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How to define "Electrical"?
The local Goodwill store had a HALF PRICE on all Electrical items
yesterday. The sign read: "Everything Electrical is Half Price Today - Anything that plugs in". I got: Lamp timer with a 120V cord on it. Computer mouse with PS2 cord/plug A 6 foot A/V cable (3 wire RCA cable for a VCR or DVD player) A USB to Mini USB cord for my cellphone. When I checked out, the clerk said that the only item that plugs in, was the timer. I explained to her that the computer mouse PLUGS IN to a computer, the RCA cable PLUGS IN to a TV and VCR or DVD, and the USB cord PLUGS IN to a computer and cellphone. She called the manager. He asked her what the problem is. She said this stuff dont plug in. He looked puzzled, when I said "It dont say what it's supposed to plug *INTO*", and told hom the same as I told the clerk (above). He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Just saying "Electrical" should suffice..... |
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wrote in message ... The local Goodwill store had a HALF PRICE on all Electrical items yesterday. The sign read: "Everything Electrical is Half Price Today - Anything that plugs in". I got: Lamp timer with a 120V cord on it. Computer mouse with PS2 cord/plug A 6 foot A/V cable (3 wire RCA cable for a VCR or DVD player) A USB to Mini USB cord for my cellphone. When I checked out, the clerk said that the only item that plugs in, was the timer. I explained to her that the computer mouse PLUGS IN to a computer, the RCA cable PLUGS IN to a TV and VCR or DVD, and the USB cord PLUGS IN to a computer and cellphone. She called the manager. He asked her what the problem is. She said this stuff dont plug in. He looked puzzled, when I said "It dont say what it's supposed to plug *INTO*", and told hom the same as I told the clerk (above). He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Just saying "Electrical" should suffice..... Aren't things at the Good Will donated ? In that case they should be glad to get rid of whatever someone wants to buy. It is really 100 % profit minus what they pay the people. I would say if it has a wire or contains batteries it would be electrical. Don't try to ask the government. Friend in high school joined the airforce to learn electronics around 1970. They put him up in Alaska painting radar towers. He asked the base commander about how that was electronics. Commander pulled out the book (think it is called a MOS Book). Went down the list, Electronics, Radar , Radar Towers, Painting of radar towers, Commander said ' yep you are in electronics, now get your butt back out and start painting'. He spent most of his time painting. |
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:15:28 -0500, wrote:
I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Home Guy, You can now consider hanging yourself. You buy some items at Goodwill, that good people donated and you bitch about how it is sold? ....phucin' Canuck -- "Your brain is so scary sometimes... it really is."-Jedediah Bila... |
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Jerry wants to know "How to define "Electrical?"
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... Jerry? I Pleasance bot me a "cock stretcher" some years back. It wasn't elekrical at all. It was just two loops of velcro tied at each end of a rubber band. Funny ain't it? ^@^ p.s. The question mark need containment within the quotation marks. Thank you. |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 2:21:05 PM UTC-5, wrote:
I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Just saying "Electrical" should suffice..... I would say you are being a dick...Goodwill is not for profit and promotes teaching and employing the handicapped. Shame on your tight wallet. (Did you also go on senior citizen discount and ask for that besides?) |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 4:52:35 PM UTC-4, philo wrote:
On 05/14/2015 02:52 PM, J Burns wrote: On 5/14/15 3:15 PM, wrote: The local Goodwill store had a HALF PRICE on all Electrical items yesterday. The sign read: "Everything Electrical is Half Price Today - Anything that plugs in". I got: Lamp timer with a 120V cord on it. Computer mouse with PS2 cord/plug A 6 foot A/V cable (3 wire RCA cable for a VCR or DVD player) A USB to Mini USB cord for my cellphone. When I checked out, the clerk said that the only item that plugs in, was the timer. I explained to her that the computer mouse PLUGS IN to a computer, the RCA cable PLUGS IN to a TV and VCR or DVD, and the USB cord PLUGS IN to a computer and cellphone. She called the manager. He asked her what the problem is. She said this stuff dont plug in. He looked puzzled, when I said "It dont say what it's supposed to plug *INTO*", and told hom the same as I told the clerk (above). He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Just saying "Electrical" should suffice..... I'll have to side with the clerk. "Electrical" means "operated by or producing electricity." "Electrical" implies that it's something that runs on 115v "house current" so to speak. The lamp timer would be such. Items for the computer etc, would be considered "electronics". The clerk was technically right. but it could be subject to interpretation and in a store such as Goodwill...I agree that they should just be happy top get it out the door...sold. I don't see why "electrical" strictly means that it has to run off 120V AC. I think the strongest argument is the next part, where it says "anything that plugs in". I think you could reasonably construe the two taken together to mean that they meant anything that plugs into an outlet. But it's a poorly worded offer. |
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 16:37:25 -0400, "Ralph Mowery"
wrote: Aren't things at the Good Will donated ? In that case they should be glad to get rid of whatever someone wants to buy. It is really 100 % profit minus what they pay the people. I would say if it has a wire or contains batteries it would be electrical. Thats how I feel about it too. Yes, its donated, and most workers are volunteer. It's a program for handicapped and those are the workers. I guess there may be a paid manager (just a guess). I have shopped at Goodwill for most of my life, but in the last 5 or 10 years, their prices have gotten way too high. Some stuff is more than in a retail store. For example, a pair of used blue jeans for $9. I can buy a pair of NEW Rustler jeans at Walmart for $11. At half price, I paid about $8 for these 4 electrical/electronic items. I would not have bought the stuff for $16. For example, The mouse was priced at $5. That's a lot for a used PS2 microsoft mouse, but for $2.50, I'd buy it, since I wanted to have a spare. I've seen used VCRs priced at $40. Come on, thats robbery. |
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On 5/14/2015 4:49 PM, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:15:28 -0500, wrote: I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Home Guy, You can now consider hanging yourself. You buy some items at Goodwill, that good people donated and you bitch about how it is sold? ...phucin' Canuck Attention whores are never happy. Annoying little ******s. |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:14:58 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
I don't see why "electrical" strictly means that it has to run off 120V AC. I think the strongest argument is the next part, where it says "anything that plugs in". Who cares about "strictly"...cut them some slack, take it for the price listed or put it back. Who are you trying to screw here? |
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On 5/14/2015 7:26 PM, Meanie wrote:
On 5/14/2015 4:49 PM, Oren wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:15:28 -0500, wrote: I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Home Guy, You can now consider hanging yourself. You buy some items at Goodwill, that good people donated and you bitch about how it is sold? ...phucin' Canuck Attention whores are never happy. Annoying little ******s. He does not even have the brains to work at Goodwill. |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 6:26:54 PM UTC-5, wrote:
Thats how I feel about it too. Yes, its donated, and most workers are volunteer. It's a program for handicapped and those are the workers. I guess there may be a paid manager (just a guess). All workers are paid, and most are not handicapped. Prices will vary by area...more affluent, and you with pay more (larger cities too). |
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 15:52:34 -0400, J Burns
wrote: On 5/14/15 3:15 PM, wrote: The local Goodwill store had a HALF PRICE on all Electrical items yesterday. The sign read: "Everything Electrical is Half Price Today - Anything that plugs in". I got: Lamp timer with a 120V cord on it. Computer mouse with PS2 cord/plug A 6 foot A/V cable (3 wire RCA cable for a VCR or DVD player) A USB to Mini USB cord for my cellphone. When I checked out, the clerk said that the only item that plugs in, was the timer. I explained to her that the computer mouse PLUGS IN to a computer, the RCA cable PLUGS IN to a TV and VCR or DVD, and the USB cord PLUGS IN to a computer and cellphone. She called the manager. He asked her what the problem is. She said this stuff dont plug in. He looked puzzled, when I said "It dont say what it's supposed to plug *INTO*", and told hom the same as I told the clerk (above). He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Just saying "Electrical" should suffice..... I'll have to side with the clerk. "Electrical" means "operated by or producing electricity." And in this application, means anything "mains powered" - not "electronic" or "battery powered" |
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 13:49:59 -0700, Oren wrote:
On Thu, 14 May 2015 14:15:28 -0500, wrote: I'm not complaining, but that really is stupid and very vague wording. Home Guy, You can now consider hanging yourself. You buy some items at Goodwill, that good people donated and you bitch about how it is sold? ...phucin' Canuck Hey, don't bring his nationality into it. Stupidity knows no borders. Just going by the ratio of american residents to canadian residents, there are roughly 10 times as many american idiots as canadian idiots - - - - - - |
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On 5/14/2015 3:15 PM, wrote:
He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. Nitwit! What does the manager think batteries do? Fart methane? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 5/14/2015 3:52 PM, J Burns wrote:
On 5/14/15 3:15 PM, wrote: He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'll have to side with the clerk. "Electrical" means "operated by or producing electricity." What is your position on battery power devices? Are they electrical? For example, is a flashlight electrical? How about a dustbuster? How about a battery power AM / FM radio? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 5/14/2015 4:52 PM, philo wrote:
"Electrical" implies that it's something that runs on 115v "house current" so to speak. So, my 12 volt DC car doesn't have an electrical system? - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 5/14/15 9:33 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/14/2015 3:52 PM, J Burns wrote: On 5/14/15 3:15 PM, wrote: He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'll have to side with the clerk. "Electrical" means "operated by or producing electricity." What is your position on battery power devices? Are they electrical? I took that definition from the OED. You mentioned the electrical system of your car. Anything powered by it is electrical. For example, is a flashlight electrical? I'd call a flashlight electrical when it's connected to an electrical system for charging. How about a dustbuster? Yes, half price. How about a battery power AM / FM radio? Sorry, full price. |
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On 05/14/2015 06:44 PM, bob_villa wrote:
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 5:14:58 PM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote: I don't see why "electrical" strictly means that it has to run off 120V AC. I think the strongest argument is the next part, where it says "anything that plugs in". Who cares about "strictly"...cut them some slack, take it for the price listed or put it back. Who are you trying to screw here? Yep. Considering that the stuff sells for next to nothing, why try to get it for half-price??? |
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4ax.com: In Generally thrift shop prices are VERY good, and only a cheapskate would chisel on prices at a store that is a charity fundraiser. I agree 100% except for the term "cheapskate". I would prefer "cheap scumbag". That's a guy who's so out of touch that he goes public with his tales about how clever he is for jewing down a charity. |
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On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:46:43 PM UTC-4, J Burns wrote:
On 5/14/15 9:33 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: On 5/14/2015 3:52 PM, J Burns wrote: On 5/14/15 3:15 PM, wrote: He agreed with me, and said it all looked electrical, and told the clerk to give me the half price. But said if anything needed batteries, that would not qualify. I'll have to side with the clerk. "Electrical" means "operated by or producing electricity." What is your position on battery power devices? Are they electrical? I took that definition from the OED. By OED, I assume you mean the Oxford English Dictionary? This OED?: Definition of electrical in English: adjective 1Operating by or producing electricity: €˜an electrical appliance €˜Since when did the average boat owner need a generator to operate the boat's electrical system? 1.1Concerned with electricity: €˜an electrical engineer Merriam Webster: elec·tri·cal \-tri-kÉ™l\ : of, relating to, or operated by electricity an electric current an electric heater I don't see where either of those strictly limit "electrical" to requiring that it be intended to be plugged into an AC outlet. You mentioned the electrical system of your car. Anything powered by it is electrical. For example, is a flashlight electrical? I'd call a flashlight electrical when it's connected to an electrical system for charging. Is an electrical engineer also only electrical when he's plugged into an electrical system for charging? |
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On Thu, 14 May 2015 18:21:19 -0500, wrote: On Thu, 14 May 2015 16:37:25 -0400, "Ralph Mowery" wrote: Aren't things at the Good Will donated ? In that case they should be glad to get rid of whatever someone wants to buy. It is really 100 % profit minus what they pay the people. I would say if it has a wire or contains batteries it would be electrical. Thats how I feel about it too. Yes, its donated, and most workers are volunteer. It's a program for handicapped and those are the workers. I guess there may be a paid manager (just a guess). I have shopped at Goodwill for most of my life, but in the last 5 or 10 years, their prices have gotten way too high. Some stuff is more than in a retail store. For example, a pair of used blue jeans for $9. I can buy a pair of NEW Rustler jeans at Walmart for $11. And you expect to get a pair of vintage Lee Riders, or GWG , or Levi's red tabs for $9???. The man has a point. There are jeans and there are jeans, some costing $100, $200, even $300+ when new. And then there is what condition they are in. If it was a pair of jeans that normally go for even $50 and in excellent condition, they'd be a steal at $9. Actually, some folks pay *more* for used looking jeans. They call them "distressed" and Voila!, they cost 2X. |
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On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 8:24:07 AM UTC-5, trader_4 wrote:
Is an electrical engineer also only electrical when he's plugged into an electrical system for charging? This puts you in the league with Moron and micky...and we are talking about cheating a charity, not "strict" lawyer-type semantics! If you can't see the difference...you need professional help. |
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On 05/14/2015 08:46 PM, J Burns wrote:
[snip] How about a battery power AM / FM radio? Sorry, full price. So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. -- "No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise." [Martin Luther] |
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On 05/15/2015 08:24 AM, trader_4 wrote:
[snip] I don't see where either of those strictly limit "electrical" to requiring that it be intended to be plugged into an AC outlet. Because DC isn't REAL electricity :-) -- "No gown worse becomes a woman than the desire to be wise." [Martin Luther] |
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On 5/15/15 9:24 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:46:43 PM UTC-4, J Burns wrote: I took that definition from the OED. By OED, I assume you mean the Oxford English Dictionary? I see we're on the same page. This OED?: Definition of electrical in English: adjective 1Operating by or producing electricity: €˜an electrical appliance €˜Since when did the average boat owner need a generator to operate the boat's electrical system? If I had me a boat, I'd keep her chained to the dock so I wouldn't need a generator to operate her electrical system. I'd call a flashlight electrical when it's connected to an electrical system for charging. Is an electrical engineer also only electrical when he's plugged into an electrical system for charging? An electrical engineer tells you how to plug a flashlight into an electrical system for charging. Some moonlight as flashlight repairmen. That's where the big bucks are nowadays, what with all those leaky alkaline batteries. |
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On 5/15/15 12:26 PM, hah wrote:
On 05/14/2015 08:46 PM, J Burns wrote: [snip] How about a battery power AM / FM radio? Sorry, full price. So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. In 1947, the family of the late GREAT Carl Perkins moved into a house with an electrical system. Carl saved up a month's wages and bought an electrical radio. Before that, he couldn't listen much because his radio ran on expensive chemical packs (leaky alkalines or something). |
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On 5/15/2015 9:24 AM, trader_4 wrote:
On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:46:43 PM UTC-4, J Burns wrote: On 5/14/15 9:33 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: For example, is a flashlight electrical? I'd call a flashlight electrical when it's connected to an electrical system for charging. Is an electrical engineer also only electrical when he's plugged into an electrical system for charging? Flashlight batteries provide volts and amps, which operate a bulb measured in ohms. I consider that electrical. I also consider that "runs on electricity". - .. Christopher A. Young learn more about Jesus .. www.lds.org .. .. |
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On 5/15/15 3:00 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote:
On 5/15/2015 9:24 AM, trader_4 wrote: On Thursday, May 14, 2015 at 9:46:43 PM UTC-4, J Burns wrote: On 5/14/15 9:33 PM, Stormin Mormon wrote: For example, is a flashlight electrical? I'd call a flashlight electrical when it's connected to an electrical system for charging. Is an electrical engineer also only electrical when he's plugged into an electrical system for charging? Flashlight batteries provide volts and amps, which operate a bulb measured in ohms. I consider that electrical. I also consider that "runs on electricity". I was going to ask you to pick me up a digital wrist watch at Harbor Freight. I don't want to get you all upset, but I've changed my mind. You'd spend all day looking in the electrical goods department. |
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So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- Tekkie *Please post a follow-up* |
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"Tekkie®" wrote in message ... hah posted for all of us... So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- but that received signal is: ELECTRICITY! |
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On 5/15/15 4:59 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"Tekkie®" wrote in message ... hah posted for all of us... So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- but that received signal is: ELECTRICITY! Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to power my home's electrical system from a crystal radio. I WASN'T BORN YESTERDAY!!! |
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"J Burns" wrote in message ... On 5/15/15 4:59 PM, taxed and spent wrote: "Tekkie®" wrote in message ... hah posted for all of us... So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- but that received signal is: ELECTRICITY! Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to power my home's electrical system from a crystal radio. I WASN'T BORN YESTERDAY!!! powering your with electricity would be a subset of "electrical". |
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On 5/15/15 5:22 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"J Burns" wrote in message ... On 5/15/15 4:59 PM, taxed and spent wrote: "Tekkie®" wrote in message ... hah posted for all of us... So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- but that received signal is: ELECTRICITY! Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to power my home's electrical system from a crystal radio. I WASN'T BORN YESTERDAY!!! powering your with electricity would be a subset of "electrical". How could my home be powered with a subset? A subset must have either a diesel engine and a big battery or a nuclear reactor. My home's electrical system has none of those things. |
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"J Burns" wrote in message ... On 5/15/15 5:22 PM, taxed and spent wrote: "J Burns" wrote in message ... On 5/15/15 4:59 PM, taxed and spent wrote: "Tekkie®" wrote in message ... hah posted for all of us... So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- but that received signal is: ELECTRICITY! Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to power my home's electrical system from a crystal radio. I WASN'T BORN YESTERDAY!!! powering your with electricity would be a subset of "electrical". How could my home be powered with a subset? A subset must have either a diesel engine and a big battery or a nuclear reactor. My home's electrical system has none of those things. I think I know your home better than you do. Check the sub sub sub basement. |
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On Friday, May 15, 2015 at 1:47:35 PM UTC-5, Oren wrote:
BYL KMA ....mark off a spot...you're ALL ass! |
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On Fri, 15 May 2015 15:31:07 -0700 (PDT), bob_villa
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On 5/15/15 5:55 PM, taxed and spent wrote:
"J Burns" wrote in message ... On 5/15/15 5:22 PM, taxed and spent wrote: "J Burns" wrote in message ... On 5/15/15 4:59 PM, taxed and spent wrote: "Tekkie®" wrote in message ... hah posted for all of us... So you have a radio that works with no electricity. How does that work? Considering that radio signals themselves are electric fields, you'd need a new kind of broadcasting. You don't need electricity to receive AM. A (?)crystal will convert the received signal to headphones. DAGS on Crystal radios. -- but that received signal is: ELECTRICITY! Oh yeah, like I'm supposed to power my home's electrical system from a crystal radio. I WASN'T BORN YESTERDAY!!! powering your with electricity would be a subset of "electrical". How could my home be powered with a subset? A subset must have either a diesel engine and a big battery or a nuclear reactor. My home's electrical system has none of those things. I think I know your home better than you do. Check the sub sub sub basement. You may be thinking of my summer place, Castle De'ath. When Patrick Macnee asked to film an episode there, I said it was out of the question. A man's castle is his home! Then Diana Rigg walked in and stood silhouetted against the window in her sheer nightgown. Macnee said viewers wouldn't even notice my sub pens. I agreed. If there were any under this house, wouldn't I have been informed when I bought it? Wouldn't the cellar have told me? |
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