I have a jenn-air dishwasher jdb1080awb. The front panel lights do not fully display and the touch control doesn't seem to respond. When I push the start button, the dishwasher hums for a couple of mins and shuts down. Do you think the controller board is faulty? I opened up the door and everything looks fine. No louse connections. I think that the touch controls are bad because they take a lot of wear. That seems to cost $170, which seems to be good chunk of the price of a dishwasher which cost $1000 18 years ago.

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:13:46 PM UTC-5, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a jenn-air dishwasher jdb1080awb. The front panel lights do not fully display and the touch control doesn't seem to respond. When I push the start button, the dishwasher hums for a couple of mins and shuts down. Do you think the controller board is faulty? I opened up the door and everything looks fine. No louse connections. I think that the touch controls are bad because they take a lot of wear. That seems to cost $170, which seems to be good chunk of the price of a dishwasher which cost $1000 18 years ago.

I see the control panel for $140
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/wh...ap4364294.html

control board for $120
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/wh...ap4009231.html


http://www.repairclinic.com/Jenn-Air...Touchpad-Parts

ideally, I'd like just the touchpad, but don't know where to find that separately.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 21:36:56 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:13:46 PM UTC-5, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a jenn-air dishwasher jdb1080awb. The front panel lights do not fully display and the touch control doesn't seem to respond. When I push the start button, the dishwasher hums for a couple of mins and shuts down. Do you think the controller board is faulty? I opened up the door and everything looks fine. No louse connections. I think that the touch controls are bad because they take a lot of wear. That seems to cost $170, which seems to be good chunk of the price of a dishwasher which cost $1000 18 years ago.

I see the control panel for $140
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/wh...ap4364294.html

control board for $120
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/wh...ap4009231.html


http://www.repairclinic.com/Jenn-Air...Touchpad-Parts

ideally, I'd like just the touchpad, but don't know where to find that separately.

Ebay? Maybe they sell dishwashers part by part as they sell cars?

Or maybe you can find a repair place that saves parts and sells them.

It used to be possible to take apart push button panels and clean the
contacts. I never tried this capacitance touch control. Is that what
you have or do you have to actually move the buttons at least a bit.

Still, why do you think it's the touch control? Because the buttons
don't work? That might just be the control board. or it's related
parts. Lights dim? Power supply? What kind of lights are they?

Still, why do you think it's the touch control? Because the buttons

don't work? That might just be the control board. or it's related

parts. Lights dim? Power supply? What kind of lights are they?

The light that shows the hour delay until washing is dim and only displays the 8 oclock position. BTW, I do see a control board on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dishwasher-C...em43bf57 13b3

This one looks a bit dated 25 yo or so, but then I don't know the state of the art in that field.

Aren't they all alike? After all, what sophistcated electronics can there be on such a beast?

I think the touchpad is not working because it takes the most wear. Some interal faulty connection is messing everything else up. Just a guess, but if I were to start replaceing parts, that's where I'd start.
The washer hums a bit, so it sounds as if it is receiving power, but there might be different circuits.

"Deodiaus" wrote
The washer hums a bit, so it sounds as if it is receiving power, but there might be different circuits.

What tune is it humming? Can you dance to it?

"I. P. Freely" wrote in message ...
"Deodiaus" wrote
The washer hums a bit, so it sounds as if it is receiving power, but there might be different circuits.

- What tune is it humming? Can you dance to it?

Try this...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CwR3Eo3KDZQ&t=1m02s

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:




Still, why do you think it's the touch control? Because the buttons

don't work? That might just be the control board. or it's related

parts. Lights dim? Power supply? What kind of lights are they?

The light that shows the hour delay until washing is dim and only displays the 8 oclock position. BTW, I do see a control board on ebay
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dishwasher-C...em43bf57 13b3

This one looks a bit dated 25 yo or so, but then I don't know the state of the art in that field.

Aren't they all alike?

No. This one says Frigidaire, not even JennAir. I'm sure the air
is the same but not the Jenn.

After all, what sophistcated electronics can there be on such a beast?

I think the touchpad is not working because it takes the most wear. Some interal faulty connection is messing everything else up. Just a guess, but if I were to start replaceing parts, that's where I'd start.
The washer hums a bit, so it sounds as if it is receiving power, but there might be different circuits.

These days, your best bet for fixint this is to find a mechanical
problem. Is something jammed and that's why the washer hums? (Does
it stop because there is a timer that won't let it run in the stalled
position for long?) Is there something stuck in the motor or whatever
the motor drives. There is probably a drain impeller but I don't know
if that starts, runs, when the dishwasher starts. Maybe if there is a
valve that primarily decides if it drains or not, the drain impeller
can run all the time, and maybe that is jambed with a piece of the
machine or a piece of food, maybe a little chicken bone.

(I had the little bone next to the drumstick make it through the
screen at the bottom of my dishwasher, and to all the way to the air
break at the sink before it stuck in the airbrake. This didn't cause
the motor to hum, but it did keep it from draining. But my point is
that a little bone can get into the drain hose. )

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0912132322.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...912132322a.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0912132324.jpg

Maybe this new twerk fad? I've not looked into what is twerking.

"Buddy, do you know the way to Yankee Stadium?"
"No, but if you hum a few bars, maybe I can pick it up."

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Learn about Jesus
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On 9/13/2013 12:36 AM, Deodiaus wrote:
wrote
The washer hums a bit, so it sounds as if it is receiving power, but there might be different circuits.
What tune is it humming? Can you dance to it?

On Friday, September 13, 2013 1:45:05 AM UTC-4, micky wrote:
On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:31:08 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus

wrote:









Still, why do you think it's the touch control? Because the buttons



don't work? That might just be the control board. or it's related



parts. Lights dim? Power supply? What kind of lights are they?



The light that shows the hour delay until washing is dim and only displays the 8 oclock position. BTW, I do see a control board on ebay

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dishwasher-C...em43bf57 13b3



This one looks a bit dated 25 yo or so, but then I don't know the state of the art in that field.



Aren't they all alike?



No. This one says Frigidaire, not even JennAir. I'm sure the air

is the same but not the Jenn.



After all, what sophistcated electronics can there be on such a beast?



I think the touchpad is not working because it takes the most wear. Some interal faulty connection is messing everything else up. Just a guess, but if I were to start replaceing parts, that's where I'd start.

The washer hums a bit, so it sounds as if it is receiving power, but there might be different circuits.



These days, your best bet for fixint this is to find a mechanical

problem.

The big problem here is it's 18 years old. Unless it's something
obvious and that doesn't cost much to fix, I wouldn't be putting
$$$ into *trying* to fix it. You buy a board for $125 and it
doesn't solve it, then what? Usually electrical parts are not
returnable. Plus, I'd bet a $300 dishwasher today does a better
job washing dishes than the $1000 one that's 18 years old.

On 9/13/2013 12:36 AM, Deodiaus wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:13:46 PM UTC-5, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a jenn-air dishwasher jdb1080awb. The front panel lights do not fully display and the touch control doesn't seem to respond. When I push the start button, the dishwasher hums for a couple of mins and shuts down. Do you think the controller board is faulty? I opened up the door and everything looks fine. No louse connections. I think that the touch controls are bad because they take a lot of wear. That seems to cost $170, which seems to be good chunk of the price of a dishwasher which cost $1000 18 years ago.

I see the control panel for $140
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/wh...ap4364294.html

control board for $120
http://www.appliancepartspros.com/wh...ap4009231.html


http://www.repairclinic.com/Jenn-Air...Touchpad-Parts

ideally, I'd like just the touchpad, but don't know where to find that separately.


Why the touchpad? If the machine hums and then stops, it means the
touchpad did something to make it hum. It may be the board, it may be
the valve or motor that is humming. Find out what is humming. You need
a better diagnosis to find the real problem, not just throwing money and
new parts at it. Hum like the solenoid on the fill valve? Motor won't
start?

At 18 years old, you may want to think about replacement before you toss
a lot of money for parts you are not sure of. An alternative is to
spend $75 to $100 for a service call by a qualified tech. Better to
spend $100 for a proper diagnosis than $200 for the wrong parts.

On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:13:46 PM UTC-5, Deodiaus wrote:
I have a jenn-air dishwasher jdb1080awb. The front panel lights do not fully display and the touch control doesn't seem to respond. When I push the start button, the dishwasher hums for a couple of mins and shuts down. Do you think the controller board is faulty? I opened up the door and everything looks fine. No louse connections. I think that the touch controls are bad because they take a lot of wear. That seems to cost $170, which seems to be good chunk of the price of a dishwasher which cost $1000 18 years ago.

Bad pushbuttons might show up as a failure to respond to a push, but they would probably NOT show up as a partial display.

On Thu, 12 Sep 2013 22:51:29 -0700 (PDT), Deodiaus
wrote:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0912132322.jpg
https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...912132322a.jpg

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/...0912132324.jpg

One thing is for sure. This board doesn't look anything like the ebay
baord.

When I took it out, I see that the dishwasher was made in 2004. My bad, the house is 18 yo, so I was wrong to think it was as old as the house.
The thing that makes me think it is the touchpad is that the touchpad does not seem to always respond. Also, it is the item with the most wear, so I'd think it is most likily to fail.

Would it make sence to change the touch keys individually, as I have such a key on my range fan. I guess it would look ugly?

On Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:53:09 PM UTC-4, Deodiaus wrote:
When I took it out, I see that the dishwasher was made in 2004. My bad, the house is 18 yo, so I was wrong to think it was as old as the house.

The thing that makes me think it is the touchpad is that the touchpad does not seem to always respond. Also, it is the item with the most wear, so I'd think it is most likily to fail.

By that do you mean the touchpad did not always respond before
this current problem? That you had to push the same button
a few times, and then it would finally do what it was supposed to?
Did it gradually get worse?
If so, then I would agree it sounds like the touchpad. But, are
the lights part of that or a separate item? If they are separate,
then since they don't fully light, that would seem to indicate
that something more or something else is faulty.

And you said it hummed? Where does the hum seem to be coming
from and what does it sound like? Motor running with no water?
Motor locked and not rotating? Something else? The fact that
it hums would also suggest that it's more than just the touchpad.

The problem as I stated before is that with any of these things,
that are older, even 9 years old, the question is how much money
are you gonna throw at it trying to fix it? If you call an
appliance repair pro, that gets expensive quick. If you try
to DIY, especially if you don't have experience and the necessary
skill set, you could be buying expensive, non-returnable parts,
only to find out it wasn't the problem. I guess if the thing
has to be Jenn-Air because everthing else is, then a new one is
going to be a lot and it may be worth fixing. Otherwise there
are some good DW out there starting at $300 or so. I bought a GE Profile on Ebay for $175 7 years ago and it's still working.

On Sunday, September 15, 2013 2:55:26 PM UTC-4, Deodiaus wrote:
Would it make sence to change the touch keys individually, as I have such a key on my range fan. I guess it would look ugly?

I don't know how you do that. Any dishwasher or similar that
I've seen in the modern era, they don't have touchpads where
you can change "keys" individually. They are part of an
assembly and you buy the whole thing. What does the parts
diagram that is available online show?

And per above, if you push the button to start it and it
responds by humming, that would seem to suggest that the
button is working and something else is wrong.

On 9/15/2013 2:53 PM, Deodiaus wrote:
When I took it out, I see that the dishwasher was made in 2004. My bad, the house is 18 yo, so I was wrong to think it was as old as the house.
The thing that makes me think it is the touchpad is that the touchpad does not seem to always respond. Also, it is the item with the most wear, so I'd think it is most likily to fail.


Go ahead, even though you have been advised otherwise. Your money.

On Friday, September 13, 2013 11:48:52 AM UTC-4, wrote:
On Thursday, September 12, 2013 11:13:46 PM UTC-5, Deodiaus wrote:

I have a jenn-air dishwasher jdb1080awb. The front panel lights do not fully display and the touch control doesn't seem to respond. When I push the start button, the dishwasher hums for a couple of mins and shuts down. Do you think the controller board is faulty? I opened up the door and everything looks fine. No louse connections. I think that the touch controls are bad because they take a lot of wear. That seems to cost $170, which seems to be good chunk of the price of a dishwasher which cost $1000 18 years ago.



Bad pushbuttons might show up as a failure to respond to a push, but they would probably NOT show up as a partial display.

+1

Also when a button is pushed, it hums. That also suggests that it's
not a pushbutton problem or if the pushbuttons are going bad, that
something else is also wrong.

We need more information on where the "hum" is coming from. Has the OP taken off the lower front panel so he can access the pump/motor with a listening stick to be certain what is humming??

I took out the motor E47088 Model 5KCP122E1AX and put a load across the wires. It did not react.

On Monday, September 16, 2013 11:43:36 PM UTC-4, Deodiaus wrote:
I took out the motor E47088 Model 5KCP122E1AX and put a load across the wires. It did not react.

Do you mean you applied POWER to the motor and it did not react?

Or do you mean you put another LOAD, like a light bulb across
the wires that feed the motor and it didn't light?

On Tuesday, September 17, 2013 6:44:09 AM UTC-5, wrote:
On Monday, September 16, 2013 11:43:36 PM UTC-4, Deodiaus wrote:

I took out the motor E47088 Model 5KCP122E1AX and put a load across the wires. It did not react.


Yes, I took an old powercord and attached the grounded side to the green line and the other side to the other prongs.
BTW, I tried this first to another smaller motor which drains the water and it worked.

The form factor on these motors is different, so its hard to just find another one. I found one on EBay, so I'll see if it works.

Do you mean you applied POWER to the motor and it did not react?



Or do you mean you put another LOAD, like a light bulb across

the wires that feed the motor and it didn't light?