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OT Wall street occupation.
Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels.
Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. http://occupywallst.org/ http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...544595588.html http://rt.com/news/wall-street-city-hall-977/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf...street-protest http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/...eet-protester/ |
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On Oct 7, 2:50*am, harry wrote:
Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Once again, the village idiot's grasp of the facts is exposed. It's been covered as one of the top stories for days here on CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, CNN..... Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. http://occupywallst.org/ http://english.aljazeera.net/indepth...01110322544595... http://rt.com/news/wall-street-city-hall-977/ http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisf.../sep/25/occupy... http://thinkprogress.org/media/2011/...ws-interview-w... |
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harry wrote:
Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. Heh! The protest is well-covered here. I saw a "man on the street" interview with one of the protesters. The sign-carrying marcher was a 23-year old recent college graduate whose main complaint was he couldn't find a job. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. |
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OT Wall street occupation.
"HeyBub" wrote Heh! The protest is well-covered here. I saw a "man on the street" interview with one of the protesters. The sign-carrying marcher was a 23-year old recent college graduate whose main complaint was he couldn't find a job. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. It is not relevant. Anyone with a degree in Greek literature from 4200BC to 4100BC should be able to find the job of his dreams. Those oppressive capitalists are just not giving him a chance. |
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"Ed Pawlowski" wrote in
: "HeyBub" wrote Heh! The protest is well-covered here. I saw a "man on the street" interview with one of the protesters. The sign-carrying marcher was a 23-year old recent college graduate whose main complaint was he couldn't find a job. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. It is not relevant. Anyone with a degree in Greek literature from 4200BC to 4100BC should be able to find the job of his dreams. Those oppressive capitalists are just not giving him a chance. LOL. Indeed. His verbal skills should have landed him a lobbyists' job long ago ... -- Best regards Han email address is invalid |
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On Oct 7, 8:27*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. Heh! The protest is well-covered here. I saw a "man on the street" interview with one of the protesters. The sign-carrying marcher was a 23-year old recent college graduate whose main complaint was he couldn't find a job. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. |
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On Oct 7, 2:50*am, harry wrote:
Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, harry. But in your case and with your prospects I don't see that you have much of a choice. I'm going for a bike ride today, and I'll swing by to check out the Occupy Wall Street crowd. I'll report back later on the situation and what a braying ass you are...damn. I spoiled the surprise! ~ R |
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On Oct 7, 1:19*pm, "
wrote: On Oct 7, 2:50*am, harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Once again, the village idiot's grasp of the facts is exposed. *It's been covered as one of the top stories for days here on *CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, CNN..... No links then I see? |
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I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. -- "If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!" |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 12:43:13 -0400, "__ Bøb __"
wrote: I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. ....but, but, according to Nancy, it was spontaneous and independent. |
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On 10/7/2011 12:43 PM, "__ Bøb __" wrote:
I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. Unions, anarchists, communists, socialists, Obama administration - birds of a feather, flock together. |
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On Fri, 07 Oct 2011 13:48:14 -0400, Frank
wrote: On 10/7/2011 12:43 PM, "__ Bøb __" wrote: I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. Unions, anarchists, communists, socialists, Obama administration - birds of a feather, flock together. The difference is that the Obama administration has a job. ...at least for the time being. |
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On Oct 7, 9:43*am, "__ Bøb __" wrote:
I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. -- "If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!" Conspiracy theory du jour. HB |
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On Oct 7, 5:27*am, "HeyBub" wrote:
harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. Heh! The protest is well-covered here. I saw a "man on the street" interview with one of the protesters. The sign-carrying marcher was a 23-year old recent college graduate whose main complaint was he couldn't find a job. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. Hmmmmm... maybe that's why he can't find a job.... has a college degree but cannot differentiate "relevant" from "irrelevant" cheers Bob |
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On Oct 7, 8:59*am, harry wrote:
On Oct 7, 1:19*pm, " wrote: On Oct 7, 2:50*am, harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Once again, the village idiot's grasp of the facts is exposed. *It's been covered as one of the top stories for days here on *CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, CNN..... No links then I see? Google broken in your town? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg9v3...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8aRy...eature=related http://www.mediabistro.com/tvspy/cat...fox-affiliates http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sVCsYSvaoSE http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D8EPn...eature=related http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BeQqoL3z2-E http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jrRj83BunNE |
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On 10/7/2011 2:00 PM, Higgs Boson wrote:
On Oct 7, 9:43 am, "__ Bøb wrote: I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. -- "If you voted for Obama in 2008 to prove you're not a racist you'll have to vote for someone else in 2012 to prove you're not stupid!" Conspiracy theory du jour. HB Think this describes you and the protesters: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Useful_idiot |
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On Thu, 6 Oct 2011 23:50:20 -0700 (PDT), harry
wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Sure it is. There is also: Occupy Sesame Street Occupy Home Depot Next will be Occupy Snooki Keep looking... |
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On Fri, 7 Oct 2011 11:00:47 -0700 (PDT), Higgs Boson
wrote: Conspiracy theory du jour. What are your opinions on 'Dwarf-Tossing'?! "A Florida lawmaker wants "Big Brother" to stop interfering with how little people make their living -- even if their living entails being tossed around in a bar." Read mo http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2011/10/07/florida-lawmaker-seeks-to-end-ban-on-dwarf-tossing/?test=latestnews#ixzz1a8sfQQjC |
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On Oct 7, 6:48*pm, Frank wrote:
On 10/7/2011 12:43 PM, "__ Bøb __" wrote: I think its great, and great that the unions are joining in. Just strengthens the working man's crowd that will vote Obama and socialism out. The unions aren't "joining in" ... they started it all. Unions, anarchists, communists, socialists, Obama administration - birds of a feather, flock together. They're just normal people that's ****ed off. They suffer for what the bankers did. I haven't heard of any poor bankers have you? The USA is run so the rich can rob the poor. And rob and rob and rob. This may be the start of your first proper revolution. |
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On Oct 7, 7:18*pm, DD_BobK wrote:
On Oct 7, 5:27*am, "HeyBub" wrote: harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. Heh! The protest is well-covered here. I saw a "man on the street" interview with one of the protesters. The sign-carrying marcher was a 23-year old recent college graduate whose main complaint was he couldn't find a job.. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. "What was your college major?" asked the interviewer. "I don't see how that's relevant," replied the protester. Hmmmmm... maybe that's why he can't find a job.... has a college degree but cannot differentiate *"relevant" from "irrelevant" cheers Bob- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Like the difference between "flammable " and inflammable"? |
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On Oct 7, 7:38*pm, DD_BobK wrote:
On Oct 7, 8:59*am, harry wrote: On Oct 7, 1:19*pm, " wrote: On Oct 7, 2:50*am, harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Once again, the village idiot's grasp of the facts is exposed. *It's been covered as one of the top stories for days here on *CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, CNN..... No links then I see? Google broken in your town? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wg9v3...?v=jrRj83BunNE This is more interesting. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNuDPsE-oQI |
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OT Wall street occupation. Their Demands (13 of them)
wrote in message ... On Oct 7, 2:50 am, harry wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Once again, the village idiot's grasp of the facts is exposed. It's been covered as one of the top stories for days here on CBS, NBC, ABC, Fox, CNN..... Yet hundreds are being arrested and the polic eare beating up woman and spraying them with gas. All reported on foriegn news channels. Clearly th American media are inthe pockest of the rich. JP Morgan have given the NYPD $4.6M to help with suppression of dissent. Here are thirteen demands from those occupying Wall Street presented to Obama. Demand one: Restoration of the living wage. This demand can only be met by ending "Freetrade" by re-imposing trade tariffs on all imported goods entering the American market to level the playing field for domestic family farming and domestic manufacturing as most nations that are dumping cheap products onto the American market have radical wage and environmental regulation advantages. Another policy that must be instituted is raise the minimum wage to twenty dollars an hr. Demand two: Institute a universal single payer healthcare system. To do this all private insurers must be banned from the healthcare market as their only effect on the health of patients is to take money away from doctors, nurses and hospitals preventing them from doing their jobs and hand that money to wall st. investors. Demand three: Guaranteed living wage income regardless of employment. Demand four: Free college education. Demand five: Begin a fast track process to bring the fossil fuel economy to an end while at the same bringing the alternative energy economy up to energy demand. Demand six: One trillion dollars in infrastructure (Water, Sewer, Rail, Roads and Bridges and Electrical Grid) spending now. Demand seven: One trillion dollars in ecological restoration planting forests, reestablishing wetlands and the natural flow of river systems and decommissioning of all of America's nuclear power plants. Demand eight: Racial and gender equal rights amendment. Demand nine: Open borders migration. anyone can travel anywhere to work and live. Demand ten: Bring American elections up to international standards of a paper ballot precinct counted and recounted in front of an independent and party observers system. Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. Demand twelve: Outlaw all credit reporting agencies. Demand thirteen: Allow all workers to sign a ballot at any time during a union organizing campaign or at any time that represents their yeah or nay to having a union represent them in collective bargaining or to form a union. These demands will create so many jobs it will be completely impossible to fill them without an open borders policy. http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/...esident-obama/ |
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OT Wall street occupation. Their Demands (13 of them)
On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote:
*Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt *forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity *loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must *be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank *Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all *Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must *also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, *I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. Go figure. |
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OT Wall street occupation. Their Demands (13 of them)
On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote:
*Here are thirteen demands from those occupying Wall Street presented to *Obama. {snipped a massive amount of bull****} *http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/...treet-has-issu.... So, let me see if I understand you - for information on a "liberal" fringe group, you turn to a "conservative" fringe group for information. That about sum it up? That makes as much sense as asking Iran for information on the US. Or asking hee haw harry for information on the US. It just _might_ have a little spin on it, ya know? Sheesh. The media is pointing out that there AREN'T any clear cut demands being made. It confuses people, as illustrated by your knee-jerk post. This is what Occupy Wall St has to say on the matter: http://occupywallst.org/forum/propos...all-st-moveme/ "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." Well, **** - that's kind of odd. ANONYMOUS posts something on an open forum, so it MUST be true. There couldn't possibly be anyone that would, gasp!, lie and post some bull**** to get knee-jerks riled up, could there? Fair and balanced means you get information from many sides and figure out who is closest to the 'truth' of the matter. No one owns truth. R |
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OT Wall street occupation. Their Demands (13 of them)
On Oct 8, 7:22*am, "
wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote: *Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt *forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity *loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must *be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank *Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all *Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must *also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, *I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. *The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. *Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. *That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. *That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. *The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. * Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. *He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. *The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. * Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. *Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R |
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On Oct 8, 3:17*am, harry wrote:
They're just normal people that's ****ed off. Hee Haw, you couldn't spell normal with a five letter head start. And please brush up on having verb tenses agree when referring to a single subject. Thanks. R |
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harry wrote:
They're just normal people that's ****ed off. They suffer for what the bankers did. I haven't heard of any poor bankers have you? The USA is run so the rich can rob the poor. And rob and rob and rob. This may be the start of your first proper revolution. It works because there are so many of them. Take a penny from each poor person and you have a LOT of money*. Take a penny from each millionaire and you won't have nearly as much. As one of our presidential candidates said a couple of days ago (from his lips to God's ear): "If you're not rich, it's your own damn fault." ---- * It's pretty easy. Back during the depression an enterprising sould took out a classified ad in The National Grange. The add read: "Keep your cow from drooling. Full details, ten cents." Lots and lots of farmers sent him a dime. Each farmer got back a penny-postcard with the instructions: "Teach your cow to spit." |
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OT Wall street occupation. Their Demands (13 of them)
On Oct 8, 9:49*am, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 8, 7:22*am, " wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote: *Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.. Debt *forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity *loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must *be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank *Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all *Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must *also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, *I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. *The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. *Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. *That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. *That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. *The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. * Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. *He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. *The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. * Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. *Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? *One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. *Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. *It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Excuse me, but I did not judge them to be a rag tag bunch of misfits just on this list of demands. I made that determination after listening to many interviews with actual demonstraters. What I heard was garbage that is similar to the list of demands. Among the statements: The jews have all the money and control the economy. All the billionaires in the USA are Jews. Companies are genetically modifying crops to change our DNA. 911 was an inside job. The World Bank is stealing our money. I won't take a $7 an hour job! In other words, these folks are a lot like the rioters that show up at G7 meetings just mad as hell about anything and everything with no coherent message,. |
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OT Wall street occupation. Their Demands (13 of them)
On Oct 8, 2:49*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 8, 7:22*am, " wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote: *Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all.. Debt *forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity *loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must *be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank *Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all *Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must *also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, *I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. *The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. *Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. *That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. *That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. *The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. * Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. *He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. *The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. * Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. *Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? *One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. *Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. *It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's how revolutions start.. It's not an administrators little plan. Only takes one little incident for the violence to start. Especially in America with all these guns. You are where Russia was in 1916. Leaders will emerge. They are not misfits, they have a genuine grevance. They have not just been failed by their goverment they have been robbed of their money and their future. Hah. So much for the "American Dream". American Delusion is nearer the mark. BTW, the rest of the world have always known you were dupes of your system. The rich will never giveup their wealth voluntarilly, it will have to be taken from them by force. In America lots of force. |
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On Oct 8, 10:26*am, "
wrote: On Oct 8, 9:49*am, RicodJour wrote: On Oct 8, 7:22*am, " wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote: *Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt *forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity *loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must *be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank *Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all *Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must *also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, *I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. *The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. *Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. *That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. *That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. *The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. * Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. *He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. *The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. * Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. *Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? *One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. *Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. *It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Excuse me, but I did not judge them to be a rag tag bunch of misfits just on this list of demands. I made that determination after listening to many interviews with actual demonstraters. *What I heard was garbage that is similar to the list of demands. * Among the statements: The jews have all the money and control the economy. All the billionaires in the USA are Jews. Companies are genetically modifying crops to change our DNA. 911 was an inside job. The World Bank is stealing our money. I won't take a $7 an hour job! In other words, these folks are a lot like the rioters that show up at G7 meetings just mad as hell about anything and everything with no coherent message. Some of them, sure, no arguments. But let's face it - wacko statements make more interesting television, and without clear cut leaders, orgnization and demands, anyone that is interviewed is going to be giving their personal take on things. Why would labor and teacher's unions get behind it if it's all wackadoodles? The Tea Party grew out some mad as hell people, and then organization stepped in, in the guise of the Koch brothers, amongst others, and became a game changer. And we all know what fine upstanding citizens the Koch brothers are. http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...ran-sales.html I have no problem with mad as hell people shaking the gridlock loose. The Tea Party is represented as a populist movement, and it did start out that way, then the deep pockets got involved as it fit in nicely with their aims. The Occupy Wall Street thing is also starting out as a populist movement. No figureheads, no mouthpieces, not much of any concerted effort - but it does seem to be drawing a lot of attention. With organized labor and others getting behind it it could become another game changer, or it could fizzle out. We shall see. The main thing I appreciate about it is that it seems to be waking up the large majority of the apathetic young non-voters. This can be nothing but a good thing. You didn't address the main point of my reply to your post. How could you not instantly know that that list was a bunch of bull****, posted by a lone wackadoodle, or a post calculated to spread disinformation? Go back and read it again. The thing is absurd form the get go, with a few plausible items thrown in for believability (free education for all). So why did you buy into it? R |
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On 10/8/2011 11:31 AM, harry wrote:
On Oct 8, 2:49 pm, wrote: On Oct 8, 7:22 am, wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54 am, "Bob-tx"No Spam no contact wrote: Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's how revolutions start.. It's not an administrators little plan. Only takes one little incident for the violence to start. Especially in America with all these guns. You are where Russia was in 1916. Leaders will emerge. LOL. You are clueless. |
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On Oct 8, 12:32*pm, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 8, 10:26*am, " wrote: On Oct 8, 9:49*am, RicodJour wrote: On Oct 8, 7:22*am, " wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54*am, "Bob-tx" No Spam no contact wrote: *Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt *forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity *loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must *be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank *Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all *Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must *also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, *I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. *The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. *Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. *That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. *That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. *The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. * Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. *He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. *The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. * Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. *Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? *One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. *Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. *It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - Excuse me, but I did not judge them to be a rag tag bunch of misfits just on this list of demands. I made that determination after listening to many interviews with actual demonstraters. *What I heard was garbage that is similar to the list of demands. * Among the statements: The jews have all the money and control the economy. All the billionaires in the USA are Jews. Companies are genetically modifying crops to change our DNA. 911 was an inside job. The World Bank is stealing our money. I won't take a $7 an hour job! In other words, these folks are a lot like the rioters that show up at G7 meetings just mad as hell about anything and everything with no coherent message. Some of them, sure, no arguments. *But let's face it - wacko statements make more interesting television, and without clear cut leaders, orgnization and demands, anyone that is interviewed is going to be giving their personal take on things. Why would labor and teacher's unions get behind it if it's all wackadoodles? Because the leaders of some unions are wackadoodles too. As a leader of an organization like a union, would you affiliate yourself with a protest that has no clear agenda or message? The Tea Party grew out some mad as hell people, and then organization stepped in, in the guise of the Koch brothers, amongst others, and became a game changer. *And we all know what fine upstanding citizens the Koch brothers are.http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2011-1...flout-law-gett... I have no problem with mad as hell people shaking the gridlock loose. They can do what they want, but until somebody has a message of what they are mad as hell about, what exactly they want, I'm sure not gonna be supportive. The Tea Party is represented as a populist movement, and it did start out that way, then the deep pockets got involved as it fit in nicely with their aims. Even from the start, the Tea Party had a basic message which was they are against big govt and big govt spending. The Occupy Wall Street thing is also starting out as a populist movement. *No figureheads, no mouthpieces, not much of any concerted effort - but it does seem to be drawing a lot of attention. *With organized labor and others getting behind it it could become another game changer, or it could fizzle out. *We shall see. Yes, I agree. Another view is that it's the first ste[ toward what we're seeing in Greece. Looks very similar to me as in Greece you have a bunch of people just mad about everything, but unwilling to back any of the necessary steps to save the country. They're just in the streets bitching. Some because they can't find a job. Some because they don't like the salary cuts the govt has made. Some because they don't like the domestic program cuts the govt is making, etc. The main thing I appreciate about it is that it seems to be waking up the large majority of the apathetic young non-voters. *This can be nothing but a good thing. Not if those new voters are just as pig ignorant as all the protesters I've seen interviewed. You didn't address the main point of my reply to your post. *How could you not instantly know that that list was a bunch of bull****, posted by a lone wackadoodle, or a post calculated to spread disinformation? Because it looked just like the crazy statements I've seen the protesters give when interviewed. Go back and read it again. *The thing is absurd form the get go, with a few plausible items thrown in for believability (free education for all). *So why did you buy into it? I didn't buy into it as some official position because I know this is a rag-tag group with no consistent message. I did think it could be at least one or more individuals that are demonstrating or supporting them. |
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On 10/8/2011 9:43 AM, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 8, 3:54 am, "Bob-tx"No Spam no contact wrote: Here are thirteen demands from those occupying Wall Street presented to Obama. {snipped a massive amount of bull****} http://www.teapartytribune.com/2011/...treet-has-issu... So, let me see if I understand you - for information on a "liberal" fringe group, you turn to a "conservative" fringe group for information. That about sum it up? That makes as much sense as asking Iran for information on the US. Or asking hee haw harry for information on the US. It just _might_ have a little spin on it, ya know? Sheesh. The media is pointing out that there AREN'T any clear cut demands being made. It confuses people, as illustrated by your knee-jerk post. This is what Occupy Wall St has to say on the matter: http://occupywallst.org/forum/propos...all-st-moveme/ "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." Well, **** - that's kind of odd. ANONYMOUS posts something on an open forum, so it MUST be true. There couldn't possibly be anyone that would, gasp!, lie and post some bull**** to get knee-jerks riled up, could there? Fair and balanced means you get information from many sides and figure out who is closest to the 'truth' of the matter. No one owns truth. R Some people can't fathom the idea of getting info from many sides and formulating their own opinion. |
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On 10/7/2011 10:55 AM, RicodJour wrote:
On Oct 7, 2:50 am, wrote: Can hardly find a mention of it on American news channels. Fat, drunk and stupid is no way to go through life, harry. But in your case and with your prospects I don't see that you have much of a choice. I'm going for a bike ride today, and I'll swing by to check out the Occupy Wall Street crowd. I'll report back later on the situation and what a braying ass you are...damn. I spoiled the surprise! ~ R Finally what a great day for a ride. I was in Manhattan on Wednesday and Thursday. Met a friend on Wednesday and we were on a mission to get a fish taco from a place on Chambers St. we heard about. We walked down from Chinatown not thinking about the protests only to find there was a large group assembled on Foley Square and a "parade" on Centre going down to Park Row blocking the way so we had to backtrack. There was absolutely no evidence of Harrys hysteria. Just a big bunch of people making lots of noise. |
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On 10/8/2011 12:45 PM, JimT wrote:
On 10/8/2011 11:31 AM, harry wrote: On Oct 8, 2:49 pm, wrote: On Oct 8, 7:22 am, wrote: On Oct 8, 3:54 am, "Bob-tx"No Spam no contact wrote: Demand eleven: Immediate across the board debt forgiveness for all. Debt forgiveness of sovereign debt, commercial loans, home mortgages, home equity loans, credit card debt, student loans and personal loans now! All debt must be stricken from the "Books." World Bank Loans to all Nations, Bank to Bank Debt and all Bonds and Margin Call Debt in the stock market including all Derivatives or Credit Default Swaps, all 65 trillion dollars of them must also be stricken from the "Books." And I don't mean debt that is in default, I mean all debt on the entire planet period. This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them. The total devastation of what this would do to the economy and everyone in it is apparent to anyone with a brain. Here are just a few examples: Grandma has a retirement account invested 100% in bonds. That account is now worthless. Joe sold his house last year and took back a mortgage, receiving a payment every month. That mortgage is now worthless and he receives no more payments. The guy who bought the house is the lucky beneficiary of Joe's misfortune and now owns the house free and clear and only paid whatever he put down to buy it. Same thing with the new car Bill bought on credit last year. He owns it and the banking company, who issued the loans is bankrupt. The folks who happen to own stock in that banking company, either directly or through say a pension plan that is invested in stocks, just lost a chunk of their pension.... Obviously the loons who came up with this list have no grasp of even the simple examples above about how the economy works. Yet, they think they know how to run an economy. Go figure. Why are you analyzing bull**** posted by an anonymous source on an open forum and regurgitated here by a knee-jerk? One person posts bull**** and everybody is in a tizzy. Sheesh. "Proposed List Of Demands For Occupy Wall St Movement! (User Submitted) Posted Sept. 25, 2011, 3:46 p.m. EST (12 days ago) by anonymous Admin note: This is not an official list of demands. This is a forum post submitted by a single user and hyped by irresponsible news/ commentary agencies like Fox News and Mises.org. This content was not published by the OccupyWallSt.org collective, nor was it ever proposed or agreed to on a consensus basis with the NYC General Assembly. There is NO official list of demands." I am at a loss as to how you could read that "list of demands" and not know INSTANTLY that it's complete and utter bull****. It's meant to provoke and cause usually level-headed people to say things like "This one is a good example of the total ignorance of this rag tag group of misfits and more than enough to totally discredit them." You owe it to yourself to not succumb to such obvious disinformation, and you owe it to other people to not promulgate that disinformation. R- Hide quoted text - - Show quoted text - It's how revolutions start.. It's not an administrators little plan. Only takes one little incident for the violence to start. Especially in America with all these guns. You are where Russia was in 1916. Leaders will emerge. LOL. You are clueless. I wouldn't expect anything else from a bitter person who gets up every morning and goes to bed every night hating the US and likely doesn't even know why... |
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"RicodJour" wrote Why would labor and teacher's unions get behind it if it's all wackadoodles? Because those two groups are comprised of a lot of wackadoodles. |
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"RicodJour" wrote The thing is absurd form the get go, with a few plausible items thrown in for believability (free education for all). So why did you buy into it? R Make that free education for all, including illegal aliens, with a heavy bias towards ANY minority to the exclusion of legal citizen students who actually test higher. What was the name of the med student who got bumped and had high scores? Banke? Steve |
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On Oct 8, 4:33*pm, "Steve B" wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote *The thing is absurd form the get go, with a few plausible items thrown in for believability (free education for all). *So why did you buy into it? Make that free education for all, including illegal aliens, with a heavy bias towards ANY minority to the exclusion of legal citizen students who actually test higher. What was the name of the med student who got bumped and had high scores? Banke? I don't know. But you do know that the "list of demands" is a bunch of bull**** from some anonymous poster, right? So why do you bring it up? R |
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"RicodJour" wrote in message ... On Oct 8, 4:33 pm, "Steve B" wrote: "RicodJour" wrote The thing is absurd form the get go, with a few plausible items thrown in for believability (free education for all). So why did you buy into it? Make that free education for all, including illegal aliens, with a heavy bias towards ANY minority to the exclusion of legal citizen students who actually test higher. What was the name of the med student who got bumped and had high scores? Banke? I don't know. But you do know that the "list of demands" is a bunch of bull**** from some anonymous poster, right? So why do you bring it up? R Sorry, you were the one who posted it. Do try to keep up. And I knew their demands were bull**** days ago. What took you so long? Steve |
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On Oct 8, 3:39*pm, "Ed Pawlowski" wrote:
"RicodJour" wrote Why would labor and teacher's unions get behind it if it's all wackadoodles? Because those two groups are comprised of a lot of wackadoodles. * Okay - fair enough, Ed. Please point out a group that is not comprised of a lot of wackadoodles. For the life of me I can't think of a single one that's not. From my standpoint, everyone is a wackadoodle about something. To totally dismiss a valid point because someone has some views that differ from your own is naive and self-defeating. It leads to atrocities...like our current excuse for a Congress. As if they even know what the word congress means and where it came from! R OT PS I checked out your fotografie d'Italia - nice going! But do me a favor and stop posting pictures that make me hungry. That's hitting below the belt...or just above it - in either case it's fightin' dirty. I saw you did go to Paestum. You picked a great time of year to visit - all the crowds are gone and the weather is still excellent. When I was living in Italy thirty years ago, I jumped the fence with a couple of friends and we slept in the Temple of Poseidon/Hera II. It was a warm night, clouds floating in front of a full Moon, and dogs howling at it. We took walks through the ruins. Truly a magical experience. Now...? We'd probably get shot doing it. |
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