the hot calls. This unit did not stop and the light did not change until they had passed through it. Period.... Couldn't see the lights on the other side, so I do not know if they cycled through yellow - but the change seemed improbably rapid for the conventional Green-Yellow-Red cycle around here - that is what prompted my speculation as to what traffic coming into that green light was to do when it flicked to red so rapidly - with or without some token yellow. As a frequent bike rider, I suspect I see more apparently-unsafe activity than most people driving motor vehicles around here do.... and I will try to look more closely/carefully next time I see an EMS unit coming my way into a red light. -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 15:31:07 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote: Per Tekkie®: The signals cycle through yellow to red. I wasn't there but EMS units are req'd to stop at red lights. Gotta get there to help, even on the hot calls. This unit did not stop and the light did not change until they had passed through it. Period.... Couldn't see the lights on the other side, so I do not know if they cycled through yellow - but the change seemed improbably rapid for the conventional Green-Yellow-Red cycle around here - that is what prompted my speculation as to what traffic coming into that green light was to do when it flicked to red so rapidly - with or without some token yellow. As a frequent bike rider, I suspect I see more apparently-unsafe activity than most people driving motor vehicles around here do.... and I will try to look more closely/carefully next time I see an EMS unit coming my way into a red light. Several years ago, in a small local town, I pulled up to a red light and sat there for over 10 minutes waiting for it to change to green. I intended to turn left. It was late at night with no traffic. But I knew if I went thru it, there would probably be some cop waiting to pull me over. I finally backed up, got in the right lane, made a legal right turn on red, drove a few blocks up the road, turned around in a parking lot, and proceeded to go in my intended direction. The next day I called the police station and told them the problem. I was told that the town's electrician has tried to fix it but it appears the problem is underground and since it's winter, they can not dig it up until Spring. I suggested they turn those lights into flashing lights, or just shut them off and put stop signs on the posts until spring, or at least put some sort of sign that says "This light is broken". I was told to just treat them like a stop sign, come to a stop, check for traffic, and proceed to go when it's safe. I said OK, but what do I do if I get pulled over for running a red light. He said that they are not pulling people over at that light as long as people stop and check for traffic before going. I explained that I did not live in that town and did not know what I should do. He said sorry, we will fix it as soon as weather allows. He said they have gotten a lot of calls about that light. I replied "I bet you have". That Spring they did dig up near those lights and got them working properly. Until then, I did what they told me to do. I wonder how many other non-residents sat at that light cussing for 10 minutes or more??? I know that in a big city, this would have been attended to quickly, even if it meant replacing them with stop signs until the repair was completed..... |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 09:06:51 -0500, Stormin Mormon
wrote: On 12/1/2015 9:00 AM, Pat wrote: On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 07:36:21 -0500, Stormin Mormon Ask them some day if they want to tell you about The Great Depression. I bet they remember it like yesterday, but can't remember yesterday due to depression. Life moves on. 80 year olds can't remember the great depression because they weren't born yet. Someone has to be in their 90's to remember it (assuming people don't remember much before age 5). Only people over 100 are likely to have been a head of household trying to survive during the great depression. My Mom used to tell me about "depression babies". These are the people born right after TGD, and still are greatly affected by it. Might be the case with the 80 y.o. shoppers. You didn't need to live through the great depression to have that mentality pownded into you. My mother, born in 1928, was the oldest of 14 kids who grew up on a farm with parents who DID live through the depression - and were not wealthy, and extremely thrifty. She grew up knowing the value not only of a dollar but a dime and a penny too. My Dad grew up as one of 7 - also on the farm, in the same time period -and roughly the same circumstances. He also knew the value of a dime and a penny. As they started their life together, money was still a scarce commodity as he worked other peoples farms, then moved to town and learned a trade. I remember what it was like growing up "working poor" - many times not knowing where the next meal was goming from - and some years without the help of church people there would have been no Christmas. Dad worked his way out of that situation and in his later years lived a comfortable life - but don't think that didn't leave an impression on (in particular) the oldest 3 of our family. I still hate to see anything wasted, and can therefor live on a lot less than many of my friends and associates. |
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On 11/30/2015 6:17 PM, Frank wrote:
Cop in an unmarked van came up behind my wife and was tailgating her so she sped up to increase the distance to find out it was a cop and get a speeding ticket. She was too embarrassed to tell me and paid it. Had I known, I would have fought it. Some cops, like thieves, are often lazy and look for easy ways to make money. And sometimes they're riding your bumper while they're using a plate reader or calling in the plate number to see if there are any open warrants or other reasons to make a stop. Once you've checked out okay, they usually back off. |
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On 11/30/2015 9:03 PM, bob haller wrote:
I took a elderly 80 years old couple shopping. but quit when the west view cops gave me a hard time because in snowey weather they complained and threatened to give me a ticket because i dropped them near the grocery stores door the couple wouldnt go to the mayor so i told them to find another way. everywhere else the cops watch old people being dropped off by the door, and its no problem. my old friends are millionaires, but hate spending money on food. they still use a wringer washer, have no microwave, no cable, no internet, since they charge every month. they will go thru 30 coffee cakes to pick out the biggest one heck they put buiilion cubes on hamburger helper.... to not buy meat That's the thing that drives me crazy about people with money - they are so goddamned cheap. Yes, that's how they got their money, but this is a good example - they scrimped and saved all their lives, and for what? They can't take it with them. It's past time to treat themselves well for whatever time they have left. One of my sisters happens to be friends with several very wealthy couples. My sister and her husband (blue collar) pay their own way to fly down to visit these people at their vacation homes, where their "friends" put them to work around their property so they don't have to hire help. Yet they'd never consider even paying them for their airfare, much less paying them for their work. My sister was going to go on a cruise this winter with a couple of her millionaire lady friends, but then was suddenly laid off. She told them she couldn't go after all, since she'd just lost her job. They have done nothing but bitch and moan about how she is inconveniencing them by not going anymore - and how come she doesn't ask her son to pay for her cruise? Oh, and they still expect her to do all the booking and other arrangements for their trip, even though she's not going. Neither one ever offered to pay for her cruise, and these are people who have so much in the bank and so much income, their accountants have been pleading with them to please, please spend some money. |
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On 12/1/2015 5:48 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote:
That's the thing that drives me crazy about people with money - they are so goddamned cheap. Yes, that's how they got their money, but this is a good example - they scrimped and saved all their lives, and for what? They can't take it with them. It's past time to treat themselves well for whatever time they have left. One of my sisters happens to be friends with several very wealthy couples. My sister and her husband (blue collar) pay their own way to fly down to visit these people at their vacation homes, where their "friends" put them to work around their property so they don't have to hire help. Yet they'd never consider even paying them for their airfare, much less paying them for their work. My sister was going to go on a cruise this winter with a couple of her millionaire lady friends, but then was suddenly laid off. She told them she couldn't go after all, since she'd just lost her job. They have done nothing but bitch and moan about how she is inconveniencing them by not going anymore - and how come she doesn't ask her son to pay for her cruise? Oh, and they still expect her to do all the booking and other arrangements for their trip, even though she's not going. Neither one ever offered to pay for her cruise, and these are people who have so much in the bank and so much income, their accountants have been pleading with them to please, please spend some money. I'm not so sure her friends are friends. I'd like to die broke. If I knew when the end would come I'd plan it to the last day. Meantime, I have enough to live on for some years and I'm enjoying the surplus while we can. We splurge on a few things, travel a bit more, do some good for less fortunate. |
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On Tue, 01 Dec 2015 16:41:56 -0600, Moe DeLoughan
wrote: On 11/30/2015 6:17 PM, Frank wrote: Cop in an unmarked van came up behind my wife and was tailgating her so she sped up to increase the distance to find out it was a cop and get a speeding ticket. She was too embarrassed to tell me and paid it. Had I known, I would have fought it. Some cops, like thieves, are often lazy and look for easy ways to make money. And sometimes they're riding your bumper while they're using a plate reader or calling in the plate number to see if there are any open warrants or other reasons to make a stop. Once you've checked out okay, they usually back off. Years ago the town cop followed my brother out of town, right on his bumper. As they came over a rizehe could tell it was the cruiser, so when they hame over the next rise he swerved slighly then nailed the brakes. The cop locked up all 4 and left the road. When my brother went back "to see how he was doing" the cop cursed at him and asked what the X$%LL he was doing, and all my brother said was "you didn't see the big dog??? I just missed him." |
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On Tue, 1 Dec 2015 21:08:07 -0500, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/1/2015 5:48 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: That's the thing that drives me crazy about people with money - they are so goddamned cheap. Yes, that's how they got their money, but this is a good example - they scrimped and saved all their lives, and for what? They can't take it with them. It's past time to treat themselves well for whatever time they have left. One of my sisters happens to be friends with several very wealthy couples. My sister and her husband (blue collar) pay their own way to fly down to visit these people at their vacation homes, where their "friends" put them to work around their property so they don't have to hire help. Yet they'd never consider even paying them for their airfare, much less paying them for their work. My sister was going to go on a cruise this winter with a couple of her millionaire lady friends, but then was suddenly laid off. She told them she couldn't go after all, since she'd just lost her job. They have done nothing but bitch and moan about how she is inconveniencing them by not going anymore - and how come she doesn't ask her son to pay for her cruise? Oh, and they still expect her to do all the booking and other arrangements for their trip, even though she's not going. Neither one ever offered to pay for her cruise, and these are people who have so much in the bank and so much income, their accountants have been pleading with them to please, please spend some money. I'm not so sure her friends are friends. I'd like to die broke. If I knew when the end would come I'd plan it to the last day. Meantime, I have enough to live on for some years and I'm enjoying the surplus while we can. We splurge on a few things, travel a bit more, do some good for less fortunate. When my dad asked if I thought he should buy a new car back in his seventies, i asked if he could afford it. I said not to worry about leaving anything to us kids - if he wanted a new car and had the money - buy it!! I said the ideal situation would be to spend his last dollar on the same day he takes his last breath. Cancer fowled up that plan and he hadmore money than time. |
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On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 8:08:13 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On 12/1/2015 5:48 PM, Moe DeLoughan wrote: That's the thing that drives me crazy about people with money - they are so goddamned cheap. Yes, that's how they got their money, but this is a good example - they scrimped and saved all their lives, and for what? They can't take it with them. It's past time to treat themselves well for whatever time they have left. One of my sisters happens to be friends with several very wealthy couples. My sister and her husband (blue collar) pay their own way to fly down to visit these people at their vacation homes, where their "friends" put them to work around their property so they don't have to hire help. Yet they'd never consider even paying them for their airfare, much less paying them for their work. My sister was going to go on a cruise this winter with a couple of her millionaire lady friends, but then was suddenly laid off. She told them she couldn't go after all, since she'd just lost her job. They have done nothing but bitch and moan about how she is inconveniencing them by not going anymore - and how come she doesn't ask her son to pay for her cruise? Oh, and they still expect her to do all the booking and other arrangements for their trip, even though she's not going. Neither one ever offered to pay for her cruise, and these are people who have so much in the bank and so much income, their accountants have been pleading with them to please, please spend some money. I'm not so sure her friends are friends. I'd like to die broke. If I knew when the end would come I'd plan it to the last day. Meantime, I have enough to live on for some years and I'm enjoying the surplus while we can. We splurge on a few things, travel a bit more, do some good for less fortunate. When I was working, me and my friends would often help people out with repairs for little or no money. None of us were wealthy and we worked our butts off to pay our bills. We helped people who were old or disabled and on fixed incomes. When their families found out, they would call us to do work for them and paid full price. Now I'm in rough shape and some really good folks are helping me. Karma is real. (€¢€¿€¢) [8~{} Uncle Karma Monster |
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On 12/1/2015 5:48 PM, Tony Hwang wrote:
I still hate to see anything wasted, and can therefor live on a lot less than many of my friends and associates. I some how sense that, Tony. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 12/1/2015 9:36 PM, wrote:
Years ago the town cop followed my brother out of town, right on his bumper. As they came over a rizehe could tell it was the cruiser, so when they hame over the next rise he swerved slighly then nailed the brakes. The cop locked up all 4 and left the road. When my brother went back "to see how he was doing" the cop cursed at him and asked what the X$%LL he was doing, and all my brother said was "you didn't see the big dog??? I just missed him." Priceless. Thanks for sharing. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 12/2/2015 3:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote:
On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 8:08:13 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote: We splurge on a few things, travel a bit more, do some good for less fortunate. When I was working, me and my friends would often help people out with repairs for little or no money. None of us were wealthy and we worked our butts off to pay our bills. We helped people who were old or disabled and on fixed incomes. When their families found out, they would call us to do work for them and paid full price. Now I'm in rough shape and some really good folks are helping me. Karma is real. (€¢€¿€¢) [8~{} Uncle Karma Monster Sounds like the movie "Pay It Forward". Have you seen that? Neat movie. I'm sure the reviews on line will give you the story line, if not. -- .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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Per Tony Hwang:
Japanese old saying, "If you laugh at penny, some day you'll cry for penny" I call it "Respect for money". I'll bend over to pick up a penny on the street - just out of respect. Didn't know I had it until I saw this guy throw a hand full of pennies at some pigeons in the city and had a serious "WTF ???" moment. -- Pete Cresswell |
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 08:30:41 -0500, "(PeteCresswell)"
wrote: Per Tony Hwang: Japanese old saying, "If you laugh at penny, some day you'll cry for penny" I call it "Respect for money". I'll bend over to pick up a penny on the street - just out of respect. Didn't know I had it until I saw this guy throw a hand full of pennies at some pigeons in the city and had a serious "WTF ???" moment. I tend to pick up pennies too. (Unless they are in a urinal or toilet). I always figure, WHY NOT pick them up. A penny is a penny and bending over is good exercise. I saw a young guy leave a convenience store one day. As soon as he left the store he just tossed all his change (coins) on the ground. The guy who was with him, did the same thing. I picked up all the coins, and got almost $2. I went into the store, bought a can of soda and a donut with that change, and I still had a few coins left. I really enjoyed that "treat". For some reason, food always tastes better when it's free...... By the way, I dont think the Japanese use Pennies..... |
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On Wednesday, December 2, 2015 at 6:59:11 AM UTC-6, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 12/2/2015 3:54 AM, Uncle Monster wrote: On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 8:08:13 PM UTC-6, Ed Pawlowski wrote: We splurge on a few things, travel a bit more, do some good for less fortunate. When I was working, me and my friends would often help people out with repairs for little or no money. None of us were wealthy and we worked our butts off to pay our bills. We helped people who were old or disabled and on fixed incomes. When their families found out, they would call us to do work for them and paid full price. Now I'm in rough shape and some really good folks are helping me. Karma is real. (€¢€¿€¢) [8~{} Uncle Karma Monster Sounds like the movie "Pay It Forward". Have you seen that? Neat movie. I'm sure the reviews on line will give you the story line, if not. -- . I've been playing the "Pay It Forward" game for many years. Whenever I helped a stranded motorist with a jump start, flat tire or empty fuel tank, I refused to take money and told them to just help someone else. I can't do that kind of thing anymore but I can get on the phone and call for help if I see an accident or someone who broke down on the road. t(ツ)_/¯ [8~{} Uncle Motoring Monster |
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:54:43 -0500, wrote:
By the way, I dont think the Japanese use Pennies..... Canada doesn't any more either. I didn't know that! |
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On Wed, 02 Dec 2015 20:33:32 -0600, wrote:
I didn't know that! "Isn't this thread ever going to die?" |
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On Tuesday, December 1, 2015 at 2:16:17 PM UTC-5, wrote:
But now that mom is gone, I'd give almost anything to go shopping with her one more time, and let her waste as much time and gas as she wanted........ (: That was nice. |
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On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 17:32:33 -0800, Oren wrote:
On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 18:16:04 -0700, Ashton Crusher wrote: On Sun, 29 Nov 2015 16:40:30 -0800 (PST), bob haller wrote: I think the flashing lights on emergency vehicles have now got too brite. they are dazzaling and now became a hazard of their own...... You are correct. They have become too bright, esp at night. Don't know how the lights are set up these days but when I used to spec light bars the good ones included an option to automatically dim them at night. I don't know if anyone uses that option anymore. The police aren't known for their consideration of others and in fact in some situations they want to blind you so you can't see them. Maybe the lights show better in heavy fog and blinding snow white outs. We can't be having people see an emergency vehicle, now can we? They will show up just fine with an ambient light sensor that dims them at night. |
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