I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA



--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 12:52:40 PM UTC-4, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one

key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed

the local Nissan dealer and they said:



"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing

keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the

key fob is $131.39. Let me know."



This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current

key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed

("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no

key?



Ahh, progress!



Any suggestions?



TIA







--

"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

My wife bought a used Volvo with only one key and remote; the cost for duplicates was about what you mentioned. Think of it as insurance to lessen the chance of getting your car stolen; protection money.

Paul

"KenK" wrote in message
...
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA


look in the owners manual to see if there are instructions for programming a
new key yourself. With my old Ford, I got a couple keys at the dealer (not
sure of cost, but not what you are quoting) and programmed them myself.
Something like "put programmed key in, turn key on three times, put new key
in, turn key on and leave it, scratch your left ball three times . . ."

On 5/14/14, 12:52 PM, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA




It is a common mis-conception that the keys are programmed. Actually
it is the car's computer that is told (programmed) to accept the
PIN/Serial # that is embedded in the new key.

That's why, on some makes, only a dealer with the right computer
software can program the car to accept a new key.

However some locksmiths have gone to the expense of obtaining this
software, and are capable of doing the programming.

Also, some makes of cars allow the owner to program the car computer
thru a series of steps involving have a existing, working key, and a
lot of button pushing in the right order, to add a new key. That's
probably what your local shop would be doing.

Read your owner's manual and see if it gives D-I-Y instructions.

On 5/14/2014 11:52 AM, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA

I spent $12 for a chip key from Amazon and Homedepot cut it for free
(ace hardware refused to cut it for any price). I was able to program
the key in the ignition of our Taurus in about 30 seconds
by following instructions in the owners manual.

tom wrote:
On 5/14/2014 11:52 AM, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA

I spent $12 for a chip key from Amazon and Homedepot cut it for free (ace
hardware refused to cut it for any price). I was able to program the key
in the ignition of our Taurus in about 30 seconds
by following instructions in the owners manual.

Speaking of Home Depot, I recently had a padlock key cut by their Laser
Cutting machine.

The operator put the original key in one compartment and pressed a button.
A few seconds later the key blank number appeared on the screen. He grabbed
the corresponding key blank from his stash of blanks and put it in a
different compartment. He pressed another button and a short time later, my
new key was done.

There was a can on the counter near the machine with a label that read
"Mid-Cut Keys" I asked him how many faulty keys he ends up with. He pointed
to the laser machine and said "With this machine, none. The can is because
of _that_ machine...", pointing to the traditional key cutting machine.

On 05/14/2014 09:52 AM, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

That's why it's called the stealership.

Jon

On 14 May 2014 16:52:40 GMT, KenK wrote:

I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper?

The dealer is always expensive.

Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Yes, No.

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

You can buy spare keys online and get someone local to cut it, but
generally I think they would charge enough extra to cut it that you
almost might as well buy the key from the locksmith. I know of one
case where he charged no more, but that was a I believe a close-knit
communtiy where people do favors for each other.

You can buy a fob online too. The instructions for my 2000 Toyota are
not the owners manual, but they are in the shop manual. Of course the
shop manual costs over 100 dollars. However there are webpages that
tell you how to program just about any car. The one I rmember is very
boring, almost entirely black, with a little box to enter Make, then
Year, etc. The instructions it gives for my car are the same that are
in the shop manual. I guess I'd find the instruction before I bought
the fob.

Unfortunately I can't get my car into programming mode, because the fob
receiver has failed. Bought a used one for 45, also bad. A new one is
about 450 dollars!

Never buyin' a foreign car again. Certainly not a Toyota (for other
reasons too.)

TIA

On 5/14/2014 12:52 PM, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA



Is it a basic transponder key or a key with an attached fob?

I bought an extra fob and key for my wife's Saturn for around $50 at
Ikeyless.com. THOUGH, I do have to have it cut and programmed as well.
The bad part is her fob cannot be programmed by me via the cars computer
and must be taken in to have done, but I won't have a dealer do it.
There are locksmiths who specialize with autos and they can do it
cheaper. As was suggested, check your manual first. If it can't be done
by you, choose a locksmith.

Here are the keys and fob for your car.....
https://ikeyless.com/vehicles/Nissan/Versa/2012/

On Wed, 14 May 2014 19:30:38 -0400, micky
wrote:


You can buy spare keys online and get someone local to cut it, but
generally I think they would charge enough extra to cut it that you
almost might as well buy the key from the locksmith. I know of one
case where he charged no more, but that was a I believe a close-knit
communtiy where people do favors for each other.

BTW, in addition to getting more chip keys, you should get one or more
non-chip keys cut to fit your car. So if you don't have a chip key, at
least you can open the doors and the trunk. You won't be able to start
the car, (unless maybe you hide a chip key in the trunk somewhere.)

A codger at HD refused to cut the key saying it wouldn't work, but I
insisted and he sold me the blank and cut it, at the regular price.

You might also want to look into valet keys. On the LeBaron, the
valet key was a copy of the non-valet key, but on a blank that wouldn't
fit in the trunk or glove compartment. If you had to leave your car to
be repaired, and he didnt' ahve to get in the trunk, you could leave
that key. He could still run to the locksmith and make a complete key,
but most people won't do that.

On other cars the key is cut differently at the tip. If you don't have
one already, maybe you could borrow someone else's just to do the tip,
but I'd probably just forget it.

You can buy a fob online too. The instructions for my 2000 Toyota are
not the owners manual, but they are in the shop manual. Of course the
shop manual costs over 100 dollars. However there are webpages that
tell you how to program just about any car. The one I rmember is very
boring, almost entirely black, with a little box to enter Make, then
Year, etc. The instructions it gives for my car are the same that are
in the shop manual. I guess I'd find the instruction before I bought
the fob.

Because a) you may not be able to find them for some reason, b) because
maybe yours is a car that can't be done by the owner.

Unfortunately I can't get my car into programming mode, because the fob
receiver has failed. Bought a used one for 45, also bad. A new one is
about 450 dollars!

Never buyin' a foreign car again. Certainly not a Toyota (for other
reasons too.)

TIA

KenK posted for all of us...

And I know how to SNIP


I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA

Short answer, because the can...

The local ACE will read the chip on your existing key and duplicate it on
the new keys chip. $75 IIRC

--
Tekkie

On 14 May 2014 16:52:40 GMT, KenK wrote:

I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA
It's a heck of a lot easier to program a third key than a second. The
simple way requires 2 working keys to add a third, forth, or fifth
key.

Cutting the key is not an issue - anyone who can cut a non-chipped key
can cut a chipped key.

On 5/14/2014 7:30 PM, micky wrote:

Never buyin' a foreign car again. Certainly not a Toyota (for other
reasons too.)

Keys for my last two Sonata cost 85 cents. No programming needed.

Not sure about the 2013 model though, as it is the push button start.

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:20:06 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:

There was a can on the counter near the machine with a label that read

"Mid-Cut Keys" I asked him how many faulty keys he ends up with. He pointed

to the laser machine and said "With this machine, none. The can is because

of _that_ machine...", pointing to the traditional key cutting machine.

I will assume you mean "miss-cut" and with ANY key machine most mistakes are in the correct positioning of each key whether master or blank!

Bob_Villa wrote:
On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 1:20:06 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:

There was a can on the counter near the machine with a label that read

"Mid-Cut Keys" I asked him how many faulty keys he ends up with. He pointed

to the laser machine and said "With this machine, none. The can is because

of _that_ machine...", pointing to the traditional key cutting machine.

I will assume you mean "miss-cut" and with ANY key machine most mistakes
are in the correct positioning of each key whether master or blank!

Yes, that was a typo...mis-cut.

I'm guessing the laser machine has a bit of tolerance and/or a holder in
each compartment that positions the key and blank exactly where it needs to
be.

My 2002 chevy venture uses chipped keys. About 90 bucks from the dealer, must prove ownership, identity, title to vehicle, a whole list of security stuff for a old vehicle

Wallmart sells the chipped key for 35 bucks. depending on the store.

you tube has a video of how to bypass the system. Basically get a sensor, attach a chipped key permantely to the sensor. Add a relay so when you turn the key, a non chipped regular key trips the relay, activates the chipped key and sensor....

On 14 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

look in the owners manual to see if there are instructions for
programming a new key yourself. With my old Ford, I got a couple
keys at the dealer (not sure of cost, but not what you are
quoting) and programmed them myself. Something like "put
programmed key in, turn key on three times, put new key in, turn
key on and leave it, scratch your left ball three times . . ."

I tried that. I bought an unprogrammed key off eBay which came with
specific instructions for my car (a Mercury Grand Marquis.) I never
could get it to work.

On Wed, 14 May 2014 18:54:32 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

My 2002 chevy venture uses chipped keys. About 90 bucks from the dealer, must prove ownership, identity, title to vehicle, a whole list of security stuff for a old vehicle

Wallmart sells the chipped key for 35 bucks. depending on the store.

you tube has a video of how to bypass the system. Basically get a sensor,

Isn't there already a sensor under the dash? Near the keyhole.

attach a chipped key permantely to the sensor.

Yes. You can even use a broken key, as long as the head has the chip
in it **

Add a relay so when you turn the key,

If you use the sensor under the dash, it's already connected to a relay.
And that relay is already connected to the starter motor as it should
be.

If you want to learn more about this, read the instructions for
installing a remote-start system, which is often part of a burglar
alarm. I wondered how they bypassed the need for a smart key, and they
don't. They have you take one and attach it to the chip-key sensor,
which is under the dash and near the keyhole.

For that matter, you can use a non-chip key to start the car, if a chip
key is on the same key ring. That second key will be almost as close to
the original sensor as the key in the keyslot will be, and that's always
or usually close enough to the sensor to work.

a non chipped regular key trips the relay, activates the chipped key and sensor....


**But there is a procedure for matching the key to the sensor, just like
any new key. On my car, when I start to match keys, it unmatches all
previous keys and both new keys and old ones have to then be matched.
It goes very quickly once you've tried 2 or 3 times.

bob haller wrote:
My 2002 chevy venture uses chipped keys. About 90 bucks from the dealer,
must prove ownership, identity, title to vehicle, a whole list of
security stuff for a old vehicle

Wallmart sells the chipped key for 35 bucks. depending on the store.

you tube has a video of how to bypass the system. Basically get a sensor,
attach a chipped key permantely to the sensor. Add a relay so when you
turn the key, a non chipped regular key trips the relay, activates the
chipped key and sensor....

Older remote starters used to require that you use that method. I recall
giving the installer a key, after which he went in the back and ground the
teeth off so it couldn't be used to start the car. He then attached the key
to a sensor and mounted it under the dash.

On Wed, 14 May 2014 20:29:16 -0400, wrote:

On 14 May 2014 16:52:40 GMT, KenK wrote:

I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only one
key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I emailed
the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all existing
keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra key fob, the
key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my current
key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a programmed
("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I end up with no
key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA
It's a heck of a lot easier to program a third key than a second. The
simple way requires 2 working keys to add a third, forth, or fifth
key.

That's what I've read too, more than once, but the instructions for the
2000 Toyota didn't seem to care how many keys one already had, as long
as there was one to turn the ignition on and off. I guess that one had
to be working-chip-connected key.

And my friend with the Nissan Versa only had one key. I don't think he
had a particulary hard time getting the second one to work. I can ask
him.

Cutting the key is not an issue - anyone who can cut a non-chipped key
can cut a chipped key.

Yes.

On Wed, 14 May 2014 22:52:31 -0400, Nil
wrote:

On 14 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

look in the owners manual to see if there are instructions for
programming a new key yourself. With my old Ford, I got a couple
keys at the dealer (not sure of cost, but not what you are
quoting) and programmed them myself. Something like "put
programmed key in, turn key on three times, put new key in, turn
key on and leave it, scratch your left ball three times . . ."

I tried that. I bought an unprogrammed key off eBay which came with
specific instructions for my car (a Mercury Grand Marquis.) I never
could get it to work.

The problem with my car, a 2000 Toyota, is that the fob receiver is
broken, and I can't get the system to go into programming mode. It also
would drain the battery. I bought a second hand one from Ebay, (40
instead of 350 dollars) and it appears to also be broken, in a different
way. It doesn't drain the battery AT ALL (even though normally some
current has to be used waiting for the driver to push the button on the
fob)

So it's possible that another part in the car is preventing the key from
getting programmed, though of course I'm not saying that's what'
happening.

On Wednesday, May 14, 2014 8:22:05 PM UTC-5, DerbyDad03 wrote:

I'm guessing the laser machine has a bit of tolerance and/or a holder in

each compartment that positions the key and blank exactly where it needs to

be.

Now you're assuming... *L* You still need to set-up correctly with any precision machine.

In article ,
Tekkie(R) wrote:

The local ACE will read the chip on your existing key and duplicate it on
the new keys chip. $75 IIRC

When I needed another chip key for a 2004 Toyota, the local Ace store
was able to make a copy. I think it was less than $75, but don't recall.

The copy is a little bulkier than the original, since it has battery
powered electronics. Ace can also replace the battery if it runs down.
You might be able to replace it yourself if you can figure out how to
get the key knob apart without breaking it.

I also had a non-chip copy made to keep in my wallet. It won't start
the car, but will open the doors.

Fred

Meanie wrote in :

On 5/14/2014 12:52 PM, KenK wrote:
I have a Nissan Versa 2012 Standard Edition purchased used with only
one key and fob. I'd like to get a duplicate key in case of loss. I
emailed the local Nissan dealer and they said:

"The key for that vehicle runs $48.82 plus $50.00 to program all
existing keys and new key. Also if you are looking to get an extra
key fob, the key fob is $131.39. Let me know."

This is outrageous. A local lock shop says they can duplicate my
current key for $65. Why so much cheaper? Is it safe to duplicate a
programmed ("chipped") key - any possibility they can damage it so I
end up with no key?

Ahh, progress!

Any suggestions?

TIA



Is it a basic transponder key or a key with an attached fob?

Basic transponder key. Fob is separate and controls door locks and beeps
horn.

I bought an extra fob and key for my wife's Saturn for around $50 at
Ikeyless.com. THOUGH, I do have to have it cut and programmed as well.
The bad part is her fob cannot be programmed by me via the cars
computer and must be taken in to have done, but I won't have a dealer
do it. There are locksmiths who specialize with autos and they can do
it cheaper. As was suggested, check your manual first. If it can't be
done by you, choose a locksmith.

Here are the keys and fob for your car.....
https://ikeyless.com/vehicles/Nissan/Versa/2012/

The programming of the key, such as that from your link, frightens me
(everything frightens me!). I'm afraid of the key I have's programing
being damaged and having no way to use my expensive car. All just for a
backup key in case I lose the original. In some 65 years of driving I
can't recall losing a car key. Locking it in the car, mis-laying it
briefly yes, but never losing it. Confirmed worry-wart.




--
"Where there's smoke there's toast!" Anon

On Thu, 15 May 2014 06:45:06 -0400, micky
wrote:

On Wed, 14 May 2014 18:54:32 -0700 (PDT), bob haller
wrote:

My 2002 chevy venture uses chipped keys. About 90 bucks from the dealer, must prove ownership, identity, title to vehicle, a whole list of security stuff for a old vehicle

Wallmart sells the chipped key for 35 bucks. depending on the store.

you tube has a video of how to bypass the system. Basically get a sensor,

Isn't there already a sensor under the dash? Near the keyhole.

Let me put this more firmly. There already is a sensor of there would
be no way to detect a chip key now. It's all connected to everything.

Use it.

"Nil" wrote in message
...
On 14 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

look in the owners manual to see if there are instructions for
programming a new key yourself. With my old Ford, I got a couple
keys at the dealer (not sure of cost, but not what you are
quoting) and programmed them myself. Something like "put
programmed key in, turn key on three times, put new key in, turn
key on and leave it, scratch your left ball three times . . ."

I tried that. I bought an unprogrammed key off eBay which came with
specific instructions for my car (a Mercury Grand Marquis.) I never
could get it to work.

maybe it was the RIGHT ball.

On 15 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

"Nil" wrote in message
...

I tried that. I bought an unprogrammed key off eBay which came with
specific instructions for my car (a Mercury Grand Marquis.) I never
could get it to work.

maybe it was the RIGHT ball.

I look forward to testing your theory!

"Nil" wrote in message
...
On 15 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

"Nil" wrote in message
...

I tried that. I bought an unprogrammed key off eBay which came with
specific instructions for my car (a Mercury Grand Marquis.) I never
could get it to work.

maybe it was the RIGHT ball.

I look forward to testing your theory!

gulp! You DO know it is the vehicle owner's ball we are talking about,
right?

"micky" wrote in message

stuff snipped

You can buy a fob online too. The instructions for my 2000 Toyota are
not the owners manual, but they are in the shop manual. Of course the
shop manual costs over 100 dollars. However there are webpages that
tell you how to program just about any car. The one I rmember is very
boring, almost entirely black, with a little box to enter Make, then
Year, etc. The instructions it gives for my car are the same that are
in the shop manual. I guess I'd find the instruction before I bought
the fob.

Because a) you may not be able to find them for some reason, b) because
maybe yours is a car that can't be done by the owner.

When thieves tried to steal my van, the RF key saved it, so I am happy to
have it. But the repair shop only gave me ONE replacement key. That, in
turn, made programming another impossible using the in-car method, which I
found out only after buying a replacement key from Ebay for $12.

The in-car programming in my case requires the use of TWO original keys to
program a third. I suspect that's a safety feature the prevents someone
with temporary access to one key, like a valet parker, from cloning your
key. Despite all the research I did, I didn't discover this "gotcha" until
after the fact. The ACE guys said the key couldn't be programmed but I
would have said that too since they charge about $80 to clone a key. I
suspect he was actually telling the truth since my key looked much like the
factory model and their keys are very much bigger.

--
Bobby G.

On 15 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

"Nil" wrote in message
...
On 15 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

"Nil" wrote in message
...

I tried that. I bought an unprogrammed key off eBay which came
with specific instructions for my car (a Mercury Grand
Marquis.) I never could get it to work.

maybe it was the RIGHT ball.

I look forward to testing your theory!

gulp! You DO know it is the vehicle owner's ball we are talking
about, right?

Yes!

On 5/16/2014 8:32 PM, Nil wrote:
On 15 May 2014, "Pico Rico" wrote in
alt.home.repair:

maybe it was the RIGHT ball.

I look forward to testing your theory!

gulp! You DO know it is the vehicle owner's ball we are talking
about, right?

Yes!

So, to program the key, you have to summon the NG
poster from a couple days ago and scratch whose
uh, hmm, exactly?

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