I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 12:56:34 -0400, Duesenberg wrote:

I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

How long has it been this way without any problems?

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

diy savant wrote in :

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, Han wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, Oren wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, Han wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Han wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.

Huh?

In my town, the fire department's standard is to have the first piece of
equipment* on scene within four minutes after the call. The police average
nine minutes for an emergency call. Both of these standards are pretty good
compared to the national average for a large city.

That said, how long will it take for the gas company to respond to a
reported gas leak? Oh, I'm sure they'll get right on it, but it ain't gonna
be within ten minutes! Whatever time it takes, the house will begin to fill
with gas...

----
* Then there's the rest of the equipment. A couple of years ago, my power
went out. After waiting a few minutes, I stepped outside just to look
around.

In front of my house were FORTY-TWO pieces of fire department equipment! (I
counted them.) There were pumper trucks, ambulances, a cascade unit, a
ladder truck that could reach the stars, even a bus resembling those that
take seniors to the nearby Indian casino for a day of gambling labeled "City
of Houston Mobile Command Center." Everything but a van labeled "Mole
Abatement Unit."

Lord only knows how many pumper trucks were scattered around the
neighborhood hooked up to fire plugs awaiting the call for more water.

All this because of a kitchen fire in an apartment across the street. Must
have been a slow fire day.

"Duesenberg" wrote in message ...
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

Here how to look at it:
if there was a Gas leaks,
and the Gas go into the Vent,
when the dryer is off..

Look like it would be a good way to end of life of,
your dryer, wife,
or home all at one time,
would you say:::::::

So move it,
you ask "hoe"




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On 3/11/2012 5:34 PM, Han wrote:
diy wrote in :

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


My first call would be to the gas company. They tend to take leaks
seriously.

Maybe 5 years ago I would get an occasional wiff of mercaptan (the
odorant in gas) when outside the house. I always assumed it came from
the boiler when it fires.

One day the air was really still and I followed it over to the area by
the meter. I called the gas company and told them what I smelled and
that it was outside. Within a few minutes a gas company truck pulled up
followed by another one. The underground lateral was a steel pipe and it
developed a tiny leak where it came out of the ground. The guy shut off
the gas at the curb. I asked about their quick response and they said
the dispatcher broadcasts when a gas leak is reported and they are
supposed to stop what they are going and go there.

They called it in and within a few hours a construction crew arrived and
dug up the street side. They cut off the old pipe at each end and ran
plastic inside it.

On Mar 12, 7:49*am, "Hot-Text" wrote:
"Duesenberg" wrote in ...
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. *My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

Here how to look at it:
if there was a Gas leaks,
and the Gas go into the Vent,
when the dryer is off..

Look like it would be a good way to end of life of,
your dryer, wife,
or home all at one time,
would you say:::::::

So move it,
you ask "hoe"

Why should he move the dryer vent, which is
3 ft away from the gas meter when the
house has plenty of gas piping and eqpt INSIDE
the house? There are plenty of homes where the
gas meter is actually INSIDE the house. Also, if you look around you
will find lots of houses where the gas meter is
a similar distance from a window that can be opened.
My own house is one of them.

The risk from what he has from a safety standpoint is
minimal.
The real issue to me would be how accessible the
meter is, ie can he get to it to shut it off if necessary
and can the gas company get to it for reading,
service, etc. If it's been that way for awhile and the
gas company isn't bitching, I probably would not start
asking questions.





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On Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:56:34 PM UTC-4, Duesenberg wrote:
So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

Does your dryer shoot flames out the vent on a regular basis?

Does your gas meter leak on a regular basis?

If the dryer is shooting flames out the vent, you've got bigger problems.

Jim Elbrecht wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, Oren wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, Han wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic "bad
leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic "bad
leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.


Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a lot
better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

TDD

George wrote in :

On 3/11/2012 5:34 PM, Han wrote:
diy wrote in
:

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each
other, whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but
the meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet
up but it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but
walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this
is safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


My first call would be to the gas company. They tend to take leaks
seriously.

Maybe 5 years ago I would get an occasional wiff of mercaptan (the
odorant in gas) when outside the house. I always assumed it came from
the boiler when it fires.

One day the air was really still and I followed it over to the area by
the meter. I called the gas company and told them what I smelled and
that it was outside. Within a few minutes a gas company truck pulled
up followed by another one. The underground lateral was a steel pipe
and it developed a tiny leak where it came out of the ground. The guy
shut off the gas at the curb. I asked about their quick response and
they said the dispatcher broadcasts when a gas leak is reported and
they are supposed to stop what they are going and go there.

They called it in and within a few hours a construction crew arrived
and dug up the street side. They cut off the old pipe at each end and
ran plastic inside it.

Ok. Here is my reasoning for calling 911. We have a professional police
dept in Fair Lawn, but a volunteer fire department and ambulance service.
Therefore when you call 911, the police is there usually before the fire
dept or ambulance service (which are excellent as well). PSE&G is the
electric/gas utility. I live on a street of homes on plots like 40x90
feet. In case of a serious gas leak, it would be of utmost importance to
evacuate before things blow. Never heard of anything like that really
close by, but in the greater NY City area those things do happen, both
with gas company notification and without. Luckily my nose for the gas
odorant is very sensitive. In fact whenever we are visiting my son in
Somerville Mass, we walk by a place across from 725 Somerville Ave, next
to the train tracks where it ALWAYS faintly smells of gas, but the
Somerville gas company doesn't believe there is a leak.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

" wrote in news:81589ce1-
:

Why should he move the dryer vent, which is
3 ft away from the gas meter when the
house has plenty of gas piping and eqpt INSIDE
the house? There are plenty of homes where the
gas meter is actually INSIDE the house. Also, if you look around you
will find lots of houses where the gas meter is
a similar distance from a window that can be opened.
My own house is one of them.

I agree. My gas meter is inside, above the gas dryer. Licensed plumbers
have never raised any questions, and the PSE&G meter readers still have to
come inside to read the meter, and have also never asked a question.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

The Daring Dufas wrote in
:

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a
safe distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic
"bad leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.


Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a
lot better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

TDD

Thank you! I do appreciate that compliment. I must admit that I have
experience speaking English since 1967 when I was assigned (I requested
it) to an American to do research on blood platelets for my Biochemistry
masters degree. Since coming to the US in 1969, I have helped write and
have written many grant applications, most of which were (eventually)
funded. For that to have happened my English would have to have been
acceptable to the reviewers, not just the science behind the words.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On Mar 12, 8:31*am, George wrote:
On 3/11/2012 5:34 PM, Han wrote:





diy *wrote :

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.

My first call would be to the gas company. They tend to take leaks
seriously.

Maybe 5 years ago I would get an occasional wiff of mercaptan (the
odorant in gas) when outside the house. I always assumed it came from
the boiler when it fires.

One day the air was really still and I followed it over to the area by
the meter. *I called the gas company and told them what I smelled and
that it was outside. Within a few minutes a gas company truck pulled up
followed by another one. The underground lateral was a steel pipe and it
developed a tiny leak where it came out of the ground. The guy shut off
the gas at the curb.

....

I asked about their quick response and they said
the dispatcher broadcasts when a gas leak is reported and they are
supposed to stop what they are going and go there.

....

What if they are working on or going to another gas leak? Are they
supposed to stop working on that one and go to the latest one that was
called in? ;-)

....


They called it in and within a few hours a construction crew arrived and
dug up the street side. They cut off the old pipe at each end and ran
plastic inside it.- Hide quoted text -

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On Mar 12, 10:47*am, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:31*am, George wrote:





On 3/11/2012 5:34 PM, Han wrote:

diy *wrote :

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.

My first call would be to the gas company. They tend to take leaks
seriously.

Maybe 5 years ago I would get an occasional wiff of mercaptan (the
odorant in gas) when outside the house. I always assumed it came from
the boiler when it fires.

One day the air was really still and I followed it over to the area by
the meter. *I called the gas company and told them what I smelled and
that it was outside. Within a few minutes a gas company truck pulled up
followed by another one. The underground lateral was a steel pipe and it
developed a tiny leak where it came out of the ground. The guy shut off
the gas at the curb.

...

I asked about their quick response and they said
the dispatcher broadcasts when a gas leak is reported and they are
supposed to stop what they are going and go there.

...

What if they are working on or going to another gas leak? Are they
supposed to stop working on that one and go to the latest one that was
called in? *;-)

...





They called it in and within a few hours a construction crew arrived and
dug up the street side. They cut off the old pipe at each end and ran
plastic inside it.- Hide quoted text -

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- Show quoted text -- Hide quoted text -

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It's that liberal vs conservative thing. We conservatives
smell gas and being real men, we grab a wrench and go shut it off
ourselves. The liberals they look to call the govt to come take care
of it for them.

" wrote in news:6dd830bb-
:

It's that liberal vs conservative thing. We conservatives
smell gas and being real men, we grab a wrench and go shut it off
ourselves. The liberals they look to call the govt to come take care
of it for them.

More "proof" that I'm not a liberal according to your definitions grin.
If I smell a little gas I'll go and investigate. Sometimes with a wrench,
but usually first just to turn off the valve(s). If I were to hear a woosh
and smell lots of gas (or the oher way around) I'll run and scream, then
call 911. But maybe I'm too subtle and subjective grin again.

--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

On 3/12/2012 9:45 AM, Han wrote:
The Daring wrote in
:

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a
safe distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic
"bad leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.


Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a
lot better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

TDD

Thank you! I do appreciate that compliment. I must admit that I have
experience speaking English since 1967 when I was assigned (I requested
it) to an American to do research on blood platelets for my Biochemistry
masters degree. Since coming to the US in 1969, I have helped write and
have written many grant applications, most of which were (eventually)
funded. For that to have happened my English would have to have been
acceptable to the reviewers, not just the science behind the words.


I helped my mother get her masters in psychology by doing her computer
statistics homework for her back in the late 60's. She would hand me a
big stack of punch cards and I would take them to the computer center
where the college had a shiny new IBM 360/50 RAX system. Oh yea, the
computers I played with in my youth took up whole floors of buildings.
Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it when it comes to data
processing and retrieval. I wonder how many have spent the day in a
library reading a stack of books just for fun? ^_^

TDD

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:05:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic "bad
leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.


Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a lot
better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

Yeah, I'll do a +1 on that, too. I was going for the humor, Han--
Your usage was perfect, it is just one of those English 'funny'
things.

Jim

On 3/12/2012 7:49 AM, wrote:
On Mar 12, 7:49 am, wrote:
wrote in ...
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

Here how to look at it:
if there was a Gas leaks,
and the Gas go into the Vent,
when the dryer is off..

Look like it would be a good way to end of life of,
your dryer, wife,
or home all at one time,
would you say:::::::

So move it,
you ask "hoe"

Why should he move the dryer vent, which is
3 ft away from the gas meter when the
house has plenty of gas piping and eqpt INSIDE
the house? There are plenty of homes where the
gas meter is actually INSIDE the house. Also, if you look around you
will find lots of houses where the gas meter is
a similar distance from a window that can be opened.
My own house is one of them.

The risk from what he has from a safety standpoint is
minimal.
The real issue to me would be how accessible the
meter is, ie can he get to it to shut it off if necessary
and can the gas company get to it for reading,
service, etc. If it's been that way for awhile and the
gas company isn't bitching, I probably would not start
asking questions.


I wonder if it's an affliction of those Liberal sissies who live in
union controlled states where you have to belong to a union before you
can pick up a tool and touch anything electrical, plumbing or utility
service without that card and diploma from a union trade school? No
H.I.S.I. fits from the P.L.L.C.F. please, I'm chain yanking. ^_^

TDD

On Mar 12, 12:16*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/12/2012 9:45 AM, Han wrote:





The Daring *wrote in
:

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim * wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, * wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, * wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a
safe distance.

Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic
"bad leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.

Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a
lot better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

TDD

Thank you! *I do appreciate that compliment. *I must admit that I have
experience speaking English since 1967 when I was assigned (I requested
it) to an American to do research on blood platelets for my Biochemistry
masters degree. *Since coming to the US in 1969, I have helped write and
have written many grant applications, most of which were (eventually)
funded. *For that to have happened my English would have to have been
acceptable to the reviewers, not just the science behind the words.

I helped my mother get her masters in psychology by doing her computer
statistics homework for her back in the late 60's. She would hand me a
big stack of punch cards and I would take them to the computer center
where the college had a shiny new IBM 360/50 RAX system. Oh yea, the
computers I played with in my youth took up whole floors of buildings.
Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it when it comes to data
processing and retrieval. I wonder how many have spent the day in a
library reading a stack of books just for fun? ^_^

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Punch cards? You had punch cards?

How about hundreds of feet of paper tape like seen here?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...letype1964.jpg

I like to remind the kids that I was IM'ing long before they were even
born. We used Telex machines to communicate between
stations...essentially on-line typewriters. There were even standard
abbreviations to make the messaging faster.

Jim Elbrecht wrote in
:

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 09:05:17 -0500, The Daring Dufas
wrote:

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a
safe distance.


Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic
"bad leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.


Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a
lot better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

Yeah, I'll do a +1 on that, too. I was going for the humor, Han--
Your usage was perfect, it is just one of those English 'funny'
things.

Jim

I did see that, Jim, but I thought I could use some self-promotion
grin. Also, usenet is international, as you know.
--
Best regards
Han
email address is invalid

The Daring Dufas wrote in news:jjl8i3$6bf$1
@dont-email.me:

I wonder if it's an affliction of those Liberal sissies who live in
union controlled states where you have to belong to a union before you
can pick up a tool and touch anything electrical, plumbing or utility
service without that card and diploma from a union trade school? No
H.I.S.I. fits from the P.L.L.C.F. please, I'm chain yanking. ^_^

No hissifit, just a reaction. It depends. I've done a little plumbing-
like stuff, some electrical, and carpentry/furniture stuff. All self-
taught, since my profession was biochemistry (but that did involve some
plumbing with hydrogen, air and nitrogen lines for our gaschromatographs,
so I do know about leak testing). Coming from a country with 220V 50Hz
electrical lines, and the life experience that it's the amps, not the
voltage that hurts most, electrical is generally simple if you're
careful. Nowadays, with the brother of my son-in-law as a somewhat
experienced electrician's helper, it is even easier. But, if it is
likely to be more complicated than I know for sure I can do, I let my
fingers do the walking. I respect diplomas and licenses, but common
sense prevails. In a few days I'm getting a home energy audit, and I'll
see what I can tackle myself and where I will hire a professional.

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Best regards
Han
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On Sunday, March 11, 2012 12:56:34 PM UTC-4, Duesenberg wrote:
So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

Does your dryer shoot flames out the vent on a regular basis?

Does your gas meter leak on a regular basis?

Actually, if there is a leak, it would most likely be the pressure regulator
that would leak through it's vent. The meter is unlikely to leak unless you
punched or drilled a hole into it.

On 3/12/2012 12:01 PM, wrote:
On Mar 12, 10:47 am, wrote:
On Mar 12, 8:31 am, wrote:





On 3/11/2012 5:34 PM, Han wrote:

diy wrote :

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.

My first call would be to the gas company. They tend to take leaks
seriously.

Maybe 5 years ago I would get an occasional wiff of mercaptan (the
odorant in gas) when outside the house. I always assumed it came from
the boiler when it fires.

One day the air was really still and I followed it over to the area by
the meter. I called the gas company and told them what I smelled and
that it was outside. Within a few minutes a gas company truck pulled up
followed by another one. The underground lateral was a steel pipe and it
developed a tiny leak where it came out of the ground. The guy shut off
the gas at the curb.

...

I asked about their quick response and they said
the dispatcher broadcasts when a gas leak is reported and they are
supposed to stop what they are going and go there.

...

What if they are working on or going to another gas leak? Are they
supposed to stop working on that one and go to the latest one that was
called in? ;-)

...





They called it in and within a few hours a construction crew arrived and
dug up the street side. They cut off the old pipe at each end and ran
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It's that liberal vs conservative thing. We conservatives
smell gas and being real men, we grab a wrench and go shut it off
ourselves. The liberals they look to call the govt to come take care
of it for them.



So what wrench would you have used to remove the security cap they have
on the stop out at the curb and then once you did what wrench would you
have used to shut off the gas valve?

Liberals will follow that up, by demanding a new law that prohibits leaks.
Or raises taxes to pay for a community leak fixing program, that's no charge
to callers. Bilingual avertisements, with Spanish speaking operators
standing by.

http://translation.babylon.com/english/to-spanish/
Los Liberales seguimiento a esta cuestión, exigiendo una nueva ley que
prohíbe las filtraciones. O aumenta los impuestos a pagar por la comunidad
fuga fijación del programa, que sin cargo alguno para las personas que
llaman. Cuando se trate bilingüe español-inglés, con los operadores
impasibles.


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It's that liberal vs conservative thing. We conservatives
smell gas and being real men, we grab a wrench and go shut it off
ourselves. The liberals they look to call the govt to come take care
of it for them.

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 10:08:55 -0700 (PDT), DerbyDad03
wrote:

On Mar 12, 12:16*pm, The Daring Dufas
wrote:
On 3/12/2012 9:45 AM, Han wrote:





The Daring *wrote in
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On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim * wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, * wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, * wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a
safe distance.

Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic
"bad leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.

Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a
lot better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

TDD

Thank you! *I do appreciate that compliment. *I must admit that I have
experience speaking English since 1967 when I was assigned (I requested
it) to an American to do research on blood platelets for my Biochemistry
masters degree. *Since coming to the US in 1969, I have helped write and
have written many grant applications, most of which were (eventually)
funded. *For that to have happened my English would have to have been
acceptable to the reviewers, not just the science behind the words.

I helped my mother get her masters in psychology by doing her computer
statistics homework for her back in the late 60's. She would hand me a
big stack of punch cards and I would take them to the computer center
where the college had a shiny new IBM 360/50 RAX system. Oh yea, the
computers I played with in my youth took up whole floors of buildings.
Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it when it comes to data
processing and retrieval. I wonder how many have spent the day in a
library reading a stack of books just for fun? ^_^

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Punch cards? You had punch cards?

How about hundreds of feet of paper tape like seen here?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...letype1964.jpg

Have you ever carted a few boxes of cards around? Ever dropped a box? Paper
tape wasn't much of a step down.

I like to remind the kids that I was IM'ing long before they were even
born. We used Telex machines to communicate between
stations...essentially on-line typewriters. There were even standard
abbreviations to make the messaging faster.

Book? Dude, what's a book?

Han's English is far better than my Dutch, German, or what he also speaks.

Christopher A. Young
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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
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I helped my mother get her masters in psychology by doing her computer
statistics homework for her back in the late 60's. She would hand me a
big stack of punch cards and I would take them to the computer center
where the college had a shiny new IBM 360/50 RAX system. Oh yea, the
computers I played with in my youth took up whole floors of buildings.
Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it when it comes to data
processing and retrieval. I wonder how many have spent the day in a
library reading a stack of books just for fun? ^_^

TDD

From what I know of the UK, they are already arrived at this stage.

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"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
...

I wonder if it's an affliction of those Liberal sissies who live in
union controlled states where you have to belong to a union before you
can pick up a tool and touch anything electrical, plumbing or utility
service without that card and diploma from a union trade school? No
H.I.S.I. fits from the P.L.L.C.F. please, I'm chain yanking. ^_^

TDD

He probably already owns four of them, left over from his last job.

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"George" wrote in message
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On 3/12/2012 12:01 PM, wrote:
It's that liberal vs conservative thing. We conservatives
smell gas and being real men, we grab a wrench and go shut it off
ourselves. The liberals they look to call the govt to come take care
of it for them.



So what wrench would you have used to remove the security cap they have
on the stop out at the curb and then once you did what wrench would you
have used to shut off the gas valve?

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 06:47:16 -0500, "HeyBub" wrote:

Han wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.

Huh?

In my town, the fire department's standard is to have the first piece of
equipment* on scene within four minutes after the call. The police average
nine minutes for an emergency call. Both of these standards are pretty good
compared to the national average for a large city.

That said, how long will it take for the gas company to respond to a
reported gas leak? Oh, I'm sure they'll get right on it, but it ain't gonna
be within ten minutes! Whatever time it takes, the house will begin to fill
with gas...

The one time I had a gas leak (the pipe to the stove broke in half, going
through the floor), the gas company was there within five minutes. When a
leak report goes out, everyone in that area of the city drops what they're
doing and responds. They don't even finish their donut. ;-)

----
* Then there's the rest of the equipment. A couple of years ago, my power
went out. After waiting a few minutes, I stepped outside just to look
around.

In front of my house were FORTY-TWO pieces of fire department equipment! (I
counted them.) There were pumper trucks, ambulances, a cascade unit, a
ladder truck that could reach the stars, even a bus resembling those that
take seniors to the nearby Indian casino for a day of gambling labeled "City
of Houston Mobile Command Center." Everything but a van labeled "Mole
Abatement Unit."

Slow week?

Lord only knows how many pumper trucks were scattered around the
neighborhood hooked up to fire plugs awaiting the call for more water.

All this because of a kitchen fire in an apartment across the street. Must
have been a slow fire day.

Han wrote:
" wrote in news:81589ce1-
:

Why should he move the dryer vent, which is
3 ft away from the gas meter when the
house has plenty of gas piping and eqpt INSIDE
the house? There are plenty of homes where the
gas meter is actually INSIDE the house. Also, if you look around you
will find lots of houses where the gas meter is
a similar distance from a window that can be opened.
My own house is one of them.

I agree. My gas meter is inside, above the gas dryer. Licensed plumbers
have never raised any questions, and the PSE&G meter readers still have to
come inside to read the meter, and have also never asked a question.


Our 1960 house had meter in garage. I had gas line installed in new, old
house. They want to see the meter in line with the street valve.

Greg

On 3/12/2012 12:08 PM, DerbyDad03 wrote:
On Mar 12, 12:16 pm, The Daring
wrote:
On 3/12/2012 9:45 AM, Han wrote:





The Daring wrote in
:

On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:
Jim wrote in
:

On Sun, 11 Mar 2012 19:09:34 -0700, wrote:

On 11 Mar 2012 21:34:04 GMT, wrote:

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter
quickly to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a
safe distance.

Folks, we have a winner.

+1 [but have to ask. . . are there *good* gas leaks?]

Jim

Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic
"bad leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.

Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a
lot better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

TDD

Thank you! I do appreciate that compliment. I must admit that I have
experience speaking English since 1967 when I was assigned (I requested
it) to an American to do research on blood platelets for my Biochemistry
masters degree. Since coming to the US in 1969, I have helped write and
have written many grant applications, most of which were (eventually)
funded. For that to have happened my English would have to have been
acceptable to the reviewers, not just the science behind the words.

I helped my mother get her masters in psychology by doing her computer
statistics homework for her back in the late 60's. She would hand me a
big stack of punch cards and I would take them to the computer center
where the college had a shiny new IBM 360/50 RAX system. Oh yea, the
computers I played with in my youth took up whole floors of buildings.
Kids these days have no idea how easy they have it when it comes to data
processing and retrieval. I wonder how many have spent the day in a
library reading a stack of books just for fun? ^_^

TDD- Hide quoted text -

- Show quoted text -

Punch cards? You had punch cards?

How about hundreds of feet of paper tape like seen here?

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedi...letype1964.jpg

I like to remind the kids that I was IM'ing long before they were even
born. We used Telex machines to communicate between
stations...essentially on-line typewriters. There were even standard
abbreviations to make the messaging faster.


The computer the university was replacing was a UNIVAC. It was a
classic science fiction computer with lots of glass and lots blinking
lights. There might have been paper tape used with that one and I
think there was a thing called a drum memory the size of a 50gal drum
that was like a hard drive. It had a capacity of 16 to 32kb as I recall.
I don't know if it was a FASTRAND drum unit which are huge
because I never got to see a lot of the old UNIVAC. Of course there
were a number of tape drives but it was a long time ago. ^_^

TDD

On Mon, 12 Mar 2012 19:54:30 -0400, "Stormin Mormon"
wrote:

Liberals will follow that up, by demanding a new law that prohibits leaks.
Or raises taxes to pay for a community leak fixing program, that's no charge
to callers. Bilingual avertisements, with Spanish speaking operators
standing by.

After all, gas leaks aren't fair, and are most likely *RACIST*.

"Stormin Mormon" wrote in
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Book? Dude, what's a book?

Han's English is far better than my Dutch, German, or what he also
speaks.

Sorry to disappoint you, but my Dutch is (according to my Dutch family and
friends) very oldfashioned. My German and French should be primitive, but
don't even approach that. My Italian is point and nod.

--
Best regards
Han
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On 3/11/2012 5:34 PM, Han wrote:
diy wrote in :

On 3/11/2012 12:56 PM, Duesenberg wrote:
I have both a gas meter and my dryer vent abut 3 feet from each other,
whihc seems to be acceptable minimum code however:

they are both under the deck.

The meter's regulator is just on the outside of the deck wall but the
meter itself is on the inside. My deck is elevated about 4 feet up but
it is walled with pressure treated slats, not tightly, but walled.

So instead of calling the gas company anyone have thots to if this is
safe or not?

If you had a gas leak in your house, could you get to the meter quickly
to shut it off?

If I had a bad gas leak, I'd leave the house and call 911 from a safe
distance.


Our gas company just comes out, shuts off your service and red tags it.
They do not make repairs inside your house. The homeowner is required to
get a licensed plumber to repair the leak. Then your gas piping system
has to pass an 8 hour air leak test by the city. Then, and only then,
will the slow-as-molasses municipal inspector issues a permit to turn
the gas back on. A simple leak could easily take 24-72 hours to get
resolved.

So I have a ball shut-off valve on my side of the gas meter. If I smell
gas, I'll shut the valve off while I locate and repair the leak. Getting
the authorities involved would be an absolute last resort.

"The Daring Dufas" wrote in message
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On 3/12/2012 9:01 AM, Han wrote:

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Ok, English is my second language - I was going for the idiomatic "bad
leak" meaning much more than just a little bit of leaking.


Han my friend, if you didn't grow up speaking English, you sure do a lot
better with it than many of those who have. ^_^

Finally, we agree on something! I wouldn't have guessed Han was not a
native English speaker. I am sure Han speaks better English than most
Americans speak Dutch and many Americans speak English. I only remember a
few Dutch words now, although my great-grandmother was Dutch. Alstublieft,
goedemorgen and een prettig dag! My older sister remembers a lot more both
of Dutch and Italian than I do. I was too young when my Dutch GG and my
Italian grandmother were alive to pick up as much as she did.

--
Bobby G.

Juan Deere wrote in
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So I have a ball shut-off valve on my side of the gas meter. If I smell
gas, I'll shut the valve off while I locate and repair the leak. Getting
the authorities involved would be an absolute last resort.

Now that's a Man!!

--
Best regards
Han
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