I am scheduled to have my left knee replaced in December of 2014. I have been told two things:

A.) That I will be able to kneel on the artificial knee after the surgery, but it will feel awful to do so.

B.) That even though it feels awful to kneel on an artificial knee, it won't do any harm to the knee or my legs.

I find that I have to do a fair bit of kneeling looking after my apartment block and am concerned I may not be able to look after it if I can't kneel down.

I'm interested in hearing from people in here that have had knee replacement surgery who can tell me how bad the problem of kneeling will be. I am especially interested in hearing from people who've had their knees replaced or know people who have well enough to know if they can kneel, and how much discomfort there is associated with kneeling.

This is like a Y2K question. I've never had a knee replaced, and so I don't know how bad the kneeling problem will be. And ignorance is fertile ground for the imagination to run wild. I don't know if it will just feel a little bit uncomfortable or if it will be excruciatingly painful or where on that scale kneeling will fall. Hearing what people who've had this surgery done will help me know what I'm up against.

PS: Here in Winnipeg, the Concordia Hospital Hip and Knee Institute is a veritable hip and knee replacement factory. I've heard that they replace about 1600 knees a year there, and an approximately equal number of hips. Assuming 250 working days per year, that's about 6 knees and 6 hips every single working day of the year. It's no wonder that they get the patients up and walking within a day or two of the surgery; they have to get those people out to make room for the new people coming in! But, truth be told, I am glad I am living in a time when replacing knees and hips is medically feasible. When I was born, it wasn't. If you had bad arthritis in your knees or hips, you walked with a cane or a walker and that's just how things were. Now, they can replace worn out knees and hips with artificial ones that allow people to walk normally, run, ride a bicycle, climb a ladder and even dance. But, they just can't kneel comfortably.

On Thu, 31 Jul 2014 15:56:03 -0700, nestork
wrote:


I am scheduled to have my left knee replaced in December of 2014. I
have been told two things:

Our prayers for a great outcome are with you.

For joints and such, highly recommend 'sports doctors' they KNOW their
stuff!

Father in Law's knee replacement was not too bad until the therapist idiot
over extended the joint causing excruciating pain that set back the
healing process immensely. My father in law believed when the physical
therapist was saying no pain no gain and made him feel like a wimp.

Don't know about kneeling, he was protestant

Once you have ANY replacement joints you are at greater risk of a infection settling into the replacement joint location in your body

A good friend was a marathon runner who wore out his knee, so he had it replaced and did well in therapy. But he got a staph infection that settled in his new knee. he was put on IV antibiotics..They did no good and tey had to remove his new knee joint, He had a pin and foam pad, for 6 months till the infection finally cleared up. then had to get a brand new knee again. he very nearly lost his leg.

I need a new knee, had to quit working at harbor freight, I got in so much knee pain I couldnt walk I tore my miniscus cartlidge bad at age 40 after a fall on ice. surgeon said I had no good cartlidge at all Today I am 57

knee replacement surgery is BAD NEWS, for the morbidly obese. My surgeon said it invaribly fails, so when anyone 80 or 100 pounds or more comes in for a knee or hip replacement he refers them for weight loss surgery. Sadly only about 1% of the morbid obese are able to lose most of the weight and keep it off 5 years

99% fail

"nestork" wrote in message

I am scheduled to have my left knee replaced in December of 2014. I
have been told two things:

A.) That I will be able to kneel on the artificial knee after the
surgery, but it will feel awful to do so.

B.) That even though it feels awful to kneel on an artificial knee, it
won't do any harm to the knee or my legs.

I find that I have to do a fair bit of kneeling looking after my
apartment block and am concerned I may not be able to look after it if I
can't kneel down.

I'm interested in hearing from people in here that have had knee
replacement surgery who can tell me how bad the problem of kneeling will
be. I am especially interested in hearing from people who've had their
knees replaced or know people who have well enough to know if they can
kneel, and how much discomfort there is associated with kneeling.

This is like a Y2K question. I've never had a knee replaced, and so I
don't know how bad the kneeling problem will be. And ignorance is
fertile ground for the imagination to run wild. I don't know if it will
just feel a little bit uncomfortable or if it will be excruciatingly
painful or where on that scale kneeling will fall. Hearing what people
who've had this surgery done will help me know what I'm up against.

I've not needed it - knock on wood - but a long time friend did. She had
it done a bit over six months ago. She isn't a complainer so the fact
that she had it done tells me that she was in considerable discomfort. She
had figured she'd be good to go in a couple of months. She wasn't and
isn't.

Gotta remember, this is a HUGELY invasive procedure...massive cutting,
prying, poking etc. It is going to take a long while to heal and
(guessing) I don't think you should plan on kneeling for many weeks.
FWIW, there are less invasive types of surgery requiring only 4-5" of
cutting. Apparently, there is some debate over its efficacy compared to
the normal one and to long term effects; nevertheless, if it were me, I'd
check it out.

My only experience along this vein was having a synovial cyst removed from
a knee about 40 years ago. For a couple of days post surgery I was unable
to move the keg...I could try, it would not respond. The cut was about
4".

I was out of the hospital in a about 3-4 days. I was back in 3 days later
with a pulmonary embolism, double pneumonia and phlebitis. I was there
for a month but was only "out of it" for about a week...the rest of the
time was for anti-coagulant shots. Took oral anti-coagulant for months.
I mention these things to bump your awareness of possible adverse side
effects, especially blood clots.

I had little trouble with the knee itself but it was a year before I was
totally unaware of it. No way I would have been able to kneel for at
least a month even if I had not had the complications.

Good luck to you.


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knee replacement surgery is BAD NEWS, for the morbidly obese. My surgeon said it invaribly fails, so when anyone 80 or 100 pounds or more comes in for a knee or hip replacement he refers them for weight loss surgery. Sadly only about 1% of the morbid obese are able to lose most of the weight and keep it off 5 years

99% fail

And there are a lot of morbidly obese people in the U.S.

But keep in mind that even if the surgery invariably fails a few years
down the road, the medical people still got paid.
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CRNG wrote:



But keep in mind that even if the surgery invariably fails a few years
down the road, the medical people still got paid.

And when the computer or your car invariably fails, you get your money
back from the company? The OEM joint wore out, why shouldn't the
replacement?
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but what they conceal is vital."
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Unfortunately, gentlemen, I don't have very much choice in the matter.

I cannot enjoy the remainder of my life with my knees the way they are, so it comes down to a matter of limping and hobbling around in pain for the rest of my days, or having the knee(s) replaced and hoping for the best.

That is, it's more of an unavoidable necessity than it is a "choice". "Choice" is the word you use when you have other feasible options, and that's not the case here.

In article ,
nestork wrote:

'dadiOH[_3_ Wrote:
;3266348']
Gotta remember, this is a HUGELY invasive procedure...massive cutting,
prying, poking etc. It is going to take a long while to heal and
(guessing) I don't think you should plan on kneeling for many weeks.


Unfortunately, gentlemen, I don't have very much choice in the matter.

I cannot enjoy the remainder of my life with my knees the way they are,
so it comes down to a matter of limping and hobbling around in pain for
the rest of my days, or having the knee(s) replaced and hoping for the
best.

That is, it's more of an unavoidable necessity than it is a "choice".
"Choice" is the word you use when you have other feasible options, and
that's not the case here.

I write a lot about ortho stuff for the various magazines I work for.
There are two main keys to a successful knee replacement. 1 is religious
following of the PT, especially in the first month or two. Second is the
volume of the surgeon and the hospital. The more they do, the better
they get. However, some recent studies suggest that the mega providers
(doing more than 500 a year) may actually have lower quality outcomes
related to slightly higher infection rates.
From discussions with patients, be aggressive with pain management
for the first few weeks. Don't try to gut it out because it will just
make movement harder, whicb makes the PT harder and also may increase
the possibility for blood clots if you aren't up and moving about.
Good luck.
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but what they conceal is vital.²
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"nestork" wrote in message

'dadiOH[_3_ Wrote:
;3266348']
Gotta remember, this is a HUGELY invasive procedure...massive cutting,
prying, poking etc. It is going to take a long while to heal and
(guessing) I don't think you should plan on kneeling for many weeks.


Unfortunately, gentlemen, I don't have very much choice in the matter.

I cannot enjoy the remainder of my life with my knees the way they are,
so it comes down to a matter of limping and hobbling around in pain for
the rest of my days, or having the knee(s) replaced and hoping for the
best.

That is, it's more of an unavoidable necessity than it is a "choice".
"Choice" is the word you use when you have other feasible options, and
that's not the case here.

I didn't mean to imply that you should not have it done, just pointing out
that the recovery is going to tale a while.

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On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 00:56:03 +0200, nestork
wrote:


I am scheduled to have my left knee replaced in December of 2014. I
have been told two things:

A.) That I will be able to kneel on the artificial knee after the
surgery, but it will feel awful to do so.

B.) That even though it feels awful to kneel on an artificial knee, it
won't do any harm to the knee or my legs.

I find that I have to do a fair bit of kneeling looking after my
apartment block and am concerned I may not be able to look after it if I
can't kneel down.

I'm interested in hearing from people in here that have had knee
replacement surgery who can tell me how bad the problem of kneeling will
be. I am especially interested in hearing from people who've had their
knees replaced or know people who have well enough to know if they can
kneel, and how much discomfort there is associated with kneeling.

This is like a Y2K question. I've never had a knee replaced, and so I
don't know how bad the kneeling problem will be. And ignorance is
fertile ground for the imagination to run wild. I don't know if it will
just feel a little bit uncomfortable or if it will be excruciatingly
painful or where on that scale kneeling will fall. Hearing what people
who've had this surgery done will help me know what I'm up against.

PS: Here in Winnipeg, the Concordia Hospital Hip and Knee Institute is
a veritable hip and knee replacement factory. I've heard that they
replace about 1600 knees a year there, and an approximately equal number
of hips. Assuming 250 working days per year, that's about 6 knees and 6
hips every single working day of the year. It's no wonder that they get
the patients up and walking within a day or two of the surgery; they
have to get those people out to make room for the new people coming in!
But, truth be told, I am glad I am living in a time when replacing knees
and hips is medically feasible. When I was born, it wasn't. If you had
bad arthritis in your knees or hips, you walked with a cane or a walker
and that's just how things were. Now, they can replace worn out knees
and hips with artificial ones that allow people to walk normally, run,
ride a bicycle, climb a ladder and even dance. But, they just can't
kneel comfortably.
I had it done a couple of years ago. Best decision that I ever made.
Knee is in perfect shape, if I have to kneel a lot, I use a small
pillow under the knee - no big deal, entirely comfortable.
As a result of the surgery, my knee cap is thin. The surgeon told me
to insure that during rehab they do not press hard on the knee cap,
told the rehab folks, no problem.
I was walking within 24 hours of the surgery with assistance, climbing
steps up and down 3 days later. Down is harder than up. Lead with the
new knee.
Good luck, hth

On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:42:21 +0200, nestork
wrote:


'dadiOH[_3_ Wrote:
;3266348']
Gotta remember, this is a HUGELY invasive procedure...massive cutting,
prying, poking etc. It is going to take a long while to heal and
(guessing) I don't think you should plan on kneeling for many weeks.


Unfortunately, gentlemen, I don't have very much choice in the matter.

I cannot enjoy the remainder of my life with my knees the way they are,
so it comes down to a matter of limping and hobbling around in pain for
the rest of my days, or having the knee(s) replaced and hoping for the
best.

That is, it's more of an unavoidable necessity than it is a "choice".
"Choice" is the word you use when you have other feasible options, and
that's not the case here.
Get 'em done. You'll likely curse yourself for putting it off as long
as you have. Way better than 90% have good to very good results over
the last 5-10 years.
Friend has both done within a year's time. 2 different brands/styles.
The first one gave better range of motion than the second.
Knees take longer to heal than hips, even though hips are more
intrusive (larger cuts) because the hip is a simpler joint.

On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 00:56:03 +0200, nestork
wrote:


I am scheduled to have my left knee replaced in December of 2014. I
have been told two things:

A.) That I will be able to kneel on the artificial knee after the
surgery, but it will feel awful to do so.

B.) That even though it feels awful to kneel on an artificial knee, it
won't do any harm to the knee or my legs.

I find that I have to do a fair bit of kneeling looking after my
apartment block and am concerned I may not be able to look after it if I
can't kneel down.

I'm interested in hearing from people in here that have had knee
replacement surgery who can tell me how bad the problem of kneeling will
be. I am especially interested in hearing from people who've had their
knees replaced or know people who have well enough to know if they can
kneel, and how much discomfort there is associated with kneeling.

This is like a Y2K question. I've never had a knee replaced, and so I
don't know how bad the kneeling problem will be. And ignorance is
fertile ground for the imagination to run wild. I don't know if it will
just feel a little bit uncomfortable or if it will be excruciatingly
painful or where on that scale kneeling will fall. Hearing what people
who've had this surgery done will help me know what I'm up against.

PS: Here in Winnipeg, the Concordia Hospital Hip and Knee Institute is
a veritable hip and knee replacement factory. I've heard that they
replace about 1600 knees a year there, and an approximately equal number
of hips. Assuming 250 working days per year, that's about 6 knees and 6
hips every single working day of the year. It's no wonder that they get
the patients up and walking within a day or two of the surgery; they
have to get those people out to make room for the new people coming in!
But, truth be told, I am glad I am living in a time when replacing knees
and hips is medically feasible. When I was born, it wasn't. If you had
bad arthritis in your knees or hips, you walked with a cane or a walker
and that's just how things were. Now, they can replace worn out knees
and hips with artificial ones that allow people to walk normally, run,
ride a bicycle, climb a ladder and even dance. But, they just can't
kneel comfortably.

I've had both knees replaced in the Comox, BC Hospital over the last
two years. I did everything I was told to do, in partucular, the
pre-op excerises. My results have been excellent. Similarly, I have
heard of few complaints from others. From my experience, those who do
not do the prescribed excercises are the ones with probelems. Forgive
the gloat, but, thanks to working my knees at my gym, the orthopod
told me not to bother with coming back for the 6 month check.

During the five hour pre-op course given by the physiothereapists we
were told that, in terms of outcomes, Canada is the best country to
get joint surgery done. Plus, the replacements used last up to 25
years. That was encouraging to us nervous folks. Actually, the worst
part of joint replacement is waiting for the operation. After, its
all downhill.

Personally, I can't kneel on a bare surface without some pain.
Kneeling on a rug isn't too bad for a short time. However, a four inch
foam cusion works well. For example, I recently regrouted a tile
floor with no problems. When crawling around my crawlspace, good
quality knee pads ($35.00+) are adequate, but not as good as the
cushion. However, with only one operative knee you should have no
problems at all; that is, the good knee can be used for kneeling.

The thing to do is get it done. You will wonder why you waited so
long. People will go out of their way to relate horror stories -
ignore them.

During the three days in hospital, there was no pain. Also there was
no pain for about two days after going home while the hospital drugs
were still effective. Then I began Tylenol 3s. (Tramacet is another
option). Thus my pain was well controlled by meds, but there was
discomfort. For about three weeks it was difficult to find
comfortable way to rest the operative knee. You end up moving the
knee around a bit seeking comfort. Something you have to wait out.

Once you have had your pre-op course, talk to OR booking to state you
are available anytime in the event of a cancellation. Get it done and
do all the excercises buy the book

Gary

On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

knee replacement surgery is BAD NEWS, for the morbidly obese. My surgeon said it invaribly fails, so when anyone 80 or 100 pounds or more comes in for a knee or hip replacement he refers them for weight loss surgery. Sadly only about 1% of the morbid obese are able to lose most of the weight and keep it off 5 years

99% fail

About 20 years ago, when I was just starting to get fat, because I like
to plan years and decades ahead, I called the office of a doctor who
did weight loss surgery and his receptionist told me it was only for
peoplle who were morbidly obese.

So now that I'm that fat, need to lose 100 pounds, (or 120 to get back
to my weight as a senior in high school) I called again and they told
me, Surgery can only suck out 10 or 15 pounds. I was prepared to
spend 10,000 of my own money, but I thought they'd get rid of my entire
pot belly (and that they would cut off the extra skin). which I think is
3 1/2 thick x 12" wide by almost 12" high, and iiuc almost pure fat.
That has to be about 50 pounds, right, half of all my owervweightednes.
But I can't do that three times, for 30,000. (The price is about 2
years old, in Baltimore. Probably higher some places and lower others.)

On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:27:45 -0400, wrote:


I had it done a couple of years ago. Best decision that I ever made.
Knee is in perfect shape, if I have to kneel a lot, I use a small
pillow under the knee - no big deal, entirely comfortable.

I have no personal experience with joint transplants.

But what about those knee pads that attach to the leg with a wide
elastic band around the whole leg. Contractors use them when they have
to be on their knees all day.

Do football players use them?

I've used them, I forget why


**I did have shoulder surgery 35 years ago, for a frequently dislocating
shoulder.. About December 15, lots of snow in NY, didn't take my
girlfriend anywhere for New years Eve, because I'm a pansy. In the
waiting room, waiting for a follow-up check-up, as is the guy sitting
across from me. Now he's a man. Had the surgery a week later than I,
Dec 22, and still took his girlfriend out on NYE. Slipped on the snow,
wrenched his arm, he's there to see what he did to himself. After his
apointment, I ask him. He says the doctor said they wouldn't know until
it healed and he saw if it was actually better. So months more of doubt
and maybe all that money and time wasted. Some times it's better to
be a pansy.


As a result of the surgery, my knee cap is thin. The surgeon told me
to insure that during rehab they do not press hard on the knee cap,
told the rehab folks, no problem.
I was walking within 24 hours of the surgery with assistance, climbing
steps up and down 3 days later. Down is harder than up. Lead with the
new knee.
Good luck, hth

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 5:36:03 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT), bob haller

wrote:



knee replacement surgery is BAD NEWS, for the morbidly obese. My surgeon said it invaribly fails, so when anyone 80 or 100 pounds or more comes in for a knee or hip replacement he refers them for weight loss surgery. Sadly only about 1% of the morbid obese are able to lose most of the weight and keep it off 5 years



99% fail



About 20 years ago, when I was just starting to get fat, because I like

to plan years and decades ahead, I called the office of a doctor who

did weight loss surgery and his receptionist told me it was only for

peoplle who were morbidly obese.



So now that I'm that fat, need to lose 100 pounds, (or 120 to get back

to my weight as a senior in high school) I called again and they told

me, Surgery can only suck out 10 or 15 pounds. I was prepared to

spend 10,000 of my own money, but I thought they'd get rid of my entire

pot belly (and that they would cut off the extra skin). which I think is

3 1/2 thick x 12" wide by almost 12" high, and iiuc almost pure fat.

That has to be about 50 pounds, right, half of all my owervweightednes.

But I can't do that three times, for 30,000. (The price is about 2

years old, in Baltimore. Probably higher some places and lower others.)

Sounds like not weight loss surgery, because they dont suck out fat! they permanetely make your stomach smaller My weight loss surgery was in july 2001. I weighed 313 pounds, bottomed underweight at around 175, today I weigh about 223, 23 pounds ver the docs goal weight. BEST DECISION OF MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!

My good buddy proudly announced at the time of my surgery he would lose it naturally. He went from 325 toaround 475 aqnd is very ill from weight related troubles...

On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 15:42:21 +0200, nestork
wrote:


'dadiOH[_3_ Wrote:
;3266348']
Gotta remember, this is a HUGELY invasive procedure...massive cutting,
prying, poking etc. It is going to take a long while to heal and
(guessing) I don't think you should plan on kneeling for many weeks.


Unfortunately, gentlemen, I don't have very much choice in the matter.

I cannot enjoy the remainder of my life with my knees the way they are,
so it comes down to a matter of limping and hobbling around in pain for
the rest of my days, or having the knee(s) replaced and hoping for the
best.

That is, it's more of an unavoidable necessity than it is a "choice".
"Choice" is the word you use when you have other feasible options, and
that's not the case here.


As someone else mentioned, you might want to consult with a sports
orthopedic guy as well as the people who do 6 of these a day and get a
second opinion. Most surgeries can be done more then one way and I'd
want to here the pros and cons for each. A woman that used to work
for me hobbled around for years and years with bad knee (or hip, can't
remember now, old age...) because she was afraid to have it done. When
she finally could hardly walk she had the surgery and it worked out
great for her and she wished she'd done it sooner. Another guy I
worked with had it done twice because he wore out the first one. He
seems to be doing fine after the recovery period. The problem with
this kind of surgery is that outcomes run the gamut so to some extend
you have to hope for the best.. but for those I've seen have it, it's
worked well.

On Sat, 2 Aug 2014 05:03:37 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

On Saturday, August 2, 2014 5:36:03 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Fri, 1 Aug 2014 04:29:39 -0700 (PDT), bob haller

wrote:



knee replacement surgery is BAD NEWS, for the morbidly obese. My surgeon said it invaribly fails, so when anyone 80 or 100 pounds or more comes in for a knee or hip replacement he refers them for weight loss surgery. Sadly only about 1% of the morbid obese are able to lose most of the weight and keep it off 5 years



99% fail



About 20 years ago, when I was just starting to get fat, because I like

to plan years and decades ahead, I called the office of a doctor who

did weight loss surgery and his receptionist told me it was only for

peoplle who were morbidly obese.



So now that I'm that fat, need to lose 100 pounds, (or 120 to get back

to my weight as a senior in high school) I called again and they told

me, Surgery can only suck out 10 or 15 pounds. I was prepared to

spend 10,000 of my own money, but I thought they'd get rid of my entire

pot belly (and that they would cut off the extra skin). which I think is

3 1/2 thick x 12" wide by almost 12" high, and iiuc almost pure fat.

That has to be about 50 pounds, right, half of all my owervweightednes.

But I can't do that three times, for 30,000. (The price is about 2

years old, in Baltimore. Probably higher some places and lower others.)

Sounds like not weight loss surgery, because they dont suck out fat!

You're right. Thanks. I meant liposuction, both times. 20 years ago
they said I was too thin to have it (had to be morbidly obese) , and 2
years ago they said I was too fat to have it, and they'd only take off
15 pounds (but they also wanted me to lose that weight first so all they
had to do was tighten the skin.

I suppose this is because they had some bad results, maybe deaths, with
sucking out too much fat, but like sugar and transfat and all the other
things they warn us about, I figured I'd be fine, and I wanted an easy
fix.

they permanetely make your stomach smaller My weight loss surgery was in july 2001. I weighed 313 pounds, bottomed underweight at around 175, today I weigh about 223, 23 pounds ver the docs goal weight. BEST DECISION OF MY ENTIRE LIFE!!!

That's great. Good for you.

My good buddy proudly announced at the time of my surgery he would lose it naturally. He went from 325 toaround 475 aqnd is very ill from weight related troubles...

I guess I see the lesson there.

On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:49:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:27:45 -0400, wrote:


I had it done a couple of years ago. Best decision that I ever made.
Knee is in perfect shape, if I have to kneel a lot, I use a small
pillow under the knee - no big deal, entirely comfortable.

I have no personal experience with joint transplants.

But what about those knee pads that attach to the leg with a wide
elastic band around the whole leg. Contractors use them when they have
to be on their knees all day.
I use them for working around the yard on gravel. Aside from slipping
down periodically, they work - but, for intermittent use on both
gravel and the garage floor I find a small pillow fo be more effective
and easy to maneuver.
See the paragraph above that starts with "I had it done" - my thoughts
exactly.

Do football players use them?

I've used them, I forget why


**I did have shoulder surgery 35 years ago, for a frequently dislocating
shoulder.. About December 15, lots of snow in NY, didn't take my
girlfriend anywhere for New years Eve, because I'm a pansy. In the
waiting room, waiting for a follow-up check-up, as is the guy sitting
across from me. Now he's a man. Had the surgery a week later than I,
Dec 22, and still took his girlfriend out on NYE. Slipped on the snow,
wrenched his arm, he's there to see what he did to himself. After his
apointment, I ask him. He says the doctor said they wouldn't know until
it healed and he saw if it was actually better. So months more of doubt
and maybe all that money and time wasted. Some times it's better to
be a pansy.


As a result of the surgery, my knee cap is thin. The surgeon told me
to insure that during rehab they do not press hard on the knee cap,
told the rehab folks, no problem.
I was walking within 24 hours of the surgery with assistance, climbing
steps up and down 3 days later. Down is harder than up. Lead with the
new knee.
Good luck, hth

Thanks guys. That is what I was hoping to hear... that with some cushioning, I can kneel if I have to without enduring too much pain.

I recently liberated two seat cushions from an old couch that one of my tenants had discarded. They've got molded foam insides so they hold their shape and offer a fair bit of support (unlike some couch seat cushions).

I plan to do the physiotherapy exercises religiously after the operation.

And I plan to learn to "Jitterbug" dance after the operation too.

nestork wrote:


Knee is in perfect shape, if I have to kneel a lot, I use a small
pillow under the knee - no big deal, entirely comfortable.


G Mulcaster;3266614 Wrote:

Personally, I can't kneel on a bare surface without some pain.
Kneeling on a rug isn't too bad for a short time. However, a four inch
foam cusion works well. For example, I recently regrouted a tile
floor with no problems. When crawling around my crawlspace, good
quality knee pads ($35.00+) are adequate, but not as good as the
cushion. However, with only one operative knee you should have no
problems at all; that is, the good knee can be used for kneeling.


Thanks guys. That is what I was hoping to hear... that with some
cushioning, I can kneel if I have to without enduring too much pain.

I recently liberated two seat cushions from an old couch that one of my
tenants had discarded. They've got molded foam insides so they hold
their shape and offer a fair bit of support (unlike some couch seat
cushions).

I plan to do the physiotherapy exercises religiously after the
operation.

And I plan to learn to "Jitterbug" dance after the operation too.




I use these and can even kneel on gravel, just got done painting my
foundation.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Super-Soft-V...em418483 74d3
They have changed me back to doing alot of home repairs. Good and bad,ha.

JAS

No, when I get to the stage that I need knee pads, I'll pop down to my local flooring installation supply store and ask the counter staff there what their customers like best.

When your job involves crawling around all day long on a floor, you need really good knee pads.

On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 19:23:34 -0400, wrote:

On Sat, 02 Aug 2014 05:49:58 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Fri, 01 Aug 2014 20:27:45 -0400, wrote:


I had it done a couple of years ago. Best decision that I ever made.
Knee is in perfect shape, if I have to kneel a lot, I use a small
pillow under the knee - no big deal, entirely comfortable.

I have no personal experience with joint transplants.

But what about those knee pads that attach to the leg with a wide
elastic band around the whole leg. Contractors use them when they have
to be on their knees all day.
I use them for working around the yard on gravel. Aside from slipping
down periodically, they work - but, for intermittent use on both
gravel and the garage floor I find a small pillow fo be more effective
and easy to maneuver.

What my mother wanted was a piece of wood maybe 12" wide by 10" deep,
with casters on the 4 corners. I made her one, she put a layer of
reverse-dimpled rubber on it to make it softer, and I think she used it
a lot. Not sure though, I don't think I ever saw her use it, but I was
away all day every day.

See the paragraph above that starts with "I had it done" - my thoughts
exactly.

Do football players use them?

I've used them, I forget why


**I did have shoulder surgery 35 years ago, for a frequently dislocating
shoulder.. About December 15, lots of snow in NY, didn't take my
girlfriend anywhere for New years Eve, because I'm a pansy. In the
waiting room, waiting for a follow-up check-up, as is the guy sitting
across from me. Now he's a man. Had the surgery a week later than I,
Dec 22, and still took his girlfriend out on NYE. Slipped on the snow,
wrenched his arm, he's there to see what he did to himself. After his
apointment, I ask him. He says the doctor said they wouldn't know until
it healed and he saw if it was actually better. So months more of doubt
and maybe all that money and time wasted. Some times it's better to
be a pansy.


As a result of the surgery, my knee cap is thin. The surgeon told me
to insure that during rehab they do not press hard on the knee cap,
told the rehab folks, no problem.
I was walking within 24 hours of the surgery with assistance, climbing
steps up and down 3 days later. Down is harder than up. Lead with the
new knee.
Good luck, hth

On Thursday, July 31, 2014 6:56:03 PM UTC-4, nestork wrote:
I am scheduled to have my left knee replaced in December of 2014. I

have been told two things:



A.) That I will be able to kneel on the artificial knee after the

surgery, but it will feel awful to do so.



B.) That even though it feels awful to kneel on an artificial knee, it

won't do any harm to the knee or my legs.



I find that I have to do a fair bit of kneeling looking after my

apartment block and am concerned I may not be able to look after it if I

can't kneel down.



I'm interested in hearing from people in here that have had knee

replacement surgery who can tell me how bad the problem of kneeling will

be. I am especially interested in hearing from people who've had their

knees replaced or know people who have well enough to know if they can

kneel, and how much discomfort there is associated with kneeling.



This is like a Y2K question. I've never had a knee replaced, and so I

don't know how bad the kneeling problem will be. And ignorance is

fertile ground for the imagination to run wild. I don't know if it will

just feel a little bit uncomfortable or if it will be excruciatingly

painful or where on that scale kneeling will fall. Hearing what people

who've had this surgery done will help me know what I'm up against.



PS: Here in Winnipeg, the Concordia Hospital Hip and Knee Institute is

a veritable hip and knee replacement factory. I've heard that they

replace about 1600 knees a year there, and an approximately equal number

of hips. Assuming 250 working days per year, that's about 6 knees and 6

hips every single working day of the year. It's no wonder that they get

the patients up and walking within a day or two of the surgery; they

have to get those people out to make room for the new people coming in!

But, truth be told, I am glad I am living in a time when replacing knees

and hips is medically feasible. When I was born, it wasn't. If you had

bad arthritis in your knees or hips, you walked with a cane or a walker

and that's just how things were. Now, they can replace worn out knees

and hips with artificial ones that allow people to walk normally, run,

ride a bicycle, climb a ladder and even dance. But, they just can't

kneel comfortably.









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nestork

Check with your doctor to see if partial knee replacement would work in your case. My hospital has been considering getting a surgical robot for partial knee replacement and several hospitals in the area already have them. Information at http://www.makoplasty.com/

Paul