"Coming back to the truck after a game at the stadium or following a
night out with friends, it can come as quite a shock to realize that
thieves have made off with your tailgate. It takes less than 30
seconds for a thief to snatch a pickup tailgate and replacement costs
can amount to $1,000 or more."

Read mo
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/02/13/pickup-truck-tailgates-easy-to-steal-and-thefts-on-rise/?intcmp=features#ixzz2KnbW5UVa

Gives kink to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB).

"Oren" wrote in message
...
"Coming back to the truck after a game at the stadium or following a
night out with friends, it can come as quite a shock to realize that
thieves have made off with your tailgate. It takes less than 30
seconds for a thief to snatch a pickup tailgate and replacement costs
can amount to $1,000 or more."

Read mo
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/02/13/pickup-truck-tailgates-easy-to-steal-and-thefts-on-rise/?intcmp=features#ixzz2KnbW5UVa

Gives kink to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB).

The easy to remove tailgate does make it easy to steal. Many people
probably never remove the tailgates. On my truck I put one of the simple
screw type radiator clamps on it.. That means that you have to take a
screwdriver and loosen to clamp to remove the gate. Probably something the
theives are not going to take time with. Without this, all you have to do
is open the tailgate and pull it off, Takes maybe 5 seconds to do instead
of 30 seconds.

On 2/13/13 12:11 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:


The easy to remove tailgate does make it easy to steal. Many people
probably never remove the tailgates. On my truck I put one of the simple
screw type radiator clamps on it.. That means that you have to take a
screwdriver and loosen to clamp to remove the gate. Probably something the
theives are not going to take time with. Without this, all you have to do
is open the tailgate and pull it off, Takes maybe 5 seconds to do instead
of 30 seconds.

I take it you put the clamp on the slotted end gate pivot point at
the bottom. A good idea. Simple and easy.

"Dean Hoffman" " wrote in message
...
On 2/13/13 12:11 PM, Ralph Mowery wrote:


The easy to remove tailgate does make it easy to steal. Many people
probably never remove the tailgates. On my truck I put one of the simple
screw type radiator clamps on it.. That means that you have to take a
screwdriver and loosen to clamp to remove the gate. Probably something
the
theives are not going to take time with. Without this, all you have to
do
is open the tailgate and pull it off, Takes maybe 5 seconds to do
instead
of 30 seconds.

I take it you put the clamp on the slotted end gate pivot point at the
bottom. A good idea. Simple and easy.



That is correct. That converts that slot to more or less a solid shell. It
is not my origional idea. Friend showed it to me and he found it somewhere
else.

If you have a screwdriver it can be removed in a short period of time. I
never have had any need to remove my tailgate. I don't use it like a truck
very much, but have hauled about 20 loads of wood in the 6 years I have had
it.
This is a Toyota Tacoma that has the slotted piviot point,but I bet there
are others that work similar to it that a $ 2 would fix.

Ralph Mowery wrote:
"Oren" wrote in message
...
"Coming back to the truck after a game at the stadium or following a
night out with friends, it can come as quite a shock to realize that
thieves have made off with your tailgate. It takes less than 30
seconds for a thief to snatch a pickup tailgate and replacement costs
can amount to $1,000 or more."

Read mo
http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/02/13/pickup-truck-tailgates-easy-to-steal-and-thefts-on-rise/?intcmp=features#ixzz2KnbW5UVa

Gives kink to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB).

The easy to remove tailgate does make it easy to steal. Many people
probably never remove the tailgates. On my truck I put one of the
simple screw type radiator clamps on it.. That means that you have
to take a screwdriver and loosen to clamp to remove the gate. Probably
something the theives are not going to take time with. Without this, all
you have to do is open the tailgate and pull it
off, Takes maybe 5 seconds to do instead of 30 seconds.

+1

You can also swap out the opening handle with one that has a lock.

On Thursday, February 14, 2013 8:04:24 AM UTC-5, HeyBub wrote:
Ralph Mowery wrote: "Oren" wrote in message ... "Coming back to the truck after a game at the stadium or following a night out with friends, it can come as quite a shock to realize that thieves have made off with your tailgate. It takes less than 30 seconds for a thief to snatch a pickup tailgate and replacement costs can amount to $1,000 or more." Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/leisure/2013/02/13/pickup-truck-tailgates-easy-to-steal-and-thefts-on-rise/?intcmp=features#ixzz2KnbW5UVa Gives kink to the National Insurance Crime Bureau (NICB). The easy to remove tailgate does make it easy to steal. Many people probably never remove the tailgates. On my truck I put one of the simple screw type radiator clamps on it.. That means that you have to take a screwdriver and loosen to clamp to remove the gate. Probably something the theives are not going to take time with. Without this, all you have to do is open the tailgate and pull it off, Takes maybe 5 seconds to do instead of 30 seconds. +1 You can also swap out the opening handle with one that has a lock.

My tailgate locks so I keep it locked. Drives my wife crazy but keeps it from being stolen.

This may be somewhat off topic, but just in the same way truck tailgates are easy to remove, so too are the oven doors on stoves.

I'm presuming most people don't know that because every tenant I've ever seen in the process of cleaning an oven was doing it with the door still on, and that just makes things hard to do.

Look on the oven hinge for a "hook and loop" arrangement and move the loop over the hook to keep the door hinge spring in tension when the door is off the oven. That will make the doors very much easier to put on because you just reinstall the hinges into the slots on both side of the stove, unhook the loops from the hooks on the door hinges, and the door will work normally again.

Whenever I have to do any cleaning or repairs in an oven, I always remove the doors to make access so much better (so that the job goes easier).

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 21:34:53 +0000, nestork
wrote:


This may be somewhat off topic, but just in the same way truck tailgates
are easy to remove, so too are the oven doors on stoves.

I'm presuming most people don't know that because every tenant I've ever
seen in the process of cleaning an oven was doing it with the door still
on, and that just makes things hard to do.

Look on the oven hinge for a "hook and loop" arrangement and move the
loop over the hook to keep the door hinge spring in tension when the
door is off the oven. That will make the doors very much easier to put
on because you just reinstall the hinges into the slots on both side of
the stove, unhook the loops from the hooks on the door hinges, and the
door will work normally again.

Whenever I have to do any cleaning or repairs in an oven, I always
remove the doors to make access so much better (so that the job goes
easier).

True. When I demonstrated this to my wife, it was like a light bulb
went off. Much easier to clean an oven when the door is off.

wrote

I don't think mine comes off (easily).

You don't know? Be sure, or be surprised.

I was amazed at how simple my Dodge Ram comes off. Absolutely no tools
required, and if I practiced, I think I could get it off in less than ten
seconds, and possibly down as low as five.

Know for sure or be sorry.

Steve

On Fri, 15 Feb 2013 22:49:53 -0700, "Steve B"
wrote:


wrote

I don't think mine comes off (easily).

You don't know? Be sure, or be surprised.

First I've heard of it. Sounds like a dumb idea, though.

I was amazed at how simple my Dodge Ram comes off. Absolutely no tools
required, and if I practiced, I think I could get it off in less than ten
seconds, and possibly down as low as five.

Know for sure or be sorry.

I certainly don't see how it would.

On 2013-02-16, wrote:

First I've heard of it. Sounds like a dumb idea, though.

I'm trying to recall the last p/u I even saw with a tailgate. At
least in CA. Everyone took 'em off and put those silly web belt
thingies on their truck. What was that all about? I assumed it was
cuz of some kinda perceived gas mileage improvement cuz most everyone
hadda commute some insane distance to work.

I'm now in CO and I guess it might be a problem, as everyone here has
their tailgate installed. OTOH, so rural, not much auto theft of any
kind. Probably not an issue, here.

"Pssst.... wanna buy a hot tailgate?" Sorry, I jes can't see it.

nb

notbob wrote:

First I've heard of it. Sounds like a dumb idea, though.

"Pssst.... wanna buy a hot tailgate?" Sorry, I jes can't see it.

Everything in the US that isn't nailed down or under surveillence 24/7
is being stolen.

And this is news to you?

Go do a search for "tailgate" on ebay. You'll find hundreds.

On Sat, 16 Feb 2013 14:39:13 -0500, Me wrote:

Everything in the US that isn't nailed down or under surveillence 24/7
is being stolen.

Sure Home Guy. Same in O Canada.

"...Following a 2012 episode in which a worker died after stealing a
bottle of windshield washer fluid and drinking it over the course of
two days — including on the job — the company that runs Ontario’s Beer
Stores was fined $218,000 for what regulators deemed was a workplace
safety violation."

Found any headless bodies lately?

O Canada O Canada

On 2/15/13 11:49 PM, Steve B wrote:
wrote

I don't think mine comes off (easily).

You don't know? Be sure, or be surprised.

I was amazed at how simple my Dodge Ram comes off. Absolutely no tools
required, and if I practiced, I think I could get it off in less than ten
seconds, and possibly down as low as five.

Know for sure or be sorry.

Steve


Same on Fords. That leaves http://tinyurl.com/cskht2
American Pie. Hint for the youngins "drove my.........
to the ..... but the ....... was dry"

On 02/16/2013 07:47 PM, Dean Hoffman wrote:
On 2/15/13 11:49 PM, Steve B wrote:
wrote

I don't think mine comes off (easily).

You don't know? Be sure, or be surprised.

I was amazed at how simple my Dodge Ram comes off. Absolutely no tools
required, and if I practiced, I think I could get it off in less than ten
seconds, and possibly down as low as five.

Know for sure or be sorry.

Steve


Same on Fords. That leaves http://tinyurl.com/cskht2
American Pie. Hint for the youngins "drove my.........
to the ..... but the ....... was dry"

The old Ch*vy stepsides aren't difficult at all. I don't know about
modern ones.

nate

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On 16 Feb 2013 19:24:51 GMT, notbob wrote:

On 2013-02-16, wrote:

First I've heard of it. Sounds like a dumb idea, though.

I'm trying to recall the last p/u I even saw with a tailgate. At
least in CA. Everyone took 'em off and put those silly web belt
thingies on their truck. What was that all about? I assumed it was
cuz of some kinda perceived gas mileage improvement cuz most everyone
hadda commute some insane distance to work.

There was a rumor some years back that it increased mileage (it
doesn't). Some think the net looks cool (it doesn't). It was a big
thing in VT to leave it down. Dumb.

I'm now in CO and I guess it might be a problem, as everyone here has
their tailgate installed. OTOH, so rural, not much auto theft of any
kind. Probably not an issue, here.

I certainly don't see any pickups missing them anymore. I live in a
very large metro area, too.

"Pssst.... wanna buy a hot tailgate?" Sorry, I jes can't see it.

Color? I have seen some that don't match but they can be explained by
replacement parts from junk yards.

notbob wrote:
On 2013-02-16, wrote:

First I've heard of it. Sounds like a dumb idea, though.

I'm trying to recall the last p/u I even saw with a tailgate. At
least in CA. Everyone took 'em off and put those silly web belt
thingies on their truck. What was that all about? I assumed it was
cuz of some kinda perceived gas mileage improvement cuz most everyone
hadda commute some insane distance to work.

I'm now in CO and I guess it might be a problem, as everyone here has
their tailgate installed. OTOH, so rural, not much auto theft of any
kind. Probably not an issue, here.

"Pssst.... wanna buy a hot tailgate?" Sorry, I jes can't see it.


There is a notion floating around that removing the tailgate improves gas
milage. Mythbusters did a segment on this concept and actually found the
reverse: Tailgate UP is more fuel efficient than tailgate down.

Some in California are eager to believe...

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...onsumption.htm

On Sun, 17 Feb 2013 07:47:37 -0600, "HeyBub"
wrote:

notbob wrote:
On 2013-02-16, wrote:

First I've heard of it. Sounds like a dumb idea, though.

I'm trying to recall the last p/u I even saw with a tailgate. At
least in CA. Everyone took 'em off and put those silly web belt
thingies on their truck. What was that all about? I assumed it was
cuz of some kinda perceived gas mileage improvement cuz most everyone
hadda commute some insane distance to work.

I'm now in CO and I guess it might be a problem, as everyone here has
their tailgate installed. OTOH, so rural, not much auto theft of any
kind. Probably not an issue, here.

"Pssst.... wanna buy a hot tailgate?" Sorry, I jes can't see it.


There is a notion floating around that removing the tailgate improves gas
milage. Mythbusters did a segment on this concept and actually found the
reverse: Tailgate UP is more fuel efficient than tailgate down.

Some in California are eager to believe...

http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/my...onsumption.htm

And there is a difference between tailgate DOWN and tailgate OFF on
some trucks as well.