The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I suspect the programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air conditioner) turns on or turns off?

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The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I suspect the
programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air conditioner) turns on or turns off?

The set point is the temperature you want the room to be, i.e. when the system turns off.

Doug Miller wrote:

"." wrote in
news:e89ffc30-8457-4e16-aa7b-15d667368602 @googlegroups.com:

The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I
suspect the
programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that
means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air
conditioner) turns on or turns off?

The set point is the temperature you want the room to be, i.e. when the
system turns off.

And there will be some hysteresis built in - ie the "on" and "off"
temperatures will be a couple or so degrees apart to prevent rapid firing.

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"." wrote in message
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The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I
suspect the programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that
means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air
conditioner) turns on or turns off?


The set point is the number on the thermostat you see. It is the number
that you put the dial on or if digital , the number you adjust up and down.

If programmable, you probably have several Set Points. That is the
temperature you want the house to be at the time you want.

Say you leave the house at 8:00 every day, you may want to have the
setpoint at 65 deg. If you come home at 5:00 then about 4 or 4:40 you want
to move the set point back to 70 deg so the house will be at 70 deg when you
get home. Then about 10 at night you may want to have the set point at 68
deg for sleep. Then about 5 in the morning you may want to have the set
point at 70 so the house will be warm when you get up.

You will have to adjust the set point to match the temperature you are
comfortabel at. Give the house an hour or two for each degree you move the
set point while trying to find a confortable temperature while you are in
the house.

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:13:09 -0800 (PST), "."
wrote:

The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I suspect the programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air conditioner) turns on or turns off?


Didn't you post this exact same post a couple of months ago ?????

For my thermostat, there's a "COOL" and a "HEAT" mode for "MORNING", "DAY", "EVENING" and "NIGHT".

In the middle of winter, I don't want "COOL".

How do I programming it for "HEAT" only?

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 12:00:58 -0800 (PST), "."
wrote:

For my thermostat, there's a "COOL" and a "HEAT" mode for "MORNING", "DAY", "EVENING" and "NIGHT".

In the middle of winter, I don't want "COOL".

How do I programming it for "HEAT" only?


TROLL alert !!!!

I'll repeat my earlier question:

On my thermostat, there's a "COOL" and a "HEAT" mode for "MORNING", "DAY", "EVENING" and "NIGHT". In the middle of winter, I don't want "COOL". How do I programming it for "HEAT" only?

On 12/28/2012 3:00 PM, . wrote:
I'll repeat my earlier question:

On my thermostat, there's a "COOL" and a "HEAT" mode for "MORNING", "DAY", "EVENING" and "NIGHT". In the middle of winter, I don't want "COOL". How do I programming it for "HEAT" only?

You do that by setting the "cool" temp to something like 85 degrees.

Paul

On Fri, 28 Dec 2012 09:13:09 -0800 (PST), "."
wrote:

The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I suspect the programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air conditioner) turns on or turns off?

Push the switch to the "heat" position

On 12/28/2012 11:13 AM, . wrote:
The temperature in my home is always either too hot or too cold so I suspect the programmable thermostat is not set correctly.

The owner's manual mentions "set point" but it's not clear what that means.

Is the "setpoint" the temperature at which the furnace (or air conditioner) turns on or turns off?


I would expect it to be half way between the two temperatures. For
example, set it to 70 and the heat comes on at 68 and goes off at 72.

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On Dec 28, 2:00*pm, "." wrote:
For my thermostat, there's a "COOL" and a "HEAT" mode for "MORNING", "DAY", "EVENING" and "NIGHT".

In the middle of winter, I don't want "COOL".

How do I programming it for "HEAT" only?

Didn't the thermostat come with an instruction book, or if not, did
you contact the manufacturer?????

"Set the 'cool' temp to something like 85 degrees)".
"Push the switch to the "heat" position"

Which one should I do or should I do both?

.. formulated the question :
"Set the 'cool' temp to something like 85 degrees)".
"Push the switch to the "heat" position"

Which one should I do or should I do both?

Since you are too stupid to have a name how could we expect you to R T
F M.

Please try and understand your own problem before asking stupid
questions.

If you do not know, RTFM means READ THE Fantastic (F******) Manual :-Z

--
John G

On 12/29/2012 2:27 AM, John G wrote:
. formulated the question :
"Set the 'cool' temp to something like 85 degrees)".
"Push the switch to the "heat" position"

Which one should I do or should I do both?

Since you are too stupid to have a name how could we expect you to R T F M.

Please try and understand your own problem before asking stupid questions.

If you do not know, RTFM means READ THE Fantastic (F******) Manual :-Z


WTF!, Wow That's Fantastic! ^_^

TDD

Hmm, too stupid to have a name, and figure it out?

Your reply sounds like one big huge "fantastic you!".

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"John G" wrote in message
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.. formulated the question :
"Set the 'cool' temp to something like 85 degrees)".
"Push the switch to the "heat" position"

Which one should I do or should I do both?

Since you are too stupid to have a name how could we expect you to R T
F M.

Please try and understand your own problem before asking stupid
questions.

If you do not know, RTFM means READ THE Fantastic (F******) Manual :-Z

--
John G

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:27:12 +1100, John G
wrote:

. formulated the question :
"Set the 'cool' temp to something like 85 degrees)".
"Push the switch to the "heat" position"

Which one should I do or should I do both?

Since you are too stupid to have a name how could we expect you to R T
F M.

Please try and understand your own problem before asking stupid
questions.

If you do not know, RTFM means READ THE Fantastic (F******) Manual :-Z


John, this person asked the same thing about 3 or 4 months ago here. I
remember his first question was exactly the same question as before.
Even if I took it seriously, I can't believe a person wouldn't give
the make or model of the thermostat to help others return the help. Oh
well, I guess he needs attention and this is how he gets some. I
hope he learns how to use his thermostat or he might have one cold
residence grin.

On Dec 29, 7:41*am, Doug wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 19:27:12 +1100, John G
wrote:

. formulated the question :
"Set the 'cool' temp to something like 85 degrees)".
"Push the switch to the "heat" position"

Which one should I do or should I do both?

Since you are too stupid to have a name how could we expect you to R T
F M.

Please try and understand your own problem before asking stupid
questions.

If you do not know, RTFM means READ THE Fantastic (F******) Manual :-Z

John, this person asked the same thing about 3 or 4 months ago here. I
remember his first question was exactly the same question as before.
Even if I took it seriously, I can't believe a person wouldn't give
the make or model of the thermostat to help others return the help. Oh
well, I guess he needs attention and this is how he gets some. * I
hope he learns how to use his thermostat or he might have one cold
residence grin.

Dot has to be a troll, no one could grow up being that stupid.

[When I ask for help, I expect the responses to be helpful (not insulting)].

I have a Totaline Model P474-1035 Programmable 5-2 day Digital Thermostat.

In the owner's manual, in the "Normal Operation" section, the "Manual Thermostat Operation" instructions say to:

1. Set the program switch to "OFF".

2. Set the mode switch to "Heat" or "Cool". (Since I don't need cooling in the winter, I've set the mode switch to "Heat").

3. Set the fan switch to "On" or "Auto". (Since I don't want the fan to run all the time, I've set the fan switch to "Auto").

4. Use the "Up" or "Down" buttons to set the desired temperature. (I've set the desired temperature to 78 degrees)

If the current room temperature is 64 degrees, shouldn't the heat come on immediately or is there a built-in delay?

.. wrote:
[When I ask for help, I expect the responses to be helpful (not
insulting)].

I have a Totaline Model P474-1035 Programmable 5-2 day Digital
Thermostat.

In the owner's manual, in the "Normal Operation" section, the "Manual
Thermostat Operation" instructions say to:

1. Set the program switch to "OFF".

2. Set the mode switch to "Heat" or "Cool". (Since I don't need
cooling in the winter, I've set the mode switch to "Heat").

3. Set the fan switch to "On" or "Auto". (Since I don't want the fan
to run all the time, I've set the fan switch to "Auto").

4. Use the "Up" or "Down" buttons to set the desired temperature.
(I've set the desired temperature to 78 degrees)

If the current room temperature is 64 degrees, shouldn't the heat
come on immediately or is there a built-in delay?

That seems a lot more clear as to what your question is etc.

Since you have the thermostat set up to operate manually, the heat should
come on if the room temperature is 64 and you set the desired temperature to
78. There could be some delay in the heater coming on depending on what
type of heater you have etc., but the delay shouldn't be too long -- I'm
guessing a few minutes at the most.

If the heater isn't coming on, something else is wrong. Does your heater
have a little red indicator light on it that is either staying on constantly
or is blinking? If it is blinking, watch to see what the blinking sequence
is -- such as 3 blinks, etc. Then read the instructions on the front of the
heater that says what the different blinking sequences mean.

.[ 22 ]:

Unfortunately, with the decision to purchase a programmable thermostat comes the obligation to learn how to program that new thermostat. It's like buying a clock radio and going online to find someone to help you figure out how to set the alarm time on it.

Every digital thermostat is different, and you need to find a 1-800 number in the literature that came with it to determine how to program it correctly.

Also every thermostat, whether digital or analog will have an "heat anticipator" setting that needs to be set. A heat anticipator in an analog thermostat is nothing more than a small electric heater that fools the thermostat into thinking the room is warmer than it really is. The reason for having a heat anticipator is that some forms of heating have a long residual heat time. For example, cast iron baseboard radiators will continue to convect heat into the room long after the boiler shuts down. The purpose of the heat anticipator is to heat the be-metallic coil inside the thermostat to fool it into thinking the room is warmer than it really is. That shuts off the boiler early so that the temperature doesn't overshoot the set point be as much as it otherwise would.

Another reason for having a heat anticipator in a thermostat is that the thermostat is typically centrally located in the house or zone being heated, whereas the radiators or heating ducts are located around the perimeter of the house or zone being heated. If the boiler were to continue firing until the temperature at the thermostat was at the set point, the room temperature between the thermostat and the perimeter of the house or zone being heated would be well above the set point. Consequently, the heat anticipator is set to shut the heating system off early so that the average temperature in the house or zone being heated fluctuates about the set point.

Now, your literature will tell you to add up all the amperage draws on all of the thermostats zone valves and everything on the 24 volt AC loop the thermostat is on to determine the heat anticipator setting. As of now, I have yet to find anyone who can explain why the heat anticipator setting should be equal to the current draw of the thermoatat 24 VAC loop. You're best bet is to simply set the heat anticipator setting lower if you find that your furnace is cycling too frequently, and to set your heat anticipator setting higher if you find too long a time between your furnace cycling on and shutting off.

With the desired temperature set at 84 degrees, the room temperature drops to 72 degrees before the heater comes on. Shouldn't the room temperature stay within a couple of degrees of the desired temperature?

The heater has 2 green LED indicator lights. Both lights flash simultaneouly at 3 flashes per second which the chart says is "NORMAL OPERATION - signaled when heating demand initiated by thermostat".

.. wrote:
With the desired temperature set at 84 degrees, the room temperature
drops to 72 degrees before the heater comes on. Shouldn't the room
temperature stay within a couple of degrees of the desired
temperature?

The heater has 2 green LED indicator lights. Both lights flash
simultaneouly at 3 flashes per second which the chart says is "NORMAL
OPERATION - signaled when heating demand initiated by thermostat".

I'm no expert, but all of that sounds normal to me. You set the desired
temp to 84, the thermostat then switches and tells your the current room
temp which is 72, the thermostat is telling the heater that it is calling
for heat and the heater LED's indicate that is what is correctly happening,
and over time the room temp will gradually increase until it reaches the
desired temp that you set (84), and then the heater will turn off.

I expect that also, but I'm uusally disappointed.

Sorry, dot.

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"." wrote in message
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[When I ask for help, I expect the responses to be helpful (not insulting)].

When the heater raises the room temp from 72 degrees to the desired temp (82 degrees), the heater turns off. Then, the room temp drops back down to 72 degrees before the heater comes on again. Is this 10-degree drop "normal"?

On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:44:35 -0800 (PST), "."
wrote:

When the heater raises the room temp from 72 degrees to the desired temp (82 degrees), the heater turns off. Then, the room temp drops back down to 72 degrees before the heater comes on again. Is this 10-degree drop "normal"?


With all the thermostats I've dealt with, no it's not but I never
dealt with your thermostat.

On 12-28-2012 12:13, . wrote:
The temperature ....

Three lines draw more replies than can fit in my window.
I think we have a successful troll.

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there ain't no left wing.
There's only you and me and we just disagree.
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On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:44:35 -0800 (PST), "."
wrote:

When the heater raises the room temp from 72 degrees to the desired temp (82 degrees), the heater turns off. Then, the room temp drops back down to 72 degrees before the heater comes on again. Is this 10-degree drop "normal"?

Yes, what is not normal is heating to 82 degrees. You need to re-bait
the troll line.

On Dec 29, 10:56*pm, Ed Pawlowski wrote:
On Sat, 29 Dec 2012 11:44:35 -0800 (PST), "."
wrote:

When the heater raises the room temp from 72 degrees to the desired temp (82 degrees), the heater turns off. *Then, the room temp drops back down to 72 degrees before the heater comes on again. *Is this 10-degree drop "normal"?

Yes, what is not normal is heating to 82 degrees. *You need to re-bait
the troll line.

The OP left out so much information, it is impossible to give a really
intelligent reply. For example: type of heat, location, type of
dwelling, time of day testing was done, phase of the moon, room where
thermostat is located, why he/she put in a new thermostat/what was
wrong with old one, etc - - - - - .